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ProTech
United States427 Posts
If anyone is interested in high level 2v2 matches, my stream is the place to be! just check out the live stream tab | ||
Rantech
Chile525 Posts
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
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tehredbanditt
103 Posts
I'm 3950 1v1 zerg masters, top 200 for months. We play our Z/Z very similiar to 1v1 style. If you're looking to improve your game, either for 2v2 or 1v1, check out protech's stream. If you can handle his *sometimes* bad music taste watching/hearing us play is a great way to improve your game. Not to mention our humourous attitudes towards the game can be entertaining. | ||
iggyzizzle
United States28 Posts
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tehredbanditt
103 Posts
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RushBoxer!
United States173 Posts
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mynhauzen
Russian Federation30 Posts
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Xolo
Canada107 Posts
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runforyourllife
United States73 Posts
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
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Scrubington
Canada475 Posts
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Day[9]
United States7366 Posts
Keep rocking. I shall tune into your stream sometime ^___^ | ||
bLuR
Canada625 Posts
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BadWolf0
United States300 Posts
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iggyzizzle
United States28 Posts
On April 29 2011 07:44 bLuR wrote: a badmannered 2v2 allstar who cheeses everygame and talks shit when he wins or loses... He shit talked me and my ally pretty hard when we played him and drgnzerg twice in a row, but he's still good. :B | ||
peekn
United States1152 Posts
On March 19 2011 13:10 Tropics wrote: if you wanna see some turbo bm from a baddie watch this stream Hahaha "turbo bm" I busted out laughing in my chair when I read that, well done sir. And a high level 2v2 stream should bring color to the sea of 1v1 streamers. | ||
Headlines
United States482 Posts
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VoirDire
Sweden1923 Posts
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
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ckcornflake
United States53 Posts
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cubert
Russian Federation94 Posts
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linduxed
Sweden111 Posts
They can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=216725 | ||
dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
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Leeprechaun
United States5 Posts
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
Ty bro... hope to catch u soon! Mario Z. (Koloro) | ||
ZweiGaming
Canada348 Posts
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
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lollyz
218 Posts
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:13 lollyz wrote: Watch the stream today, very bad mannered player. Play in ladder and always say : " EZ EZ EZ WHY YOU SO EZ" spam the other player all time. I don't know why this stream is featured, really. e z e z y u so e z? | ||
Xardean
United States104 Posts
ProTech I love your taste in techno and such ^^ keep on keeping on | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:13 lollyz wrote: Watch the stream today, very bad mannered player. Play in ladder and always say : " EZ EZ EZ WHY YOU SO EZ" spam the other player all time. I don't know why this stream is featured, really. maybe if you watched the stream for more than 5 minutes you would have known protech plays non serious 1v1/team games for the enjoyment of the stream chat (ie he asks what he should do each game and people give suggestions and he does it). He does this since his MMR is too high so 2v2 queues take ~20-30 minutes on both EU and US and people get bored of waiting so much. Instead of watching it you came in and started ranting for no reason about it while everyone else was enjoying it so you were pushed off your soapbox via a time out. Now stop being so BM and get over it and subscribe to protech and enjoy high level 2v2's as well as a broadcaster that interacts with his fans and mixes serious as well as non serious games up for an overall enjoyable experience. | ||
n0ave
180 Posts
90% of the time he plays random game, and he just flames/trolls/annoys his team mates. I understand that he is a high 2v2 player, but then he should play what he was featured on, not this trolling bullshit. People really find this funny and entertaining, a pro sc2 player fighting silver/gold players? Also he flames as much as he can, while not microing/macroing he just talks crap. Who ever featured this dude, should at least check what he featured. | ||
hXc Chris
United States25 Posts
Get this nonsense off the TL front page. | ||
spapa13
United States7 Posts
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qkrtncu
Korea (South)11 Posts
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
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Kooun
Canada260 Posts
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qkrtncu
Korea (South)11 Posts
On July 03 2011 13:00 Ruscour wrote: To everyone whining about casual/troll matches and bad manners, pretty sure Destiny is a featured streamer too...ze hate is dumb. I am pretty sure Destiny and protech are from two completly different caliber | ||
Bargorf
United States23 Posts
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On July 03 2011 13:19 qkrtncu wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2011 13:00 Ruscour wrote: To everyone whining about casual/troll matches and bad manners, pretty sure Destiny is a featured streamer too...ze hate is dumb. I am pretty sure Destiny and protech are from two completly different caliber Destiny was featured (and popular) long before he was any good. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 03 2011 13:19 qkrtncu wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2011 13:00 Ruscour wrote: To everyone whining about casual/troll matches and bad manners, pretty sure Destiny is a featured streamer too...ze hate is dumb. I am pretty sure Destiny and protech are from two completly different caliber just so TL knows, this is a confirmed hacker in your database. Qkrt = Daesung. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote: Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured. pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time | ||
Bargorf
United States23 Posts
On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote: Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured. pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 03 2011 16:03 Bargorf wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote: Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured. pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers. pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do | ||
