Maru defeats Zest to win GSL Code S Season 2
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Musicus
Germany23567 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8749 Posts
On June 24 2018 18:09 neutralrobot wrote: I think I mentioned it before, but my feeling this season of GSL was that he took the foot off the accelerator during the group stages. Basically, I thought he was pacing himself so that he could be recharged enough to kick back into beast mode during the playoffs. I'd look to see him do something similar this season. It feels like he's gotten smart about managing himself so he doesn't suddenly crash from overworking. But we'll see. Edit: Of course, this almost saw him lose some games against players that shouldn't have been able to best him, like Zanster. It's a dangerous thing to do, but his general level of play has been good enough for him to get away with it so far. I think he's got another season in him. Well he never actually games to Zanster. He went 4-0 in the ro32, and 4-1 in the ro16 (losing one game to Patience). While he didn't look quite as solid in groups as in the playoffs, he really didn't need to be. He played well enough to beat everyone he needed to. As far as playing in the Asian games goes, he should be able to slack of and still win the event. The competition is weaker than NA ladder | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15499 Posts
thx for posting this.... this is back before Marauders were called Firebears. On June 25 2018 02:31 Musicus wrote: Thinking back, I'll just look at Maru vs Rogue as the real final and then I can be happy with this season. ya, the NBA Finals this year was Golden State Versus Houston and the Stanley Cup Finals was Pittsburgh Versus Washington...it happens man. | ||
pvsnp
7676 Posts
On June 25 2018 02:54 Fango wrote: Well he never actually games to Zanster. He went 4-0 in the ro32, and 4-1 in the ro16 (losing one game to Patience). While he didn't look quite as solid in groups as in the playoffs, he really didn't need to be. He played well enough to beat everyone he needed to. As far as playing in the Asian games goes, he should be able to slack of and still win the event. The competition is weaker than NA ladder That's exactly why I was saying we should keep an eye on him. How hard is Maru going to practice for GSL now that he's just won two in a row? The Asian Games are are walk in the park and Maru was already complaining about his workload, so I wouldn't be surprised if he took a break for Season 3. Imo the only reason Maru stepped it up in the Ro8 was because he knew it would take everything he had to beat Rogue. After that he was in the semis and a little more effort would get him the trophy, so he buckled down and kept going. Now he's won, he can finally rest. Will he? | ||
sharkie
Austria17946 Posts
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neutralrobot
Australia1025 Posts
On June 25 2018 05:39 pvsnp wrote: That's exactly why I was saying we should keep an eye on him. How hard is Maru going to practice for GSL now that he's just won two in a row? The Asian Games are are walk in the park and Maru was already complaining about his workload, so I wouldn't be surprised if he took a break for Season 3. Imo the only reason Maru stepped it up in the Ro8 was because he knew it would take everything he had to beat Rogue. After that he was in the semis and a little more effort would get him the trophy, so he buckled down and kept going. Now he's won, he can finally rest. Will he? Yeah, I guess I just meant that it seemed like Maru used to have a tendency to peak and then crash, but I think he's found a place where he can rest "just enough" until it's time to go full throttle again. Like, I get the sense that he's found a balance where he doesn't fully burn out. I think he probably has energy management strategies that are more sustainable. But I guess we'll find out soon-ish! As a Maru fan who was wondering where his spark had gone for a while, I'm pretty excited about his form these days. Looking forward to seeing how next season goes. | ||
ToXavieR
Cuba19 Posts
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Waxangel
United States32419 Posts
On June 24 2018 07:27 Vincenzo wrote: Now everyone is like “Maru God”, “Maru bonjwa” blabla.... I want to remember how he won his last 3 finals. The WESG against Dark was exploiting the raven late game use when it was clearly imba. The GSL S1 2018 was a win against a Stats that was clearly nervous as in a normal Stats day. with his solid defense, if it had gone in Maru’s favor it would have been a 4-3. The GSL S1 finals remembered me a lot the Inno-Stats 4-0 finals of the IEM of last year whereas the type of games in the TY-Stats finals of Katowice 2017, was what I would have expected of a Stats at his level. The GSL S2 2018 against a Zest that played horrible (I don’t think Zest understands yet how he manage to win against TY) All in all, even if the results say the opposite I don’t think Maru is clearly better than TY, Rogue or Serral. Notice the 2 games that passed the 10-15min Rogue won (a Bo5 is not enough to discriminate among two evenly matched players) or the finals of the WESG against TY where TY won