Korea Weekly - April 30 - SSL Showdown & GSL Continues
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Elentos
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Hope he can somehow still get the grand final seed ;; | ||
Elentos
55454 Posts
On May 01 2017 03:25 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: I fear for ByuL. Sitting pretty at the top now, but unlike everyone else, he banked the hardest opponents for the end. Pretty much the 3 best vZ players in Korea are up next. Hope he can somehow still get the grand final seed ;; Look on the bright side. If he doesn't stay in first, we won't know who takes 2nd place until it's time. | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8749 Posts
I mean everyone puts TY on the top terran list, but other than winning Katowice, whats he done to be so great when him and Maru have similar performances right now | ||
starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
On May 01 2017 06:50 Fango wrote: How come Maru always gets talked down on in these. He killed Dark soO and Solar earlier in Race Wars but he still gets put in the same boat as Zest? His only big losses in SSL are to the hardest players in it (inno and stats). I mean everyone puts TY on the top terran list, but other than winning Katowice, whats he done to be so great when him and Maru have similar performances right now He hasn't won anything since 2015 but yeah he is not nearly as bad as Zest right now | ||
Elentos
55454 Posts
On May 01 2017 06:50 Fango wrote: How come Maru always gets talked down on in these. He killed Dark soO and Solar earlier in Race Wars but he still gets put in the same boat as Zest? His only big losses in SSL are to the hardest players in it (inno and stats). It's an article about SSL Premier. Where he's 2 wins, 4 losses, negative 3 in maps, and down in 8th place. He doesn't deserve much better. And the article acknowledges that he's not doing as poorly as Zest (which realistically, only sOs is). | ||
The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Especially now that there is no weekly proleague going on, you have to motivate yourself through other means. | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On May 01 2017 07:00 Elentos wrote: It's an article about SSL Premier. Where he's 2 wins, 4 losses, negative 3 in maps, and down in 8th place. He doesn't deserve much better. And the article acknowledges that he's not doing as poorly as Zest (which realistically, only sOs is). Comments were also made about Maru's general form: Maru, albeit not as poor at the moment, is a shadow of his former self as well. Which I'd agree with Fango aren't fair. Maru has maintained top-tier stats so far in 2017. As far as results go, he made a ro8 in the GSL last season and almost won WESG where he didn't drop a map until he hit TY. With regards purely to SSL, you also have to factor in who he's lost to so far: Bogus, aLive, Stats, and Dark. All losses that carry no shame. He could easily go 3-0 from here, putting him at 5-4 for the season. Zest, on the other hand, is likely going to go 0-3 and finish the season 1-8. He has gone out in the ro32 in both seasons of GSL as well and hasn't made a dent anywhere else. I'd say Maru deserves quite a bit better. | ||
Argonauta
Spain4685 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
Of the Four Horsemen, INnoVation has the form and TY has the results. But what exactly have Maru/ByuN accomplished recently? | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On May 01 2017 08:47 Argonauta wrote: I love this new SSL format, where the perfomance over time is evaluated rather than the one time peak of the GSL. This gives players more chances to shine and not get caught by one time build or having to play day after patch. I agree. I love this format. Wish gsl would make a change as well. Not necessarily to this format, but rather adopt the OSL's way of doing the ro16 to keep it distinct but also more suspenseful. | ||
starkiller123
United States4029 Posts
On May 01 2017 11:12 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: I agree. I love this format. Wish gsl would make a change as well. Not necessarily to this format, but rather adopt the OSL's way of doing the ro16 to keep it distinct but also more suspenseful. What is the difference? | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
In the OSL they'd play 1 match from each ro16 group a day rather than going through an entire group in one sitting. It's also round robin. | ||
Elentos
55454 Posts
On May 01 2017 09:24 pvsnp wrote: Maru isn't slumping nearly as hard as Zest, true, but claiming he's a top Terran right now doesn't have a ton of justification. With his current form, aLive has a better claim to that status than Maru. Of the Four Horsemen, INnoVation has the form and TY has the results. But what exactly have Maru/ByuN accomplished recently? The 'Four Horsemen' thing has been BS from the very start. At least one of them is always getting outperformed by Ryung/GuMiho/aLive in terms of tournament results. | ||
The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On May 01 2017 17:09 Elentos wrote: The 'Four Horsemen' thing has been BS from the very start. At least one of them is always getting outperformed by Ryung/GuMiho/aLive in terms of tournament results. Well the thing with narratives like that is that it doesn't hold up 100% all the time. These four are hyped that much because they all showed a very high lvl of gameplay at a specific time and they are big fan favorites in general. You are right though, in terms of pure results it might be wrong to give them a special title. But that's only part of it | ||
Olli
Austria24413 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8749 Posts
On May 01 2017 19:14 Olli wrote: I don't think it's wrong to call Maru a shadow of his former self. The guy used to be referred to as "the fourth race" in Korea, someone who did things other Terrans simply couldn't. When Protoss was dominating PvT, he beat every Protoss. He was the only one to consistently beat Zest at his peak, and he challenged Life at his (late 2014, early 2015) as well. He won SSL when the level of play in Korea was, in my book, absurdly high, with a lot of players close to their very best. Now Maru is nowhere near that. He's still at that tier where he could beat anyone, just because he isn't the best player in Korea anymore doesn't mean he's doing bad. It just seems strange to praise guys like TY so much and put Maru in the "Zest group of slumpers". Maru was pretty much equal with TY at WESG in terms of performance. Both choked out of gsl ro8, both carried their team in race wars etc. Maru did better at the super tournament. The only big negative for Maru is his SSL results, but even then he's already played all the hardest opponents (inno stats dark alive). He only has the easier guys left to play | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8749 Posts
On May 01 2017 09:24 pvsnp wrote: Maru isn't slumping nearly as hard as Zest, true, but claiming he's a top Terran right now doesn't have a ton of justification. With his current form, aLive has a better claim to that status than Maru. Of the Four Horsemen, INnoVation has the form and TY has the results. But what exactly have Maru/ByuN accomplished recently? I think that's more of them being the biggest winners. And the big names in terms of terran The only one that's really questionable is byuN. He hasn't put out any great performances this year whereas the others have. Maru, TY, aLive, Inno would be more appropriate. | ||
Argonauta
Spain4685 Posts
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