Bargorf
United States23 Posts
On July 03 2011 16:07 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2011 16:03 Bargorf wrote: On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote: Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured. pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers. pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do I totally agree with you on that. Not everyone thinks the same way I do, but I'm sure the majority of viewers look for a streamer who doesn't act like a child. Sure, a good troll is funny every now and then, but when your stream contains the frequent "trolling" (more like flaming) that it does currently, I find it hard to believe that you're helping your viewer count. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 03 2011 16:16 Bargorf wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2011 16:07 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 16:03 Bargorf wrote: On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote: Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured. pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers. pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do I totally agree with you on that. Not everyone thinks the same way I do, but I'm sure the majority of viewers look for a streamer who doesn't act like a child. Sure, a good troll is funny every now and then, but when your stream contains the frequent "trolling" (more like flaming) that it does currently, I find it hard to believe that you're helping your viewer count. I think you're mad. | ||
Bargorf
United States23 Posts
On July 03 2011 16:27 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2011 16:16 Bargorf wrote: On July 03 2011 16:07 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 16:03 Bargorf wrote: On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote: Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured. pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers. pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do I totally agree with you on that. Not everyone thinks the same way I do, but I'm sure the majority of viewers look for a streamer who doesn't act like a child. Sure, a good troll is funny every now and then, but when your stream contains the frequent "trolling" (more like flaming) that it does currently, I find it hard to believe that you're helping your viewer count. I think you're mad. Well, if that's your response, I really have nothing more to say. Variations of "ur mad" tend to be what you say whenever you receive any sort of criticism and that phrase seems to be your concept of "trolling", thus proving my point. I wish you the best of luck in the future with your stream. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 03 2011 16:34 Bargorf wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2011 16:27 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 16:16 Bargorf wrote: On July 03 2011 16:07 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 16:03 Bargorf wrote: On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote: Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured. pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers. pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do I totally agree with you on that. Not everyone thinks the same way I do, but I'm sure the majority of viewers look for a streamer who doesn't act like a child. Sure, a good troll is funny every now and then, but when your stream contains the frequent "trolling" (more like flaming) that it does currently, I find it hard to believe that you're helping your viewer count. I think you're mad. Well, if that's your response, I really have nothing more to say. Variations of "ur mad" tend to be what you say whenever you receive any sort of criticism and that phrase seems to be your concept of "trolling", thus proving my point. I wish you the best of luck in the future with your stream. Someone takes my stream too personally. | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On July 03 2011 16:34 Bargorf wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2011 16:27 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 16:16 Bargorf wrote: On July 03 2011 16:07 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 16:03 Bargorf wrote: On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote: Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured. pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers. pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do I totally agree with you on that. Not everyone thinks the same way I do, but I'm sure the majority of viewers look for a streamer who doesn't act like a child. Sure, a good troll is funny every now and then, but when your stream contains the frequent "trolling" (more like flaming) that it does currently, I find it hard to believe that you're helping your viewer count. I think you're mad. Well, if that's your response, I really have nothing more to say. Variations of "ur mad" tend to be what you say whenever you receive any sort of criticism and that phrase seems to be your concept of "trolling", thus proving my point. I wish you the best of luck in the future with your stream. You writing "atleast the times I have been there. " kinda makes whatever point you have moot. Inbetween a block of 2s (yay 20-30 min waits) he takes votes basically all the time on what he should do, it is as simple as that and you can not argue since any regular will tell you the same thing. People like you that come in the stream for 10 minutes and get upset because he creeps the entire map or calls his opponents "eZ" after he does proxy mothership harass on probeline whether or not it works confuse me. Especially when you look at stream chat and see 100% of the people actually enjoying whatever troll he does. Why are you so sensitive over this? | ||
Bargorf
United States23 Posts
