EGTL didn't roll over and die, Prime is just pathetic this year
Ex-STX Coach's Shiycoms Supporting Prime
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
EGTL didn't roll over and die, Prime is just pathetic this year | ||
Philipp
Germany20 Posts
I really hope that Prime is going to get some additional players as well, because the roster is kind of slim atm. ^^ Going to be hyped for every upcoming Prime match! | ||
Darkdwarf
Sweden960 Posts
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TheSayo182
Italy243 Posts
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
On August 04 2015 18:59 LongShot27 wrote: EGTL didn't roll over and die, Prime is just pathetic this year EGTL did roll over and die with the most fearsome teamleague player at the time that is Taeja in addition to their star strudded lineup of HerO (recently won 2DH, 1IEM), Stephano (WCS and Korean slaying), JD and more. Even coach Park couldn't salvage the humiliation. Prime is pathetic because they lost their best players (Maru to Jinair, rest to Choya) repeatedly without finding any financial back up in meantime. Chinese mercenaries can't play and Creator finally gave up trying to be a one man team. In the end you have a coach that doesn't give a crap and four players that absolutely have to play, which also gives them tremendous amounts of predictability and loss of momentum/motivation on a loss. There is a difference in my opinion. | ||
ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
Poor Prime. | ||
Lorning
Belgica34430 Posts
On August 04 2015 22:14 ilikeredheads wrote: When I saw Gerrard as a coach on sbenu in LCS K, I was like WTF.... Poor Prime. Sbenu Sonicboom = Prime's LoL team | ||
Obeast96
United States106 Posts
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Ctesias
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Orlok
Korea (South)227 Posts
I for one am glad they got rid of Gerrard. He was nothing like the coach Prime needed. He would play Hearthstone and stream when he should have been preparing for proleague, he didn't make the players any better, he didn't do anything that left concrete results. Sure, he must have done a bunch of negotiating with sponsors behind the curtains, but he sucked at leaving anything that mattered. I think I'm rambling too much salty hate. To summon it all up, the man was a terrible coach. Im quite sure not many of us will be sorry to see him leave. Maybe he makes Sbenu Sonic Boom a better team, I don't know. | ||
iamkaokao
108 Posts
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grogburg
United States329 Posts
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eSportsHeaven
United States14 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
last time I brought up Prime needing a new coach, people laughed. Well, the joke's on you all who didn't believe | ||
masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
I spent almost 4 months with the prime guys, and lived in their house. I avoided (mostly) talking bad about the team because I still had/have friends in the team (bboongbboong I still hear from from time to time)but since Gerrard is no longer part of prime, I can state how i really feel. plus last time I wrote something critical of prime, I had Gerrard's sister harassing me on skype asking me to take it down, which i refused. The only problem with prime was Gerrard. He was the single reason the team continued to fail. Gerrard is mostly just greedy. When I stayed at the house, it was during primes best months. That was because they had a manager (moon something, I wish i remembered his entire name) and he mentored the players and was in general a friend and a coach (even though he was never great at starcraft). but he was always there and the players saw him often. Gerrard lived in the prime house, but honestly I rarely saw him outside of meal times. That manager I think was the reason prime did so well in those months. Gerrard eventually got rid of him, and guess what? prime hasn't had as good days as those since. Gerrard wasn't a coach, prime didn't have a proper coach. He cared more for the business of making money off the players than he did for the players. He would force players to stream so that they could make money, and try to pawn off their gear and such on stream so they could make more money. I felt bad that the players were being treated like old BW b-teamers than actual star players, which all of them could have been. I'm not saying Gerrard was a bad guy, he just is a awful manager and not even a coach. Prime was successful despite Gerrard. now that Gerrard is gone, I honestly think that prime will start doing way better. | ||
Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
