On September 26 2012 04:57 MrMedic wrote:
Koreans will destroy this.
Koreans will destroy this.
yeah just like they destroyed berkeley right?
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Artifex Magnus
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On September 26 2012 04:57 MrMedic wrote: Koreans will destroy this. yeah just like they destroyed berkeley right? | ||
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Artifex Magnus
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On September 26 2012 05:01 Alryk wrote: This is crazy. Would be nice to see the prize pool a little more even (20,000 first place?) because we're all college kids and the more wealth spread around the better, but nonetheless, this is amazing! Big numbers attract sponsors and viewers. And keep in mind each team has 6-10 people on their main competitive roster. | ||
Alryk
United States2718 Posts
On September 26 2012 04:58 Artifex Magnus wrote: yeah just like they destroyed berkeley right? Berkely won iirc. Suppy beat polt. On September 26 2012 05:06 Artifex Magnus wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2012 05:01 Alryk wrote: This is crazy. Would be nice to see the prize pool a little more even (20,000 first place?) because we're all college kids and the more wealth spread around the better, but nonetheless, this is amazing! Big numbers attract sponsors and viewers. And keep in mind each team has 6-10 people on their main competitive roster. That's why you promote the 182k prize pool, and not numbers. But that 6-10 thing goes both ways, you'd be splitting 500$ 6-10 ways, which isn't really much. Better imo: 1st: 20k 2nd: 15k 3rd: 10k 4th: 5k 5-8: 2.5k 9-16: 1.5k 17-32: ~675$ If I did my math right, it comes out to about the same. And still, 20k would be at least 2k per person for first place, and that's assuming ten players. It's still definitely a large amount, and twice as many people are benefiting in this scenario. We're (hopefully) all college kids, I think more people should be benefiting than less, although obviously I don't decide this, and I do agree that a bigger first prize can certainly grab more viewers. But still, it's a very high end prize pool for an organization of college kids But I can definitely see why they'd do it. | ||
Artifex Magnus
United States75 Posts
On September 26 2012 05:08 Alryk wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2012 04:58 Artifex Magnus wrote: On September 26 2012 04:57 MrMedic wrote: Koreans will destroy this. yeah just like they destroyed berkeley right? Berkely won iirc. Suppy beat polt. Show nested quote + On September 26 2012 05:06 Artifex Magnus wrote: On September 26 2012 05:01 Alryk wrote: This is crazy. Would be nice to see the prize pool a little more even (20,000 first place?) because we're all college kids and the more wealth spread around the better, but nonetheless, this is amazing! Big numbers attract sponsors and viewers. And keep in mind each team has 6-10 people on their main competitive roster. That's why you promote the 182k prize pool, and not numbers. But that 6-10 thing goes both ways, you'd be splitting 500$ 6-10 ways, which isn't really much. Better imo: 1st: 20k 2nd: 15k 3rd: 10k 4th: 5k 5-8: 2.5k 9-16: 1.5k 17-32: ~675$ If I did my math right, it comes out to about the same. And still, 20k would be at least 2k per person for first place, and that's assuming ten players. It's still definitely a large amount, and twice as many people are benefiting in this scenario. We're (hopefully) all college kids, I think more people should be benefiting than less, although obviously I don't decide this, and I do agree that a bigger first prize can certainly grab more viewers. But still, it's a very high end prize pool for an organization of college kids But I can definitely see why they'd do it. The first quote was sarcasm.. I know berkeley won, and Suppy only had two win two matches to do so. Korean universities are nothing to be feared. Respected, as much as we respect our North American colleagues, but they are not GSTL contenders we're talking about. As far as the second part, I think the big first prize is the big number to look at. You want to hype the finals with, 'competing for 40,000' which is essentially a GSL Code S first place finish. Big numbers big numbers big numbers. | ||
laLAlA[uC]
Canada963 Posts
On September 26 2012 04:59 Serimek wrote: Isn't Polt at University ? And he lost to Berkley | ||
