On March 26 2017 18:53 graNite wrote:
Why would they remaster it before Warcraft 4?
Why would they remaster it before Warcraft 4?
lol War4 wouldnt even last 2 years
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lastride
2390 Posts
On March 26 2017 18:53 graNite wrote: Why would they remaster it before Warcraft 4? lol War4 wouldnt even last 2 years | ||
Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
On March 27 2017 02:32 BronzeKnee wrote: Well if they are going to remaster the Tal'darim, they should fix their plot role too, because it doesn't make any sense. The Tal'darim work for Amon and have all the artifacts. Raynor is trying the artifacts from the Tal'darim and give them to the Moebius Corp in WOL... but the Moebius Corp is works to Amon too... so why doesn't Amon just ask for the artifacts from the Tal'darim, who are coincidentally the guardians of Dr. Narud in HOTS? I fully support this effort. Starcraft 2 should make sense. I suspect this sort of large-scale plot rewriting would primarily serve the interests of Lucas-esque auteurs obsessed with the purity of their most enduring creations (Han shoots first etc.) Metzen doesn't care about 'minor' plotholes which nevertheless conspire to destroy the integrity of the story line, that's way below his radar. Blizzard would certainly never allocate any resources for this purpose, they are a bit like Marvel who have to create heroes and villains that can shoulder franchises and weighty projects like Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm that depend on players being enthralled by the Blizzard expanded universe. To pick an example which is a bit petty, but which I care about: I interpret Kerrigan as a villain whereas I know that Blizzard markets her as a cool anti-hero always on the verge of being completely whitewashed; yet I know my interpretation is possible because of Blizzard's sloppy writing. Because I'm invested in disliking her it'd seem to me a fraudulent action for Metzen to go back in time and "clarify" ambiguous actions. And actually, I can think of at least two literary examples where a rewritten story line by a mature author turned out to be not unequivocally good: Goethe's Faust and Tolkien's The Hobbit. The latter was rewritten to fit into his expanded universe and lost the tone and pacing which fitted a child adventure story, while the former was hugely expanded and turned into a bizarre allegory which no one understands. Any creative effort by people over 30 should be distrusted imo. Of course I completely agree with your idea in theory. | ||
ShambhalaWar
United States930 Posts
On March 26 2017 20:44 saalih416 wrote: SC2 was nothing more than a money grab forced-trilogy-regardless-of-unit-balance, and a mashup of unit abilities from broodwar, warcraft, red alert and rip-offs of sci fi characters like the Corruptor/Matrix Squiddy, Infestor/Starhip Troopers Brain Slug, etc. Just convert to BW and experience a real RTS. User was warned for this post User was banned for this post. I think WOL was a great game, and I really enjoyed the campaign but story suffered so much in parts 2 and 3. BW had an amazing storyline, I wish sc2 had continued with the same storytelling that WOL had. That being said, I'm looking forward to the bw remaster and any effort put into either of these games | ||
KiWiKaKi
Canada691 Posts
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Linkinparktoss
16 Posts
On March 26 2017 20:44 saalih416 wrote: SC2 was nothing more than a money grab forced-trilogy-regardless-of-unit-balance, and a mashup of unit abilities from broodwar, warcraft, red alert and rip-offs of sci fi characters like the Corruptor/Matrix Squiddy, Infestor/Starhip Troopers Brain Slug, etc. Just convert to BW and experience a real RTS. User was warned for this post User was banned for this post. Ah thats why we have a SSL with 3/3/4 split up of the races, because balance is shit? We never have seen such a variety of builds before like we have at the moment in sc2. So balancing can not be that bad, and it was never since Hots, even last year with tankyvacs we still got a zerg in the finals and protosss where able to win games. Just because you are not, because you are not good at the game it does not mean its an balance issue. Also reusing well working abilities from there own games isnt a crime. Aspecially not from the same series. | ||
Linkinparktoss
16 Posts
On March 27 2017 02:22 Shinokuki wrote: Show nested quote + On March 27 2017 01:07 lechatnoir wrote: Have the haters even seen how much stuff is happening in korea atm? Daed gaem my arse. The WoL however, yeah, the campaign feels very dated already... might use a UI patch. and 6 k viewers for GSL?! while jaedong alone getting that viewership alone. You have no idea how dead sc2 is in korea. It's basically on lifeline from blizzard User was temp banned for this post. 6k? It got more viewers then CS GO yesterday on twitch. For an RTS thats pretty damn good. SC2 is still the most watched RTS out there with miles of distance infront of the next one. calling it dead is pointless. ANd the prizepool this year is the highest since 2013. I mean TY gathered more Prize money in 3 Months then any other sc2 player got in a whole year. So pls dont be so mad that you are old now and we arent in 2001 one anymore. Shooters and mobas are the famous games now, but this doesnt mean that Sc2 is dead. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
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FvRGg
68 Posts
Grow up, everybody else did a long time ago. User was warned for this post | ||
InfCereal
Canada1740 Posts
On March 27 2017 12:15 FvRGg wrote: What a shit show, I struggle to feel attached to this community after 12 years of following brood war and sc2. Grow up, everybody else did a long time ago. You haven't been on the BW subforum lately then. If you mention SC2 there, everyone starts frothing at the mouth. It's something. | ||
Yiome
China1687 Posts
