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I was watching he streaming LotV for the first time yesterday.
He was losing and saying how the game was bad and worse than HotS. He even made the chat sub mode only during some losing streak. Then he started to win, and the PvZ matchup suddenly became "very fun to play". The point is: this guy can't handle losses. He can't even think, or use his brain, after a loss.
It's sad and funny at the same time.
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He is one of the hardest people to manage, I'm sure Property had a party after this announcement.
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NaNiwa leaves puberty.... Hell it's about time :D
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Am i late for the Naniwa hate-wagon?
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Most people saying this is Naniwas fault are immature kids who like to point fingers. Truth is, if this was Naniwas fault prOperty would have given more details 100%. Naniwa can't due to a NDA and if he breaches it he have to go to a court far from his home and pay few thousand dollars as fee for the breach.
It is absolutely ridiculous to assume fault and blame him for this due to things he have done years ago. That's like saying if I start a conflict with someone, all my future conflicts have to been started by me.
Grow up people, you're no better than the old naniwa for bs'ing about him now.
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Protoss player, swedish place of residence. This must be a troll haha.
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On September 24 2015 23:13 Tiaraju9 wrote: I was watching he streaming LotV for the first time yesterday.
He was losing and saying how the game was bad and worse than HotS. He even made the chat sub mode only during some losing streak. Then he started to win, and the PvZ matchup suddenly became "very fun to play". The point is: this guy can't handle losses. He can't even think, or use his brain, after a loss.
It's sad and funny at the same time.
You didn't pay much attention to his stream then. He says that LotV is fun but there are still balance problems. The game mechanics are there but the balance is not - it has nothing to do with what you are saying.
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I don't understand all the hate for him, I think he's great, and it's entertaining to have someone like him around. Plus say what you want about his personality he's one of the best foreigners of all time, and for that reason alone you should want him back in LotV.
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On September 25 2015 14:18 DooMDash wrote: I don't understand all the hate for him, I think he's great, and it's entertaining to have someone like him around. Plus say what you want about his personality he's one of the best foreigners of all time, and for that reason alone you should want him back in LotV. Most people hate him for what he did when he "retired" for the first time. His out of the game decision making is poor.
Honestly, I don't miss him at all. I miss MC.
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On September 25 2015 14:18 DooMDash wrote: I don't understand all the hate for him, I think he's great, and it's entertaining to have someone like him around. Plus say what you want about his personality he's one of the best foreigners of all time, and for that reason alone you should want him back in LotV.
One person's "entertaining" is another's "immature tool". Also not a big fan of the "well they're really good at what they do, lets look past everything else about them!" mindset.
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On September 23 2015 21:11 TRaFFiC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2015 19:46 x0x0 wrote:On September 23 2015 09:38 TRaFFiC wrote:On September 23 2015 06:17 x0x0 wrote: Well it was expected somehow .It's well known that Naniwa character is meh...and he has a weak mentality so any real team that signs him will not keep him for long cause of these 2 missing attributes. Still he is so marketable...damn it!! I think he should stick to just solo streaming and trash talk all other foreigners and leave the pro gaming to professionals that actually do really try hard to improve them selves and be better. He is not the beast that he used to be, because of his lack of professional mindset and clear focus on what to do to get better. Unfortunately he is miles behind a top pro gamer at the moment. I honestly think that he doesn't have what it takes to comeback to that mind blowing form he was a while ago. Too bad for his skills and game know how...I put him next to IdrA as an example on how not to do when you wanna stay on top of your game!!!!! PS. I truly was a Nani fan!!! How do you unfan yourself from someone? Makes no sense. Saying Nani doesn't work as hard as other foreign pros is just wrong. Whenever I watch his stream (which is pretty often) he always has more wins/games than any other pro. He has like 600 wins on his main account a couple months into the season. If you look at the ladder now, he has more wins than anybody in the top 10. I wouldn't read too much into this. Property probably just downsizing their roster. Nani is one of those guys with a lot of talent. I expect him to do very well in Legacy. Yes you can unfan yourself so easy....when the one you "follow" and admire has become extremely arogant at a mediocre level of gameplay.Don't confuse ladder grinding with actual results in a tournamnet.I'm not saying that he is bad or something,just that he doesn't prove that he is good when it matters.Combine this with his "stinky" attitude and you have a recipe for "unfaning". There are so many examples of pro gamers that are close to Naniwa's level (SC2 skillz and stuff) , but who managed to keep their fans with their profi attitude. (Snute,Huk,MC...etc.....i won't put Flash here... ) Team Property has made the right decision if the rumors are true.Since he joined them I didn't see him compete on any tournament.Every emplyer will judge you by your attitude and your results.Naniwa has 0 on both of them , today!! When did Nani "become" arrogant? It seems to me he's always had the same personality. This seems to be a case of you following him when his results were good. I wouldn't call that being a fan. Real fans stick it out when the going gets rough. Being top 10 on the most competitive ladder outside Korea isn't grinding. It's talent. Grinding is playing a lot of games. Nani gets higher stream numbers than any of the players you listed which is a big indicator he hasn't lost his fans as you say. Your claims that Nani doesn't " prepare, plan,learn,improve,listen, and watch" are totally ludicrous and border on slander. I can guarantee you he does all of those things since he often streams it. What are your qualifications anyway? Nani has been a professional player for long enough to know what he needs to improve better than some random. Would you tell Lebron James how to train? Hell no. I will say I wish he would compete more. It's almost seems like he's scared of the booth. But for all we know, as said in this thread, maybe his team WASN'T WILLING to send him.
