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I managed to flash my router (Belkin Sharemax N300) to dd-wrt and set it up as a repeater using the steps in the wiki, but I can't access the internet via the repeater. It is also broadcasting a 3rd SSID, which is the SSID I'm trying to repeat, on an unsecured connection as well. I know almost nothing of networking and just follow steps.
Here are the steps I took to flash it to dd-wrt if it matters:
+ Show Spoiler +Just loaded the latest Toastman Tomato firmware. Here's the process I followed (merged some of the Amazon review tutorial with some other info I found on the net). I'm going off of memory here, so if someone wants to replicate this and add to the wiki be my guest. 1) Go here: http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/suppor...vn15396/Download: dd-wrt.v24-15396_NEWD-2_K2.6_mini_f7d3301.bin Keep the reset button pressed in for the next three steps: 3) While the unit is powered on Press the reset button for 30 secs 4) Keeping the reset button pressed, unplug the power (do not let up on the reset button) 5) Plug the power back in and wait for another 30 secs 6) You can now let up on the reset button Once the router is in this mode you will have access to a special "CFE menu". 7) Plug your desktop/laptop into port 1,2,3, or 4 and set your IP Address to 192.168.2.8 with a gateway of 192.168.2.1 8) Point your IE browser (Do not use Firefox) to 192.168.2.1 and CFE menu will be available. 9) Load the bin file you downloaded in step 1 10) It will take about 5 minutes to load dd-wrt. After 5 minutes I opened a new tab and was able to connect to 192.168.1.1. (I think I had to reset my ip address back to dhcp in order to connect).
I uploaded the firmware and waited 10 minutes. I tried accessing it at 192.168.1.1 while it was wired to my PC, but it wouldn't respond. So I plugged the belkin into my modem and accessed it wirelessly. Then, I followed the steps to set it as a repeater here. I then replugged my other router back in and plugged in the belkin repeater somewhere else. It shows up in the network connections, and I can connect to it. Although, I am unable access the internet. I've tried diagnosing it, but it just tells me to restart my modem, and that there is trouble with the connection to the access point, router, etc. I also reset my the computer's IP address to be obtained automatically when I finished setting up the repeater.
I have Time Warner Cable and the router connected to the modem is a WRT54GS flashed with DD-WRT
Thanks in advance.
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My, wireless router can be used as such as well, however if I remember when I read it right; the repeating function of it is limited to using it as a access point for another router that is further off if your using it wirelessly. So, you would most likely need another router.
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On April 25 2012 11:35 NekoFlandre wrote: My, wireless router can be used as such as well, however if I remember when I read it right; the repeating function of it is limited to using it as a access point for another router that is further off if your using it wirelessly. So, you would most likely need another router.
Ah yeah, not sure if I edited it fast enough, but I meant to say I'm using a linksys WRT54GS connected to my cable modem to broadcast wirelessly and am trying to repeat it with my belkin router.
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On April 25 2012 12:04 PoopLord wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 11:35 NekoFlandre wrote: My, wireless router can be used as such as well, however if I remember when I read it right; the repeating function of it is limited to using it as a access point for another router that is further off if your using it wirelessly. So, you would most likely need another router. Ah yeah, not sure if I edited it fast enough, but I meant to say I'm using a linksys WRT54GS connected to my cable modem to broadcast wirelessly and am trying to repeat it with my belkin router.
There are probably a couple dozen things that could cause this, but I'm actually pretty confused as to why you are attempting this. Can you tell us more about the setup? Why are you trying to repeat a wireless signal? Is there some reason you can't run Ethernet?
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On April 25 2012 14:01 TheToast wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 12:04 PoopLord wrote:On April 25 2012 11:35 NekoFlandre wrote: My, wireless router can be used as such as well, however if I remember when I read it right; the repeating function of it is limited to using it as a access point for another router that is further off if your using it wirelessly. So, you would most likely need another router. Ah yeah, not sure if I edited it fast enough, but I meant to say I'm using a linksys WRT54GS connected to my cable modem to broadcast wirelessly and am trying to repeat it with my belkin router. There are probably a couple dozen things that could cause this, but I'm actually pretty confused as to why you are attempting this. Can you tell us more about the setup? Why are you trying to repeat a wireless signal? Is there some reason you can't run Ethernet?
