As a side note, I agree with ranking INno and Rogue over Stats based on their current form and momentum regardless of what happened 3+ months ago. Same reason I don't think it's sacrilege to rank Neeb over Gumiho despite the GSL victory.
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Kitai
United States824 Posts
As a side note, I agree with ranking INno and Rogue over Stats based on their current form and momentum regardless of what happened 3+ months ago. Same reason I don't think it's sacrilege to rank Neeb over Gumiho despite the GSL victory. | ||
Cricketer12
United States13800 Posts
On October 21 2017 08:04 Kitai wrote: I think soO winning blizzcon just before retirement would be the best story possible. As a side note, I agree with ranking INno and Rogue over Stats based on their current form and momentum regardless of what happened 3+ months ago. Same reason I don't think it's sacrilege to rank Neeb over Gumiho despite the GSL victory. All 3 have won a korean tournament within the last month. But I find Dark the strongest opponent of the three, so I disagree with the current form argument. | ||
KR_4EVR
316 Posts
Rank #0: sOs! JK. On how to rank (not ranking placement at blizzcon but chance of winning blizzcon: Start with the best all-round players of different races: Stats, Dark, Inno = Places 1-3 (no order implied) Ask yourself who is capable of beating 2/3 of these on a given day in a best of 5: Rogue, soO, TY, herO = Places 4-7 (no order implied) Ask yourself who is capable of beating 2/3 of the second tier on any given day in a best of 5: Neeb, Gumiho, Serral, Elazer = Places 8-11 (no order implied) Everyone else could get far but realistically has <0.1 % chance of winning in first place. Notice that I'm not ranking according to predicted finishing place, but on who has what probability to win. Now, I can calculate probabilities: Probability that the winner comes from Tier 1: 60.0% Probability that the winner comes from Tier 2: 26.7% Probability that the winner comes from Tier 3: 13.3% Probability that one of {Snute, SpeCiaL, Kelhazur, TRUE, Nerchio} wins: < 0.1% These are number figures on which I would confidently bet if I were a gambler. How to interpret: Example: Tier 2. Probability that TY wins plus probability that herO wins plus probability that soO wins plus probability that Rogue wins ~20% total. | ||
pvsnp
7676 Posts
On October 21 2017 08:39 Cricketer12 wrote: All 3 have won a korean tournament within the last month. But I find Dark the strongest opponent of the three, so I disagree with the current form argument. Inno defeated Dark in a Bo7 a week before Stats did....... With the exact same score as Stats, too. Inno also got to the semis of the Super Tournament while Stats dropped out in the Ro16 (and Rogue won). So as far as current form goes, we have Stats winning SSL and Ro16 in ST, Rogue Ro8 in GSL and winning ST, and Inno winning GSL and Ro4 ST. Even if you think Rogue is overhyped, Inno > Stats for sure. I would say Inno > Rogue > Stats, but Rogue > Inno > Stats works too. I wouldn't object to Dark > Stats either, since he got GSL Ro4, SSL finals, and ST Ro4 (and brought every series to the decider). | ||
zealotstim
United States455 Posts
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
Far more players retire in quiet though, with a few tweeted words in hangul being the only thing to mark their passing. This is a good line but reads a bit awkward. I would write it as: Far more players retire in quiet, with the only thing to mark their passing are a few tweeted words in hangul. Or as: Far more players retire in quiet, with only a few tweeted words in Hangul to mark their passing. Of course, writing is subjective, but I find it easier to captivate the audience when fewer words are used. Otherwise, good read. 7.5/10 | ||
Boggyb
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yoshi245
United States2965 Posts
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franzji
United States580 Posts
On October 21 2017 03:05 DieuCure wrote: Players on momentum are more likely to win tournaments than constant players I really disagree with this, lol. It's easy to say after the fact that "wow ____ is really good right now" but tons of players pull out big wins and then proceed to fall back into doing nothing noteworthy. | ||
NyuBPrime
22 Posts
On October 21 2017 15:00 youngjiddle wrote: I really disagree with this, lol. It's easy to say after the fact that "wow ____ is really good right now" but tons of players pull out big wins and then proceed to fall back into doing nothing noteworthy. But they won a tournament in the process, maybe beating more constant players | ||
DBooN
Germany2701 Posts
On October 21 2017 08:04 Kitai wrote: I think soO winning blizzcon just before retirement would be the best story possible. I'd prefer soO winning Blizzcon, not retiring and becoming the soOjwa we were promised! | ||
Isarios
United States153 Posts
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Elentos
55454 Posts
On October 21 2017 12:01 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: This is a good line but reads a bit awkward. I would write it as: That's not even English | ||
engesser1
264 Posts
soO has suffered like no other... Chasing Eden Wow, that's probably too much. An article for a drama magazine? | ||
igay
Australia1178 Posts
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Kerdinand
Germany113 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8749 Posts
On October 21 2017 12:22 Boggyb wrote: I feel like the players who've been playing SC2 for years without nearly the success of soO have suffered a lot more than he has. They may have suffered more, but soO's is a different kind of suffering On October 21 2017 15:00 youngjiddle wrote: I really disagree with this, lol. It's easy to say after the fact that "wow ____ is really good right now" but tons of players pull out big wins and then proceed to fall back into doing nothing noteworthy. Blizzcon can easily be that big win though. Whoever wins could be irrelevent next year. You can bet on consistant players winning more overall in their careers, but when looking at a specific event it's all about who shows up on the day soO is a perfect example of consistancy not actually winning a tournament haha. | ||
SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
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Jonas :)
United States511 Posts
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Topin
Peru9933 Posts
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