On July 24 2014 05:40 Psychonian wrote: Hey, can someone tell me whether or not the Logitech M510 has hardware accel? TY
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I found this list of mice with flawless or near flawless sensors, seems pretty legit : http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56240.0 as the m510 is laser AND wireless, I would take a wild guess and say that it may have acceleration, and it also seems to have lagg problems according to forum posts. Doesn't seem very suited to gaming anyway :/
On July 24 2014 05:40 Psychonian wrote: Hey, can someone tell me whether or not the Logitech M510 has hardware accel? TY
guys plz
I found this list of mice with flawless or near flawless sensors, seems pretty legit : http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56240.0 as the m510 is laser AND wireless, I would take a wild guess and say that it may have acceleration, and it also seems to have lagg problems according to forum posts. Doesn't seem very suited to gaming anyway :/
I heard to just assume laser mice have acceleration. But I dunno I'm pretty bad at mice knowledge.
Polling rate is how often the hardware is asked for new information, so for a 500-1000hz mouse there is up to a 2ms or 1ms delay added from polling alone, and for a 125hz mouse it's up to 8ms.
There are a ton of other latency sources though, from processing in the mouse itself not being instant, to other stuff on the PC. A 125hz mouse is a big no for input latency on say a 144hz screen, but might be usable for some on 60hz. You can overclock some with USB drivers i think on windows 7 at least
On July 24 2014 12:51 Cyro wrote: Polling rate is how often the hardware is asked for new information, so for a 500-1000hz mouse there is up to a 2ms or 1ms delay added from polling alone, and for a 125hz mouse it's up to 8ms.
There are a ton of other latency sources though, from processing in the mouse itself not being instant, to other stuff on the PC. A 125hz mouse is a big no for input latency on say a 144hz screen, but might be usable for some on 60hz. You can overclock some with USB drivers i think on windows 7 at least
What sort of heat sink would you recommend for overclocking a mouse?
On July 24 2014 12:51 Cyro wrote: Polling rate is how often the hardware is asked for new information, so for a 500-1000hz mouse there is up to a 2ms or 1ms delay added from polling alone, and for a 125hz mouse it's up to 8ms.
There are a ton of other latency sources though, from processing in the mouse itself not being instant, to other stuff on the PC. A 125hz mouse is a big no for input latency on say a 144hz screen, but might be usable for some on 60hz. You can overclock some with USB drivers i think on windows 7 at least
How do you overclock a mouse? My Logitech MX518 does only 125MHz.
On July 24 2014 12:51 Cyro wrote: Polling rate is how often the hardware is asked for new information, so for a 500-1000hz mouse there is up to a 2ms or 1ms delay added from polling alone, and for a 125hz mouse it's up to 8ms.
There are a ton of other latency sources though, from processing in the mouse itself not being instant, to other stuff on the PC. A 125hz mouse is a big no for input latency on say a 144hz screen, but might be usable for some on 60hz. You can overclock some with USB drivers i think on windows 7 at least
How do you overclock a mouse? My Logitech MX518 does only 125MHz.
Not sure if saying "overclock" for the mouse is right. It's done on the PC side on the USB port. Normally the mouse says what "polling rate" it wants, and the driver then configures that for the USB port. Your MX518 apparently says it wants 125 Hz.
There's some sort of hack that can change this behavior on Windows 7. It replaces the USB human input device driver file with a patched one or something, making it ignore the mouse saying that it wants 125 Hz. This will only influence mice (and keyboards?), so no issue with any other USB device. Your MX518 will run fine at 500 Hz. No idea about 1000 Hz.
Has anyone used a Mionix recently? I'm wanting to get an ergonomic mouse in the hope of alleviating some hand pain I've been having, and the Mionix Naos looks like it fits the bill.
Most of the reviews I've read have said that the Naos' grip feels great, but the Mionix software is garbage and next to useless. Does anyone know if there have been any updates to the software or have any opinions of Mionix/Naos in general?