him 4-3. I like Maru’s style and probably he is now top3/5 but the "luck/situational component" of his wins should not be forgotten. There are some valid points here individually, but it falls apart overall. Rogue could definitely beat Maru in a BO7—those two are close. And since Maru has skirted major TvT tests so far, I'd be very intrigued by seeing him face TY. Serral, though... I'm not buying that one, esp after the beatdown at WESG. Here's my big problem with your argument: the format of StarCraft tournaments means it's almost impossible for the champ to have to face the #1 match-up player of all three races on their way to the title. You can basically pick apart any champion's run the way you nitpicked Maru. However, in reality, Maru actually had an incredibly impressive run when you think about the usual GSL championship path. He didn't just play "very good" players 2/3 of the vs T matchups, he beat the undisputed #1 players in ZvT (Rogue) and ZvP (Classic), which is incredibly rare. Zest getting crushed in the finals isn't Zest being weak—it's the natural capstone in a historically good run. Also, when everyone mysteriously falls apart against you across multiple finals, then maybe it's not just a 'mystery' and something you're doing right. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15499 Posts
On June 25 2018 22:02 Waxangel wrote: There are some valid points here individually, but it falls apart overall. Rogue could definitely beat Maru in a BO7—those two are close. And since Maru has skirted major TvT tests so far, I'd be very intrigued by seeing him face TY. Serral, though... I'm not buying that one, esp after the beatdown at WESG. Here's my big problem with your argument: the format of StarCraft tournaments means it's almost impossible for the champ to have to face the #1 match-up player of all three races on their way to the title. You can basically pick apart any champion's run the way you nitpicked Maru. However, in reality, Maru actually had an incredibly impressive run when you think about the usual GSL championship path. He didn't just play "very good" players 2/3 of the vs T matchups, he beat the undisputed #1 players in ZvT (Rogue) and ZvP (Classic), which is incredibly rare. Zest getting crushed in the finals isn't Zest being weak—it's the natural capstone in a historically good run. Also, when everyone mysteriously falls apart against you across multiple finals, then maybe it's not just a 'mystery' and something you're doing right. these are some great points. | ||
Ej_
47656 Posts
On June 25 2018 22:02 Waxangel wrote: undisputed #1 players in ZvT (Rogue) I believe the autocorrect failed you here. | ||
fishjie
United States1519 Posts
MARU SILENCES THE HATERS YET AGAIN what a beast edit: reads thread EW why are there haters still? grosssssss | ||
washikie
United States752 Posts
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Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
On June 24 2018 18:36 `dunedain wrote: Oh! That explains everything! Zest probably had a stomach ache! The crowd on Zest's side too is just like Dragon Ball Super Episode 15 – Make a Miracle, Satan the Hero! A Challenge from Outer Space! Poor Goku must've hurt Zest's pride and made him weak in the knees! | ||
MrMischelito
347 Posts
On June 23 2018 19:58 Djentleman2414 wrote: That was the most impressive part... Only the 4th game was close and it is even a bigger testament to Marus skill, that he came back in this game and defeated Zest, because in this game Maru had to play the catch-up game. oO In my view it was even that in Game 4 Maru decided to not at all play the catch-up game. Killer instinct! | ||
Fango
United Kingdom8749 Posts
On June 24 2018 07:27 Vincenzo wrote: The WESG against Dark was exploiting the raven late game use when it was clearly imba. I have no clue why people ever argued this. Dark won 3/4 games that went long in that series. Out of the four games Maru won, only one were ravens even featured. He won two with proxy rax, one with classic marine pressure, and won weird battlemech game (admittedly he made ravens here, but this game was so bizarre I'm not sure what you can make of it). Now you could make an argument for their GSL match, because Maru did actually win some games with ravens there. But attributing the WeSG series to ravens only make sense if you didn't actually watch the games. | ||
fishjie
United States1519 Posts
as artosis said, maru was speed running the gsl finals. ggwp. looks like soo will never win a gsl with maru in the way | ||
Riner1212
United States336 Posts
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NomaKasd
Scotland65 Posts
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ValM
India408 Posts
On June 28 2018 14:41 NomaKasd wrote: I dont wanna take anything frfom maru but called it couple of years ago Terran broken Yeah right. Looking at Rogue play and how much he won in a short span, Zerg must be broken too I guess. | ||
bObA
France300 Posts
On June 28 2018 15:55 ValM wrote: Yeah right. Looking at Rogue play and how much he won in a short span, Zerg must be broken too I guess. Very well said. I like so much your signature buddy | ||
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