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On September 26 2012 05:16 Artifex Magnus wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2012 05:08 Alryk wrote: On September 26 2012 04:58 Artifex Magnus wrote: On September 26 2012 04:57 MrMedic wrote: Koreans will destroy this. yeah just like they destroyed berkeley right? Berkely won iirc. Suppy beat polt. On September 26 2012 05:06 Artifex Magnus wrote: On September 26 2012 05:01 Alryk wrote: This is crazy. Would be nice to see the prize pool a little more even (20,000 first place?) because we're all college kids and the more wealth spread around the better, but nonetheless, this is amazing! Big numbers attract sponsors and viewers. And keep in mind each team has 6-10 people on their main competitive roster. That's why you promote the 182k prize pool, and not numbers. But that 6-10 thing goes both ways, you'd be splitting 500$ 6-10 ways, which isn't really much. Better imo: 1st: 20k 2nd: 15k 3rd: 10k 4th: 5k 5-8: 2.5k 9-16: 1.5k 17-32: ~675$ If I did my math right, it comes out to about the same. And still, 20k would be at least 2k per person for first place, and that's assuming ten players. It's still definitely a large amount, and twice as many people are benefiting in this scenario. We're (hopefully) all college kids, I think more people should be benefiting than less, although obviously I don't decide this, and I do agree that a bigger first prize can certainly grab more viewers. But still, it's a very high end prize pool for an organization of college kids But I can definitely see why they'd do it. The first quote was sarcasm.. I know berkeley won, and Suppy only had two win two matches to do so. Korean universities are nothing to be feared. Respected, as much as we respect our North American colleagues, but they are not GSTL contenders we're talking about. As far as the second part, I think the big first prize is the big number to look at. You want to hype the finals with, 'competing for 40,000' which is essentially a GSL Code S first place finish. Big numbers big numbers big numbers. Oh haha my bad. I completely missed your sarcasm xD. Yeah. From a marketing standpoint I completely understand why they have the prize pool set up how they do. It's just disappointing from a poor college kid point of view. Although there are still scholarships Yeah the Korean universities aren't necessarily ahead. The interesting thing is all the best Korean players actually quit school. I'm more worried about the universities with European players who aren't out yet (thank god Stephano is full time right now haha) How are the 5-16 places being found? If the top eu Asia and two na teams go to the live finals, where do the other places get found? It would be confusing (although not impossible, but a scheduling nightmare) to seed all the eu Asia and na teams into playoffs but only take the top from each. In which case, does EACH region get a 5-8 prize pool? While the 1-4 is shared? In that case, the prize pool makes more sense. And I don't want to sound like I'm criticizing csl about the prizes, what they've done is absolutely insane and huge for growing a huge college scene. | ||
Artifex Magnus
United States75 Posts
On September 26 2012 05:36 Alryk wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2012 05:16 Artifex Magnus wrote: On September 26 2012 05:08 Alryk wrote: On September 26 2012 04:58 Artifex Magnus wrote: On September 26 2012 04:57 MrMedic wrote: Koreans will destroy this. yeah just like they destroyed berkeley right? Berkely won iirc. Suppy beat polt. On September 26 2012 05:06 Artifex Magnus wrote: On September 26 2012 05:01 Alryk wrote: This is crazy. Would be nice to see the prize pool a little more even (20,000 first place?) because we're all college kids and the more wealth spread around the better, but nonetheless, this is amazing! Big numbers attract sponsors and viewers. And keep in mind each team has 6-10 people on their main competitive roster. That's why you promote the 182k prize pool, and not numbers. But that 6-10 thing goes both ways, you'd be splitting 500$ 6-10 ways, which isn't really much. Better imo: 1st: 20k 2nd: 15k 3rd: 10k 4th: 5k 5-8: 2.5k 9-16: 1.5k 17-32: ~675$ If I did my math right, it comes out to about the same. And still, 20k would be at least 2k per person for first place, and that's assuming ten players. It's still definitely a large amount, and twice as many people are benefiting in this scenario. We're (hopefully) all college kids, I think more people should be benefiting than less, although obviously I don't decide this, and I do agree that a bigger first prize can certainly grab more viewers. But still, it's a very high end prize pool for an organization of college kids But I can definitely see why they'd do it. The first quote was sarcasm.. I know berkeley won, and Suppy only had two win two matches to do so. Korean universities are nothing to be feared. Respected, as much as we respect our North American colleagues, but they are not GSTL contenders we're talking about. As far as the second part, I think the big first prize is the big number to look at. You want to hype the finals with, 'competing for 40,000' which is essentially a GSL Code S first place finish. Big numbers big numbers big numbers. Oh haha my bad. I completely missed