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TL:DR banshee speed is slower then the air units of z/p and be honest you havent seen them in anything semblent tournament play, i would rather increase their speed but retain fusioncore tech requirement since they cant shoot air making them good lategame with mech. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Since lotv was released terran had some funky abilities that were never seen, bc warp at 125 energy, banshee speed at fusion core and high capacity fuel tanks from techlab for the medivac.
Now lo and behold after 10 months (october 2015 - august 2016) they decided "hey nobody are using the new features we added, so lets change them to make them useful" BUT
in the latest community feedback blizzard are nerfing the speed of speedbanshees despite banshees being at 5.25 WITH SPEED, mutalisk at 5.6(0.35 faster) and phoenix at 5.86(0.61 faster)...
so banshees cant shoot air and ground only ground, they are produced from very scoutable tech (starport with techlab), have no anti air, are succeptible to feedback and oracle revelation
and zerg has 8 range queens with faster rooting sporecrawlers and 25% faster hydralisks with 7 range after last patch...
Now i am worried they will "buffnerf" banshee speed making it like the old d-8 qxc reaper for lategame vs the new "starts with speed" useless in lategame reaper...
CONCLUSION
i would rather have fast banshees lategame then cheese "medium speed" banshees earlygame, it would make more sense to increase the speed of the banshees but retain the fusion core tech requirement if they are going to nerf them in this fashion!
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It's not the units at this point, it's the maps. Implicit in what you're saying is that banshees have nowhere to go. Maps should be big and complex enough such that upgraded Banshees, despite there being Hydras on the map, should still be effective in a game.
Opposing map corners are just a sprint's distance away for lings (too small).
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Problem I think is that Banshee are so much better then muta or phenix against marines so if the banshee go to fast that viking can never catch them (since you have to scan you can't realy expect to hit a speed banshee more then once) it make it so hard to ever push across the map, they can just kite your marine or snipe the tank while cloak and it become super frustating. Having them be even quicker willI think just make it even more frustating as bio in tvt, since you don't have 100 turrets like mech.
I could be wrong I haven't played a lot of game against speed banshee (since the rest of mech is weak) but I fear it could be realy bad in tvt with the buff mech if they go even faster then now.
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No, speed banshee was always a stupid idea imo. I am glad they are reverting it, there is no point that it should be faster then Muta/Phoenix, it's not a unit designed to be made all game just like the Reaper.
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Well it is balence map after all. What the hell do you expect. Jeeze !!! Don't be surprised if 50% of the changes you see currently don't even make it to live.
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You meant "Is" blizzard going back. Common mistake
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I see there's a grammatical error there. "Is."
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The thing I disagree with is tanks one-shotting lings. That's just going a bit too far. Tanks should just do 30 (+ 40), and then they wouldn't even have to make the baneling change.
Banshees being fast without an upgrade is far too annoying. Blizzard's tendency to balance by speed is incredibly irritating as there are multiple ways to balance units (cost, supply, damage) and that seems to be their go-to in every situation.
Hydras also need an HP buff .
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Not being able to chase down banshees with MUTAS is quite the memes mates
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Blue post said dont get too excited, so idk...
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The banshee was never meant to outrun all air units. It was meant to outrun all mobile detection with speed.
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If its "is" shouldn't it also be a singular word instead of "their"?
I think the subject is referring to the multiple people working on SC2 at Blizzard, and not the singular company, and thus "are" is correct.
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On August 29 2016 14:48 a_flayer wrote: If its "is" shouldn't it also be a singular word instead of "their"?
I think the subject is referring to the multiple people working on SC2 at Blizzard, and not the singular company, and thus "are" is correct.
he used blizzard in the context of a corporation. though it is made up of many people, it is singular, not plural. in no way *is* the title grammatically correct.
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Sometimes I think banshee seems better suited for a ground unit - instead of that crappy Cyclone.
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On August 29 2016 15:17 sc2chronic wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 14:48 a_flayer wrote: If its "is" shouldn't it also be a singular word instead of "their"?
I think the subject is referring to the multiple people working on SC2 at Blizzard, and not the singular company, and thus "are" is correct. he used blizzard in the context of a corporation. though it is made up of many people, it is singular, not plural. in no way *is* the title grammatically correct.
Well, I dunno man, I've had several English teachers explain to me how you can use both plural and singular in many of these cases. I think its fine. And if its not, then I call for civil disobedience in an effort to change the rules to better suit the reality of the situation.
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On August 29 2016 16:08 a_flayer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2016 15:17 sc2chronic wrote:On August 29 2016 14:48 a_flayer wrote: If its "is" shouldn't it also be a singular word instead of "their"?
I think the subject is referring to the multiple people working on SC2 at Blizzard, and not the singular company, and thus "are" is correct. he used blizzard in the context of a corporation. though it is made up of many people, it is singular, not plural. in no way *is* the title grammatically correct. Well, I dunno man, I've had several English teachers explain to me how you can use both plural and singular in many of these cases. I think its fine. And if its not, then I call for civil disobedience in an effort to change the rules to better suit the reality of the situation.
its not fine. please have some respect for the english language. im surprised op hasnt been banned already. because of the error in his title i completely disregard his opinion on any subject matter.
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Im actually super interested in if "their" is a proper pronoun? PS. "is" is of course correct.
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I think in this case "Blizzard" refer to a group of employees at the company Blizzard (the developers/balance people), then wouldn't "are" be correct? Like "are they"?
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Or he meant directly to Blizzard. "Are you [Blizzard] going back ...?" as 2nd person singular
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