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Hey all, i just want to make sure that I'm not going to destroy my brand new computer :D I am building a computer with an i3 2120, and I'm 95% sure that the gray stuff that is on the bottom of the heatsink is all the thermal grease I need, but the 5% uncertainty is killing me. Thanks :D Edit: I just started putting it together, so I shouldn't have been able to do any harm yet, and if I'm wrong it'll be easy to fix, but I won't be able to go into task manager to check up on the performance.
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I can't watch streams on TL, but I can watch it on twitch.tv I want to watch it on TL like I used to. Is anyone having problems with this kinda issue?
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On April 12 2012 16:56 Mordanis wrote: Hey all, i just want to make sure that I'm not going to destroy my brand new computer :D I am building a computer with an i3 2120, and I'm 95% sure that the gray stuff that is on the bottom of the heatsink is all the thermal grease I need, but the 5% uncertainty is killing me. Thanks :D Edit: I just started putting it together, so I shouldn't have been able to do any harm yet, and if I'm wrong it'll be easy to fix, but I won't be able to go into task manager to check up on the performance.
Yes the grey stuff under the Intel stock heatsink is thermal paste. All you do is install it properly and you're set to go.
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On April 07 2012 06:37 Medrea wrote: If you are using Xsplit then yeah you need the paid version to stream full screen anything. The beta only grabs windows. I'm actually using FME, in conjunction with other programs. Is there anyway to snag fullscreen with that?
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If I connect the case's fans to the motherboard can I control the fan's speed (and noise)? How do I adjust them? Right now they are connected to the power supply and are really loud.
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On April 12 2012 21:01 Artline wrote: If I connect the case's fans to the motherboard can I control the fan's speed (and noise)? How do I adjust them? Right now they are connected to the power supply and are really loud.
The motherboard should have connectors for this and the fans are automatically controlled via the BIOS. You can change the specifics of this inside the bios menu.
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what stream "ticker" are some streamers using? im talking about a sentence ticker at the bottom/top of stream screens.
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Since my Seagate external drive fell apart (literally, the USB port fell out) I've got a nice Seagate 1TB drive sitting on my desk that I can't use. I'm on a laptop, and despite having two old desktops in the closet, I have no monitor to hook them up to (fml). Soooo I'm looking at getting a nice enclosure so I can access my files again. Anyone have any experience with harddrive enclosures?
I'd like to get one with an eSATA so I can actually use that damn port on my laptop, and I'm really really looking for something with decent build quality as I tend to take it with me a lot.
Thermaltake has one for $31 that I was looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153123 And Rosewill has one for $30 as well http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817173042
Both are SATA II which is also something I want as the drive in question is a Barracuda 7200.12 (which incidentally I was really surprised to find inside of that cheap crappy plastic case) I'm leaning towards the Thermaltake one as it's more compact and has a passive cooling system (seriously is an 80mm fan really necessary for an external HDD?)
Anyway anyone have any thoughts?
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On April 13 2012 03:12 TheToast wrote:Since my Seagate external drive fell apart (literally, the USB port fell out) I've got a nice Seagate 1TB drive sitting on my desk that I can't use. I'm on a laptop, and despite having two old desktops in the closet, I have no monitor to hook them up to (fml). Soooo I'm looking at getting a nice enclosure so I can access my files again. Anyone have any experience with harddrive enclosures? I'd like to get one with an eSATA so I can actually use that damn port on my laptop, and I'm really really looking for something with decent build quality as I tend to take it with me a lot. Thermaltake has one for $31 that I was looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153123And Rosewill has one for $30 as well http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817173042Both are SATA II which is also something I want as the drive in question is a Barracuda 7200.12 (which incidentally I was really surprised to find inside of that cheap crappy plastic case) I'm leaning towards the Thermaltake one as it's more compact and has a passive cooling system (seriously is an 80mm fan really necessary for an external HDD?) Anyway anyone have any thoughts?
You don't need fans. Just noise waiting to happen. If you like the TT, get it, this isn't the sort of situation where it should make a whole lot of difference unless there's a ton of (reliable) complaints about build quality.
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On April 13 2012 05:12 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2012 03:12 TheToast wrote:Since my Seagate external drive fell apart (literally, the USB port fell out) I've got a nice Seagate 1TB drive sitting on my desk that I can't use. I'm on a laptop, and despite having two old desktops in the closet, I have no monitor to hook them up to (fml). Soooo I'm looking at getting a nice enclosure so I can access my files again. Anyone have any experience with harddrive enclosures? I'd like to get one with an eSATA so I can actually use that damn port on my laptop, and I'm really really looking for something with decent build quality as I tend to take it with me a lot. Thermaltake has one for $31 that I was looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153123And Rosewill has one for $30 as well http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817173042Both are SATA II which is also something I want as the drive in question is a Barracuda 7200.12 (which incidentally I was really surprised to find inside of that cheap crappy plastic case) I'm leaning towards the Thermaltake one as it's more compact and has a passive cooling system (seriously is an 80mm fan really necessary for an external HDD?) Anyway anyone have any thoughts? You don't need fans. Just noise waiting to happen. If you like the TT, get it, this isn't the sort of situation where it should make a whole lot of difference unless there's a ton of (reliable) complaints about build quality.
