SoO no match for Stats? LOL. I would not disagree more. As if being 5 times in Code S finals is nothing of an achievment. Even being second soO isone of the most consistent Zerg players out there. Even when Zerg is underrepresented in Korea sc2 scene against all odds he is in another finals beating TY and sOs and many more great players. I would say this finals will be even as hell.
soO has spectacular consistency to be in five GSL finals, yes. To get to this one he has displayed amazing skill, tenacity, and talent. soO is most certainly among the top players in the world. All this is true.
But Stats was in the finals of IEM Gyeonggi. Of IEM Katowice. His current form is close to unstoppable. He is arguably the best player in the world. And while soO is great, Stats is greater.
I very much hope that soO wins. I am rooting for soO, not Stats. But there's no denying that Stats is the favorite going into the finals.
I would not say Soo lacks mechanical skills. Actually he has the best mechanic amongs the greatest Zergs of all time, he just usually fell short in the finals. If Stats pulls out agressive play, there will be a big chance of Soo winning, because he's well known for holding strong and macro up under pressure.
Neither am I. soO has great mechanics, no doubt about that at all. What I am saying is that his mechanics are not as good as those of Dark, the greatest macro Zerg, or INnoVation, the strongest mechanical player.
I agree that soO has a better chance if Stats is aggressive, because lategame PvZ is Protoss-favored and Stats has shown his skill in lategame multiple times against Dark, Nerchio, etc.
Either IEM geongi or IEM Katowice (i was there live) were not stacked with top Zerg players. Must I remind u that last few months in Korea was Zerg downfall? And soO and arrguably Byul were the only Zerg players that were able to win vs toss or terran?. SoO is mechanical beast that worries not about bringing some allin and cheesy tactics. SoO is the only Zerg who is complete in every aspect of the game. Even more than Dark who is known because of his midgame or lategame play. SoO is the first and only Zerg whi has incorporated Matiz/Elazer Ravager allin successfuly in Korea pro play. He is the ultimate boss at his bottom and the most complete Zerg player at his tops. Your statement underrestimates SoO and fluffs Stats too much as Stats risen up over PvT imbalance.
Either IEM geongi or IEM Katowice (i was there live) were not stacked with top Zerg players. Must I remind u that last few months in Korea was Zerg downfall? And soO and arrguably Byul were the only Zerg players that were able to win vs toss or terran?. SoO is mechanical beast that worries not about bringing some allin and cheesy tactics. SoO is the only Zerg who is complete in every aspect of the game. Even more than Dark who is known because of his midgame or lategame play. SoO is the first and only Zerg whi has incorporated Matiz/Elazer Ravager allin successfuly in Korea pro play. He is the ultimate boss at his bottom and the most complete Zerg player at his tops. Your statement underrestimates SoO and fluffs Stats too much as Stats risen up over PvT imbalance.
It's true that Stats owes a lot of his current form to excellent PvT. But his PvZ is also more than capable. In recent times, he's beaten ByuL, Nerchio, Rogue, and Dark offline, and I'd still argue that the matchup is Protoss-favored on top of that. PvZ is not his best matchup, sure, but that says more about how good he is against Terran than anything else.
In recent times, soO has lost to Zest and Dear, and his only strong result was beating sOs (who is not on the level of Stats). I'd agree that soO plays a more cheesy game than say Dark, but to me that signals his lack of faith in his own lategame. Dark tries to take it to lategame because he is supremely confident in his macro and knows that very few people can match him as games go long. soO can't say the same about himself, so he cheeses.
It boils down to this: soO is a great player with a lot of heart whom I really hope will win. Stats is a greater player and the favorite whom I expect to win.
Either IEM geongi or IEM Katowice (i was there live) were not stacked with top Zerg players. Must I remind u that last few months in Korea was Zerg downfall? And soO and arrguably Byul were the only Zerg players that were able to win vs toss or terran?. SoO is mechanical beast that worries not about bringing some allin and cheesy tactics. SoO is the only Zerg who is complete in every aspect of the game. Even more than Dark who is known because of his midgame or lategame play. SoO is the first and only Zerg whi has incorporated Matiz/Elazer Ravager allin successfuly in Korea pro play. He is the ultimate boss at his bottom and the most complete Zerg player at his tops. Your statement underrestimates SoO and fluffs Stats too much as Stats risen up over PvT imbalance.
It's true that Stats owes a lot of his current form to excellent PvT. But his PvZ is also more than capable. In recent times, he's beaten ByuL, Nerchio, Rogue, and Dark offline, and I'd still argue that the matchup is Protoss-favored on top of that. PvZ is not his best matchup, sure, but that says more about how good he is against Terran than anything else.
In recent times, soO has lost to Zest and Dear, and his only strong result was beating sOs (who is not on the level of Stats). I'd agree that soO plays a more cheesy game than say Dark, but to me that signals his lack of faith in his own lategame. Dark tries to take it to lategame because he is supremely confident in his macro and knows that very few people can match him as games go long. soO can't say the same about himself, so he cheeses.
It boils down to this: soO is a great player with a lot of heart whom I really hope will win. Stats is a greater player and the favorite whom I expect to win.
Even if I'm Polish...Stats was struggling vs Nerchio and won only because of how balance works in the matchup and Nerchio is not even close soO level of mechanics. I love Nerchio, he's the best foreign Zerg but soO is another level. But you're right. If something wins in this finals it won't be skill as Stats and sOO both has plenty of it, but balance shit. Protoss is favored vs Zerg and soO must surpass himself to beat Stats who abuses this very well. Same as Stats overcame Terrans when TvP was definitely Terran favored.
P.s. Didn't u concider that soO lost to Zest and other Protoss recently because of the prefinals midgames? It would be stupid to reveal his hand to Stats who definitely watch every soO's vod before the most importalnt finals in his career, right? I think it could be a thing.
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Man, I really want soO to win. I have to imagine he is bordering on insanity with his practice lately. Tomorrow is possibly going to be the most memorable day of his life.
Even if I'm Polish...Stats was struggling vs Nerchio and won only because of how balance works in the matchup and Nerchio is not even close soO level of mechanics. I love Nerchio, he's the best foreign Zerg but soO is another level. But you're right. If something wins in this finals it won't be skill as Stats and sOO both has plenty of it, but balance shit. Protoss is favored vs Zerg and soO must surpass himself to beat Stats who abuses this very well. Same as Stats overcame Terrans when TvP was definitely Terran favored.
P.s. Didn't u concider that soO lost to Zest and other Protoss recently because of the prefinals midgames? It would be stupid to reveal his hand to Stats who definitely watch every soO's vod before the most importalnt finals in his career, right? I think it could be a thing.
I did consider whether soO would be hiding builds, like he did in March's Shoutcraft Kings with a trolly mass-bane build (think it was against Zest again but not sure).
But it is very unlikely he was hiding strats.The losses I'm referring to are soO vs Zest in SSL Qualifiers and soO vs Dear in VSL Qualifiers. Neither of the qualifers were broadcasted, so there was no reason for soO to hide strats in games Stats can't watch. This was also before the semifinals actually so soO would have been preparing for sOs, but same difference since it's ZvP either way.
Whoever wins the bet can choose the signature for the other guy. Atm you have none. The time span is like 2 weeks in most cases, but it really depends. Some idiots did one year sigbets before. It's just silly fun at the end of the day.
Whoever wins the bet can choose the signature for the other guy. Atm you have none. The time span is like 2 weeks in most cases, but it really depends. Some idiots did one year sigbets before. It's just silly fun at the end of the day.
Sure. You said soO so I assume I'm betting Stats.
I will be happier if I lose the bet, so it's a win-win!