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United States32419 Posts
On January 24 2018 01:03 Charoisaur wrote: Stuchiu is back. I'm confused, why is Mvp mentioned only so few times in this article?
also, I could use some clarification on the state of his nervous system and its injuries
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There are two players that I would like to win some tournaments. Just for their own sake. Dark is one of them, soO is the other. There are a lot of players that I want to see do well, but only two that I want to win. Looking at Dark's face after losing is reminiscent of seeing a widow go home after her husband's funeral. There is pain in his losses. He sometimes covers it with a smile, but he can't really hide it. The fact that Dark has been very open with his ambitions and feelings has probably had a major impact on my feelings. Communication is key. soO's essay would have turned me if I wasn't already in his 'GSL victory for soO'-camp.
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Agree with Drfilip. Revive BL-infestor pls, for story's sake
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The number of 2nd places and ro4 finishes Dark has acquired is pretty incredible. People would talk about it more if soO's record of almost successes wasn't so much cleaner. And even this season Dark feels like one of the best but not the best.
Good article.
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On January 24 2018 00:52 StarscreamG1 wrote: I want a Dark Vs TY best of 99.
Dark would win almost every map.
Not sure I agree with saying Inno was a better lategame player that Dark during GSL. It felt like he won that series was because Dark did not expect mech or prepare for it. His response was very sloppy to it, like he wasn't sure how to engage
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On January 24 2018 04:09 Fango wrote:Dark would win almost every map
And it would only last as long as a Bo9 between Snute and TY.
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On January 24 2018 04:09 Fango wrote:Dark would win almost every map. Not sure I agree with saying Inno was a better lategame player that Dark during GSL. It felt like he won that series was because Dark did not expect mech or prepare for it. His response was very sloppy to it, like he wasn't sure how to engage Inno said himself in the winner's interview that Dark wasn't weak to cheese (and Dark proved several times over that the exact opposite was true) but he still kept cheesing because he needed to keep Dark off-balance. It's the same reason why he tailored a brand-new mech build (double starport banshee) instead of playing standard like TY.
Dark roflstomped TY when both of them played standard, so Inno did his homework and played several completely unorthodox builds to catch Dark off guard and keep him that way. Dark even said himself in the pregame interview that Inno was strong but predictable, and Inno exploited Dark's perception of him.
Inno and Dark are very evenly matched. Just watch their series at IEM Gyeonggi, or the one from IEM Katowice, or from SSL. As Tastosis said during the broadcast, Inno was just barely able to tip the balance in his favor at the critical moments.
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Stuchiu is back!
That's some great news, I was a big fan of his articles back in the day.
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Great article. Really hoping Dark can achieve some major success this year.
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Really refreshing to read something from other than Mizenhauer (not that his writeups are bad at all).
Also the one who shall not be named in the first line O.o
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Go Dark! this year, he will win at least 1 title for sure. i say 2 !
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if 1 of the 10 isnt a homestory cup I refuse to acknowledge him
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Awww yeah. Classic Stuchiu article.
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So here comes the question: Who had won 10 premier tournaments champions? I checked top 20 of http://aligulac.com/earnings/ , seems that there're 2. One is Life (10), the other is Taeja (11). MVP and MMA has 9, Polt has 8. But they don't play anymore. INnoVation has 8, so he has the best chance to break the record.
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On January 25 2018 04:44 jy_9876543210 wrote:So here comes the question: Who had won 10 premier tournaments champions? I checked top 20 of http://aligulac.com/earnings/ , seems that there're 2. One is Life (10), the other is Taeja (11). MVP and MMA has 9, Polt has 8. But they don't play anymore. INnoVation has 8, so he has the best chance to break the record. Yes, Taeja has the most premier tournament trophies, followed by Life.
But of course, not all premier tournaments are created equal. Korean Starleagues are given more weight and GSL the most of all, which is why Mvp and Inno (who have each won 4 GSLs) are typically given the most emphasis when people talk about the GOAT.
Life won 2 GSLs and Taeja 0 GSLs, by comparison, which is why Taeja rarely comes up in GOAT discussions (but don't tell stuchiu that).
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I wasn't around during the Mvp era, but he won them in a short span compared to inno right? Maybe it's not having witnessed his reign, but I'm left feeling a bit cheated since he played during a time when there were many more titles, so if you had a hot streak you would have many more titles
Seems to be an unpopular opinion so I'm curious why I don't feel the same awe that veterans do of Mvp's play, do educate me please! Sincerely!
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really nice article! dark is still a few years younger than guys like inno, rain, stats and soO, so maybe with a little more maturity in his overall play and approach to tournaments / series' he can become the champion he aspires to be.
like inno said in his WCS signature series, he used to obsess about his career accomplishments in the past too, but now he has let go of that and just focuses on playing his best.
On January 24 2018 04:31 pvsnp wrote: Dark even said himself in the pregame interview that Inno was strong but predictable, and Inno exploited Dark's perception of him.
i think youre taking those interviews too seriously, everyone says that about inno^^ that doesnt mean that they actually just play the series with that mindset, especially as dark deflected innos aggressive plays.
Inno and Dark are very evenly matched. Just watch their series at IEM Gyeonggi, or the one from IEM Katowice, or from SSL. As Tastosis said during the broadcast, Inno was just barely able to tip the balance in his favor at the critical moments.
yes and exactly that tiny tip of the balance is all that matters at that level. thats exactly what the article says; dark is an excellent lategame player, but inno was just the critical bit better (that day).
On January 25 2018 09:34 yubo56 wrote: I wasn't around during the Mvp era, but he won them in a short span compared to inno right? Maybe it's not having witnessed his reign, but I'm left feeling a bit cheated since he played during a time when there were many more titles, so if you had a hot streak you would have many more titles
i mean yeah, there were alone 9 GSL tournaments in 2011 :D thats about the same number between innos first gsl win and his last.
Seems to be an unpopular opinion so I'm curious why I don't feel the same awe that veterans do of Mvp's play, do educate me please! Sincerely!
well, just because youre on a hot streak doesnt mean that your competition is any weaker and to be that dominant is still very impressive. especially in the BL infestor era where MVP was one of the few players who would actually beat that composition in the lategame with stunning ghost viking play. another thing is (as the article mentions) his intelligence and his reads of his opponents that allow him to for example proxy 2 rax a protoss in game 7 of a GSL finals and thus take the title.
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While i think it is nice that there are other writers than mizenhauer as well, i didn't like this article too much. Dark is an interesting player to write about but this piece imo lacks focus and rambles a lot. It surely raises some good points but doesn't really expand on them which goes somewhat against the analytical concept it tried to follow. The writing itself is also sloppy here and there (which probably gives me the feeling of it being rather rambly). I still hope to see more of stuchiu here though, i know he can do better.
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I'm just waiting for TY or soO to get a GSL win.
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this is a nice writeup
go Dark!
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