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TaeJa didn't play gsl in his best years though so it's not entirely fair to count only korean tournaments. also sOs is surely a greater player than Sniper despite not having won a starleague.
Dark has the same amount of silvers in tier 1 tournaments as soO (2 KesPa Cups, SSL, Blizzcon) and has 1 SSL win vs soO's KesPa Cup win. Also he has 1 gold and 1 silver in crossfinals.
before this season I would've put Dark ahead but with soO's 5th gsl appearance he takes a slight lead imo.
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Great games, would be cool to see SoO bring the title this time.
Does Sos not play air toss? Not one game even trying to go for the "golden armada" but harass galore and Has level cheese.
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On March 16 2017 05:04 Charoisaur wrote: TaeJa didn't play gsl in his best years though so it's not entirely fair to count only korean tournaments. also sOs is surely a greater player than Sniper despite not having won a starleague.
Dark has the same amount of silvers in tier 1 tournaments as soO (2 KesPa Cups, SSL, Blizzcon) and has 1 SSL win vs soO's KesPa Cup win. Also he has 1 gold and 1 silver in crossfinals.
before this season I would've put Dark ahead but with soO's 5th gsl appearance he takes a slight lead imo.
Sure but i think it is more reasonable to weigh the scene more which has more consistency of top talent in it. I don't even wanna completely neglect every weekend tournament. I am merely pointing out why it's incredibly hard to weigh Taeja's wins against other top players simply because they for the most part only played in korea (yes not ONLY but as i said, in comparison it's basically that) I don't rate a Kespa cup the same i rate a starleague. Imo preparation and the fact that you have to do well over a longer period of time makes SSL/GSL/OSL superior to kespa cup or anything similar. Cross finals are basically show matches. Well as i said i don't have an "objective" system atm (objective as in consistent with the subjective criteria i would choose) so i cannot be sure, but atm i would give soO quite the lead because imo 5 GSL final appearances is superior to Dark's results and that quite easily. Winning this GSL might even put him above Life in my mind, maybe but i am not sure about that yet (because at that point i would really neglect every weekend tournament ever probably)
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If soO wins the finals there's gonna be so much crying. soO and that trophy are going to be like Audrey Hepburn and George Peppard at the end of Breakfast at Tiffany's.
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soO looked really solid. The better player definitely won today.
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On March 16 2017 05:16 The_Red_Viper wrote: (because at that point i would really neglect every weekend tournament ever probably) Well, not all of them. Just the results from like... two Blizzcons, two MLGs, two IEMs, two Dreamhacks and Iron Squid. And how hard could that possibly be?
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On March 16 2017 06:26 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2017 05:16 The_Red_Viper wrote: (because at that point i would really neglect every weekend tournament ever probably) Well, not all of them. Just the results from like... two Blizzcons, two MLGs, two IEMs, two Dreamhacks and Iron Squid. And how hard could that possibly be? Nah way more than that because i already said i don't only look at gold medals, that's flawed in my opinion
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So, Stats v soO. Come on soO, #AnyoneButProtoss.
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On March 15 2017 22:03 hexhaven wrote: I'd like to congratulate soO for his silver medal. ouch! so mean.
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On March 16 2017 02:27 BisuDagger wrote: soO > nestea if he wins this finals?
soO > Jaedong
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On March 16 2017 09:08 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2017 02:27 BisuDagger wrote: soO > nestea if he wins this finals? soO > Jaedong In sc2? Sure but that's not THAT hard
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I was a MEGA fanboy for NesTea back in the day, but the guy just didn't have the longevity to even be among the top 10 GOATS in my book. I'd of even ranked PartinG ahead of him. soO blows him out of the water and is EASILY the second best Zerg of all-time. I'm pretty indifferent to soO, so there really isn't any bias, I just have to keep it real. soO has the best mechanics I've ever seen from a Zerg in sc2.
In my estimation, soO is probably somewhere between #9-#7 in GOAT status. Taeja still murders him, deal with it :p
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On another note...why is Dark in the convo at all as far as GOATs go? Even before this season, he doesn't touch soO. He's behind both DRG and NesTea. Hell, if ByuL stages another major starleague run I'd argue for him over Dark. I don't even dislike Dark, but he strikes me as overrated.
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I predict soO vs. Stats. Lets hope soO finally gets it together.
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On March 16 2017 06:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2017 06:26 Elentos wrote:On March 16 2017 05:16 The_Red_Viper wrote: (because at that point i would really neglect every weekend tournament ever probably) Well, not all of them. Just the results from like... two Blizzcons, two MLGs, two IEMs, two Dreamhacks and Iron Squid. And how hard could that possibly be? Nah way more than that because i already said i don't only look at gold medals, that's flawed in my opinion It depends on the Gold medals too. We've had incredibly stacked IEMs and really tame ones. I'd be willing to count gold medals in GSLs straight up, notsomuch the weekend tournaments.
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On March 16 2017 10:58 lestye wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2017 06:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 16 2017 06:26 Elentos wrote:On March 16 2017 05:16 The_Red_Viper wrote: (because at that point i would really neglect every weekend tournament ever probably) Well, not all of them. Just the results from like... two Blizzcons, two MLGs, two IEMs, two Dreamhacks and Iron Squid. And how hard could that possibly be? Nah way more than that because i already said i don't only look at gold medals, that's flawed in my opinion It depends on the Gold medals too. We've had incredibly stacked IEMs and really tame ones. I'd be willing to count gold medals in GSLs straight up, notsomuch the weekend tournaments.
so you think this should be rated above this? Context is everything. Same reason why calling random GOM events GSLs is shitty practice
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I'm a zerg user so it goes w/out saying, I'm rooting for soO.
Having said that the Buffalo Bills went to 4 straight Super Bowls from 1990 to 1993. We all know what they're remembered for. I would feel soO bad if history repeats itself.
GoGo Zerg! Good luck soO.
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On March 16 2017 11:03 munch wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2017 10:58 lestye wrote:On March 16 2017 06:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:On March 16 2017 06:26 Elentos wrote:On March 16 2017 05:16 The_Red_Viper wrote: (because at that point i would really neglect every weekend tournament ever probably) Well, not all of them. Just the results from like... two Blizzcons, two MLGs, two IEMs, two Dreamhacks and Iron Squid. And how hard could that possibly be? Nah way more than that because i already said i don't only look at gold medals, that's flawed in my opinion It depends on the Gold medals too. We've had incredibly stacked IEMs and really tame ones. I'd be willing to count gold medals in GSLs straight up, notsomuch the weekend tournaments. so you think this should be rated above this? Context is everything. Same reason why calling random GOM events GSLs is shitty practice Well even in the dreamhack you listed there weren't really all that many absolute top tier players in it which then decreases the whole lvl of competition. (yes taeja had quite the legit path to the championship, but what would have happened if any of the top 8 GSL players would have competed there as well for example?) On the other hand the early days of sc2 weren't all that competitive to begin with because the talent pool wasn't that deep yet.
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