http://tietokonekauppa.fi/product/68164/
Versus.
4*2GB DD3 SDRAM PC3-12800 Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 XMP:1.65V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260
Why?
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Bloody
Sweden194 Posts
July 27 2015 19:08 GMT
#11041
http://tietokonekauppa.fi/product/68164/ Versus. 4*2GB DD3 SDRAM PC3-12800 Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 XMP:1.65V http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260 Why? | ||
Cyro
United Kingdom20157 Posts
July 27 2015 21:18 GMT
#11042
Did you also verify that they're both at the correct voltage, clock speed and primary timings in bios? You can also make sure that it's correctly installed for dual-channel operation with the memory tab of a program called cpu-z. That program will also show the clock speed and timings without you having to go into bios, it should read 800mhz 9-9-9-24 dual channel for the new RAM (it's double data rate RAM, the effective data rate is 1600mhz and that is what is advertised but the actual displayed clock speed is half of that) | ||
Bloody
Sweden194 Posts
July 28 2015 09:53 GMT
#11043
On July 28 2015 06:18 Cyro wrote: What benchmark and stat is benchmarking lower? Did you also verify that they're both at the correct voltage, clock speed and primary timings in bios? You can also make sure that it's correctly installed for dual-channel operation with the memory tab of a program called cpu-z. That program will also show the clock speed and timings without you having to go into bios, it should read 800mhz 9-9-9-24 dual channel for the new RAM (it's double data rate RAM, the effective data rate is 1600mhz and that is what is advertised but the actual displayed clock speed is half of that) Are the Corsair vengeance suppose to be as good or better? Should I use two corsair vengeance and two of the other kind? There is a total of 4 ram slots on my motherboard (a97-a) | ||
Cyro
United Kingdom20157 Posts
July 28 2015 14:56 GMT
#11044
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Bloody
Sweden194 Posts
July 28 2015 19:46 GMT
#11045
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Cyro
United Kingdom20157 Posts
July 29 2015 00:43 GMT
#11046
a 2% variance in overall performance is in margin for error anyway unless you're being extremely strict about how you benchmark and the program that you're using has very little variance in controlled conditions | ||
help_pls
6 Posts
August 03 2015 19:33 GMT
#11047
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Cyro
United Kingdom20157 Posts
August 04 2015 07:10 GMT
#11048
then everything moves too fast like there is frames going missing You mean like game is stuttering? Sometimes running some stuff (especially flash player) makes GPU driver act differently and run at lower/higher clock speeds etc. You can monitor GPU clock speeds under load with a program called "gpu-z" and see if it's different when you have weird behavior | ||
ExChill
Germany179 Posts
August 04 2015 13:42 GMT
#11049
I often run many programs at the same time though, like Chrome with 20 Tabs, iTunes, SC2, Steam, Skype, OneNote and on top of that some tools in the background like Dropbox and Pushbullet. Would an i7 make a difference compared to an i5, when running many programs at the same time? Or would I only need more RAM for that? | ||
Cyro
United Kingdom20157 Posts
August 04 2015 14:49 GMT
#11050
I often run many programs at the same time though, like Chrome with 20 Tabs, iTunes, SC2, Steam, Skype, OneNote and on top of that some tools in the background like Dropbox and Pushbullet. Would an i7 make a difference compared to an i5, when running many programs at the same time? edit: Didn't see which thread this was posted in. Oops. + Show Spoiler + Most programs use very minimal amounts of CPU. I'll quote some numbers from what i have now with a 4770k @4.5ghz these are deflated a little, because it's measured as if it's an 8 core CPU when it's actually 4 core+HT. In worst case scenario, the load might be considered twice as high (a 50% load on one core would read as 12.5% load on an i5 but 6.25% load on an i7, though their capabilities are not that different) Firefox with 9 tabs open: 0.4% CPU load VLC playing a .wav - 0.28% CPU Steam idling - 0.07% CPU Skype open - 0.02% CPU everything on my system totalled together aside from KSP which is in the middle of gameplay literally adds up to under 1% CPU load. 2% if you assume that hyperthreading adds 0 performance. It's just not any type of challenge for a modern or even an old CPU. somebody looking at the resource monitor or task manager might not get a clear picture if they have power saving settings enabled - the CPU might drop to 800mhz and show 10% load, but that's equivelant to only 2% load if it feels the need to run at higher clocks and rises to 4000mhz. Chrome with 20 Tabs, iTunes, SC2, Steam, Skype, OneNote and on top of that some tools in the background like Dropbox and Pushbullet The only thing in your list that i know to use any significant amount of CPU is sc2, which will max one core and put minor to moderate load on a second. iTunes should use almost 0 CPU unless it's badly coded (if so, maybe you could use something else for playing audio) and i'm not sure what OneNote or Pushbullet do, but it needs to be actual CPU heavy work to make a difference~ The added load from everyday desktop programs is just extremely minor, you usually need a program that has significant CPU load to even consider it. One of the more common ones would be livestreaming gameplay, live encoding while running the game itself. Hyperthreading might not raise the game framerate while you're streaming for various complicated reasons, but it will let you