your sarcasm xD. Yeah. From a marketing standpoint I completely understand why they have the prize pool set up how they do. It's just disappointing from a poor college kid point of view. Although there are still scholarships Yeah the Korean universities aren't necessarily ahead. The interesting thing is all the best Korean players actually quit school. I'm more worried about the universities with European players who aren't out yet (thank god Stephano is full time right now haha) How are the 5-16 places being found? If the top eu Asia and two na teams go to the live finals, where do the other places get found? It would be confusing (although not impossible, but a scheduling nightmare) to seed all the eu Asia and na teams into playoffs but only take the top from each. In which case, does EACH region get a 5-8 prize pool? While the 1-4 is shared? In that case, the prize pool makes more sense. And I don't want to sound like I'm criticizing csl about the prizes, what they've done is absolutely insane and huge for growing a huge college scene. As far as places 5-16, I'd imagine they'll hold those playoffs online. | ||
Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On September 26 2012 05:36 Alryk wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2012 05:16 Artifex Magnus wrote: On September 26 2012 05:08 Alryk wrote: On September 26 2012 04:58 Artifex Magnus wrote: On September 26 2012 04:57 MrMedic wrote: Koreans will destroy this. yeah just like they destroyed berkeley right? Berkely won iirc. Suppy beat polt. On September 26 2012 05:06 Artifex Magnus wrote: On September 26 2012 05:01 Alryk wrote: This is crazy. Would be nice to see the prize pool a little more even (20,000 first place?) because we're all college kids and the more wealth spread around the better, but nonetheless, this is amazing! Big numbers attract sponsors and viewers. And keep in mind each team has 6-10 people on their main competitive roster. That's why you promote the 182k prize pool, and not numbers. But that 6-10 thing goes both ways, you'd be splitting 500$ 6-10 ways, which isn't really much. Better imo: 1st: 20k 2nd: 15k 3rd: 10k 4th: 5k 5-8: 2.5k 9-16: 1.5k 17-32: ~675$ If I did my math right, it comes out to about the same. And still, 20k would be at least 2k per person for first place, and that's assuming ten players. It's still definitely a large amount, and twice as many people are benefiting in this scenario. We're (hopefully) all college kids, I think more people should be benefiting than less, although obviously I don't decide this, and I do agree that a bigger first prize can certainly grab more viewers. But still, it's a very high end prize pool for an organization of college kids But I can definitely see why they'd do it. The first quote was sarcasm.. I know berkeley won, and Suppy only had two win two matches to do so. Korean universities are nothing to be feared. Respected, as much as we respect our North American colleagues, but they are not GSTL contenders we're talking about. As far as the second part, I think the big first prize is the big number to look at. You want to hype the finals with, 'competing for 40,000' which is essentially a GSL Code S first place finish. Big numbers big numbers big numbers. Oh haha my bad. I completely missed your sarcasm xD. Yeah. From a marketing standpoint I completely understand why they have the prize pool set up how they do. It's just disappointing from a poor college kid point of view. Although there are still scholarships Yeah the Korean universities aren't necessarily ahead. The interesting thing is all the best Korean players actually quit school. I'm more worried about the universities with European players who aren't out yet (thank god Stephano is full time right now haha) How are the 5-16 places being found? If the top eu Asia and two na teams go to the live finals, where do the other places get found? It would be confusing (although not impossible, but a scheduling nightmare) to seed all the eu Asia and na teams into playoffs but only take the top from each. In which case, does EACH region get a 5-8 prize pool? While the 1-4 is shared? In that case, the prize pool makes more sense. And I don't want to sound like I'm criticizing csl about the prizes, what they've done is absolutely insane and huge for growing a huge college scene. Group stage --> single elim bracket playoffs. 5-16 teams are: 2nd - 4th from EU 2nd - 4th from Asia 3rd - 8th from NA | ||
Alryk
United States2718 Posts
Same could go for America or Asia, although America would obviously be top two. But that's why I think different playoffs for each region make more sense, which would also bring the prize pool up to 100k plus or so. I 99k if you have three sets of "5-16" players and more if there are regional prizes for 3 + 4 place. Edit:tyvm xeris! | ||
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