On August 07 2015 01:16 masterbreti wrote: I feel like doing some real talk so here is go. I spent almost 4 months with the prime guys, and lived in their house. I avoided (mostly) talking bad about the team because I still had/have friends in the team (bboongbboong I still hear from from time to time)but since Gerrard is no longer part of prime, I can state how i really feel. plus last time I wrote something critical of prime, I had Gerrard's sister harassing me on skype asking me to take it down, which i refused. The only problem with prime was Gerrard. He was the single reason the team continued to fail. Gerrard is mostly just greedy. When I stayed at the house, it was during primes best months. That was because they had a manager (moon something, I wish i remembered his entire name) and he mentored the players and was in general a friend and a coach (even though he was never great at starcraft). but he was always there and the players saw him often. Gerrard lived in the prime house, but honestly I rarely saw him outside of meal times. That manager I think was the reason prime did so well in those months. Gerrard eventually got rid of him, and guess what? prime hasn't had as good days as those since. Gerrard wasn't a coach, prime didn't have a proper coach. He cared more for the business of making money off the players than he did for the players. He would force players to stream so that they could make money, and try to pawn off their gear and such on stream so they could make more money. I felt bad that the players were being treated like old BW b-teamers than actual star players, which all of them could have been. I'm not saying Gerrard was a bad guy, he just is a awful manager and not even a coach. Prime was successful despite Gerrard. now that Gerrard is gone, I honestly think that prime will start doing way better. Now I understand Myungsik and Creator, but also Yodas fall. | ||
masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
On August 07 2015 01:32 Clonester wrote: Now I understand Myungsik and Creator, but also Yodas fall. basically everyone who was ever in prime that had good moments was because they worked their butts off. Creator was one of the absolute hardest working players I have ever seen, same goes for Maru. they were successful because they worked hard as hell. I remember timers were they would practice for 14-16 hours straight with no breaks. I don't think I ever saw maru or creator do anything other than eat or play starcraft. they succeeded despite Gerrard. And that's why after so many of their contracts finished, they left prime, because they knew how much of a black hole of players it was. Gerrard never set (to my knowledge) a proper training schedule. so it was up to each player to find matches and to practice however long they saw fit. again this could have changed in the past while, but i doubt it if Gerrard was still involved. it was a very much dog eat dog environment in the house. | ||
showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On August 07 2015 01:44 masterbreti wrote: basically everyone who was ever in prime that had good moments was because they worked their butts off. Creator was one of the absolute hardest working players I have ever seen, same goes for Maru. they were successful because they worked hard as hell. I remember timers were they would practice for 14-16 hours straight with no breaks. I don't think I ever saw maru or creator do anything other than eat or play starcraft. they succeeded despite Gerrard. And that's why after so many of their contracts finished, they left prime, because they knew how much of a black hole of players it was. Gerrard never set (to my knowledge) a proper training schedule. so it was up to each player to find matches and to practice however long they saw fit. again this could have changed in the past while, but i doubt it if Gerrard was still involved. it was a very much dog eat dog environment in the house. So you're telling me there's hope that (1) Prime won't disband after PL and (2) that Prime will actually start doing better? | ||
Lorning
Belgica34430 Posts
On August 07 2015 01:16 masterbreti wrote: I feel like doing some real talk so here is go. I spent almost 4 months with the prime guys, and lived in their house. I avoided (mostly) talking bad about the team because I still had/have friends in the team (bboongbboong I still hear from from time to time)but since Gerrard is no longer part of prime, I can state how i really feel. plus last time I wrote something critical of prime, I had Gerrard's sister harassing me on skype asking me to take it down, which i refused. The only problem with prime was Gerrard. He was the single reason the team continued to fail. Gerrard is mostly just greedy. When I stayed at the house, it was during primes best months. That was because they had a manager (moon something, I wish i remembered his entire name) and he mentored the players and was in general a friend and a coach (even though he was never great at starcraft). but he was always there and the players saw him often. Gerrard lived in the prime house, but honestly I rarely saw him outside of meal times. That manager I think was the reason prime did so well in those months. Gerrard eventually got rid of him, and guess what? prime hasn't had as good days as those since. Gerrard wasn't a coach, prime didn't have a proper coach. He cared more for the business of making money off the players than he did for the players. He would force players to stream so that they could make money, and try to pawn off their gear and such on stream so they could make more money. I felt bad that the players were being treated like old BW b-teamers than actual star players, which all of them could have been. I'm not saying Gerrard was a bad guy, he just is a awful manager and not even a coach. Prime was successful despite Gerrard. now that Gerrard is gone, I honestly think that prime will start doing way better. Thanks for saying this. (Although Gerrard is still the owner, but now managing the Prime LoL team, Sbenu Sonicboom) I hope the coming of the new coach is a way to greener pastures | ||
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