I'm trying to repeat it because the my dad's computer's signal is poor from a floor above and on the opposite end of the house from the router. I didn't want to run a long cable lol.
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Repeating functions generally only work when you have two routers using the same hardware and firmware. It's important to know if you have broadcom or atheros-based hardware, because not only are they highly incompatible, they have completely different features. I have one of each, and did a repeater setup for a while. IIRC I used DD-WRT to create a virtual interface, which then broadcast a new SSID
Something like this: router 1 is connected to the modem. it broadcasts a signal called "dlink" at 192.168.1.1 router 2 is connected at 192.168.1.x to the "dlink" SSID on eth0 or w/e the hardware interface is called eth0 is bridged to a new virtual interface the virtual interface is a SSID called "repeater" at 192.168.2.1 computer 1 connects to "repeater" and is assigned 192.168.2.x
I'll look back at this later because I have a test in the morning. this should hopefully get you started tho
edit: if you have verizon i recommend you look into something like THIS (link). Basically, if your modem provides a MOCA signal (FIOS modems do) then you can get an ethernet-quality connection through the coax plug in every room. I got my adaptor for free from the verizon tech
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On April 25 2012 14:11 PoopLord wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 14:01 TheToast wrote:On April 25 2012 12:04 PoopLord wrote:On April 25 2012 11:35 NekoFlandre wrote: My, wireless router can be used as such as well, however if I remember when I read it right; the repeating function of it is limited to using it as a access point for another router that is further off if your using it wirelessly. So, you would most likely need another router. Ah yeah, not sure if I edited it fast enough, but I meant to say I'm using a linksys WRT54GS connected to my cable modem to broadcast wirelessly and am trying to repeat it with my belkin router. There are probably a couple dozen things that could cause this, but I'm actually pretty confused as to why you are attempting this. Can you tell us more about the setup? Why are you trying to repeat a wireless signal? Is there some reason you can't run Ethernet? I'm trying to repeat it because the my dad's computer's signal is poor from a floor above and on the opposite end of the house from the router. I didn't want to run a long cable lol.
How big is the house? 802.11n should be able to easily reach from one end of a typical home to the other. You were originally using the Belkin for a wireless connection, right? Does your dad's computer have a wifi receiver capable of doing 802.11n? If not, because the Belkin doesn't appear to support 802.11g, it will actually revert to 802.11b; which, in short, is really shitty.
Have you tried it with just the linksys to see what type of connection you get?
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On April 25 2012 14:26 TheToast wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 14:11 PoopLord wrote:On April 25 2012 14:01 TheToast wrote:On April 25 2012 12:04 PoopLord wrote:On April 25 2012 11:35 NekoFlandre wrote: My, wireless router can be used as such as well, however if I remember when I read it right; the repeating function of it is limited to using it as a access point for another router that is further off if your using it wirelessly. So, you would most likely need another router. Ah yeah, not sure if I edited it fast enough, but I meant to say I'm using a linksys WRT54GS connected to my cable modem to broadcast wirelessly and am trying to repeat it with my belkin router. There are probably a couple dozen things that could cause this, but I'm actually pretty confused as to why you are attempting this. Can you tell us more about the setup? Why are you trying to repeat a wireless signal? Is there some reason you can't run Ethernet? I'm trying to repeat it because the my dad's computer's signal is poor from a floor above and on the opposite end of the house from the router. I didn't want to run a long cable lol. How big is the house? 802.11n should be able to easily reach from one end of a typical home to the other. You were originally using the Belkin for a wireless connection, right? Does your dad's computer have a wifi receiver capable of doing 802.11n? If not, because the Belkin doesn't appear to support 802.11g, it will actually revert to 802.11b; which, in short, is really shitty. Have you tried it with just the linksys to see what type of connection you get? I originally used the linksys WRT54GS for wi-fi. Just checked and my dad's adapter doesn't support 802.11n lol. The box for the Belkin router says it supports 802.11g though . Regardless, I'll try using the belkin router for wi-fi and a 802.11n adapter tomorrow. Too late now. Thanks!
