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On July 24 2018 02:54 yht9657 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2018 00:15 Soularion wrote: Initial thoughts
Neeb and ShoWTimE both have first round upset potential, but don't be surprised if it's two foreigners in the Ro8.
That being said, SpeCial has semifinals potential, and I wouldn't be shocked by Serral making the finals.
Very, very, very good bracket for Serral. Only one terran (and it's not as scary as GuMi/TY would be) and then Rogue & Classic most likely. How is this a good bracket for Serral? He's going to face Inno/Rogue, two of the best players in the world and both superior to him, very likely not gonna face any Protoss players (Has, Showtime are easy prey, Zest and Classic suck in PVZ, while Stats and Neeb both in slump), and all Zergs on this side of the bracket either have excellent ZVZ (Rogue and Dark) or have recently had good results against him (Scarlett came close at Valencia). Basically besides his first-round opponent nothing works in favor of Serral this time. INnoVation, I suppose, is the second best terran in the tournament, but he's faaar under Maru (and even TY, who unfortunately won't be attending) and shouldn't be a solid favorite for Serral. Meanwhile we've seen him beat Rogue already this year, and I think he has the best chance of beating Rogue out of the top ZvZers (Dark and soO being the other two). Then he places Classic in semis, which as you've noted is a bad PVZ player. So basically, he's a Bo5 against most likely Rogue away from finals. Swap Rogue with Dark and Classic with Stats and his bracket is a lot harder. Not to mention the easy 1st round.
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On July 24 2018 20:23 Soularion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2018 02:54 yht9657 wrote:On July 24 2018 00:15 Soularion wrote: Initial thoughts
Neeb and ShoWTimE both have first round upset potential, but don't be surprised if it's two foreigners in the Ro8.
That being said, SpeCial has semifinals potential, and I wouldn't be shocked by Serral making the finals.
Very, very, very good bracket for Serral. Only one terran (and it's not as scary as GuMi/TY would be) and then Rogue & Classic most likely. How is this a good bracket for Serral? He's going to face Inno/Rogue, two of the best players in the world and both superior to him, very likely not gonna face any Protoss players (Has, Showtime are easy prey, Zest and Classic suck in PVZ, while Stats and Neeb both in slump), and all Zergs on this side of the bracket either have excellent ZVZ (Rogue and Dark) or have recently had good results against him (Scarlett came close at Valencia). Basically besides his first-round opponent nothing works in favor of Serral this time. INnoVation, I suppose, is the second best terran in the tournament, but he's faaar under Maru (and even TY, who unfortunately won't be attending) and shouldn't be a solid favorite for Serral. Meanwhile we've seen him beat Rogue already this year, and I think he has the best chance of beating Rogue out of the top ZvZers (Dark and soO being the other two). Then he places Classic in semis, which as you've noted is a bad PVZ player. So basically, he's a Bo5 against most likely Rogue away from finals. Swap Rogue with Dark and Classic with Stats and his bracket is a lot harder. Not to mention the easy 1st round.
If Inno plays Serral that means he was good enough to beat Rogue, something Maru has struggled with. And if Inno's TvZ is on Maru's level then Serral is toast. Serral's ZvT is not stronger than Rogue's ZvT no matter how you slice it.
Serral vs Inno, if it actually does happen, will not be happening in a vacuum. There's context to consider. The same exact logic applies to Classic as well. If Serral vs Classic actually happens, that means Classic beat Dark.
Serral's best chance is if the Zergs win, and even then ZvZ is, well, ZvZ.
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I would love to see Inno making it into the finals and beats Maru (Inno's TvT is better than Maru i belive) to defend his title after so many people doubt on him .
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On July 25 2018 01:15 ParksonVN wrote: Inno's TvT is better than Maru i belive Hard to say, Maru hasn't played against a good Terran since March.
