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On September 26 2016 19:02 Fango wrote: TY usually gets rekt by Maru at least in SPL. Thing is we never see Maru, TY, or Byun fight eachother in a series. One of them gotta be the best TvTer. Theres a good chance they meet in ro8 and ro4.
Also Neeb is quite well known on Korea and on the ladder, i doubt they will not prepare for him. Nerchio and MLord maybe, although Dark did say he looked at the Shoutcraft games so other probably have.
INno's the best TvTer
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On September 26 2016 19:15 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 19:02 Fango wrote: TY usually gets rekt by Maru at least in SPL. Thing is we never see Maru, TY, or Byun fight eachother in a series. One of them gotta be the best TvTer. Theres a good chance they meet in ro8 and ro4.
Also Neeb is quite well known on Korea and on the ladder, i doubt they will not prepare for him. Nerchio and MLord maybe, although Dark did say he looked at the Shoutcraft games so other probably have.
INno's the best TvTer
After J-god.
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On September 26 2016 19:15 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 19:02 Fango wrote: TY usually gets rekt by Maru at least in SPL. Thing is we never see Maru, TY, or Byun fight eachother in a series. One of them gotta be the best TvTer. Theres a good chance they meet in ro8 and ro4.
Also Neeb is quite well known on Korea and on the ladder, i doubt they will not prepare for him. Nerchio and MLord maybe, although Dark did say he looked at the Shoutcraft games so other probably have.
INno's the best TvTer
After the main patch he actually might be, what with the return of mech
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On September 26 2016 18:06 FrkFrJss wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 17:36 Diabolique wrote: I would really wish MarineLord to get out of the group together with Trap, but I know, it is practically impossible.
Neeb should get out of the group, but not when the group consists of Zest, ByuN and Rogue :-)) No chance.
Nerchio could get of any average random Korean group. E.g. group B. But he has no chance against Maru (after he has beaten him in ShoutCraft, Maru will take him seriously) and Patience and Classic will fight for their BlizzCon life ... Without this special motivation, I would say, Nerchio could beat one of them, but not in a situation, when everything is on the line for them. For MarineLord...yeah. I like how you slam group B as an "average" Korean group, which, more than the others groups, it kind of is. The question for me is what kind of game will Zest and Rogue bring. Zest may have had a few bad months, but before that, he was practically invincible. But rogue, on the other hand, has only a ro16 GSL placement this year, and even his proleague is only 10th. So will they bring their a game? Or will they underestimate Neeb as you said they would have underestimated Nerchio? If Zest and Rogue were playing at tip top level, the yeah, Neeb doesn't really stand a chance. But if they don't being their best form, then he might win or at least upset one. For Nerchio, I think if he can play patience, then he has a chance. Patience is wierd because he somehow manages to win with rather ugly games. And the ugly games are where foreigners and Koreans are more similar because people don't play perfect in those games. Zest had bad results, but I do not think, he lost all his skills from the past. It is time for him to get back to the top. Rogue for me is an amazing player, who always surprises and beats the best opponents, against whom nobody gives him any chance. I think, he is the second best Zerg in the world and he is capable to beat the best Zerg in the world. Capable to beat Zest, capable to beat ByuN. He is not good in winning a weekend tournament with many matches, but in the short series, he is the master and I hope, he will make it out of the group.
Under normal circumstances, I would say, Nerchio could beat both Classic and Patience. But if he does, they are out of BlizzCon. Patience has just beaten sOs 2:0, who was fighting for his BlizzCon life. After sOs demolished herO and MyungSiK. He must be seriously good now. I know, it was PvP and this will be PvZ but I still cannot imagine an upset here.
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On September 26 2016 20:01 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 18:06 FrkFrJss wrote:On September 26 2016 17:36 Diabolique wrote: I would really wish MarineLord to get out of the group together with Trap, but I know, it is practically impossible.
Neeb should get out of the group, but not when the group consists of Zest, ByuN and Rogue :-)) No chance.
