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I could really use a suggestion for a new work monitor.
16:10 format (because I do Maya work.) 24" IPS (I just like the better colors and viewing angles.) Matte (I can't always control the reflections from the light outside so glossy is not ideal.) Rotate/Pivot to portrait mode. (its nice when editing code.)
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Dell U2415, Eizo EV2436W, BenQ PG2401PT, for example.
These are standard gamut (roughly sRGB). There are wide-gamut options that are more expensive, but if you don't need one, it's more trouble than it's worth.
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The 3 default "office worker" options I was given at work was U2414H (looks ok but 16), Dell P1911 (19" is a 100% no go), and Dell U2412M. I kinda want to try something that is flickerfree, and did stumble on Eizo EV2436W but maybe its easier to talk them into getting me a Dell U2415 than the Eizo.
I could never afford an Eizo when I was younger to I'm a bit tempted to go for that one. But the practical side of me just want to know if there is any big up/down sides between the U2415 and the Eizo EV2436W.
EDIT: Cheers Myrmidon for answering. And HAPPY BIRTHDAY! :D
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happy birthday myrmidon :B
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Hey guys I was wondering if someone could recommend to me a couple of companies that make good computer monitors. My current GPU is a gtx760 but my current monitor is a 60hz Sceptre that is probably 5-6 years old and with Black Friday coming up in a few weeks I am looking to purchase a new monitor if prices drop within my spending range.
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http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00171131.html
I just found this 144 Hz 1080p TN panel for only €210. It's cheaper than BenQ's XL2411Z, so I'm wondering what the catch is. Bad colors or bad strobing or something?
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I'm not fluent in french or anything, but I don't see any strobing mentioned on that webpage. I assume it's just a 144hz monitor with relatively bad colours, bad view angles (TN) and no anti-blur tech.
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Yeah it's a TN panel so the viewing angles must be bad. iirc though TN panels are the most responsive though.
I could see colors and anti-blur being bad. no strobing either but I forgot what that implies
hmm for these misgivings it makes sense to get the more expensive benq i would say. just thought it was curious to see a cheap monitor
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yeah yeah, christmas is approaching :D
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No strobing means sample-and-hold like pretty much every monitor since the CRT days. The fact that "moving" images are static between refreshes and shown for that whole period introduces perceived motion blur to eyes that are moving continuously to track the average motion (which does not start and stop like the actual display shows). The longer the "hold" period, the greater the error between the position the eye looks at and the position shown by the monitor, so the greater the blur.
So that's the extra blur reduction.
All of these are using the same AUO TN panels so colors aren't great on all of them, though out-of-box settings, gamma, etc. may be somewhat different. Asus VG248QE used the same panel but tuned it to boost up dark grays for visibility in games, making them more different from black, objectively less accurate, and subjectively duller looking on the whole.
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Have something that is bugging me, was wondering if anyone here has suggestions. I've got two Dell P2314H monitors, and they're fine, but because of how and where I have to put the lighting there's a reflection on the screen from the lamp. Is there anything that could make that hopefully go away? (Besides moving the light - wiring makes that a pain and I'd rather avoid it if there's a filter or something I could put on the screen.)
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How relevant is the info on the OP atm? I'm looking to get a monitor (1920x1080 res) this weekend in the $200-$250 price range. Any recommended monitors to keep an eye out that's not on the OP?
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On November 24 2014 08:07 felisconcolori wrote: Have something that is bugging me, was wondering if anyone here has suggestions. I've got two Dell P2314H monitors, and they're fine, but because of how and where I have to put the lighting there's a reflection on the screen from the lamp. Is there anything that could make that hopefully go away? (Besides moving the light - wiring makes that a pain and I'd rather avoid it if there's a filter or something I could put on the screen.) The panels already have a medium antiglare matte finish. You could diffuse it even more, but at the cost of degrading the quality of the actual image. I mean, everything you can do is a band-aid.
You either move the monitor or change where the light goes. That's really what it comes down to.
If the light is directly overhead, a shroud on top of the monitor like some professional monitors come with could work. If you just need light in the room but not around where computer is, maybe you could block some of the light coming from the lamp? But if your monitors are close to the wall like many set up their rooms, there are limited options unless you rearrange furniture and where stuff goes. It could be worth it for your eyes, though. Light sources behind you are terrible if you're trying to use monitors.
Also, do you really have to use that lamp? There are all kinds of other light fixtures, desk lamps, LED lighting strips, etc. that could provide illumination instead.
