Does SPOTV want to host actual Starcraft events?
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Incognoto
France10234 Posts
Does SPOTV want to host actual Starcraft events? | ||
todespolka
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On December 10 2016 02:29 CynicalDeath wrote: ...what's the point of keeping the "dividing line" between Korean WCS and Foreigner WCS if Korean Sc2 is basically no more? this is just stupid, it seems almost they did it without taking into count the last 2 months events... Its pretty easy to understand. Foreigner scene is healthy, Korean scene isnt. No matter what you believe, foreigners are still shit. Koreans will fill the top ranks of each tournament, foreigners will earn not enough money and retire. The foreigner scene will die out and disappear. Korean scene doesnt produce new blood. If foreigner scene dies, the sc2 disappears world wide. Kespa doesnt matter. The best players practise on korean server, but foreigners have no access to that server. You cant get as good or better, if you cant practise with the best (especially after the recent patch changes). | ||
Elentos
55454 Posts
On December 12 2016 21:00 Incognoto wrote: What's up with that? Does SPOTV want to host actual Starcraft events? Sounds like they took a lot of pride in SSL and want to keep involved in the scene. Which I find quite surprising considering SSL season 1 looked like they were more than willing to drop SC2 entirely. | ||
Incognoto
France10234 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On December 12 2016 21:41 The_Red_Viper wrote: Let's see if SPOTV will actually do some tournaments, right now this seems more like PR talk If they wanted to leave they just wouldn't say anything. | ||
[16thSq] Kuro
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The_Red_Viper
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On December 12 2016 21:52 The_Red_Viper wrote: I mean without WCS points also basically means no money from blizzard. Seems hard to do tournaments that way. I can understand why Blizzard would rather fund more GSL tournaments than Starleague, they get a lot more attention even if Starleague is a great tournament. I hope SPOTV will find a way to put on some tournaments though, if they still want to that is. + Show Spoiler + | ||
Penev
28337 Posts
Hard to get the money for it probably tho | ||
Eighty7Gaming
12 Posts
On December 12 2016 10:27 Eighty7Gaming wrote: Is the region lock successful? Seems like it has failed. Koreans simply moved out of korea. Byun doninated, true vs polt final. A failed experiment? Viewership hasn't increased either. The Koreans that moved out of Korea is in the single digits. It isnt like 2013 or 2014 where we had a bunch of Koreans in WCS America and Europe. Also we have a lot more chance that pro foreigners can afford to go pro. Compare foreigner earnings 2014-2015 to 2016. [/QUOTE] True.. there is that. | ||
lestye
United States4092 Posts
I hope they find sponsors to have their own events even if its outside Blizzard's WCS. That would be a delight. | ||
showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On December 13 2016 03:57 lestye wrote: What does SPOTV do outside of Starcraft, anyway? They used to broadcast Dota but that died. I hope they find sponsors to have their own events even if its outside Blizzard's WCS. That would be a delight. Mostly LoL, FIFA and that Korean Action game. They're doing the Hearthstone Kespa Cup at the moment. They even have Wolf and Valdes casting it....for a viewership of about 45. | ||
Lexender
Mexico2608 Posts
Things look bad because theres less tournaments OVERALL but that is hardly Blizzards fault considering, for example, there seem to be only 2 IEMs with SC2 this year. | ||
Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On December 13 2016 06:30 Lexender wrote: I have no idea what people think korea got the short end of the stick, theres more korean tournaments than foreigner ones and more global events. Meanwhile the 4 DH events are basically the old WCS premier seasons with corresponding challlenger. Things look bad because theres less tournaments OVERALL but that is hardly Blizzards fault considering, for example, there seem to be only 2 IEMs with SC2 this year. There are only 2 IEMs left in the current IEM season. | ||
r_gg
141 Posts
On December 13 2016 03:57 lestye wrote: What does SPOTV do outside of Starcraft, anyway? They used to broadcast Dota but that died. I hope they find sponsors to have their own events even if its outside Blizzard's WCS. That would be a delight. Mostly games from Nexxon, who practically owns the channel as you can sorta tell from the studio. They could also be doubling down on their LCK co-broadcast which they worked so hard to get despite the criticism (coincidence?). | ||
Eighty7Gaming
12 Posts
As firecake said they can't survive so forcing prize money over game quality is not a success. Back in 2013 we had cooperation with the Koreans and team houses but that is no more. Forcing monopoly in the scene has created less events, less competition, less opportunities for foreigners to make money in the long run. | ||
Swisslink
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On December 13 2016 06:30 Lexender wrote: I have no idea what people think korea got the short end of the stick, theres more korean tournaments than foreigner ones and more global events. Meanwhile the 4 DH events are basically the old WCS premier seasons with corresponding challlenger. Things look bad because theres less tournaments OVERALL but that is hardly Blizzards fault considering, for example, there seem to be only 2 IEMs with SC2 this year. Because Korean Events are practically Global Events. One could argue that the GSL Seasons do have some kind of soft-region lock, because you pretty much have to live in Korea to participate. But the weekend tournaments don't (or ar least they don't have it any more than any other weekend tournament around the globe) So yes, Korea definitely got the short end here. It's good for the viewers that we finally get more Korean vs. Foreigner action, but that doesn't make it fair, even less does it mean that the Koreans didn't get the short end here. You got 3 exclusively Korean tournaments (there is no residency lock for the super tournaments) and way more tournaments that are exclusively for the foreign scene. To use the argumentation of region lock supporters from last season: All the money foreigners get instead of the mid/lower tier Koreans hurts the Korean scene right now, because it reduces the chances of a Korean player to make a living out of it. | ||
Athelas
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Elentos
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On December 13 2016 09:16 Swisslink wrote: You got 3 exclusively Korean tournaments (there is no residency lock for the super tournaments) and way more tournaments that are exclusively for the foreign scene. The difference between 3 and 4 is not that big. And while there is no residency lock for any of the Korean tournaments, the odds that non-Koreans get through online qualifiers played on the Korean server are very low in the grand scheme of things (iAsonu making IEM is more of an outlier). | ||
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