On March 27 2017 18:55 InfCereal wrote: Show nested quote + On March 27 2017 12:15 FvRGg wrote: What a shit show, I struggle to feel attached to this community after 12 years of following brood war and sc2. Grow up, everybody else did a long time ago. You haven't been on the BW subforum lately then. If you mention SC2 there, everyone starts frothing at the mouth. It's something. I used to believe that a community for an old game should be relatively mature and reasonable... Thanks a lot for certain part of BW community to teach me the reality :/ On March 27 2017 11:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote: i had fun with the WoL and HotS campaigns. However, I'd rather see Blizz commit resources to other things for SC2 and Brood War Remastered. Yeah I can see that most of the campaign designers and devs are probably on CO-OP right now and honestly I cannot argue with that. Understandable but still some rework on campaign would be nice. I don't mind if it is a slow process but I hope it is something they are considering. Agreeing with something the Chinese caster Xiaose said during his stream, just as BW:R may stabilize and revitalize bw in Korea, I hope Blizzard can consider a War 3 remaster or at least a major update for modern system + Bnet support before the scene dies away (particular in China). | ||
Bastinian
Serbia177 Posts
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Garmer
1286 Posts
Starcraft 2's biggest mistake was naming itself after the greatest of all: Starcraft: Brood War your suggestion doesn't make sense, sc2 is a finished game there is no point in adding stuff like that anymore, they should only focus on making the balance better | ||
Penev
28345 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Can't we just get along? == Also, I'd rather they rewrite the terrible story instead. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8759 Posts
On March 27 2017 22:18 Bastinian wrote: Starcraft 2 needs good patch to rework performance stuff, because game runs so bad and I have PC that should run game on ultra considering SC2 default requirements... I don't know, sc2 right now can run on a comodore 64 and as someone who can't play any other game that came out after 2011 on my pc I am not sure I want them to touch the performance. | ||
Meta
United States6225 Posts
I might add that I would love it if the WoL and HotS storylines were completely revamped. Kerrigan should have never been "saved" and Jim Raynor probably should have died at the end of HotS. Just my two cents. Maybe it's just that Game of Thrones has ruined all fiction for me :D | ||
Nakajin
Canada8759 Posts
On March 28 2017 08:17 Meta wrote: I thought this was a light-hearted and amusing post, but the torrent of shitposting that followed was just sad. SC2 and BW are both fantastic games at the top of their genre. If certain people prefer one over the other that's their prerogative. I might add that I would love it if the WoL and HotS storylines were completely revamped. Kerrigan should have never been "saved" and Jim Raynor probably should have died at the end of HotS. Just my two cents. Maybe it's just that Game of Thrones has ruined all fiction for me :D Kerrigan should have became a giant space squid | ||
ZenithM
France15952 Posts
The High Templar's cape moves in a blocky and very unnatural way Come on guys... | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On March 27 2017 20:10 Yiome wrote: Show nested quote + On March 27 2017 18:55 InfCereal wrote: On March 27 2017 12:15 FvRGg wrote: What a shit show, I struggle to feel attached to this community after 12 years of following brood war and sc2. Grow up, everybody else did a long time ago. You haven't been on the BW subforum lately then. If you mention SC2 there, everyone starts frothing at the mouth. It's something. I used to believe that a community for an old game should be relatively mature and reasonable... Thanks a lot for certain part of BW community to teach me the reality :/ Show nested quote + On March 27 2017 11:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote: i had fun with the WoL and HotS campaigns. However, I'd rather see Blizz commit resources to other things for SC2 and Brood War Remastered. Yeah I can see that most of the campaign designers and devs are probably on CO-OP right now and honestly I cannot argue with that. Understandable but still some rework on campaign would be nice. I don't mind if it is a slow process but I hope it is something they are considering. Agreeing with something the Chinese caster Xiaose said during his stream, just as BW:R may stabilize and revitalize bw in Korea, I hope Blizzard can consider a War 3 remaster or at least a major update for modern system + Bnet support before the scene dies away (particular in China). Im not sure what the wc2 community is like nowadays but I read their forums a bunch of years ago and it was fairly hostile looking. In general it's something I've observed as communities shrink. (Another example would be the poker community tho not to the same extent) Maybe just that in a smaller # of people the angry ones stand out more. | ||
Cyro
United Kingdom20154 Posts
On March 27 2017 22:18 Bastinian wrote: Starcraft 2 needs good patch to rework performance stuff, because game runs so bad and I have PC that should run game on ultra considering SC2 default requirements... SC2 is graphically light, especially on non-max settings which can run on a potato so the GPU side is not a problem at all. It runs relatively badly due of the CPU demand which is high (because of the amount of work done for simulation) and poorly scaling (because that work is on 1 thread) --- You do have an fx8320 if twitch profile is accurate, they have terrible singlethreaded performance so you could see massive performs gains swapping to anything current gen Intel or to an AMD Ryzen CPU. That would require a new motherboard and RAM but even a $64 Pentium G4560 for a CPU could see >50% performance gains | ||
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