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On February 05 2016 05:43 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country. Essentially it is the same gain as any non-Korean country: non-Korean players get more tournaments to play, more exposure and of course more money, it is just that China gets a bit more gains due to previous limits, but the difference in reaction is pretty glaring. We don't really see concern like "lowering the skill level of tournaments" or "no Korean no watch", in fact the viewership of DH Leipzig here is as high as last year's WCS global events.
If I was a Chinese player I'd be damn happy with the new system, since I wouldn't get screwed by the "Asia qualifiers" anymore (which were always won by Koreans).
So I don't get what your first comment comes from
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On February 05 2016 01:24 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Imo the koreans should only start with 6 workers. Its just not right for our boys to lose to non WCS players after winning/placing high in a prestige tournament like this. + Show Spoiler +10th letter of the greek alphabet
On February 05 2016 01:21 showstealer1829 wrote:Show nested quote +All-star match on March 27th will feature invited Korean players versus the top finishers from WCS China. Oh how gracious of you. How kind I hope KeSPA fucking boycotts this. I really do
On February 05 2016 01:16 Cricketer12 wrote: Wow koreans in the all star match. This is fucking blasphemous. Not enough region lock. Why wont Blizzard let non koreans win for a change. So unfair. We need more region lock boys.
When I read these replies on the bus on the way home from work I burst into laughter. Well played all three of you
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On February 05 2016 05:54 Silvana wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 05:43 digmouse wrote:On February 05 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country. Essentially it is the same gain as any non-Korean country: non-Korean players get more tournaments to play, more exposure and of course more money, it is just that China gets a bit more gains due to previous limits, but the difference in reaction is pretty glaring. We don't really see concern like "lowering the skill level of tournaments" or "no Korean no watch", in fact the viewership of DH Leipzig here is as high as last year's WCS global events. If I was a Chinese player I'd be damn happy with the new system, since I wouldn't get screwed by the "Asia qualifiers" anymore (which were always won by Koreans). So I don't get what your first comment comes from The reactions I've seen since the announcement of the new WCS system have most been "it is good that Koreans will no longer be plowing all the money away", instead of "the Korean scene is fucked" or "it is a downgrade from the old system where Koreans can play vs foreigners", not in the sense of "we can actually qualify for something".
In fact if you look at the qualifiers of both DH Leipzig and WCS Winter, realistically the only spot(s) available to Chinese players is still the one Chinese qualifier, having to play on US servers to qualify is insanely hard for Chinese players due to lag. Actually this WCS Shanghai event is probably the only event Chinese players can play/qualify en masse.
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I think, this will be a good tournament and the awesome thing is that we will be able to laugh about the winner being beaten by some second tier Korean after the tournament :-)
So for me, 100 points up compared to some standard DH or IEM. As with IEM, they are even liing to the public by saying "The best players will be playing at the World Championship in Katowice". The Chinese did it great with this showmatch after the tournament. Of course if they invite someone reasonable.
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On February 05 2016 06:07 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 05:54 Silvana wrote:On February 05 2016 05:43 digmouse wrote:On February 05 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country. Essentially it is the same gain as any non-Korean country: non-Korean players get more tournaments to play, more exposure and of course more money, it is just that China gets a bit more gains due to previous limits, but the difference in reaction is pretty glaring. We don't really see concern like "lowering the skill level of tournaments" or "no Korean no watch", in fact the viewership of DH Leipzig here is as high as last year's WCS global events. If I was a Chinese player I'd be damn happy with the new system, since I wouldn't get screwed by the "Asia qualifiers" anymore (which were always won by Koreans). So I don't get what your first comment comes from The reactions I've seen since the announcement of the new WCS system have most been "it is good that Koreans will no longer be plowing all the money away", instead of "the Korean scene is fucked" or "it is a downgrade from the old system where Koreans can play vs foreigners", not in the sense of "we can actually qualify for something". . all this shows is that chinese people are more selfish than europeans or americans.
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On February 05 2016 06:18 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 06:07 digmouse wrote:On February 05 2016 05:54 Silvana wrote:On February 05 2016 05:43 digmouse wrote:On February 05 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country. Essentially it is the same gain as any non-Korean country: non-Korean players get more tournaments to play, more exposure and of course more money, it is just that China gets a bit more gains due to previous limits, but the difference in reaction is pretty glaring. We don't really see concern like "lowering the skill level of tournaments" or "no Korean no watch", in fact the viewership of DH Leipzig here is as high as last year's WCS global events. If I was a Chinese player I'd be damn happy with the new system, since I wouldn't get screwed by the "Asia qualifiers" anymore (which were always won by Koreans). So I don't get what your first comment comes from The reactions I've seen since the announcement of the new WCS system have most been "it is good that Koreans will no longer be plowing all the money away", instead of "the Korean scene is fucked" or "it is a downgrade from the old system where Koreans can play vs foreigners", not in the sense of "we can actually qualify for something". . all this shows is that chinese people are more selfish than europeans or americans.
I think selfish is probably the wrong word? It is not the "Chinese people" that will be earning any moneys, am I right? Selfish has to do with getting benefits for your self.