raise the resolution/FPS of the stream. The vast, vast majority of streams stick to lowish bitrates though, like 2-4mbit/s - an i5 4690k is already as fast as an i7 2600k or an fx 8320-9590 for encoding and is not really particularly challenged by encoding at those framerates and resolutions w/ x264 at quality-efficient settings. The only time i'd recommend stepping to i7 for gaming would be when playing games that are CPU heavy and hit many cores at the same time, while also wanting to stream with CPU encoding. That's a bit of a niche, considering there are not many of those games and GPU encoding is quite good for them as a rule (NVENC will give you more ingame FPS, no CPU load, free ability to encode at whatever FPS and resolution you could want to stream at - you just have to pay by losing quality at the same bitrate) The high end desktop platform (5820k) is also surprisingly competitively priced. If highly multithreaded performance is your thing, performance per dollar can actually be BETTER with the 6 core, 12 thread CPU because of how badly the 4 core i7's are priced. RAM usage DOES massively increase as you open more programs. Browsers often hit a gigabyte or two for me, though i've seen a few friends with like 10GB dedicated to web browsers. Most of my programs use very little RAM but you can take a look at what you run, how much RAM it likes to use and if you like to open a lot of stuff, you can often benefit from 16GB or even 32GB of RAM. I'm thinking of going past 8 this upgrade because i'm more often running a heavy browser session, a few programs like that and it's becoming much more common for a game to eat 3-6GB of RAM alone. I was forced to start running new skype recently, it regularly got to huge inflated amounts of memory usages and even crashed with out of memory errors, but since i blocked the adverts it doesn't do that any more and sticks at ~150MB. My PC responsiveness has very noticably improved going from an older SSD with ~350MB/s read, ~100MB/s write and ~50k IOPS (going from memory) to this one with ~550MB/s, ~530MB/s and ~98k IOPS, so you can also consider that the price gap between a quad core i5 and quad core i7 will buy you something like 350GB of good SSD. | ||
ExChill
Germany179 Posts
August 04 2015 15:20 GMT
#11051
With this I finished my build. I just posted it here if you want to take a look at it :D | ||
Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
August 06 2015 01:31 GMT
#11052
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DrunkenJedi
Germany173 Posts
August 07 2015 10:07 GMT
#11053
when i click on pop out there is only a small wide stripe of the stream in the top of the window. below that window is just white. resizing the window wont change anything..... Anyone an idea how to fix this? Screenshot [img]http://i.imgur.com/T13qPGo.png[/img] | ||
Belisarius
Australia6177 Posts
August 07 2015 11:38 GMT
#11054
I'm pretty sure the PCIe x16 slot on my z77 pro3 has died. My trusty 560 Ti (and two older GPUs I had lying around) started giving black screens at post, but work ok in the x4 slot. Is blaming the board reasonable here? PSU is basically brand new. Running in the x4 slot, it now blackscreens at the windows logo as soon as I install the NVIDIA drivers. I can always get to safemode, and if I use safemode to uninstall the NVIDIA stuff again I can get to normal in VGA. I can't get the driver working, though. I've tried 4 different versions from the past 1.5 years and every combination of disabling/enabling adapters, installing in safe/normal etc. that I can think of. Does this sound like something that can be solved with more fiddling/reformat or is it likely the hardware is fubared? I would love to be able to limp along on the x4 slot for at least another month or two, especially since TI5 is on atm. Full specs: + Show Spoiler + Intel G2030 (yeah, ikr) ASROCK z77 pro3 ASUS GTX560 Ti 2x G.skill 4Gb 1600Mhz Antec Earthwatts 650W | ||
BrutalMenace
United States1237 Posts
August 08 2015 03:17 GMT
#11055
I have i7 4790, and MSI R9 390 gpu, 750 watts, 16gb ram etc.. I get 60+ fps without ambient occlusion, then it drops to 20-30 when i turn it on. Running it at 1920x1080 not that it matters this card is built to handle witcher 3 and other games at ultra + 4k res. | ||
Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
August 08 2015 04:24 GMT
#11056
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Dingodile
4123 Posts
August 08 2015 10:19 GMT
#11057
I dont want it. I only want it on cd for a later date. | ||
{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
August 08 2015 10:29 GMT
#11058
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Incognoto
France10234 Posts
August 08 2015 11:18 GMT
#11059
I guess if it does that kind of stuff, I won't be installing it yet.. hmm I also don't like that apparently Windows 10 is tied to a single computer and that no keys are given. Really maybe it's time to start looking at Linux and Linux game support On August 08 2015 12:17 BrutalMenace wrote: [H] Low fps dota 2 on new comp I have i7 4790, and MSI R9 390 gpu, 750 watts, 16gb ram etc.. I get 60+ fps without ambient occlusion, then it drops to 20-30 when i turn it on. Running it at 1920x1080 not that it matters this card is built to handle witcher 3 and other games at ultra + 4k res. Hey, if you're using latest AMD drivers, try this perhaps. Go to AMD control panel and select or unselect VSR. Just toggle it. At the moment with latest AMD drivers I am forced to touch these options (doesn't matter on / off, just need to toggle) just to get acceptable fps in odl games: http://i.imgur.com/cKUIFq9.png | ||
Dingodile
4123 Posts
August 08 2015 20:00 GMT
#11060
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