Nerchio could get of any average random Korean group. E.g. group B. But he has no chance against Maru (after he has beaten him in ShoutCraft, Maru will take him seriously) and Patience and Classic will fight for their BlizzCon life ... Without this special motivation, I would say, Nerchio could beat one of them, but not in a situation, when everything is on the line for them. For MarineLord...yeah. I like how you slam group B as an "average" Korean group, which, more than the others groups, it kind of is. The question for me is what kind of game will Zest and Rogue bring. Zest may have had a few bad months, but before that, he was practically invincible. But rogue, on the other hand, has only a ro16 GSL placement this year, and even his proleague is only 10th. So will they bring their a game? Or will they underestimate Neeb as you said they would have underestimated Nerchio? If Zest and Rogue were playing at tip top level, the yeah, Neeb doesn't really stand a chance. But if they don't being their best form, then he might win or at least upset one. For Nerchio, I think if he can play patience, then he has a chance. Patience is wierd because he somehow manages to win with rather ugly games. And the ugly games are where foreigners and Koreans are more similar because people don't play perfect in those games. Zest had bad results, but I do not think, he lost all his skills from the past. It is time for him to get back to the top. Rogue for me is an amazing player, who always surprises and beats the best opponents, against whom nobody gives him any chance. I think, he is the second best Zerg in the world and he is capable to beat the best Zerg in the world. Capable to beat Zest, capable to beat ByuN. He is not good in winning a weekend tournament with many matches, but in the short series, he is the master and I hope, he will make it out of the group. Under normal circumstances, I would say, Nerchio could beat both Classic and Patience. But if he does, they are out of BlizzCon. Patience has just beaten sOs 2:0, who was fighting for his BlizzCon life. After sOs demolished herO and MyungSiK. He must be seriously good now. I know, it was PvP and this will be PvZ but I still cannot imagine an upset here.
You think Nerchio can beat Classic? Classic almost beat dark in SSL semifinals in one of the closest PvZs I've ever seen. Classic is easily top 2 maybe number 1 PvZer in Korea.
Patience maybe, I think he's a bit overrated recently. He got a lot of wins against top players but i think a lot of it was luck (TY throwing games to get a better seed, Zest being terrible etc). But still an SSl ro4 is a great result.
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On September 26 2016 20:01 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 18:06 FrkFrJss wrote:On September 26 2016 17:36 Diabolique wrote: I would really wish MarineLord to get out of the group together with Trap, but I know, it is practically impossible.
Neeb should get out of the group, but not when the group consists of Zest, ByuN and Rogue :-)) No chance.
Nerchio could get of any average random Korean group. E.g. group B. But he has no chance against Maru (after he has beaten him in ShoutCraft, Maru will take him seriously) and Patience and Classic will fight for their BlizzCon life ... Without this special motivation, I would say, Nerchio could beat one of them, but not in a situation, when everything is on the line for them. For MarineLord...yeah. I like how you slam group B as an "average" Korean group, which, more than the others groups, it kind of is. The question for me is what kind of game will Zest and Rogue bring. Zest may have had a few bad months, but before that, he was practically invincible. But rogue, on the other hand, has only a ro16 GSL placement this year, and even his proleague is only 10th. So will they bring their a game? Or will they underestimate Neeb as you said they would have underestimated Nerchio? If Zest and Rogue were playing at tip top level, the yeah, Neeb doesn't really stand a chance. But if they don't being their best form, then he might win or at least upset one. For Nerchio, I think if he can play patience, then he has a chance. Patience is wierd because he somehow manages to win with rather ugly games. And the ugly games are where foreigners and Koreans are more similar because people don't play perfect in those games. Zest had bad results, but I do not think, he lost all his skills from the past. It is time for him to get back to the top. Rogue for me is an amazing player, who always surprises and beats the best opponents, against whom nobody gives him any chance. I think, he is the second best Zerg in the world and he is capable to beat the best Zerg in the world. Capable to beat Zest, capable to beat ByuN. He is not good in winning a weekend tournament with many matches, but in the short series, he is the master and I hope, he will make it out of the group. Under normal circumstances, I would say, Nerchio could beat both Classic and Patience. But if he does, they are out of BlizzCon. Patience has just beaten sOs 2:0, who was fighting for his BlizzCon life. After sOs demolished herO and MyungSiK. He must be seriously good now. I know, it was PvP and this will be PvZ but I still cannot imagine an upset here.
You honestly believe Rogue is the second best Zerg?
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On September 26 2016 13:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:So you are saying you wanna sigbet me?
what would the sigbet be again? that a foreigner can make it out of groups?
it wouldn't really be a fair bet for me . not because I don't have faith in the foreigners but just because there's only 3 foreigners out of 16 players that if we gave them equal weighting then foreigners wouldn't advance. I'm not stupid haha
edit: also, I'll admit.. I am watching the crossfinal games now. geeze... this is some sharp play. it is scary indeed
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On September 27 2016 06:36 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 13:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:So you are saying you wanna sigbet me? what would the sigbet be again? that a foreigner can make it out of groups? it wouldn't really be a fair bet for me . not because I don't have faith in the foreigners but just because there's only 3 foreigners out of 16 players that if we gave them equal weighting then foreigners wouldn't advance. I'm not stupid haha edit: also, I'll admit.. I am watching the crossfinal games now. geeze... this is some sharp play. it is scary indeed I just try to get some sigbets going, if you guys don't like my initial bet you can negotiate a better one
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On September 27 2016 03:41 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 20:01 Diabolique wrote:On September 26 2016 18:06 FrkFrJss wrote:On September 26 2016 17:36 Diabolique wrote: I would really wish MarineLord to get out of the group together with Trap, but I know, it is practically impossible.