On April 25 2012 14:23 totii wrote:Repeating functions generally only work when you have two routers using the same hardware and firmware. It's important to know if you have broadcom or atheros-based hardware, because not only are they highly incompatible, they have completely different features. I have one of each, and did a repeater setup for a while. IIRC I used DD-WRT to create a virtual interface, which then broadcast a new SSID Something like this: router 1 is connected to the modem. it broadcasts a signal called "dlink" at 192.168.1.1 router 2 is connected at 192.168.1.x to the "dlink" SSID on eth0 or w/e the hardware interface is called eth0 is bridged to a new virtual interface the virtual interface is a SSID called "repeater" at 192.168.2.1 computer 1 connects to "repeater" and is assigned 192.168.2.x I'll look back at this later because I have a test in the morning. this should hopefully get you started tho edit: if you have verizon i recommend you look into something like THIS (link). Basically, if your modem provides a MOCA signal (FIOS modems do) then you can get an ethernet-quality connection through the coax plug in every room. I got my adaptor for free from the verizon tech
Yeah, it's a broadcom router but probably different firmware I followed the directions for setting it up from the universal repeater article from dd-wrt. I set the repeater to have a different IP and matched the SSID's on the physical interface. Is the repeater supposed to broadcast both the physical and virtual SSID, though? I was confused when I saw my original SSID twice. The physical, repeated SSID was on an unsecured network, while the original and virtual one were secured like I set them to. Thanks!
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On April 25 2012 14:35 PoopLord wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 14:26 TheToast wrote:On April 25 2012 14:11 PoopLord wrote:On April 25 2012 14:01 TheToast wrote:On April 25 2012 12:04 PoopLord wrote:On April 25 2012 11:35 NekoFlandre wrote: My, wireless router can be used as such as well, however if I remember when I read it right; the repeating function of it is limited to using it as a access point for another router that is further off if your using it wirelessly. So, you would most likely need another router. Ah yeah, not sure if I edited it fast enough, but I meant to say I'm using a linksys WRT54GS connected to my cable modem to broadcast wirelessly and am trying to repeat it with my belkin router. There are probably a couple dozen things that could cause this, but I'm actually pretty confused as to why you are attempting this. Can you tell us more about the setup? Why are you trying to repeat a wireless signal? Is there some reason you can't run Ethernet? I'm trying to repeat it because the my dad's computer's signal is poor from a floor above and on the opposite end of the house from the router. I didn't want to run a long cable lol. How big is the house? 802.11n should be able to easily reach from one end of a typical home to the other. You were originally using the Belkin for a wireless connection, right? Does your dad's computer have a wifi receiver capable of doing 802.11n? If not, because the Belkin doesn't appear to support 802.11g, it will actually revert to 802.11b; which, in short, is really shitty. Have you tried it with just the linksys to see what type of connection you get? I originally used the linksys WRT54GS for wi-fi. Just checked and my dad's adapter doesn't support 802.11n lol. The box for the Belkin router says it supports 802.11g though . Regardless, I'll try using the belkin router for wi-fi and a 802.11n adapter tomorrow. Too late now. Thanks!
Yeah, I'm actually not sure now. Belkin's website and documentation only mentions 802.11n, but both have pretty incomplete listings of the technical specs. I was actually looking at the product page on Amazon which lists only n and b, though I see Cnet shows it as b/g/n which I am assuming is correct.