Yeah there are some complaints in the feed back about the plastic plate breaking when the screws are tightened, but that's it. Not that there's much choice, out of the drives that can do both USB and eSATA; TT, Rosewill, and Startek are the only brands I recognize and StarTeck isn't exactly associated with quality in my mind. It's a shame USB 3.0 is already killing off eSATA, you don't really get 5GB/s real data transfer.
Oh, an hilariously TT makes one with TWO fans, just in case one isn't enough. I guess that's just in case someone figures out how to overclock their HDD lol.
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That sounds like the sort of complaint you get from people who are better at being tools than using them. And yeah, I'd only do USB3 over esata if I was dealing with a thumb drive. Of course, I'm a performance nut, and if I'm in a place where I can't access my desktop, all I need is email, so I really wouldn't be in that situation to begin with. But hey, that's just me.
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Is the Nvidia GTX 460 better then the GTX 550Ti? Also, Whats the difference between AMD and Nividia cards? Do they work differently with Mboards?
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AMD and nVidia are just competitors, motherboards dont factor into it at all.
A 460 is quite a bit better than a 550ti. That being said a 6850 for the right price is better than both.
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Thanks alot Medrea ^^
Another question. How can you tell if a mboard is actually what you are looking for, I have no idea about the number/letter sequence in the name, I usually go price on whether it's good or not.
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Well you can ask teamliquid. Also check out the first page in the computer build resource thread.
As for a real answer. H denotes not overclocking, P overclocks, Z overclocks and has integrated video support. There is of course a lot more to it than that. But that's my simple answer. And generally speaking more expensive motherboards will not make your system perform better.
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Oh yeah. Thanks that's really helpful!
Much love xoxo
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Noticing that the motherboard segment in that thread is very old now. Maybe we do need a re-thread.
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On April 13 2012 08:50 Jomz wrote: Thanks alot Medrea ^^
Another question. How can you tell if a mboard is actually what you are looking for, I have no idea about the number/letter sequence in the name, I usually go price on whether it's good or not.
First thing you want to do is make sure the socket is compatible with the CPU you are looking at buying. For reference wikipedia has a nice list of i7s here and a list of i5s here that have the information about which socket each one is compatible with.
Beyond that, benchmarks, benchmarks, benchmarks. Did I mention benchmarks? Most people don't pay much attention to it, but the motherboard is what interfaces all of your components and as such can make a sizable difference in the performance of the full PC. Hardware review sites like Tom's Hardware usually have benchmarks comparing it to compeating boards. Though be careful not to compare across different benchmarks as different reviewers might be using different hardware that can affect the outcome.
Things like the number of PCI and PCIe slots are important, but really should be secondary to the performance of the board. Price is an important factor to take into account, but higher price doesn't always (read: rarely) indicate better performance. Nor do boards using the same chipsets (that is the stuff on the motherboard) necessarily have the same performance either as poor engineering can cause it to be slower.
Things that aren't very important include triple channel versus dual channel memory and number of USB ports or eSATA ports (these can always be added with additional expansion cards later if you need them).
-edit: double ninja'd, fail
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Of course people don't pay attention to benchmarks for motherboards. Why would they when it often makes less than a single FPS difference and often not even a tenth an FPS difference?
Tom's Hardware is awful now >.>
The only performance bearing element of a motherboard is its ability to overclock with respect to heat.
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On April 13 2012 09:04 Medrea wrote: Of course people don't pay attention to benchmarks for motherboards. Why would they when it often makes less than a single FPS difference and often not even a tenth an FPS difference?
Tom's Hardware is awful now >.>
The only performance bearing element of a motherboard is its ability to overclock with respect to heat.
FPS's aren't the only thing you can benchmark: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/x79-extreme4-dx79to-p9x79-benchmark,3138-20.html
And you can sometimes get sizable differences: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/x79-ud3-p9x79-pro-dx79si-benchmark,3111-19.html
All motherboards are not equal. Granted I'm still stuck in 2004 when there was a much bigger difference in performance, but I'm still of the mindset that you need to thoroughly research a motherboard before you buy it. It's the single most important component choice you are going to make (read: most important decision, not most important component because let's face it you already know what CPU family you are going to buy) and it's often regarded as the least important. Also a badly designed BIOS can be a pain in the ass, which is another reason it's a good idea to look into some reviews.
-edit: and yeah I don't like Tom's hardware, but they have a ton of benchmarks.
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