On July 03 2011 16:48 askTeivospy wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2011 16:34 Bargorf wrote: On July 03 2011 16:27 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 16:16 Bargorf wrote: On July 03 2011 16:07 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 16:03 Bargorf wrote: On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote: Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured. pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers. pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do I totally agree with you on that. Not everyone thinks the same way I do, but I'm sure the majority of viewers look for a streamer who doesn't act like a child. Sure, a good troll is funny every now and then, but when your stream contains the frequent "trolling" (more like flaming) that it does currently, I find it hard to believe that you're helping your viewer count. I think you're mad. Well, if that's your response, I really have nothing more to say. Variations of "ur mad" tend to be what you say whenever you receive any sort of criticism and that phrase seems to be your concept of "trolling", thus proving my point. I wish you the best of luck in the future with your stream. You writing "atleast the times I have been there. " kinda makes whatever point you have moot. Inbetween a block of 2s (yay 20-30 min waits) he takes votes basically all the time on what he should do, it is as simple as that and you can not argue since any regular will tell you the same thing. People like you that come in the stream for 10 minutes and get upset because he creeps the entire map or calls his opponents "eZ" after he does proxy mothership harass on probeline whether or not it works confuse me. Especially when you look at stream chat and see 100% of the people actually enjoying whatever troll he does. Why are you so sensitive over this? I won't argue with you there. If you're a regular and have seen him take polls inbetween games, then I am in the wrong and I am sorry. Also, you're absolutely right that his viewers thoroughly enjoy his troll sessions and find them entertaining, but even if that's true, it doesn't change the fact that he is a featured streamer. I think that a featured streamer should be one that actually deserves the position given to them, rather than someone who is ill-mannered towards his opponents (which is not just during troll sessions), and who is insensitve. And as for your last comment, I don't see how posting my opinion on a particular streamer denotes me as excessively sensitive. Either way, thanks for your comment and I apologize for making an assumption about the polls. | ||
r4pture
United States397 Posts
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nosk
United States21 Posts
On July 03 2011 17:05 Bargorf wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2011 16:48 askTeivospy wrote: On July 03 2011 16:34 Bargorf wrote: On July 03 2011 16:27 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 16:16 Bargorf wrote: On July 03 2011 16:07 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 16:03 Bargorf wrote: On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote: Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured. pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers. pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do I totally agree with you on that. Not everyone thinks the same way I do, but I'm sure the majority of viewers look for a streamer who doesn't act like a child. Sure, a good troll is funny every now and then, but when your stream contains the frequent "trolling" (more like flaming) that it does currently, I find it hard to believe that you're helping your viewer count. I think you're mad. Well, if that's your response, I really have nothing more to say. Variations of "ur mad" tend to be what you say whenever you receive any sort of criticism and that phrase seems to be your concept of "trolling", thus proving my point. I wish you the best of luck in the future with your stream. You writing "atleast the times I have been there. " kinda makes whatever point you have moot. Inbetween a block of 2s (yay 20-30 min waits) he takes votes basically all the time on what he should do, it is as simple as that and you can not argue since any regular will tell you the same thing. People like you that come in the stream for 10 minutes and get upset because he creeps the entire map or calls his opponents "eZ" after he does proxy mothership harass on probeline whether or not it works confuse me. Especially when you look at stream chat and see 100% of the people actually enjoying whatever troll he does. Why are you so sensitive over this? I won't argue with you there. If you're a regular and have seen him take polls inbetween games, then I am in the wrong and I am sorry. Also, you're absolutely right that his viewers thoroughly enjoy his troll sessions and find them entertaining, but even if that's true, it doesn't change the fact that he is a featured streamer. I think that a featured streamer should be one that actually deserves the position given to them, rather than someone who is ill-mannered towards his opponents (which is not just during troll sessions), and who is insensitve. And as for your last comment, I don't see how posting my opinion on a particular streamer denotes me as excessively sensitive. Either way, thanks for your comment and I apologize for making an assumption about the polls. I think you just have the whole "Featured Streamer" thing on too high a pedestal, bro. | ||
Shaylie
Denmark8 Posts
Furthermore i'd like to ask the people claiming its all bad... would you rather have a blank stream running instead of some seriously funny moments of trolling? ofc you wouldnt! | ||
RogerShah
Netherlands131 Posts
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Brutus
Netherlands284 Posts
On July 03 2011 23:05 RogerShah wrote: ProTech for sure is a skilled team game player and has an entertaining playstyle. However, his childish behaviour is really annoying. Always chatting with CAPS on, swearing to people and attacking teammates. Maybe it's my age (25), but I don't undestand why that's appealing to some. Same for me. Dude has skill, but I only watched a few games and I just don't like how he acts. | ||
Shaylie
Denmark8 Posts
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qkrtncu
Korea (South)11 Posts
On July 03 2011 15:44 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2011 13:19 qkrtncu wrote: On July 03 2011 13:00 Ruscour wrote: To everyone whining about casual/troll matches and bad manners, pretty sure Destiny is a featured streamer too...ze hate is dumb. I am pretty sure Destiny and protech are from two completly different caliber just so TL knows, this is a confirmed hacker in your database. Qkrt = Daesung. what are you talking about, can't you take a comment? | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 04 2011 13:45 qkrtncu wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2011 15:44 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 13:19 qkrtncu wrote: On July 03 2011 13:00 Ruscour wrote: To everyone whining about casual/troll matches and bad manners, pretty sure Destiny is a featured streamer too...ze hate is dumb. I am pretty sure Destiny and protech are from two completly different caliber just so TL knows, this is a confirmed hacker in your database. Qkrt = Daesung. what are you talking about, can't you take a comment? Not my fault you have to download your hacks from sorcery. | ||
runforyourllife
United States73 Posts
I used to be a big time fan back in the days when you had like 10-30 viewers, and when you were balling it up hardcore in 2v2 (not that you still arent), and i feel you were featured because of the high quality 2v2 games you brought but recently, ive been turned off by the trolling and stupid strategies you do on stream. Its your stream, and you have the right to do whatever you want, I'm just voicing my opinion as a viewer that what I enjoy most is top lvl 2v2 games. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