Regardless, 802.11n is rated for a much larger indoor and outdoor range than 802.11g, so using a wifi card capable of the n standard may just solve the issue. If that doesn't work, I think running a 50ft cat5e cable is would be a much better solution than trying to repeat a wireless signal.
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Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 14:23 totii wrote:Repeating functions generally only work when you have two routers using the same hardware and firmware. It's important to know if you have broadcom or atheros-based hardware, because not only are they highly incompatible, they have completely different features. I have one of each, and did a repeater setup for a while. IIRC I used DD-WRT to create a virtual interface, which then broadcast a new SSID Something like this: router 1 is connected to the modem. it broadcasts a signal called "dlink" at 192.168.1.1 router 2 is connected at 192.168.1.x to the "dlink" SSID on eth0 or w/e the hardware interface is called eth0 is bridged to a new virtual interface the virtual interface is a SSID called "repeater" at 192.168.2.1 computer 1 connects to "repeater" and is assigned 192.168.2.x I'll look back at this later because I have a test in the morning. this should hopefully get you started tho edit: if you have verizon i recommend you look into something like THIS (link). Basically, if your modem provides a MOCA signal (FIOS modems do) then you can get an ethernet-quality connection through the coax plug in every room. I got my adaptor for free from the verizon tech Yeah, it's a broadcom router but probably different firmware I followed the directions for setting it up from the universal repeater article from dd-wrt. I set the repeater to have a different IP and matched the SSID's on the physical interface. Is the repeater supposed to broadcast both the physical and virtual SSID, though? I was confused when I saw my original SSID twice. The physical, repeated SSID was on an unsecured network, while the original and virtual one were secured like I set them to. Thanks!
Yes, you are basically doing a universal repeater setup, only instead of letting it connect to any AP in range, you're specifying the settings. I'm guessing you did something similar to this guide but you wanted to keep the same SSID. I'm pretty certain that is not possible. The only guaranteed way of doing that is with 2 routers of the same model, same firmware.
Try setting up 2 routers with 2 different SSID and 2 different DNS domains (ie: wifi1 distributes 192.168.1.x, wifi2 distributes 192.168.2.x) and no security. Once you have that bridge working, turn on WPA 1or2 on both and just use the same password. For this stage of testing, I recommend you get your settings in place, save them but DON'T reset, and download a backup of those settings so you can hard reset and easily restore your work.
Just a few more notes on this: to maximize your signal, avoid line of sight obstructions between everything. If you have to go through a wall or floor, go straight through (imagine a rectangle with sides 3"x4". if you pass through at a 30degree angle you would go through 5" of material instead of the 3". it adds up). Also, because one of your routers will be repeating, your wifi latency will effectively double, because of the middle-man
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On April 26 2012 01:57 totii wrote:Yes, you are basically doing a universal repeater setup, only instead of letting it connect to any AP in range, you're specifying the settings. I'm guessing you did something similar to this guide but you wanted to keep the same SSID. I'm pretty certain that is not possible. The only guaranteed way of doing that is with 2 routers of the same model, same firmware. Try setting up 2 routers with 2 different SSID and 2 different DNS domains (ie: wifi1 distributes 192.168.1.x, wifi2 distributes 192.168.2.x) and no security. Once you have that bridge working, turn on WPA 1or2 on both and just use the same password. For this stage of testing, I recommend you get your settings in place, save them but DON'T reset, and download a backup of those settings so you can hard reset and easily restore your work.
Yeah I actually followed those steps exactly from that wiki guide. I was confused seeing both the physical and virtual SSID being broadcasted. I tried the 2 different SSID/domains but still failed. Just tried setting it to wireless g only and it still didn't work. Reflashed everything and did everything again just for the sake of making sure it was done accurately but to no avail. Troubleshooting the problem gave me a message that the DNS server is experiencing problems.
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Edit: Oops. I`ll post this is another thread so I don`t derail this one.
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I finally got around to trying to use the router as an access point connected to the modem and it still wouldn't connect to the internet. Do you think it's a hardware problem or a problem with the firmware?
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