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On August 15 2013 09:33 skyR wrote: Yes, all motherboards come with an ethernet port.
Ok, more problems ahead. Won't I need cooling for an oc i5? Doesn't that make it LESS cost efficient? wouldn't it be better to get i7, won't I need less cooling with it?
Spend less bucks on i5 to spend more bucks on cooling?
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You need an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking regardless if you have an i5 or i7.
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Hey guys I have an HP Pavilion a6720y that I got from a friend. It has a built in gpu chipset and I want to buy a 650 (non ti) to put in the extra PCI slot. I was just wondering if I would need a bigger PSU than that's in it to power the card.
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On August 15 2013 09:45 PoweredbyYogurt wrote: Hey guys I have an HP Pavilion a6720y that I got from a friend. It has a built in gpu chipset and I want to buy a 650 (non ti) to put in the extra PCI slot. I was just wondering if I would need a bigger PSU than that's in it to power the card.
Prebuilts typically don't come with good power supplies so it is suggested you get a new power supply that's higher in quality (not a bigger one) if you plan on adding a GPU. Though the GTX 650 uses roughly 70w so it might work though I wouldn't suggest it.
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I'm having problems installing windows 8 on my friend's new computer, I keep getting error code 0x80070057, the drive is unable to be formatted. I've tried manually using diskpart from cmd on the install disk, and it can clean (delete the MBR I think?) but not clean all (slow format I believe) successfully. The thing is, I've tried it on both the HDD and the SSD, and tested/formatted the HDD externally yet it was fine. I've also tried using a windows 7 install disk to format the drives but to no avail.
Does anyone have any suggestions? :s
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Ordered my parts today. Just went straight with skyR's build suggestion and I'm looking forward to it. It's actually going to be my first build starting from scratch, so I may jump on here if I run into any issues. Thanks for the suggestions; this thread is an incredible resource.
Also looks like my CPU cooler will be last to arrive. Will the NH-U14S be a bitch to install if I go ahead and mount the motherboard with the stock CPU cooler to hold me over?
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On August 15 2013 11:35 Rollin wrote: I'm having problems installing windows 8 on my friend's new computer, I keep getting error code 0x80070057, the drive is unable to be formatted. I've tried manually using diskpart from cmd on the install disk, and it can clean (delete the MBR I think?) but not clean all (slow format I believe) successfully. The thing is, I've tried it on both the HDD and the SSD, and tested/formatted the HDD externally yet it was fine. I've also tried using a windows 7 install disk to format the drives but to no avail.
Does anyone have any suggestions? :s
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2476568 <--- that's what your error code finds (but it's Windows 7)... it suggests to just use the graphical stuff of the installation program instead of diskpart command line stuff
As you have access to a different PC, try to switch the disk over from MBR to GPT for Windows 8 and the new board with UEFI BIOS after you have deleted all partitions. You can do this in Disk Management if you right-click on the empty drive in the left-most column where it says "Disk 0" etc. in the bottom half of the window. The menu will have an entry "convert to mbr" if it's already gpt and vice versa.
I guess you can also do that with diskpart on the new PC and the command seems to be "convert GPT":
DISKPART> help convert
Microsoft DiskPart version 6.2.9200
BASIC - Convert a disk from dynamic to basic. DYNAMIC - Convert a disk from basic to dynamic. GPT - Convert a disk from MBR to GPT. MBR - Convert a disk from GPT to MBR.
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On August 15 2013 11:58 Ropid wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 11:35 Rollin wrote: I'm having problems installing windows 8 on my friend's new computer, I keep getting error code 0x80070057, the drive is unable to be formatted. I've tried manually using diskpart from cmd on the install disk, and it can clean (delete the MBR I think?) but not clean all (slow format I believe) successfully. The thing is, I've tried it on both the HDD and the SSD, and tested/formatted the HDD externally yet it was fine. I've also tried using a windows 7 install disk to format the drives but to no avail.
Does anyone have any suggestions? :s http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2476568 <--- that's what your error code finds (but it's Windows 7)... it suggests to just use the graphical stuff of the installation program instead of diskpart command line stuff As you have access to a different PC, try to switch the disk over from MBR to GPT for Windows 8 and the new board with UEFI BIOS after you have deleted all partitions. You can do this in Disk Management if you right-click on the empty drive in the left-most column where it says "Disk 0" etc. in the bottom half of the window. The menu will have an entry "convert to mbr" if it's already gpt and vice versa. I guess you can also do that with diskpart on the new PC and the command seems to be "convert GPT": DISKPART> help convert
Microsoft DiskPart version 6.2.9200
BASIC - Convert a disk from dynamic to basic. DYNAMIC - Convert a disk from basic to dynamic. GPT - Convert a disk from MBR to GPT. MBR - Convert a disk from GPT to MBR.
Ya I had already tried using the installer to format regularly (delete all partitions and repartition/format) and what happened was it would "format" it instantly, then when it started "installing" it couldn't format the disk (what the fuck microsoft, pull your shit together).
I'll try converting it to gbt when I get back from uni, cheers.
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On August 15 2013 11:50 Stoids wrote: Ordered my parts today. Just went straight with skyR's build suggestion and I'm looking forward to it. It's actually going to be my first build starting from scratch, so I may jump on here if I run into any issues. Thanks for the suggestions; this thread is an incredible resource.