Why am I not surprised that you are a naniwa fanboy...lol, so fitting
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He'll probably soon retire and get a full time casting job like every former player and his dog
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On September 26 2015 07:57 Radovan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2015 21:11 TRaFFiC wrote:On September 23 2015 19:46 x0x0 wrote:On September 23 2015 09:38 TRaFFiC wrote:On September 23 2015 06:17 x0x0 wrote: Well it was expected somehow .It's well known that Naniwa character is meh...and he has a weak mentality so any real team that signs him will not keep him for long cause of these 2 missing attributes. Still he is so marketable...damn it!! I think he should stick to just solo streaming and trash talk all other foreigners and leave the pro gaming to professionals that actually do really try hard to improve them selves and be better. He is not the beast that he used to be, because of his lack of professional mindset and clear focus on what to do to get better. Unfortunately he is miles behind a top pro gamer at the moment. I honestly think that he doesn't have what it takes to comeback to that mind blowing form he was a while ago. Too bad for his skills and game know how...I put him next to IdrA as an example on how not to do when you wanna stay on top of your game!!!!! PS. I truly was a Nani fan!!! How do you unfan yourself from someone? Makes no sense. Saying Nani doesn't work as hard as other foreign pros is just wrong. Whenever I watch his stream (which is pretty often) he always has more wins/games than any other pro. He has like 600 wins on his main account a couple months into the season. If you look at the ladder now, he has more wins than anybody in the top 10. I wouldn't read too much into this. Property probably just downsizing their roster. Nani is one of those guys with a lot of talent. I expect him to do very well in Legacy. Yes you can unfan yourself so easy....when the one you "follow" and admire has become extremely arogant at a mediocre level of gameplay.Don't confuse ladder grinding with actual results in a tournamnet.I'm not saying that he is bad or something,just that he doesn't prove that he is good when it matters.Combine this with his "stinky" attitude and you have a recipe for "unfaning". There are so many examples of pro gamers that are close to Naniwa's level (SC2 skillz and stuff) , but who managed to keep their fans with their profi attitude. (Snute,Huk,MC...etc.....i won't put Flash here... ) Team Property has made the right decision if the rumors are true.Since he joined them I didn't see him compete on any tournament.Every emplyer will judge you by your attitude and your results.Naniwa has 0 on both of them , today!! When did Nani "become" arrogant? It seems to me he's always had the same personality. This seems to be a case of you following him when his results were good. I wouldn't call that being a fan. Real fans stick it out when the going gets rough. Being top 10 on the most competitive ladder outside Korea isn't grinding. It's talent. Grinding is playing a lot of games. Nani gets higher stream numbers than any of the players you listed which is a big indicator he hasn't lost his fans as you say. Your claims that Nani doesn't " prepare, plan,learn,improve,listen, and watch" are totally ludicrous and border on slander. I can guarantee you he does all of those things since he often streams it. What are your qualifications anyway? Nani has been a professional player for long enough to know what he needs to improve better than some random. Would you tell Lebron James how to train? Hell no. I will say I wish he would compete more. It's almost seems like he's scared of the booth. But for all we know, as said in this thread, maybe his team WASN'T WILLING to send him. Why am I not surprised that you are a naniwa fanboy...lol, so fitting I would do the same for any player who has been in the scene for so long because I have a huge amount of respect for their skill and what they do. It pains me to see no names slandering them on forums.
If the worst insult you got for me is "fan boi," I can live with that. After all, this is a website for e-sports fans.
I know this concept may seem foreign to you seeing as most of your posts are posting smiley faces in players' retirement topics.
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