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On May 02 2016 20:03 Charoisaur wrote: It seems jjackji was a better practice partner than stats who convinced TY that it's a good idea to 2 base zest.
2 base is still viable. It's what forgg does vs some protosses. Just because he didn't succeed doesn't make it an inferior way to win.
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On May 02 2016 20:26 Shield wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2016 20:03 Charoisaur wrote: It seems jjackji was a better practice partner than stats who convinced TY that it's a good idea to 2 base zest.
2 base is still viable. It's what forgg does vs some protosses. Just because he didn't succeed doesn't make it an inferior way to win. It's not just that he didn't succeed but zest crushed those timings so easily it was laughable.
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On May 02 2016 20:03 Charoisaur wrote: It seems jjackji was a better practice partner than stats who convinced TY that it's a good idea to 2 base zest.
I don't have the same insider information as you do, I was naively thinking that game 2 taught TY that being too greedy was a bad idea...
Anyway :
-game 1 : 3rd CC, win -game 2 : 3rd CC, looses to strong, well-thought build -game 3 : tries something with thors that fails, but it was prion terrace in a bo7, you gotta take chances. Moreover Zest's ultra fast third was certainly not part of the plan... -game 4 : TY goes for 5min 50 3rd CC, base trade, TY wins -game 5 : failed EB block into 2 base push to use the map specificity, it fails mainly because Zest easily fended off the first 2 medivacs 2 tanks + marines pressures -game 6 : we'll never know, but TY had prolly a 3rd planed if he hadn't built 2 factos.
So only real 2 base play is game3 (tired something, didn't work) and game 5 (Zest just outplays him) on 2 maps that are somewhat favouring agressive builds...
No big deal really.
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All this time, I’ve kept on getting matched up against strong players for the Ro16 so I kept on getting eliminated. So I hope that this time around that some bracket luck will follow me. I’m sure that I can think about aiming for the championship as long as I can just get to the Ro8. I want to win the Global Finals as well.
Well, I'm not afraid for the bracket luck in the Ro16 at BlizzCon this time. I have a feeling that... khm... every Korean will have a lucky draw.
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On May 02 2016 21:00 Sholip wrote:Show nested quote +All this time, I’ve kept on getting matched up against strong players for the Ro16 so I kept on getting eliminated. So I hope that this time around that some bracket luck will follow me. I’m sure that I can think about aiming for the championship as long as I can just get to the Ro8. I want to win the Global Finals as well.
Well, I'm not afraid for the bracket luck in the Ro16 at BlizzCon this time. I have a feeling that... khm... every Korean will have a lucky draw. Lol true
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On May 02 2016 21:21 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2016 21:00 Sholip wrote:All this time, I’ve kept on getting matched up against strong players for the Ro16 so I kept on getting eliminated. So I hope that this time around that some bracket luck will follow me. I’m sure that I can think about aiming for the championship as long as I can just get to the Ro8. I want to win the Global Finals as well.
Well, I'm not afraid for the bracket luck in the Ro16 at BlizzCon this time. I have a feeling that... khm... every Korean will have a lucky draw. Lol true
well it could be better if the weakest korean blizzcon participant lined up vs polt, then we might see WCS advance to ro8
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GG Zest, very nice games.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Thanks for the translation.
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Jjakji makes me happy. If he becomes great again, this could be a consolation for Life's downfall.
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Awesome translation as always Seeker!
Was rooting hard for TY, but Zest left no doubt who is best. You could see how much respect they both had for each other during the post-match interviews, as I've never seen a more subdued Starleague champion (despite Zest's obvious inner elation). Better buy Jjakji a nice meal for that preparation!
In my previous post on the finals preview, I explained why I already considered Zest the greatest Protoss in SC2. And now, his path towards being the greatest ever becomes even clearer. If 2016 becomes in essence a repeat of his historical year of '14 (as it's strongly looking like early on), there will be legitimate grounds for GOAT standing.
Before this year ends; if Zest is able to capture a third Starleague title, and/or win the WCS Global Finals, while continuing to dominate PL as KT's ace player and leading them deep into the season-ending playoffs, there will be little left for the Kingslayer to prove.
Assuming Life has left the game for good, the only other two comparables moving forward for GOAT consideration are Innovation and Maru.
The latter w/ his mind-numbing 10-0 PL record, as the ace player for a thus far historically dominant JAGW, looking like the biggest potential threat to Zest's universal claim going forward.
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Wonder if jjakji would consider becoming a coach whenever he decides to retire. Or if he'll find his stride again in LotV and make one last push, like he did in 2014 before he had to move out of WCS Europe.
Congrats to Zest though! And hope TY stays strong and keeps trying, he'll get his just desserts soon enough!
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On May 03 2016 04:08 Orr wrote: Awesome translation as always Seeker!
Was rooting hard for TY, but Zest left no doubt who is best. You could see how much respect they both had for each other during the post-match interviews, as I've never seen a more subdued Starleague champion (despite Zest's obvious inner elation). Better buy Jjakji a nice meal for that preparation!
In my previous post on the finals preview, I explained why I already considered Zest the greatest Protoss in SC2. And now, his path towards being the greatest ever becomes even clearer. If 2016 becomes in essence a repeat of his historical year of '14 (as it's strongly looking like early on), there will be legitimate grounds for GOAT standing.
Before this year ends; if Zest is able to capture a third Starleague title, and/or win the WCS Global Finals, while continuing to dominate PL as KT's ace player and leading them deep into the season-ending playoffs, there will be little left for the Kingslayer to prove.
Assuming Life has left the game for good, the only other two comparables moving forward for GOAT consideration are Innovation and Maru.
The latter w/ his mind-numbing 10-0 PL record, as the ace player for a thus far historically dominant JAGW, looking like the biggest potential threat to Zest's universal claim going forward.
Could happen. Crazy he was barely on the radar coming into 2014 :p
I'd say he's now the #1 Protoss in sc2 history. Even MC thinks so (MC still #1 in my heart though):
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Czech Republic12115 Posts
For past few months Zest is undoubtedly the best Protoss player in the world. He's above everyone else
Thanks, jjakji, for making Zest the winner
Thanks for the translation!
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On May 02 2016 19:13 Silvana wrote:Haha sorry Zest but you'll have to get used to teamkills Jjakji the mvp!
KT stronk yo.
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I love Zest even more now *feints*
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What a classy player, his domination may just bring me back to Sc2. Came back from a 3 year hiatus of dota to watch Zest's path in this GSL finals
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On May 02 2016 20:03 Charoisaur wrote: It seems jjackji was a better practice partner than stats who convinced TY that it's a good idea to 2 base zest.
Stats being a dick is the true story here.
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