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Shameless
Netherlands349 Posts
On July 03 2011 23:05 RogerShah wrote: ProTech for sure is a skilled team game player and has an entertaining playstyle. However, his childish behaviour is really annoying. Always chatting with CAPS on, swearing to people and attacking teammates. Maybe it's my age (25), but I don't undestand why that's appealing to some. Totally agree, I even go as far to say this whole featuring him is maybe little bit to much, he obviously can't handle being in a spotlight and acting accordingly. | ||
Alaz
108 Posts
Nowadays its all crappy bronze league trolling and not worth featured service. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 04 2011 19:26 Alaz wrote: I agree. He got streamed after the whole select/optik zero high level 2v2s. Nowadays its all crappy bronze league trolling and not worth featured service. Honestly, you're all dumb. I stream 2v2 / 1v1's for 13+++ hours at a time. It's not my fault that you can't join and watch the stream when im playing serious game. You all just need to silence. | ||
BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On July 04 2011 19:45 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2011 19:26 Alaz wrote: I agree. He got streamed after the whole select/optik zero high level 2v2s. Nowadays its all crappy bronze league trolling and not worth featured service. Honestly, you're all dumb. I stream 2v2 / 1v1's for 13+++ hours at a time. It's not my fault that you can't join and watch the stream when im playing serious game. You all just need to silence. ^that attitude pretty sure alot people wont tune in anymore after you proved what they said is true. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 04 2011 20:24 BurningSera wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2011 19:45 ProTech wrote: On July 04 2011 19:26 Alaz wrote: I agree. He got streamed after the whole select/optik zero high level 2v2s. Nowadays its all crappy bronze league trolling and not worth featured service. Honestly, you're all dumb. I stream 2v2 / 1v1's for 13+++ hours at a time. It's not my fault that you can't join and watch the stream when im playing serious game. You all just need to silence. ^that attitude pretty sure alot people wont tune in anymore after you proved what they said is true. [_] <-- carecup is empty | ||
RizlaBLK
Canada7 Posts
I normally just watch when my favorite players are streaming but hardly anyone was tonight and I laughed at ProTechs stream for hours was some of the most amusing SC2 I've ever watched! 20+ barracks flying over to the enemies base, why does no one else do this? | ||
Alaz
108 Posts
On July 04 2011 19:45 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2011 19:26 Alaz wrote: I agree. He got streamed after the whole select/optik zero high level 2v2s. Nowadays its all crappy bronze league trolling and not worth featured service. Honestly, you're all dumb. I stream 2v2 / 1v1's for 13+++ hours at a time. It's not my fault that you can't join and watch the stream when im playing serious game. You all just need to silence. Insulting people on you're own stream thread, gjdm. | ||
Shaylie
Denmark8 Posts
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Kooun
Canada260 Posts
On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote: pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time On July 03 2011 16:07 ProTech wrote: pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do On July 03 2011 16:27 ProTech wrote: I think you're mad. On July 03 2011 16:46 ProTech wrote: Someone takes my stream too personally. On July 04 2011 19:45 ProTech wrote: Honestly, you're all dumb. I stream 2v2 / 1v1's for 13+++ hours at a time. It's not my fault that you can't join and watch the stream when im playing serious game. You all just need to silence. On July 04 2011 21:06 ProTech wrote: [_] <-- carecup is empty I believe the mods should demote his stream to non-featured. | ||
Shaylie
Denmark8 Posts
I believe you should go work on your bronze standing. | ||
Kooun
Canada260 Posts
No need . I believe you need work more than I do. This will be my last post on this thread. Cya | ||
Wheelyman
Canada53 Posts
On July 03 2011 17:05 Bargorf wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2011 16:48 askTeivospy wrote: On July 03 2011 16:34 Bargorf wrote: On July 03 2011 16:27 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 16:16 Bargorf wrote: On July 03 2011 16:07 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 16:03 Bargorf wrote: On July 03 2011 15:46 ProTech wrote: On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote: Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured. pretty sure i take a vote in my stream when it's troll time I'm pretty sure you don't, atleast the times I have been there. I'll admit that you are a good player with undeniable skill, but either way, your "troll time" is not funny and immature. When you're given the privledge of having a featured stream, you should atleast approach it in a more proffesional manner. I think there's a reason why you don't have more viewers. pretty sure not everyone thinks the same way you do I totally agree with you on that. Not everyone thinks the same way I do, but I'm sure the majority of viewers look for a streamer who doesn't act like a child. Sure, a good troll is funny every now and then, but when your stream contains the frequent "trolling" (more like flaming) that it does currently, I find it hard to believe that you're helping your viewer count. I think you're mad. Well, if that's your response, I really have nothing more to say. Variations of "ur mad" tend to be what you say whenever you receive any sort of criticism and that phrase seems to be your concept of "trolling", thus proving my point. I wish you the best of luck in the future with your stream. You writing "atleast the times I have been there. " kinda makes whatever point you have moot. Inbetween a block of 2s (yay 20-30 min waits) he takes votes basically all the time on what he should do, it is as simple as that and you can not argue since any regular will tell you the same thing. People like you that come in the stream for 10 minutes and get upset because he creeps the entire map or calls his opponents "eZ" after he does proxy mothership harass on probeline whether or not it works confuse me. Especially when you look at stream chat and see 100% of the people actually enjoying whatever troll he does. Why are you so sensitive over this? I won't argue with you there. If you're a regular and have seen him take polls inbetween games, then I am in the wrong and I am sorry. Also, you're absolutely right that his viewers thoroughly enjoy his troll sessions and find them entertaining, but even if that's true, it doesn't change the fact that