KT needed another terran for Training, Jjakji can profit with the training to win in individual leagues (and maybe maybe fight for a spot in the SPL lineup). Next to Zest and Stats, Super had never the chance to shine... now he is on a Team with no big protoss, so he could actually play alot of SPL and also gain training with the terrans and zergs to be strong in Leagues.
On December 01 2015 20:45 ZeRoX_TV wrote: KT should buy Innovation
SKT wouldn't let them.
Also KT really needs a Zerg :/
They're ok! KT got by for years with a sub-par zerg line
Action and co. were amazing in Proleague when it mattered though. Life isn't really a teamleague guy and PenguiN, I'm not even sure he's actually still on the team.
On December 01 2015 20:39 Phredxor wrote: KT hopefully going to pick up a huge name with all the money freed up from Flash retiring.
they don't need to, I like the new KT with stats become the big brother of the team.
I mean Stats was already the oldest wasn't he? But they could use a bit more depth. They already never had Believe in their Proleague roster, SpeeD was in the Round 4 roster but has 0 games, and PenguiN hasn't been seen since the Code A qualifiers IIRC.
On December 01 2015 20:39 Phredxor wrote: KT hopefully going to pick up a huge name with all the money freed up from Flash retiring.
they don't need to, I like the new KT with stats become the big brother of the team.
I mean Stats was already the oldest wasn't he? But they could use a bit more depth. They already never had Believe in their Proleague roster, SpeeD was in the Round 4 roster but has 0 games, and PenguiN hasn't been seen since the Code A qualifiers IIRC.
as in hes been a pro longer than everyone else in the roster
On December 01 2015 20:45 ZeRoX_TV wrote: KT should buy Innovation
SKT wouldn't let them.
Also KT really needs a Zerg :/
They're ok! KT got by for years with a sub-par zerg line
Action and co. were amazing in Proleague when it mattered though. Life isn't really a teamleague guy and PenguiN, I'm not even sure he's actually still on the team.
Yeah, the trio of Action, Hoejja, and Crazy-Hydra were clutch when it mattered back in BW for SPL. Shame they're all gone too along with Flash
But nice to see jjakji go to KT, though should be interesting which of the 2 Terrans will become their figurehead type Terran player, I figure TY most likely.
On December 01 2015 20:31 Thax wrote: Good move for everyone I think. KT needed another solid Terran, and Super was only their third Protoss while he's now probably the first on SBENU.
Also, is MMA staying on for another year? Thought he said last year he was retiring.
On December 01 2015 20:31 Thax wrote: Good move for everyone I think. KT needed another solid Terran, and Super was only their third Protoss while he's now probably the first on SBENU.
Also, is MMA staying on for another year? Thought he said last year he was retiring.
MMA should retire.
Last time he talked about it he said this was his last year. But IIRC he's gonna be at HSC so who knows.
On December 01 2015 20:31 Thax wrote: Good move for everyone I think. KT needed another solid Terran, and Super was only their third Protoss while he's now probably the first on SBENU.
Also, is MMA staying on for another year? Thought he said last year he was retiring.
MMA should retire.
Last time he talked about it he said this was his last year. But IIRC he's gonna be at HSC so who knows.
Should go to HSC then stop, he's quite old and has his service to do sadly. His performance in the GSL s1 was exceptionnal this year.
IIRC when the deal was announced Acer said that it was only for one season of Proleague because MMA wanted to play Proleague once before he goes to the military.
IIRC when the deal was announced Acer said that it was only for one season of Proleague because MMA wanted to play Proleague once before he goes to the military.
Also sad to see Hack leave SBENU.
Really curious about Hack. He's a decent B-teamer.
On December 01 2015 22:03 wjat wrote: Really bad trade for KT imo. Even if their protoss line up was stacked I think Super > JJakji
jjakji at his peak is probably worth more than Super. Plus KT and SBENU are practice partners so they're probably more willing to make a slightly worse trade.