On November 24 2014 10:23 Ethelis wrote: How relevant is the info on the OP atm? I'm looking to get a monitor (1920x1080 res) this weekend in the $200-$250 price range. Any recommended monitors to keep an eye out that's not on the OP? It's kind of updated but isn't exactly comprehensive. What kind of monitor are you looking for, and for doing what, exactly? I don't think anybody wants to list every known model of potential interest to any certain segment that may drop in price into or below that range. Or at least, I don't!
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On November 24 2014 11:37 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 08:07 felisconcolori wrote: Have something that is bugging me, was wondering if anyone here has suggestions. I've got two Dell P2314H monitors, and they're fine, but because of how and where I have to put the lighting there's a reflection on the screen from the lamp. Is there anything that could make that hopefully go away? (Besides moving the light - wiring makes that a pain and I'd rather avoid it if there's a filter or something I could put on the screen.) The panels already have a medium antiglare matte finish. You could diffuse it even more, but at the cost of degrading the quality of the actual image. I mean, everything you can do is a band-aid. You either move the monitor or change where the light goes. That's really what it comes down to. If the light is directly overhead, a shroud on top of the monitor like some professional monitors come with could work. If you just need light in the room but not around where computer is, maybe you could block some of the light coming from the lamp? But if your monitors are close to the wall like many set up their rooms, there are limited options unless you rearrange furniture and where stuff goes. It could be worth it for your eyes, though. Light sources behind you are terrible if you're trying to use monitors. Also, do you really have to use that lamp? There are all kinds of other light fixtures, desk lamps, LED lighting strips, etc. that could provide illumination instead.
I don't necessarily need to use that light fixture, but it's location is because of outlet placement. It's the only switch controlled outlet in the room. I was thinking of getting some LED strips from IKEA (there being one nearby) and possibly putting them behind my monitors on the underside of my desk (glass and steel desk). Might help a little bit.
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On November 24 2014 11:37 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 08:07 felisconcolori wrote: Have something that is bugging me, was wondering if anyone here has suggestions. I've got two Dell P2314H monitors, and they're fine, but because of how and where I have to put the lighting there's a reflection on the screen from the lamp. Is there anything that could make that hopefully go away? (Besides moving the light - wiring makes that a pain and I'd rather avoid it if there's a filter or something I could put on the screen.) The panels already have a medium antiglare matte finish. You could diffuse it even more, but at the cost of degrading the quality of the actual image. I mean, everything you can do is a band-aid. You either move the monitor or change where the light goes. That's really what it comes down to. If the light is directly overhead, a shroud on top of the monitor like some professional monitors come with could work. If you just need light in the room but not around where computer is, maybe you could block some of the light coming from the lamp? But if your monitors are close to the wall like many set up their rooms, there are limited options unless you rearrange furniture and where stuff goes. It could be worth it for your eyes, though. Light sources behind you are terrible if you're trying to use monitors. Also, do you really have to use that lamp? There are all kinds of other light fixtures, desk lamps, LED lighting strips, etc. that could provide illumination instead. Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 10:23 Ethelis wrote: How relevant is the info on the OP atm? I'm looking to get a monitor (1920x1080 res) this weekend in the $200-$250 price range. Any recommended monitors to keep an eye out that's not on the OP? It's kind of updated but isn't exactly comprehensive. What kind of monitor are you looking for, and for doing what, exactly? I don't think anybody wants to list every known model of potential interest to any certain segment that may drop in price into or below that range. Or at least, I don't!
List all of em!
Naw, mostly for like MMOs/mobas no FPS games or anything like that.
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Any obviously awesome black friday deals on smaller secondary monitors? (Considering getting another one if there is a good deal. I've only used one before, and I don't have enough room for another 24" one on my desk.)
Particularly one that could be used in a vertical orientation for reading books and working on homework.