Not sure about those specifically, but if you're having pain then you should take a nice long look at your posture, the way you sit, how high your elbow is relative to the desk etc (it shouldn't be far lower, it should be equal height or a little higher)
and also on mouse sensitivity. A lot of people get pain from using too high mouse sensitivity which forces them to grip tighter in order to be accurate. 800dpi, 1:1 on 1920x1080 is more than enough, and lower sensitivity takes reliance off your wrist/hand while making it easier to hit small targets and repeat movements accurately with good muscle memory
If you have any concerns for speed at such a sensitivity - - one of the best osu mouse players
heavier than wired mouses doesnt mean too heavy imo.
It's in the heaviest weight class though - where ~70-90g means small and 120-130g big, a 150g mouse with weird weight distribution stands out a lot
Weird weight distribution ? oO And still it does not mean it is too heavy. I had a G5 before and I used some weights in it cos I found it a bit too light actually. I changed for this one and didn't find any problem with the weight. Polling rate is really good too. Nothing noticable about latency neither. On the other hand I did notice the upgrade of comfort having no wire.
Finally ordered a zowie FK1 as my spawn isn't suited for FPS and my old 3.0 is a train wreck (scroll wheel randomly going up/down making for funny jumps in the middle of CS sneaky 1V1's :D). First you can set everything up without drivers; you set the polling rate by pressing a button before plugging it in, dpi on a button near the sensor, and you can switch between right and left hand mode with a button combo too. The mouse is about the size and shape of a sensei, maybe a bit shorter. The coating is great, the grip on the mouse is really good. Clics are a bit hard (really noticeable compared to the spawn's omnron (?) switches), a bit surprising at first but totally fine. And 3310 sensor is great, of course. I'm just gonna venture a stupid question; lots of pros seem to prefer using 400 dpi rather than going up to 800 and halfing their in game sensitivity. Same with the polling rate, most of them use 500hz. I don't see any reason to do that other than them being stubborn or the placebo effect from having the exact same settings than with their old 1.6 hardware. Can someone just confirm this? I've read stuff about 1000hz potentially affecting performance but I suppose it shouldn't on an I5 2500 ?
Batteries are more dense than the other materials in a mouse, so it feels different to a mouse of the same weight that doesn't use batteries
I see. I guess weight and balance matters more for people constantly lifting the mouse. I pretty much never do.
It matters less at high sens.
For somebody who would use 600-800dpi on 1920x1080 for osu/league/sc2 or 30cm for a 180 turn in an FPS game it's much more of an issue compared to someone who's just using 1800dpi for osu/league/sc2/etc and not playing FPS aside from very high sens
@above.. 800 should work the same as 400 afaik, some people with some mice use 500hz over 1000 because it can be more stable, but that's only an issue with certain mice
Yeah I tried both DPI settings and noticed no difference, guess they just do that out of habit like playing on low res Mouse is terrific, the shape is really perfect for me. Definitely consider it if you want a claw/palm mouse!
800 is probably better because 400 on 1920x1080 would be slow for menu usage etc, you can actually use 800 everywhere and get used to it, and just have whatever sens multipliers in FPS. There's probably some "best" sensitivity setting on an engine that some people work DPI around though
Yeah, you got a switch under the mouse to switch DPI, so it's really easy and fast to do, that's why I asked if there was ever a reason I could easily have used 400 for CS, 800 for the rest.
My replacement G100S is 1 month old and allready the button presses do not register all the time, i expect it to get much worse until its unusable again.
Anyone has any reccomendations for a similar smallish fingertip mouse that is using a infrared sensor? (i like my cloth pad)
Is probably has been asked numerous times through the thread but since we aare in 2014 now aand new mices are in the market, my question is: Is there any mice similar in grip and sensor quality to the G9x or G9?, I've been looking for something similar since Logitech stopped manufacturing them.
Yeah, look up the Corsair M45 (I hope I mentioned the right number as there's a whole bunch of those from Corsair). Its shape is the closest that exists to how a G9x feels in your hand.
Corsair has a whole bunch of mice with that shape so you can also get laser if you want, but you probably want the one that has the 3310 sensor. It's an optical sensor where everyone agrees it's pretty close to perfect, best you can get. If you always only used G9 and G9x so only know laser, optical means you'll probably want to use it on a mouse pad and not on a table.