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One of the main goals of Legacy of the Void was to make SC2 more fun to watch and lots of features,like the less amount of minerals per base, the increase of harass and micro, were introduced to support this design choice. So, after 3 GSL, 2 SSL, one Blizzcon and countless other korean and foreign tournaments, I think that it's time to compare Legacy of the Void and Hearth of the Swarm in terms of entertainment. Is LotV more fun to watch than HotS? I've personally watched a ton of Starcraft 2 in the last days, between WCS qualifiers and GSL super Tournament, and my answer is a decise NO. I'm probably one of the few players to think that way, but I prefer to watch deathballs and fights between armies instead of few harass units killing mineral lines. Curious to hear your opion about it. Here is the pool
Poll: Is LotV more fun to watch than HotS?Yes (478) 58% No (350) 42% 828 total votes Your vote: Is LotV more fun to watch than HotS? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No
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Before LotV everyone complained about nothing happening all game long with one big fight at the end which decided the winner. Now in LotV we have more smaller fights all the time and people still complain. Surely most of those attacks concentrate on killing economy but thats just what is most effective. You dont want to fight army if you dont have to. The question is whether the defender does his job properly or if the attacker has a too big advantage with some unit compositions.
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More fun to watch and play than hots.
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The start of HotS was more fun to watch than the start of LotV, imo. But with some time having passed LotV is infinitely more fun to watch than HotS after 1+ year.
That being said, I LotV still leaves a bad taste in my mouth, which i detailed a bit in the other thread about LotV mechanics.
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The important question should be:
Is it more fun to play than hots ?
I think both games have their up- and downsides, but LotV is doing some basic things very wrong at the moment and i'm convinced that it could be a much better game than it already is.
LotV is missing out a lot of potential, but maybe with a new multiplayer director, things will change !?
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On April 09 2017 23:25 Yrr wrote: Before LotV everyone complained about nothing happening all game long with one big fight at the end which decided the winner. Now in LotV we have more smaller fights all the time and people still complain. Surely most of those attacks concentrate on killing economy but thats just what is most effective. You dont want to fight army if you dont have to. The question is whether the defender does his job properly or if the attacker has a too big advantage with some unit compositions. Of course people still complain. Starcraft 2 has issues at its core that people have wanted addressed since 2009/2010.
LotV's skirmishes are great, but units like the Liberator and Adept just emphasize fundamental flaws in the game's design.
On a side note, it is the consumer's job to complain about the product so that the consumer can get the best version of that product.
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+ don't take a poll like this too seriously, unhappy people always do more noise.
Hots was just a wol ++ , cad slow with lack of skillcap.
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Big yes. The deathball style of old SC2 got old to me, real old. I think I prefer playing HotS though, at least in most matchups.
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On April 09 2017 23:37 DieuCure wrote: + don't take a poll like this too seriously, unhappy people always do more noise.
Hots was just a wol ++ , cad slow with lack of skillcap.
I don't think so,cause most part of unhappy people aren't playing the game anymore. Playerbase numbers are the first indicator of how the players are reacting to the product
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economy and game flow is better to watch in theory, but design elements have heavily incentivized taking quick advantages and then winning with a low tech followup timing, and also ladder maps have still not been successfully designed to take advantage of lotv economy. but that's also because of the harassment meta - when harassment is king 4th bases are either turtly or very very difficult to take. this is why pvt tvp sucks
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It's definitely more fun to play and I really enjoy watching it more than ever. All the new units make for much more frantic games with small skirmishes all over the place.
The dead game meme wouldn't bother me too much, but when I see that a GSL gets like 8000 views, with the best players duking it out and the best casters casting, I can kind of see their point.
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The original SC2 is better than both legacy and HotS combined, in my opinion.
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its more fun than games with swarm host
WoL was best until BLfestor was everywhere
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I think it is better than hots, but it doesnt mean it is in a good state Wol was still better imo
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Depends on matchup and meta I think.
Overall, to watch, sure. The lack of 2 hour swarm host siege tank games helps
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I prefered WoL the most, might be nostalgia though.
I remember always being hyped for tournaments like MLG, GSL, IPL etc. Always staying up all night to watch the games.
These days I don't really care anymore, and I barely have any fun playing LoTV(mostly due how dumb ZvZ is these days though).
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10x more enjoyable for me.
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I bet that "NO" voters never played this game srsly
LotV indeed much better both to play and watch in comparison to WoL/Hots
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