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On November 24 2014 11:41 felisconcolori wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 11:37 Myrmidon wrote:On November 24 2014 08:07 felisconcolori wrote: Have something that is bugging me, was wondering if anyone here has suggestions. I've got two Dell P2314H monitors, and they're fine, but because of how and where I have to put the lighting there's a reflection on the screen from the lamp. Is there anything that could make that hopefully go away? (Besides moving the light - wiring makes that a pain and I'd rather avoid it if there's a filter or something I could put on the screen.) The panels already have a medium antiglare matte finish. You could diffuse it even more, but at the cost of degrading the quality of the actual image. I mean, everything you can do is a band-aid. You either move the monitor or change where the light goes. That's really what it comes down to. If the light is directly overhead, a shroud on top of the monitor like some professional monitors come with could work. If you just need light in the room but not around where computer is, maybe you could block some of the light coming from the lamp? But if your monitors are close to the wall like many set up their rooms, there are limited options unless you rearrange furniture and where stuff goes. It could be worth it for your eyes, though. Light sources behind you are terrible if you're trying to use monitors. Also, do you really have to use that lamp? There are all kinds of other light fixtures, desk lamps, LED lighting strips, etc. that could provide illumination instead. I don't necessarily need to use that light fixture, but it's location is because of outlet placement. It's the only switch controlled outlet in the room. I was thinking of getting some LED strips from IKEA (there being one nearby) and possibly putting them behind my monitors on the underside of my desk (glass and steel desk). Might help a little bit. Maybe try using a much dimmer bulb there (so you can presumably flip the switch and actually see stuff in the room) and/or blocking some of the light and then using LED strips or a desk lamp, etc. that doesn't point light at the monitors to raise back up the room illumination to a reasonable level. A switch on the desk controlling that auxiliary lighting shouldn't be too much of a hassle.
Or maybe, depending on the type of bulb and fixture, you could use an extension so as to reposition where the light is. Depending on the angle, you also might be able to find a bulb with a dispersion pattern that doesn't laser beam your monitors.
...This is the interior decorating thread, right?
On November 24 2014 11:42 Ethelis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 11:37 Myrmidon wrote:On November 24 2014 08:07 felisconcolori wrote: Have something that is bugging me, was wondering if anyone here has suggestions. I've got two Dell P2314H monitors, and they're fine, but because of how and where I have to put the lighting there's a reflection on the screen from the lamp. Is there anything that could make that hopefully go away? (Besides moving the light - wiring makes that a pain and I'd rather avoid it if there's a filter or something I could put on the screen.) The panels already have a medium antiglare matte finish. You could diffuse it even more, but at the cost of degrading the quality of the actual image. I mean, everything you can do is a band-aid. You either move the monitor or change where the light goes. That's really what it comes down to. If the light is directly overhead, a shroud on top of the monitor like some professional monitors come with could work. If you just need light in the room but not around where computer is, maybe you could block some of the light coming from the lamp? But if your monitors are close to the wall like many set up their rooms, there are limited options unless you rearrange furniture and where stuff goes. It could be worth it for your eyes, though. Light sources behind you are terrible if you're trying to use monitors. Also, do you really have to use that lamp? There are all kinds of other light fixtures, desk lamps, LED lighting strips, etc. that could provide illumination instead. On November 24 2014 10:23 Ethelis wrote: How relevant is the info on the OP atm? I'm looking to get a monitor (1920x1080 res) this weekend in the $200-$250 price range. Any recommended monitors to keep an eye out that's not on the OP? It's kind of updated but isn't exactly comprehensive. What kind of monitor are you looking for, and for doing what, exactly? I don't think anybody wants to list every known model of potential interest to any certain segment that may drop in price into or below that range. Or at least, I don't! List all of em! Naw, mostly for like MMOs/mobas no FPS games or anything like that. The thing I forgot to explicitly mention was the size. If 27" 1080p isn't too low-density for you, there are options there, for example.
On November 24 2014 15:02 LeperKahn wrote: Any obviously awesome black friday deals on smaller secondary monitors? (Considering getting another one if there is a good deal. I've only used one before, and I don't have enough room for another 24" one on my desk.)
Particularly one that could be used in a vertical orientation for reading books and working on homework. With a clamp VESA mount you probably wouldn't need something that small, if space is the issue. But it sounds like price may be as well.
Note that TN panels look terrible in portrait mode because the top/bottom issues now become left/right side issues and that's much easier to see. Would say a 19" 5:4 display also work?
I haven't been looking for deals, unfortunately, so I couldn't say.
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Oh sorry, looking for 24"
Don't have the greatest space atm for a 27"
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On November 25 2014 03:09 Ethelis wrote: Oh sorry, looking for 24"
Don't have the greatest space atm for a 27" I'd say an ordinary IPS (PLS, AHVA) or VA. The latter if you want much better black levels and no off-angle "IPS glow" on dark content at the expense of slightly more motion blur and a little worse general off-angle viewing performance.
Aside from the options in the OP and similar models just different in size, look for recent Samsung PLS monitors or Asus models using IPS panels (these will advertise 178/178 viewing angles) and recent VA monitors sold by BenQ (these will advertise 3000:1 or 5000:1 static contrast ratio).
Most of these options are $200-250 range or less normally, even without sales.
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