On December 01 2015 20:31 Thax wrote: Good move for everyone I think. KT needed another solid Terran, and Super was only their third Protoss while he's now probably the first on SBENU.
Also, is MMA staying on for another year? Thought he said last year he was retiring.
MMA should retire.
Last time he talked about it he said this was his last year. But IIRC he's gonna be at HSC so who knows.
Should go to HSC then stop, he's quite old and has his service to do sadly. His performance in the GSL s1 was exceptionnal this year.
I think he'll do another year. You should ask Aeromi for confirmation but I'm pretty sure him and Kaoru talked about that on Twitter.
On December 01 2015 20:31 Thax wrote: Good move for everyone I think. KT needed another solid Terran, and Super was only their third Protoss while he's now probably the first on SBENU.
Also, is MMA staying on for another year? Thought he said last year he was retiring.
MMA should retire.
Last time he talked about it he said this was his last year. But IIRC he's gonna be at HSC so who knows.
Should go to HSC then stop, he's quite old and has his service to do sadly. His performance in the GSL s1 was exceptionnal this year.
I think he'll do another year. You should ask Aeromi for confirmation but I'm pretty sure him and Kaoru talked about that on Twitter.
they desperately need a zerg....... life is completly sniped by every team at this point.. crazy news flash retiring... should be whole post alone , i like to see jjakji in a champion team finally , i really hope it goes well for him
On December 01 2015 20:31 Thax wrote: Good move for everyone I think. KT needed another solid Terran, and Super was only their third Protoss while he's now probably the first on SBENU.
Also, is MMA staying on for another year? Thought he said last year he was retiring.
MMA should retire.
Last time he talked about it he said this was his last year. But IIRC he's gonna be at HSC so who knows.
Should go to HSC then stop, he's quite old and has his service to do sadly. His performance in the GSL s1 was exceptionnal this year.
I think he'll do another year. You should ask Aeromi for confirmation but I'm pretty sure him and Kaoru talked about that on Twitter.
Kaoru confirmed that he was not going to retire in December, he (unfortunately) never confirmed that he's going to play 2016.
On December 01 2015 20:45 ZeRoX_TV wrote: KT should buy Innovation
SKT wouldn't let them.
Also KT really needs a Zerg :/
They're ok! KT got by for years with a sub-par zerg line
Action and co. were amazing in Proleague when it mattered though. Life isn't really a teamleague guy and PenguiN, I'm not even sure he's actually still on the team.
PenguiN is not on the team since months now. So yeah we need another Zerg ASAP!
On December 01 2015 20:31 Thax wrote: Good move for everyone I think. KT needed another solid Terran, and Super was only their third Protoss while he's now probably the first on SBENU.
Also, is MMA staying on for another year? Thought he said last year he was retiring.
MMA should retire.
Last time he talked about it he said this was his last year. But IIRC he's gonna be at HSC so who knows.
Should go to HSC then stop, he's quite old and has his service to do sadly. His performance in the GSL s1 was exceptionnal this year.
I think he'll do another year. You should ask Aeromi for confirmation but I'm pretty sure him and Kaoru talked about that on Twitter.
Kaoru confirmed that he was not going to retire in December, he (unfortunately) never confirmed that he's going to play 2016.
So he doesn't retire but doesn't continue ? Is he the Schrodinger Terran ?
On December 01 2015 20:45 ZeRoX_TV wrote: KT should buy Innovation
SKT wouldn't let them.
Also KT really needs a Zerg :/
They're ok! KT got by for years with a sub-par zerg line
Action and co. were amazing in Proleague when it mattered though. Life isn't really a teamleague guy and PenguiN, I'm not even sure he's actually still on the team.
PenguiN is not on the team since months now. So yeah we need another Zerg ASAP!
#BuyDeParture
(that's modest, but I don't think there's a better Zerg on one of the other teams who might be willing to leave)
On December 01 2015 20:45 ZeRoX_TV wrote: KT should buy Innovation
SKT wouldn't let them.