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Inno 4-0'ed Rogue in the latest Ravencup. Though both sides didn't bring out their best games/strategies but it certainly doesn't hurt to dominate that much. One can argue that Rogue didn't want to show strategy but then why didn't he do textbook zerg standard play instead of cheese/all ins.
With that being said, Inno is my favorite player but I have to give Rogue the edge here. (Especially if Inno plays his normal standard game w/o mixing in timings and aggressiveness like Maru)
Though if Inno makes it past Rogue, this is easily a Maru vs Inno grand finals. Rogue or Inno would be in the grand finals. I am ok either way, Maru vs Rogue or Maru vs Innovation would be an epic finals. Maru skills is stronger than ever along with Rogue. Innovation is also peaking like he always does towards the end of the year. (GSL S3) Going to be so epic.
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On July 23 2018 01:09 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2018 00:06 AbouSV wrote: Second GSL VS the World in a row that soO is against Maru. And it happened to be the second time Maru is GSL champion in a row too T.T GSL vs the World =/= GSL Super Tournament
Oh true! My bad ^^
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Umm. GSL? vs? the World? Hello?
Anyone out there? With ability to read?
One half of the RO 16 will be RO32 quality, and one half of the RO 16 will be RO8 quality.
I am not impressed. Let's do some math considering how things should be.
Say you start with 8 foreigners vs 8 koreans. That's 8 guaranteed GSLvsWorld matches. Then, suppose 2 foreigners win. You have probably 3 more matches in the whole thing. For a total of EIGHT to ELEVEN matches that fit the name of the tourney.
Now let's do some math on the current situation. As it stands, we are guaranteed 4 GSLvsWorld matches in the Ro8. However, hold on. Due to the ecosystem division in Ro16, it's possible that the best candidates vs Koreans are defeated by foreigners who are better vs foreigners. So we basically can have one person advance. That's it. So we get a total of FOUR to SEVEN matches that fit the name of the tourney.
Now you might object that you don't want to see high-level foreigners vs. scrappy koreans (cough. Neeb vs. sOs cough.) However, except for the wildcard player in last year and this we realistically don't have a korean who isn't overall better than Serral. And even given that soO is ZvZking so he might pull off a win anyways.
End of discussion. I'm really not enthuzed that we will have to wait for Blizzcon before seeing any real GSLvWorld stuff. Blahze.
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Why aren't sOs or Trap in it?
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On July 31 2018 12:00 cephistry2 wrote: Why aren't sOs or Trap in it? 4 spots were awarded to players with most GSL points and other 4 through popular vote. They did not make it in either.
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Everyone keeps talking about how the matchmaking is stupid and doesn't make this a GSL vs the World event.
But this isn't a GSL vs the World Event.
This is Jin Air, with Everyone Else fighting for leftovers.
Everyone else is meaningfully teamless and coachless fighting for the leftovers. Sponsor-only-type-teams aren't true teams.
>>>>>> J I N A I R <<<<<<<<<
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Miss Valdez, mOOnGlaDe, and Wolf And Apollo
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I hope Kelazhur beats Serral, just for the lols, considering the voting debacle.
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So you are Has or Has's gf?
On July 23 2018 04:54 yubo56 wrote: Ro16: (T)Maru 3-0 (Z)soO (P)ShoWTimE 1-3 (P)Zest (P)Stats 3-0 (P)Cyan (T)MajOr 0-3 (P)Has (Z)Serral 3-0 (T)Kelazhur (Z)Rogue 3-1 (T)INnoVation (P)Neeb 0-3 (Z)Dark (P)Classic 3-2 (Z)Scarlett
Ro8: (T)Maru 3-1 (P)Zest (P)Stats 0-3 (P)Has (Z)Serral 2-3 (Z)Rogue (Z)Dark 3-2 (P)Classic
Ro4: (T)Maru 0-3 (P) Has (Z)Rogue 3-1 (Z)Dark
GF: (T) Has 4-0 (Z)Rogue
Let's be realistic here
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gonna have to give up sleeping for a few days I guess
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