Neeb should get out of the group, but not when the group consists of Zest, ByuN and Rogue :-)) No chance.
Nerchio could get of any average random Korean group. E.g. group B. But he has no chance against Maru (after he has beaten him in ShoutCraft, Maru will take him seriously) and Patience and Classic will fight for their BlizzCon life ... Without this special motivation, I would say, Nerchio could beat one of them, but not in a situation, when everything is on the line for them. For MarineLord...yeah. I like how you slam group B as an "average" Korean group, which, more than the others groups, it kind of is. The question for me is what kind of game will Zest and Rogue bring. Zest may have had a few bad months, but before that, he was practically invincible. But rogue, on the other hand, has only a ro16 GSL placement this year, and even his proleague is only 10th. So will they bring their a game? Or will they underestimate Neeb as you said they would have underestimated Nerchio? If Zest and Rogue were playing at tip top level, the yeah, Neeb doesn't really stand a chance. But if they don't being their best form, then he might win or at least upset one. For Nerchio, I think if he can play patience, then he has a chance. Patience is wierd because he somehow manages to win with rather ugly games. And the ugly games are where foreigners and Koreans are more similar because people don't play perfect in those games. Zest had bad results, but I do not think, he lost all his skills from the past. It is time for him to get back to the top. Rogue for me is an amazing player, who always surprises and beats the best opponents, against whom nobody gives him any chance. I think, he is the second best Zerg in the world and he is capable to beat the best Zerg in the world. Capable to beat Zest, capable to beat ByuN. He is not good in winning a weekend tournament with many matches, but in the short series, he is the master and I hope, he will make it out of the group. Under normal circumstances, I would say, Nerchio could beat both Classic and Patience. But if he does, they are out of BlizzCon. Patience has just beaten sOs 2:0, who was fighting for his BlizzCon life. After sOs demolished herO and MyungSiK. He must be seriously good now. I know, it was PvP and this will be PvZ but I still cannot imagine an upset here. You honestly believe Rogue is the second best Zerg? Well, Rogue has beaten with glory all the other best Zergs, so I should say, he is the BEST Zerg, but that would be stupid to say after Dark's and Solar's performances in the last month.
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On September 27 2016 06:36 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 13:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:So you are saying you wanna sigbet me? what would the sigbet be again? that a foreigner can make it out of groups? it wouldn't really be a fair bet for me . not because I don't have faith in the foreigners but just because there's only 3 foreigners out of 16 players that if we gave them equal weighting then foreigners wouldn't advance. I'm not stupid haha edit: also, I'll admit.. I am watching the crossfinal games now. geeze... this is some sharp play. it is scary indeed
Weighing everything equally (i.e we're assuming that everyone is equally skilled) one or more foreigners would make it out of the groups 87.5% of the time. So that excuse doesn't work.
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On September 27 2016 07:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2016 06:36 travis wrote:On September 26 2016 13:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:So you are saying you wanna sigbet me? what would the sigbet be again? that a foreigner can make it out of groups? it wouldn't really be a fair bet for me . not because I don't have faith in the foreigners but just because there's only 3 foreigners out of 16 players that if we gave them equal weighting then foreigners wouldn't advance. I'm not stupid haha edit: also, I'll admit.. I am watching the crossfinal games now. geeze... this is some sharp play. it is scary indeed Weighing everything equally (i.e we're assuming that everyone is equally skilled) one or more foreigners would make it out of the groups 87.5% of the time. So that excuse doesn't work.
