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I'm getting a ridiculous amount of stuttering from my prebuilt PC I just bought when the GPU is involved; due to my complete and utter ineptitude, I've been running integrated graphics for all my games for a week and a half and have been getting okay-to-good performance on rust, MKX and some other steam games. when I switch my hdmi from the motherboard to my video card and try to play rust, youtube and even the sample videos on windows 7, this issue comes up where clearly, without my overall FPS dropping much, the way frames are being handled is all fucked up. videos simply skip loads of frames every second or two, where in rust I can't pivot my view smoothly or view players/animals without them looking like they're micro-teleporting around the landscape.
Solutions and measures conducted:
I've played with every nvidia setting and two different nvidia driver versions to try and get rust up to speed, but that's all I really feel safe doing. reading through previous iterations of this thread I had the idea that it was a network issue, but I'm watching a high quality MKX stream right now with no problems at all.
System specs
Windows 7 Professional AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Nvidia GeForce GTX 750ti 2GB 16GB DDR3 1600MHz 2TB HD CYBERPOWERPC 600 Watt 80+ Power Supply
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If you haven't already done so, change the bit depth and sample rate Windows 7 uses. The default is something like 24bit 44100hz and the lowest you can make it is 16bit 44100hz.
Showed here: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/973133
I just read that this might not actually do anything, though.
In regards to your CPU, I don't think the lack of level 3 cache helps.
Have you tried using a VGA/DVI cable instead of HDMI? What soundcard/onboard sound chip do you have?
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I don't think that audio sample rate thing (or l3 cache; that architecture works more efficiently without it since the l3 was too slow to be useful previously) would have any impact for fixing stutter issues with video playback and game rendering tbh
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don't really know how to read this latency checker but I'm averaging ~200 with spikes up to 2000+ every 10-15 seconds at least. I can mess around in the device manager like it says some time in the afternoon tomorrow, don't have any more time tonight.
haven't tried a VGA cable, I can probably dig one up tomorrow; I'm using the onboard sound card on the motherboard, which is (probably) a realtek ALC887.
edit: went to power down the comp and got my second instance of a BSOD that reads "clock interrupt was not received on a secondary processor within the allocated time interval". both times it's been when I go to shut it down.
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I was having this same issue and I changed my Power Options in Control Panel to "Performance" and don't have hiccups anymore and retain continous massive FPS.
I did download Latencymon and had ~120 average after an hour test.
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The spikes are not good, but they might go away if you set windows power plan to performance. Sometimes the nvidia driver can cause them - in which case doing a full removal from safe mode and reinstall can help. DPC latency problems can cause stuttering, dropped frames in video, microstuttering and performance issues in games etc - when mine were at their worst, one of my games were running far worse than they would with constant 60fps (just crazy stuttering and freezing) - even though i can usually run it at 1000-3000FPS on 144hz screen.
here's my dpc latency now (fixed up and working properly) - 100-200 is fine, but spikes into the thousands (especially 5-10k+) can be very bad.
The BSOD is concerning for a stock system but i'm not sure why it would happen
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- turned power plan from balanced to high performance: got nothing from it - played with the device manager with dpclat on, repaired my realtek driver: eliminated most of the latency on the graph down to a 100-200 average, but the stuttering is still perfectly intact. - switched from HDMI to VGA: dpclat rose to about a 400-500 average with some sort of fucked up, screen tearing lag at one point that spiked over 3M, then settled down. stuttering still perfectly intact.
the inability to shut down the computer is getting consistent now as well, it's either the BSOD or a freeze on the "shutting down..." screen.
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Does your audio stutter as well?
I had an issue where videos were causing both audio+video to stutter.
Did some research and got a few different resolutions which one I tried (Windows Repair from Tweaking.com) which resolved it for a day or so. Issue came back. Saw quite a few individuals saying that the Realtek Audio was the culprit and some Windows Update overlapped the drivers and caused the issues.
Just downloaded the Realtek HD Audio Manager codecs/drivers and thus far it seems to have been resolved.
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^If it's a driver issue like that, it usually shows up on dpc latency and latencymon program will even point you to the exact driver~ very useful programs
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On May 04 2015 15:36 TheExile19 wrote: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Nvidia GeForce GTX 750ti 2GB
These are your 2 main problems. Replace them ASAP. I recommend getting an i5 4590 and EVGA GTX 970. And make sure to get an SSD. Preferably Samsung 850 EVO or one of the Crucials. I recommend Samsung 850 EVO because of the new 3D V-NAND technology.
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Any hardware should be able to run the desktop and play sample videos without big stuttering issues. The 750ti is more powerful than 7850k integrated at stock IIRC and s/he has issues with dedicated GPU but not integrated.
Blindly recommending much more expensive hardware wouldn't fix the issue (well, swapping out any hardware might fix/change it, but replacing everything because of what's probably a software issue is kinda silly)
also evga 970 is nothing special among 970's and there's no way i'm recommending a samsung SSD after having a dozen people purchase 840/840 evo's on my recommendation and then get fucked by samsung when the issues with them came up.
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On May 09 2015 22:53 Cyro wrote: Any hardware should be able to run the desktop and play sample videos without big stuttering issues. The 750ti is more powerful than 7850k integrated at stock IIRC and s/he has issues with dedicated GPU but not integrated.
Blindly recommending much more expensive hardware wouldn't fix the issue (well, swapping out any hardware might fix/change it, but replacing everything because of what's probably a software issue is kinda silly)
also evga 970 is nothing special among 970's and there's no way i'm recommending a samsung SSD after having a dozen people purchase 840/840 evo's on my recommendation and then get fucked by samsung when the issues with them came up.
As much as I hate Samsung, the 850 EVOs are the fastest drives and there are no reported problems with them. I noticed a HUGE difference between my new 850 EVO (got the 250GB) and my Crucial MX100.
The Samsung 840 EVOs sucked, I agree.
I recommend EVGA because they are usually higher quality than MSI, and cheaper than Asus/Gigabyte, while offering identical performance compared to them.
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There are several reasons that other cards are better but i won't derail thread any more here
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On May 09 2015 22:07 RapidTiger wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2015 15:36 TheExile19 wrote: AMD A10-7850K 3.7GHz Nvidia GeForce GTX 750ti 2GB
These are your 2 main problems. Replace them ASAP. I recommend getting an i5 4590 and EVGA GTX 970. And make sure to get an SSD. Preferably Samsung 850 EVO or one of the Crucials. I recommend Samsung 850 EVO because of the new 3D V-NAND technology. TIL you need an ssd and high end gpu to watch videos.
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Take the plunge. Just reformat. If that dont fix it,cry.
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