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Okay this is getting derailed into the same region lock debate as always.
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On March 29 2018 12:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Looks like Blizzard just threw some fuel on this fire
What? How can they do this? This is outrageous. It's unfair. How can foreigners be allowed to play in both tournaments without any issue but koreans not be allowed to do the same???
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On March 29 2018 16:02 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2018 15:53 Solar424 wrote: I'll never get over the mental gymnastics some people on this forum use. "Koreans are better than foreigners, so if they win than they deserve it. But when foreigners win the system is unfair, we can't have people thinking foreigners can compete with the Korean master race." You can't compare the impact of 4 foreigners playing in GSL, most of whom will lose early on, and 3/4 of the top 16 at every foreign event being Korean. One damages the lowest tiers of the scene, the other completely kills it from top to bottom. And damaging the lowest tier doesn't matter? It matters less than damaging every tier, which is what would happen if the region lock were removed.
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On March 29 2018 16:04 Charoisaur wrote:What? How can they do this? This is outrageous. It's unfair. How can foreigners be allowed to play in both tournaments without any issue but koreans not be allowed to do the same???
uhhh it's been pretty explicit in the rules since like 2016
but yes, it's very openly unfair, few people disputes that. the disagreements are about "is it worth it to protect/favor the foreign scene at the cost of such unfairness?"
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So what are the rules here, you can play in WCS if you have a visa, but if you want to play WCS and GSL you can be anything, but Korean? This is actually a hilarious/sad/genuinely-not-sure-if-this-isn't-racism turn of events.
TRUE is in literally the same fucking situation as every foreigner in Seoul at the moment, if the prolonged stay in Korea doesn't affect his visa, then this is just a clear fucking abuse of the rules.
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On March 29 2018 16:07 Solar424 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2018 16:02 Charoisaur wrote:On March 29 2018 15:53 Solar424 wrote: I'll never get over the mental gymnastics some people on this forum use. "Koreans are better than foreigners, so if they win than they deserve it. But when foreigners win the system is unfair, we can't have people thinking foreigners can compete with the Korean master race." You can't compare the impact of 4 foreigners playing in GSL, most of whom will lose early on, and 3/4 of the top 16 at every foreign event being Korean. One damages the lowest tiers of the scene, the other completely kills it from top to bottom. And damaging the lowest tier doesn't matter? It matters less than damaging every tier, which is what would happen if the region lock were removed. Not really, the high-mid tier foreigners would still be able to earn plenty of money by playing the game. The only ones forced to retire would be the low-tier players as well just like in the korean scene.
I didn't think the 2013/2014 system was good either but implementing a only-one-way regionlock is just plainly unfair.
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Alright, maybe make a separate thread about TRUE, but region lock derailment in this thread ends here.
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On March 29 2018 12:02 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2018 07:33 Shuffleblade wrote:On March 29 2018 02:27 10dla wrote: Why is it cool that foreigner take gsl spots off struggling koreans? What the hell is wrong with all of you, whats not cool with foreigners winning GSL code S spots? You all act as if the spots where won in a raffle, Sortof got first spot in his bracket defeating unknown korean, Creator and eMotion. Elazer got his spot defeating PartinG and Hurricane. Zanster went through Salvation and Ragnarok. Scarlett went through TY and Bunny to take first spot. All of the above are high level korean pros (even though PartinGs form is unknown), its not like they got through based on bracket luck. Almost no foreigner faced other foreigners, they took their spots fair and square and that is really cool to see. I hate the WCS system where koreans are locked into korea but don't blame that on the foreigners that are kicking ass. Its quite simple really, the best players should qualify, I believe that was the spirit of GSL and I also believed that was the reason you korean pro fans loved it so much. Half the fanbase cried that it was unfair when koreans went abroad and stole the money from the foreigner pros, the other half argued its fair the best players should go to the tournaments and earn the money. These korean pro fans that wanted them to be able to go any tournament is now crying that its unfair that foreigners are allowed to go to korea and win money if they are better than the koreans? Its like a bad tv show, the ultimate hypocrites. User was warned for this post What the hell is wrong with you, what's not cool with koreans winning WCS tournaments.? You all act like the trophies were won in a raffle, Duckdeok made it to the finals by beating Grubby. Jaedong did it by beating Scarlett. ............. All of the above are high level foreign pros, it's not like they got through based on bracket luck. I hate the WCS system but don't blame this on the koreans who are kicking ass. You see where this is going? If you were one of the guys who didn't like the previous system, then you are extremely hypocritical and not to be taken seriously. I want everyone to be able to compete in everything, no matter what nation is better. The best should win obviously, no hypocrite here.
What gets me is why anyone would devalue a players accomplishment just because someone else that played in the same tournament had different circumstances surrounding them. Be upset at the organizers all you want but its but its not the players fault.
You all seem really sure the foreigners will get wrecked straight away, lets just say I'm not so sure about that. This was interesting brackets and it will be even more interesting to see where it goes from here.
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I'm in Seoul and want to catch the games on 2nd May. Where in Seoul do I need to go to watch the games live?
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On May 01 2018 16:42 610 wrote: I'm in Seoul and want to catch the games on 2nd May. Where in Seoul do I need to go to watch the games live?
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