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Source: InvenGlobal
iloveoov gave a fantastic interview to Inven a few days ago that was recently translated by InvenGlobal. The interview was generally about transferring his StarCraft experience to being a League of Legends head coach, and in the process he told some great anecdotes about players like Boxer, Bisu, and Savior, as well as revealing a lot of the bombastic personality that made him a controversial player during his playing days.
Some excerpts:
"When Yohwan “SlayerS_’BoxeR’” Lim was practicing 8 barracks bunkering against Jinho “YellOw” Hong, he came up with all the circumstances he might face; when bunkering fails, when a marine gets killed by a drone or a zergling, when the direction is set upward or downward, when the building is not constructed and he needs to retreat, or when a marine kites and kills a zergling. That is how he was able to cope with any situation."
"Back when I was still a pro gamer, my match results against Jaeyoon “sAviOr” Ma weren’t so good all the time. It felt like whatever I did, he knew what I was trying to do and was prepared to counter it.
Then there was one time I won against sAviOr in a Chinese tournament with a perfect 2:0 score before my retirement. At the match, I thought, ‘Fine, you have been better than me so far. You really are great. That’s why I’m not going to care this time, and just do whatever I feel like doing.’ Then, I won a complete victory."
It's a really great read, and I really recommend checking it out.
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United States32493 Posts
bump cuz you guys srsly need to see this
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Wow, Boxer's attention to detail and preparing contingencies for every scenario is borderline obsessive lol, I guess that's what made him one of the best at the time. Or just passion for the game. I always just saw him as a 3x bunker rush cheeser
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On March 30 2017 07:41 riotjune wrote:Wow, Boxer's attention to detail and preparing contingencies for every scenario is borderline obsessive lol, I guess that's what made him one of the best at the time. Or just passion for the game. I always just saw him as a 3x bunker rush cheeser I always thought that Koreans were going to team house in order to do specific build order and practice in different situation. He was maybe one of the first to do it but I'm sure Korean pro gamers are now doing the same thing (practicing scenario)
Nice interview!
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Can someone explain this 6 scrim limit vs. the 8 he wants for his team?
Are teams like forced to play no more than a max amount of games as part of their practice regimen or something?
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United States32493 Posts
sup I moved this to SC2 general because BW people can't appreciate an amazing interview with one of the top 5 greatest players of all time
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France12466 Posts
Very interesting read indeed! I mostly appreciated the BW pros anecdotes but since I know LoL scene a bit this part was also interesting. Playing overnight is probably a bad mid/long term solution tho
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On March 30 2017 12:11 Jealous wrote: Can someone explain this 6 scrim limit vs. the 8 he wants for his team?
Are teams like forced to play no more than a max amount of games as part of their practice regimen or something?
I'm also interested. Is there a routine environment between the team to do scrims between team? (Which would explain why mote people in the team could allow for more skrims)
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On March 30 2017 07:41 riotjune wrote: I always just saw him as a 3x bunker rush cheeser
Well now you know he worked hard to become that cheeser :D
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On March 30 2017 19:00 Waxangel wrote: sup I moved this to SC2 general because BW people can't appreciate an amazing interview with one of the top 5 greatest players of all time Cmon brah oov is at least top 3 all time.
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“Spirit has been a pro for almost 4 years. There are many members who are the same age as him on our team. That’s why they feel it’s hard to be straightforward when he makes any mistakes. They are being considerate because they know he has his own knowledge and they respect him. But that doesn’t help with team communication. You need to be straightforward in order to win.
This is interesting. I don't know much about the lol-scene but how are the korean teams doing there? And like. Are there top teams with one or two older players?
Was a bit difficult to follow some names and examples he brought up but nice to hear him speak of his Broodwar days, how this knowledge is implemented on his work in lol.
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Saw it on reddit and read it then, some crazy stuff. That guy is hardcore.
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When Youngho “FlaSh” Lee was in his golden age, some players clapped their hands for his play, and I sent them back home. They were not supposed to be impressed, but become upset; they should want to surpass what they see with anger and thoughts of ‘I can achieve more.’
I really wonder how iloveoov can be a successful coach in a team esport (LoL) if he promotes such attitude. I would consider cheering for teammates to be something necessary if you want to build proper chemistry in a team. Even in a 1v1 game like BW or SC2 it makes sense - these are human beings who live together in a team house, why make them internalize competition with each other on every step of their lives?
It doesn't mean inferior players are not supposed to look up to the aces, but hey, can antagonizing players really be the most efficient way of getting results? Or maybe it works in the Korean culture, but not necessarily in the West?
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heartbreaking this is for LoL though miss the bw scene
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On March 30 2017 21:40 corydoras wrote:Show nested quote +When Youngho “FlaSh” Lee was in his golden age, some players clapped their hands for his play, and I sent them back home. They were not supposed to be impressed, but become upset; they should want to surpass what they see with anger and thoughts of ‘I can achieve more.’ I really wonder how iloveoov can be a successful coach in a team esport (LoL) if he promotes such attitude. I would consider cheering for teammates to be something necessary if you want to build proper chemistry in a team. Even in a 1v1 game like BW or SC2 it makes sense - these are human beings who live together in a team house, why make them internalize competition with each other on every step of their lives? It doesn't mean inferior players are not supposed to look up to the aces, but hey, can antagonizing players really be the most efficient way of getting results? Or maybe it works in the Korean culture, but not necessarily in the West? Oov never coached FlaSh's teammates, he coached the rival team.
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I wonder why he didn't become the SKT1 coach instead.
Also the scrim limit's odd, if anyone has an answer I'd be happy to hear it.
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On March 30 2017 22:51 intotheheart wrote: I wonder why he didn't become the SKT1 coach instead.
Also the scrim limit's odd, if anyone has an answer I'd be happy to hear it. SKT T1 already got the best coach so no room for him, better try to beat them in another team, grabbing one of the best SKT players as well (MaRin)
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This is quite a hard read when you dont know a single thing about lol Also is there a vod somewhere of the match against savior he is talking about ?
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What's with the scrim limit? I have no understanding of LoL
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Probably because an average bw game is under 20 min, while an average lol game is closer to like 40 min. On top of that, the champion pick and ban phase before the game is at least 5 minutes, and matchmaking search time is usually long at high levels (not sure how much random matchmaking they use). Then, discussing things post-game takes longer because theres that many more people in lol.
If you take all that into account, its no wonder you can play only a low number of games per day in lol, compared to bw.
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