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On February 05 2016 06:42 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 06:18 Charoisaur wrote:On February 05 2016 06:07 digmouse wrote:On February 05 2016 05:54 Silvana wrote:On February 05 2016 05:43 digmouse wrote:On February 05 2016 05:34 Elentos wrote:On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess Why wouldn't the Chinese scene be excited? They have every reason to. The players now actually have a chance to qualify for Premier tournaments because they no longer have to share qualifying spots with Korea. Their favorite Chinese players have a better chance than ever to prove themselves outside of their country. Essentially it is the same gain as any non-Korean country: non-Korean players get more tournaments to play, more exposure and of course more money, it is just that China gets a bit more gains due to previous limits, but the difference in reaction is pretty glaring. We don't really see concern like "lowering the skill level of tournaments" or "no Korean no watch", in fact the viewership of DH Leipzig here is as high as last year's WCS global events. If I was a Chinese player I'd be damn happy with the new system, since I wouldn't get screwed by the "Asia qualifiers" anymore (which were always won by Koreans). So I don't get what your first comment comes from The reactions I've seen since the announcement of the new WCS system have most been "it is good that Koreans will no longer be plowing all the money away", instead of "the Korean scene is fucked" or "it is a downgrade from the old system where Koreans can play vs foreigners", not in the sense of "we can actually qualify for something". . all this shows is that chinese people are more selfish than europeans or americans. I think selfish is probably the wrong word? It is not the "Chinese people" that will be earning any moneys, am I right? Selfish has to do with getting benefits for your self. but they want their players to do well and don't care about the korean scene so it's selfish^^
+ Show Spoiler +and it was a joke I don't think chinese people are really selfish
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On February 05 2016 05:24 digmouse wrote:It is funny that the Chinese scene is pretty excited for the tournament and the new WCS system as a whole. We are shortsighted I guess
I think you benefit quite a lot from it and it's fair since the chinese scene is actually making progress
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Ugh, disgusted with this WCS.
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Noooooo i'll be in Shanghai the week before and leaving the 19th :'(
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So this is yet another weekend-type tourney ala DH and IEM.
Is there going to be a proper vanilla WCS tourney ala GSL? If yes, how many and when? Or is the WCS Circuit still making tourneys up as they move along?
As much as it's nice to have surprise announcements springing up, surely it's nicer for the players and viewers to have some clarity on the entire 2016 schedule. It's quite disconcerting that things are still being worked out behind the scenes. Blizzard has the clout and finances to make things happen by now (where as it's understandable for KeSPA to struggle with Proleague/GSL/SSL due to sponsorship issues and Blizzard's sudden WCS changes).
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On February 05 2016 15:00 RKC wrote: So this is yet another weekend-type tourney ala DH and IEM.
Is there going to be a proper vanilla WCS tourney ala GSL? If yes, how many and when? Or is the WCS Circuit still making tourneys up as they move along?
As much as it's nice to have surprise announcements springing up, surely it's nicer for the players and viewers to have some clarity on the entire 2016 schedule. It's quite disconcerting that things are still being worked out behind the scenes. Blizzard has the clout and finances to make things happen by now (where as it's understandable for KeSPA to struggle with Proleague/GSL/SSL due to sponsorship issues and Blizzard's sudden WCS changes).
It is a week long event, not something rushed in a weekend.
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Really sad to see so much negativity.
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On February 05 2016 15:42 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2016 15:00 RKC wrote: So this is yet another weekend-type tourney ala DH and IEM.
Is there going to be a proper vanilla WCS tourney ala GSL? If yes, how many and when? Or is the WCS Circuit still making tourneys up as they move along?
As much as it's nice to have surprise announcements springing up, surely it's nicer for the players and viewers to have some clarity on the entire 2016 schedule. It's quite disconcerting that things are still being worked out behind the scenes. Blizzard has the clout and finances to make things happen by now (where as it's understandable for KeSPA to struggle with Proleague/GSL/SSL due to sponsorship issues and Blizzard's sudden WCS changes). It is a week long event, not something rushed in a weekend. Which unfortunately means a lot of players that are in school cant play.
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Hello! Somebody knows at what time will start GPL group A? This info is not indicated on the bracket. EDIT : it's okay now schedule has been updated
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On March 20 2016 20:44 Marcintosh wrote: Hello! Somebody knows at what time will start GPL group A? This info is not indicated on the bracket.
Monday, Mar 21 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
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On March 20 2016 21:17 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2016 20:44 Marcintosh wrote: Hello! Somebody knows at what time will start GPL group A? This info is not indicated on the bracket. Monday, Mar 21 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) Interesting, so at the same time as the Proleague play offs. The winner of these two events is obvious. But good that after the Proleague finishes, we can switch to GPL :-)
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On March 20 2016 21:30 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2016 21:17 digmouse wrote:On March 20 2016 20:44 Marcintosh wrote: Hello! Somebody knows at what time will start GPL group A? This info is not indicated on the bracket. Monday, Mar 21 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) Interesting, so at the same time as the Proleague play offs. The winner of these two events is obvious. But good that after the Proleague finishes, we can switch to GPL :-) It is one Bo3 GSL group per day so it might end before Proleague =(
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On March 20 2016 21:17 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2016 20:44 Marcintosh wrote: Hello! Somebody knows at what time will start GPL group A? This info is not indicated on the bracket. Monday, Mar 21 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
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On March 20 2016 22:33 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2016 21:30 Diabolique wrote:On March 20 2016 21:17 digmouse wrote:On March 20 2016 20:44 Marcintosh wrote: Hello! Somebody knows at what time will start GPL group A? This info is not indicated on the bracket. Monday, Mar 21 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) Interesting, so at the same time as the Proleague play offs. The winner of these two events is obvious. But good that after the Proleague finishes, we can switch to GPL :-) It is one Bo3 GSL group per day so it might end before Proleague =( Yes, but it will be 5 BO3 matches, while proleague is one BO7 match. And it is all kill, so it might be just 4 BO1 matches. So Proleague should end much sooner. But that applies just for the groups A and B. Group C will be played when GSL starts and that will last certainly longer. But we could watch at least group D.
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