Also looks like my CPU cooler will be last to arrive. Will the NH-U14S be a bitch to install if I go ahead and mount the motherboard with the stock CPU cooler to hold me over?
Think you'd have to take the mobo out of the case to install the backplate for it
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R4 has a CPU cutout. If the cutout allows you to access the mounting holes on the back than yes you can install the Intel heatsink to tide you over until your NH-U14S arrives. Unless Z87 socket is positioned differently than the Z68 than the cutout should be positioned correctly to allow access for all the mounting holes.
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Hey everyone, I need your advice on an issue. I am relocating (from Budapest to Glasgow) and have to fit into two (huge) trunks, and plan on taking my desktop with me. I am leaving the case, but think of keeping the psu. Apart from removing the firewire, usb 3.0, videocard, heatsink, ram and harddrives and packaging them in bubblewrapper and antistatic seperately is there any precautions I should take? For example should I leave the processor in the mobo or package that seperately as well? Any good UK vendors for PC cases I should check? I was thinking of ordering this: http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Home/Product/52782/CiT-Case-Knight-Black-Mesh-500W---with-black upon arrival but I'm very careful with PSU-s (it does not specify anywhere what make the PSU is) and I currently own a Corsair 430cx which is so great I'm not too keen on letting it go.
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Any case + inbuilt PSU for £23 will most likely be really terrible. What CPU/mobo do you have? Modern intel motherboards for example have the pins for contact with the CPU in the socket, and come with a socket protector so that they don't get bent
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It's a Gigabyte ep43 ds3l with a q6600. I found this store: http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/cases/ they have a lot of fairly priced cases with tons of positive feedback. My current case is almost 10 years old now and was quite crappy to begin with, and I won't be modding or installing fancy LED cables nor lugging the system around much (but hey, a good LAN might make me eat my words ) so I don't mind if something is not top of the line quality as long as it houses my system and sits under the desk minding its own business.
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Just noticed I accidently ordered the 1866 clock speed of the RAM you suggested skyR, instead of the 2400. Is the difference enough that I should go ahead and order the 2400 and send the 1866 right back?
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Not a big deal, you probably wouldnt notice it in anything
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Well even though my warrenty was up HIS were still nice enough to send me a 7770 after my 6870 broke. I mean its quite a bit worse but my 6870 was always way more then I needed.
Lets me save a little more to get a good upgrade this time at least. woot
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On August 09 2013 08:34 skyR wrote: I assume you're plugging them into your USB3 ports, do you get this problem with the USB2 ports as well?
Totally forgot about this with TI3 madness, Yeah that's in USB 3.0 ports, I haven't played with usb 2.0 much but lately it hasn't been that bad. The PC is running windows 7 btw. Edit: Actually IIRC I did have a problem with USB 2.0 aswell, plugged a hd there after trying USB 3.0, and nothing happened till reboot Also today I plugged in another 3.0 HD in usb 3.0 and it told me it could run faster if I plug it in a 3.0 port.. Didn't have that happen with a different 3.0 drive. They're just acting wierd;o
I have a similar problem with my laptop so I don't think its my PC build. Seagate usb 3.0 external hd stopped showing up when I plug it into my y510p laptop's 3.0 ports as well, but reads in the USB 2.0 port fine, on windows 8 that is. Used to work great for a few weeks and then just stopped... Wish they would've fixed those issues by now
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On August 16 2013 01:05 TheMooseHeed wrote: Well even though my warrenty was up HIS were still nice enough to send me a 7770 after my 6870 broke. I mean its quite a bit worse but my 6870 was always way more then I needed.
Lets me save a little more to get a good upgrade this time at least. woot That was very nice of them. I don't think the 7770 is too far behind the 6870 performance-wise?
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You need to use offset if you want it to downvolt.
Not with Haswell. Manual on gigabyte boards will give you ~0.72vcore idles and ~0.2 in c-states or whatever, however that works.
I missed a page somehow, how silly of me
Anyway 1.27vcore is not scary, i just said that so you could bump up a bit without my feedback because i was unconscious as you can see yourself, temps getting hot hot. I don't think it's a good idea to use floating point heavy stress tests with avx enabled unless you're trying to test theoretical max temps, because they increase vcore without your control and increase temperatures so much, and there's no indication so far, AFAIK, that either of these two are happening:
1. That the tests show instability that would pop up in regular workloads better than other stability testing
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2. That the elevated temperatures actually happen in any load that happens outside of a stress test
If either of those were true, we'd use avx2 tests - and well, everyone without delid or custom water would be limited to 1.15 volts or so, so like 4.1-4.4ghz depending on the chip, and everyone with worse cooling would be overheating on stock settings by those standards. It's a big, poorly documented mess.
With 124's still i'd hit uncore like ropid said, either 1.2-1.25 ring volts, see if it goes away, or manual to 34x or 30x. Bios update to f6 (i know that one works ok) if it doesn't stick in cpu-z (memory tab, nb frequency)
Also you're hotter than me by a pretty big margin, like 12c. Down to ambient temperatures, application of cooler, case airflow or how your fans are being controlled, cause the u14s shouldn't be trailing a silver arrow like that.
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