he is a featured streamer. I think that a featured streamer should be one that actually deserves the position given to them, rather than someone who is ill-mannered towards his opponents (which is not just during troll sessions), and who is insensitve. And as for your last comment, I don't see how posting my opinion on a particular streamer denotes me as excessively sensitive. Either way, thanks for your comment and I apologize for making an assumption about the polls. I can't agree more with all those arguments you bring about the professionnalism required for a featured stream. Recently, he even bitched about LiquidRet being a fag player LIVE on his stream. Can't recall the exact date though... I mean, hell, he's featured on TL site and trash talking about a pro player in TL's roster... So mannered... I enjoyed watching his stream while it was less "popular" and not featured. Got banned from the chat without a mature conversation for expressing my opinion when he blamed hacking for losing when there were no evidence at all of hacking. It's not a matter of sensitivity. It's a matter of respect towards your viewers and opponents as a featured. We made our comments, I think it's mods' turn to check our complaints and act accordingly. EDIT : I found how to quote other users properly | ||
Shaylie
Denmark8 Posts
Lol i believe you dont even know what the fuck youre taking about but then again you are Canadian so nobody really cares. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
untamed
26 Posts
There are hundreds of other streams which has 'normal' boring 1v1s, what makes Protech quite popular is that its different, and I think some variety is sorely needed. That is why I think he's featured, and should remain so. | ||
Zidane
United States1683 Posts
He should stick to 2s, he can't cut it doing 1v1. Also pretty sure any semi serious 1s player who wants to switch to 2s would be better than him, I feel that TL featured him out of pity. Lets just see how much longer he can keep it up. | ||
untamed
26 Posts
Also he beat a few very serious 1s players in the PTSL a couple of weeks ago. | ||
Shameless
Netherlands349 Posts
When he loses in one of his so called "serious" games it is ALWAYS the other guy, he never makes any mistake, ever, at least that's what his usual reaction is. I can also confirm he was talking crap about Ret on his stream, so you get handed a nice spot on one of the biggest SC2 sites, and then start talking crap about one of their team members. Just my 2 copper for your care cup, grow up dude, i know 12 year olds that act more mature then you. | ||
Saicam
262 Posts
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Optional
Canada1 Post
On July 05 2011 17:32 untamed wrote: I cant remember the last time he BM'd in a serious game, but even if he did then Idra, Destiny and countless other streamers should be removed for BM? Also he beat a few very serious 1s players in the PTSL a couple of weeks ago. That may be true but most of them played like 15 team games unlike protech who has been playing thousands of games and they're almost on par as protech. After the lost in the PTSL, protech basically cried b/c of the shared based maps which they downvoted in their 2v2 ladder stream. Also, destiny and idra generally bm'd players that are from masters/GMs. From the post I saw in this thread and the stream I watched so far, Protech BM'd players in the bronze/silver league. I believe that's pretty low. EDIT: sorry, my english is bad. Please don't mind that. Thank you. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 05 2011 18:52 Shameless wrote: It doesn't matter if it's a serious game or not, people coming to this site can at least expect a certain level of manners when they click a featured stream, I personally love teamgames and that's why i tried to watch his stream, but he is just to full of himself to probably take any critisism. When he loses in one of his so called "serious" games it is ALWAYS the other guy, he never makes any mistake, ever, at least that's what his usual reaction is. I can also confirm he was talking crap about Ret on his stream, so you get handed a nice spot on one of the biggest SC2 sites, and then start talking crap about one of their team members. Just my 2 copper for your care cup, grow up dude, i know 12 year olds that act more mature then you. Are you serious? have you ever watched destiny's stream? | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
As for the PTSL, you talk about BM well we GG'd every single game unlike some people. So you need to get off me please. | ||
arl0rd
Netherlands1 Post
I think his stream provides something different from all other streams, considering he is the only one that does 2v2s, which is more entertaining for me to watch. | ||
rawbertson
Canada95 Posts
1. it is on all the time. more than any other streamer on here. 2. he has a personality i can relate to. 3. he is amazing at the game, some of the best micro i have ever seen. 4. so f***n funny 5. no other 2v2 streams out there 6. you actually get a voice in the chat there are not 10,000 ppl flooding the chat at all times | ||
Bargorf
United States23 Posts
On July 06 2011 08:53 ProTech wrote: The thing I can't understand is that, it's pretty obvious that everything that I do in 4v4 is just for comedy. I'm not being serious and anyone who takes it seriously just needs to leave the stream. As for the PTSL, you talk about BM well we GG'd every single game unlike some people. So you need to get off me please. I don't think the question is whether or not the BM is serious. It's pretty clear that the intention of your BM is to produce a comedic effect, and that you don't take 4v4 seriously. That is totally normal, but I feel that there are better ways to be funny other than typing childish, inflammatory comments in all-caps. Sure, there are plenty of people who find your BM humorous, as indicated by the commends in this thread. That being said, I feel that the majority of people who want to watch a stream, and a featured stream at that, don't want to see you spam "hack" or call your opponent a "Jew", which I've seen you do. I'm not insinuating that you stop your epic 4v4 trolling, but that you just take it down a notch and try to be more creative instead of inflammatory. This is just my honest opinion and I always wish the best for your stream. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 06 2011 10:16 Bargorf wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 08:53 ProTech wrote: The thing I can't understand is that, it's pretty obvious that everything that I do in 4v4 is just for comedy. I'm not being serious and anyone who takes it seriously just needs to leave the stream. As for the PTSL, you talk about BM well we GG'd every single game unlike some people. So you need to get off me please. I don't think the question is whether or not the BM is serious. It's pretty clear that the intention of your BM is to produce a comedic effect, and that you don't take 4v4 seriously. That is totally normal, but I feel that there are better ways to be funny other than typing childish, inflammatory comments in all-caps. Sure, there are plenty of people who find your BM humorous, as indicated by the commends in this thread. That being said, I feel that the majority of people who want to watch a stream, and a featured stream at that, don't want to see you spam "hack" or call your opponent a "Jew", which I've seen you do. I'm not insinuating that you stop your epic 4v4 trolling, but that you just take it down a notch and try to be more creative instead of inflammatory. This is just my honest opinion and I always wish the best for your stream. ok but you're attacking my stream and yet you're okay with all the other streams that clearly have more bad manner than mine. | ||