I suppose you're right. my intuition was off since I was glancing over the fact that it's basically 3 coinflips since 2 people advance, not just 1
so fine viper if you're still here, what does the sigbet entail
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On September 27 2016 08:59 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2016 07:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On September 27 2016 06:36 travis wrote:On September 26 2016 13:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:So you are saying you wanna sigbet me? what would the sigbet be again? that a foreigner can make it out of groups? it wouldn't really be a fair bet for me . not because I don't have faith in the foreigners but just because there's only 3 foreigners out of 16 players that if we gave them equal weighting then foreigners wouldn't advance. I'm not stupid haha edit: also, I'll admit.. I am watching the crossfinal games now. geeze... this is some sharp play. it is scary indeed Weighing everything equally (i.e we're assuming that everyone is equally skilled) one or more foreigners would make it out of the groups 87.5% of the time. So that excuse doesn't work. I suppose you're right. my intuition was off since I was glancing over the fact that it's basically 3 coinflips since 2 people advance, not just 1 so fine viper if you're still here, what does the sigbet entail
Full control over the signature for one month? I would go up to a max of three months, i never again will lose my signature for one year -.- I am saying no foreigner will advance from groups. (TRUE doesn't count here)
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On September 27 2016 09:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2016 08:59 travis wrote:On September 27 2016 07:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On September 27 2016 06:36 travis wrote:On September 26 2016 13:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:So you are saying you wanna sigbet me? what would the sigbet be again? that a foreigner can make it out of groups? it wouldn't really be a fair bet for me . not because I don't have faith in the foreigners but just because there's only 3 foreigners out of 16 players that if we gave them equal weighting then foreigners wouldn't advance. I'm not stupid haha edit: also, I'll admit.. I am watching the crossfinal games now. geeze... this is some sharp play. it is scary indeed Weighing everything equally (i.e we're assuming that everyone is equally skilled) one or more foreigners would make it out of the groups 87.5% of the time. So that excuse doesn't work. I suppose you're right. my intuition was off since I was glancing over the fact that it's basically 3 coinflips since 2 people advance, not just 1 so fine viper if you're still here, what does the sigbet entail Full control over the signature for one month? I would go up to a max of three months, i never again will lose my signature for one year -.- I am saying no foreigner will advance from groups. (TRUE doesn't count here)
one month, and that's fine no breaking of TL rules in the sig, of course
edit: you'll need to say you agree before it starts, or no deal I'll be in bed
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On September 27 2016 10:05 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2016 09:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 27 2016 08:59 travis wrote:On September 27 2016 07:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On September 27 2016 06:36 travis wrote:On September 26 2016 13:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:So you are saying you wanna sigbet me? what would the sigbet be again? that a foreigner can make it out of groups? it wouldn't really be a fair bet for me . not because I don't have faith in the foreigners but just because there's only 3 foreigners out of 16 players that if we gave them equal weighting then foreigners wouldn't advance. I'm not stupid haha edit: also, I'll admit.. I am watching the crossfinal games now. geeze... this is some sharp play. it is scary indeed Weighing everything equally (i.e we're assuming that everyone is equally skilled) one or more foreigners would make it out of the groups 87.5% of the time. So that excuse doesn't work. I suppose you're right. my intuition was off since I was glancing over the fact that it's basically 3 coinflips since 2 people advance, not just 1 so fine viper if you're still here, what does the sigbet entail Full control over the signature for one month? I would go up to a max of three months, i never again will lose my signature for one year -.- I am saying no foreigner will advance from groups. (TRUE doesn't count here) one month, and that's fine no breaking of TL rules in the sig, of course edit: you'll need to say you agree before it starts, or no deal I'll be in bed Sure i agree with that
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the fact since 2011, foreigners have been always learning sc2 after rekted by Koreans Recent spot of education was Lilbow vs Life 2015 And I really think the best moment of foreigners was around 2010-2012 when Kespa players were still playing BW at that time. I don't even care whoever wins this tournament seriously. But sorry guys, this is the fact so far he he
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On September 27 2016 16:03 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2016 10:05 travis wrote:On September 27 2016 09:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:On September 27 2016 08:59 travis wrote:On September 27 2016 07:41 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On September 27 2016 06:36 travis wrote:On September 26 2016 13:08 The_Red_Viper wrote:So you are saying you wanna sigbet me? what would the sigbet be again? that a foreigner can make it out of groups? it wouldn't really be a fair bet for me . not because I don't have faith in the foreigners but just because there's only 3 foreigners out of 16 players that if we gave them equal weighting then foreigners wouldn't advance. I'm not stupid haha edit: also, I'll admit.. I am watching the crossfinal games now. geeze... this is some sharp play. it is scary indeed Weighing everything equally (i.e we're assuming that everyone is equally skilled) one or more foreigners would make it out of the groups 87.5% of the time. So that excuse doesn't work. I suppose you're right. my intuition was off since I was glancing over the fact that it's basically 3 coinflips since 2 people advance, not just 1 so fine viper if you're still here, what does the sigbet entail Full control over the signature for one month? I would go up to a max of three months, i never again will lose my signature for one year -.- I am saying no foreigner will advance from groups. (TRUE doesn't count here) one month, and that's fine no breaking of TL rules in the sig, of course edit: you'll need to say you agree before it starts, or no deal I'll be in bed Sure i agree with that Best sigbet ever
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RIP Neeb just RIPPED me and Rogue + Zest :D
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No separate thread for what just happened? TL disapoints. edit: nvm found it.
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lol I woke up and spoilered myself
I already won the bet? hah
I'm excited to check out the games after my exam. Hopefully neeb won on his merits rather than on the koreans playing bad.
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On September 27 2016 20:54 travis wrote: lol I woke up and spoilered myself
I already won the bet? hah
I'm excited to check out the games after my exam. Hopefully neeb won on his merits rather than on the koreans playing bad. It's always because Koreans play bad. Not like foreigners can too or that the same excuses can't be applied both ways. It's a one way street with the excuses.
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