Also KT really needs a Zerg :/
They're ok! KT got by for years with a sub-par zerg line
Action and co. were amazing in Proleague when it mattered though. Life isn't really a teamleague guy and PenguiN, I'm not even sure he's actually still on the team.
PenguiN is not on the team since months now. So yeah we need another Zerg ASAP!
#BuyDeParture
(that's modest, but I don't think there's a better Zerg on one of the other teams who might be willing to leave)
Yes I like DeParture way more than Soulkey! Soulkey is/was a very good player but after his decision of going full solo endeavors and his fuck-ups with Axiom, I don't see him as a good fit for a PL team. At least not KT, he became too mercenary for that.
I actually think SBENU came out ahead here. They had no Protoss lineup to speak of and I've always actually thought Super was underrated (some inconsistency but generally very solid play that may be even better post KT)
Don't get me wrong I love Jjakji but with KT already having a starting four of Life, Zest, Stats, and TY I think it's unlikely that Jjakji will have a big lineup impact. More than likely Jjakji will be relegated to the same spot TY filled last season as the somewhat seldom used 5th player and Super will be a pretty consistent starter for SBENU (unless more roster changes happen)
On December 02 2015 01:24 Darkhorse wrote: I actually think SBENU came out ahead here. They had no Protoss lineup to speak of and I've always actually thought Super was underrated (some inconsistency but generally very solid play that may be even better post KT)
Don't get me wrong I love Jjakji but with KT already having a starting four of Life, Zest, Stats, and TY I think it's unlikely that Jjakji will have a big lineup impact. More than likely Jjakji will be relegated to the same spot TY filled last season as the somewhat seldom used 5th player and Super will be a pretty consistent starter for SBENU (unless more roster changes happen)
If google translate is to be trusted, they intend to make further signings according to Legend's tweet
Good trade for both teams, they both needed someone of that race and both players are about even in ability I think (jjakji maybe a little better, but on SBENU Super will get more airtime and hopefully improve more)
...so, are Hack, Ssemi, StuN and SSoja officially left teamless? MMA is on Acer for non KeSPA events iirc and these players are not exactly top-tier ones but it's quite a big reshaping of the roster all of a sudden...
On December 02 2015 01:24 Darkhorse wrote: I actually think SBENU came out ahead here. They had no Protoss lineup to speak of and I've always actually thought Super was underrated (some inconsistency but generally very solid play that may be even better post KT)
Don't get me wrong I love Jjakji but with KT already having a starting four of Life, Zest, Stats, and TY I think it's unlikely that Jjakji will have a big lineup impact. More than likely Jjakji will be relegated to the same spot TY filled last season as the somewhat seldom used 5th player and Super will be a pretty consistent starter for SBENU (unless more roster changes happen)
You're right, jjakji probably won't have big lineup impact. But honestly this trade is probably a bigger deal for the players than for the teams. Whether it's Super or jjakji, neither of them would play every week on KT. Both of them could get good play time on SBENU.
Unless jjakji surprises everyone and truly returns to form in LotV (or the format is changed to bo7 I guess), he'll probably make few appearances. (also KT probably will sign another player at some point since Flash left)
On December 02 2015 03:19 OtherWorld wrote: Well if that was a Civilization trade I'd say SBENU had a big army right on KT's borders to secure such a deal
Well the teams were practice partners last season, that might make KT more willing to give in to a deal like this (unless jjakji is way better at LotV than we think).
Oh SBENU, used to be such a team of old-time greats, now the old-time part survives, but ... still a pretty potent lineup, but the star power is not what it used to be. Hopefully the results will make up for it.
On December 02 2015 14:27 PockyStix wrote: I'm more curious as to what this means for the now teamless MMA. He did so well in 2014, it'd be a shame if he were gone too. :/
He's still on Acer. But he was intending to do his military service soon and only stay with SBENU for 1 season of Proleague.