Bargorf
United States23 Posts
On July 06 2011 11:11 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 10:16 Bargorf wrote: On July 06 2011 08:53 ProTech wrote: The thing I can't understand is that, it's pretty obvious that everything that I do in 4v4 is just for comedy. I'm not being serious and anyone who takes it seriously just needs to leave the stream. As for the PTSL, you talk about BM well we GG'd every single game unlike some people. So you need to get off me please. I don't think the question is whether or not the BM is serious. It's pretty clear that the intention of your BM is to produce a comedic effect, and that you don't take 4v4 seriously. That is totally normal, but I feel that there are better ways to be funny other than typing childish, inflammatory comments in all-caps. Sure, there are plenty of people who find your BM humorous, as indicated by the commends in this thread. That being said, I feel that the majority of people who want to watch a stream, and a featured stream at that, don't want to see you spam "hack" or call your opponent a "Jew", which I've seen you do. I'm not insinuating that you stop your epic 4v4 trolling, but that you just take it down a notch and try to be more creative instead of inflammatory. This is just my honest opinion and I always wish the best for your stream. ok but you're attacking my stream and yet you're okay with all the other streams that clearly have more bad manner than mine. That's kind of a baseless comment. How are you in the position to know what I am and what I am not okay with? I absolutely don't condone BM on other featured streams, but the reason I am commenting on YOUR stream thread is because I think, out of all the featured streams, your stream contains the MOST inflammatory BM. If you honestly think that there are "all these other streams" that contain more BM than yours, you are very mistaken. To this comment you may argue, "oh, well, Destiny's stream has a lot of BM too and he's featured!" Yeah, Destiny does BM, but as I said before, there is a difference between the crude, childish, flaming comments that you "troll" your opponents with and what Destiny does. (not that I condone Destiny's behavior). Finally, my intention is not to "attack" your stream. It may seem that way, but my intentions are not malicious and I am purely speaking from a viewer standpoint. Being polite on stream will never have consequences, but by BMing, you take the risk of losing viewers. Why take that risk? | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On July 06 2011 11:41 Bargorf wrote: Finally, my intention is not to "attack" your stream. It may seem that way, but my intentions are not malicious and I am purely speaking from a viewer standpoint. Being polite on stream will never have consequences, but by BMing, you take the risk of losing viewers. Why take that risk? On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote: Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured. READ THIS and don't ignore it: No sane person wants to sit and watch 5-15 minute games (potentially versus well known/admitted hackers) after waiting for 20-30 minutes, usually 30 minutes. If Protech did this that would mean he would be losing a lot of potential viewers, so why take that risk? As for whether or not he should be BM (which he only is when he trolls), thats his choice. Personally I don't see anything wrong with it unless you just want to make it into an issue :| Also on the featured stream list right now I could 3 or 4 people (inc. protech) who I know are BM so stop acting like everyone but protech is nice. Seriously, its not a big deal :| Get off this mission you have against protech and start another mission, one where you email blizzard requesting they fix their 2v2 matchmaking system. Protech has posted for them to fix it on their forums or at least lower his MMR, but they delete post instead | ||
Bargorf
United States23 Posts
On July 06 2011 12:59 askTeivospy wrote: LOL? ok yes there is a difference in your head but only because you want there to be one. Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 11:41 Bargorf wrote: Finally, my intention is not to "attack" your stream. It may seem that way, but my intentions are not malicious and I am purely speaking from a viewer standpoint. Being polite on stream will never have consequences, but by BMing, you take the risk of losing viewers. Why take that risk? Show nested quote + On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote: Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured. READ THIS and don't ignore it: No sane person wants to sit and watch 5-15 minute games (potentially versus well known/admitted hackers) after waiting for 20-30 minutes, usually 30 minutes. If Protech did this that would mean he would be losing a lot of potential viewers, so why take that risk? As for whether or not he should be BM (which he only is when he trolls), thats his choice. Personally I don't see anything wrong with it unless you just want to make it into an issue :| Also on the featured stream list right now I could 3 or 4 people (inc. protech) who I know are BM so stop acting like everyone but protech is nice. Seriously, its not a big deal :| Get off this mission you have against protech and start another mission, one where you email blizzard requesting they fix their 2v2 matchmaking system. Protech has posted for them to fix it on their forums or at least lower his MMR, but they delete post instead First of all, as I've said numerous times, I'm not advocating that he doesn't troll, just that his trolling be not as inflammatory as it is now. I understand that people may not want to wait 20-30 minutes for a 2v2, and that 4v4 is often the answer, but why is it NECESSARY to be so inflammatory? As for my previous comments: Yes, I was attacking his stream in the beginning, because I couldn't believe that someone could find the type of BM that ProTech uses in his "troll" sessions as anything less than childish. Put simply, it's not funny. However, after reading some more comments in the thread (runforyourlife's is a good example), I realized that other viewers may feel the same way I do and perhaps enjoy the pro-level 2v2 he brings far more than his BM. That's where my comments made the transition. You're also blowing what I said previously out of proportion, in that I did not say that "everyone but ProTech is nice", I said that he has the greatest amount of BM out of the featured streamers, and THAT is why I am commenting. You are right, though, that I should get off this mission. It's pretty clear from the fact that ProTech can not even formulate his own responses and leaves a follower like you to do it for him, that he is too stubborn to make an adjustment. I'll stop commenting on this thread. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 06 2011 13:32 Bargorf wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 12:59 askTeivospy wrote: LOL? ok yes there is a difference in your head but only because you want there to be one. On July 06 2011 11:41 Bargorf wrote: Finally, my intention is not to "attack" your stream. It may seem that way, but my intentions are not malicious and I am purely speaking from a viewer standpoint. Being polite on stream will never have consequences, but by BMing, you take the risk of losing viewers. Why take that risk? On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote: Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured. READ THIS and don't ignore it: No sane person wants to sit and watch 5-15 minute games (potentially versus well known/admitted hackers) after waiting for 20-30 minutes, usually 30 minutes. If Protech did this that would mean he would be losing a lot of potential viewers, so why take that risk? As for whether or not he should be BM (which he only is when he trolls), thats his choice. Personally I don't see anything wrong with it unless you just want to make it into an issue :| Also on the featured stream list right now I could 3 or 4 people (inc. protech) who I know are BM so stop acting like everyone but protech is nice. Seriously, its not a big deal :| Get off this mission you have against protech and start another mission, one where you email blizzard requesting they fix their 2v2 matchmaking system. Protech has posted for them to fix it on their forums or at least lower his MMR, but they delete post instead First of all, as I've said numerous times, I'm not advocating that he doesn't troll, just that his trolling be not as inflammatory as it is now. I understand that people may not want to wait 20-30 minutes for a 2v2, and that 4v4 is often the answer, but why is it NECESSARY to be so inflammatory? As for my previous comments: Yes, I was attacking his stream in the beginning, because I couldn't believe that someone could find the type of BM that ProTech uses in his "troll" sessions as anything less than childish. Put simply, it's not funny. However, after reading some more comments in the thread (runforyourlife's is a good example), I realized that other viewers may feel the same way I do and perhaps enjoy the pro-level 2v2 he brings far more than his BM. That's where my comments made the transition. You're also blowing what I said previously out of proportion, in that I did not say that "everyone but ProTech is nice", I said that he has the greatest amount of BM out of the featured streamers, and THAT is why I am commenting. You are right, though, that I should get off this mission. It's pretty clear from the fact that ProTech can not even formulate his own responses and leaves a follower like you to do it for him, that he is too stubborn to make an adjustment. I'll stop commenting on this thread. Nono, it's just that since my IQ level is so high anything that I would write in response to what you have to say would be esoteric. | ||
Xglutlewl
54 Posts
On July 06 2011 13:32 Bargorf wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 12:59 askTeivospy wrote: LOL? ok yes there is a difference in your head but only because you want there to be one. On July 06 2011 11:41 Bargorf wrote: Finally, my intention is not to "attack" your stream. It may seem that way, but my intentions are not malicious and I am purely speaking from a viewer standpoint. Being polite on stream will never have consequences, but by BMing, you take the risk of losing viewers. Why take that risk? On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote: Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured. READ THIS and don't ignore it: No sane person wants to sit and watch 5-15 minute games (potentially versus well known/admitted hackers) after waiting for 20-30 minutes, usually 30 minutes. If Protech did this that would mean he would be losing a lot of potential viewers, so why take that risk? As for whether or not he should be BM (which he only is when he trolls), thats his choice. Personally I don't see anything wrong with it unless you just want to make it into an issue :| Also on the featured stream list right now I could 3 or 4 people (inc. protech) who I know are BM so stop acting like everyone but protech is nice. Seriously, its not a big deal :| Get off this mission you have against protech and start another mission, one where you email blizzard requesting they fix their 2v2 matchmaking system. Protech has posted for them to fix it on their forums or at least lower his MMR, but they delete post instead First of all, as I've said numerous times, I'm not advocating that he doesn't troll, just that his trolling be not as inflammatory as it is now. I understand that people may not want to wait 20-30 minutes for a 2v2, and that 4v4 is often the answer, but why is it NECESSARY to be so inflammatory? As for my previous comments: Yes, I was attacking his stream in the beginning, because I couldn't believe that someone could find the type of BM that ProTech uses in his "troll" sessions as anything less than childish. Put simply, it's not funny. However, after reading some more comments in the thread (runforyourlife's is a good example), I realized that other viewers may feel the same way I do and perhaps enjoy the pro-level 2v2 he brings far more than his BM. That's where my comments made the transition. You're also blowing what I said previously out of proportion, in that I did not say that "everyone but ProTech is nice", I said that he has the greatest amount of BM out of the featured streamers, and THAT is why I am commenting. You are right, though, that I should get off this mission. It's pretty clear from the fact that ProTech can not even formulate his own responses and leaves a follower like you to do it for him, that he is too stubborn to make an adjustment. I'll stop commenting on this thread. If you don't like it don't watch. Most of us enjoy the BM. I'm sure there's some children's programming on TV you will find less offensive. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 06 2011 14:12 Xglutlewl wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2011 13:32 Bargorf wrote: On July 06 2011 12:59 askTeivospy wrote: LOL? ok yes there is a difference in your head but only because you want there to be one. On July 06 2011 11:41 Bargorf wrote: Finally, my intention is not to "attack" your stream. It may seem that way, but my intentions are not malicious and I am purely speaking from a viewer standpoint. Being polite on stream will never have consequences, but by BMing, you take the risk of losing viewers. Why take that risk? On July 03 2011 13:25 Bargorf wrote: Yeah, this guy is a pretty awful streamer. Terrible manner, terrible music, and terrible gameplay. He doesn't deserve to be featured. READ THIS and don't ignore it: No sane person wants to sit and watch 5-15 minute games (potentially versus well known/admitted hackers) after waiting for 20-30 minutes, usually 30 minutes. If Protech did this that would mean he would be losing a lot of potential viewers, so why take that risk? As for whether or not he should be BM (which he only is when he trolls), thats his choice. Personally I don't see anything wrong with it unless you just want to make it into an issue :| Also on the featured stream list right now I could 3 or 4 people (inc. protech) who I know are BM so stop acting like everyone but protech is nice. Seriously, its not a big deal :| Get off this mission you have against protech and start another mission, one where you email blizzard requesting they fix their 2v2 matchmaking system. Protech has posted for them to fix it on their forums or at least lower his MMR, but they delete post instead First of all, as I've said numerous times, I'm not advocating that he doesn't troll, just that his trolling be not as inflammatory as it is now. I understand that people may not want to wait 20-30 minutes for a 2v2, and that 4v4 is often the answer, but why is it NECESSARY to be so inflammatory? As for my previous comments: Yes, I was attacking his stream in the beginning, because I couldn't believe that someone could find the type of BM that ProTech uses in his "troll" sessions as anything less than childish. Put simply, it's not funny. However, after reading some more comments in the thread (runforyourlife's is a good example), I realized that other viewers may feel the same way I do and perhaps enjoy the pro-level 2v2 he brings far more than his BM. That's where my comments made the transition. You're also blowing what I said previously out of proportion, in that I did not say that "everyone but ProTech is nice", I said that he has the greatest amount of BM out of the featured streamers, and THAT is why I am commenting. You are right, though, that I should get off this mission. It's pretty clear from the fact that ProTech can not even formulate his own responses and leaves a follower like you to do it for him, that he is too stubborn to make an adjustment. I'll stop commenting on this thread. If you don't like it don't watch. Most of us enjoy the BM. I'm sure there's some children's programming on TV you will find less offensive. I actually laughed. | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
You are right, though, that I should get off this mission. It's pretty clear from the fact that ProTech can not even formulate his own responses and leaves a follower like you to do it for him, that he is too stubborn to make an adjustment. I'll stop commenting on this thread. he didn't leave me to do anything? Dood, he expresses his ideas in a single line while you just hide your dumb attacks behind a facade of intelligence and terrible comma/general grammar usage. Maybe if I was able to read a piece of your writing without mentally stopping every few words because of your use of commas I would, be able to think, that you're not just mad ,because you got timedout/banned, from the chat for insulting, someone and so you came here, to stealth rage. Considering the timing of banning someone for being obnoxious / insulting and this thread being bumped with complaints of BM by the same person I would say its in the realm of possibility. Either that or you got dominated by 30 reapers. | ||
qkrtncu
Korea (South)11 Posts
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Bargorf
United States23 Posts
On July 06 2011 17:08 askTeivospy wrote: Show nested quote + You are right, though, that I should get off this mission. It's pretty clear from the fact that ProTech can not even formulate his own responses and leaves a follower like you to do it for him, that he is too stubborn to make an adjustment. I'll stop commenting on this thread. he didn't leave me to do anything? Dood, he expresses his ideas in a single line while you just hide your dumb attacks behind a facade of intelligence and terrible comma/general grammar usage. Maybe if I was able to read a piece of your writing without mentally stopping every few words because of your use of commas I would, be able to think, that you're not just mad ,because you got timedout/banned, from the chat for insulting, someone and so you came here, to stealth rage. Considering the timing of banning someone for being obnoxious / insulting and this thread being bumped with complaints of BM by the same person I would say its in the realm of possibility. Either that or you got dominated by 30 reapers. I said I wouldn't comment on ProTech's thread anymore, but a comment that is this idiotic deserves a response. It seems that you have drifted from trying to prove your point in a logical manner to just insulting me, so I will point out the numerous things that are wrong with your comment in order of idiocy: 1. My grammer and comma usage is fine. Judging from your own grammer, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. In addition, keep in mind that you're defending PROTECH, who has no grasp of grammer or sentence structure whatsoever. 2. ProTech absolutely left you to respond for him. Just scroll through the thread and you'll see the one-liners that he defends himself with while you try and back him up. I don't know who you are, but you sure idolize ProTech so much so that you speak for him when he can't speak for himself. 3. About bumping the thread up: LOL? I don't watch ProTech's stream, because as I've said in nearly all my comments, his BM dissuades me as a viewer. I was merely commenting because I felt that his stream wasn't worthy of being featured, not because I held some sort of grudge against him. Also, if you had even taken the time to read the other comments, you would of seen that I'm not the only one with complaints. It's unfortunate that I've had to come back to this thread, but I feel that I'm obligated to defend myself. It's sad that someone who had previously made some good points ultimately resorts to insults when they can't think of anything more to say. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 06 2011 17:35 qkrtncu wrote: let me reiterate, bad stream full of bad manners, should not be featured Let me clarify, I banned you from my stream for hacking in starcraft 2. So there is no need for your hacking ass to be attacking my stream. | ||
Otak
United Kingdom110 Posts
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Snak3n
Sweden2 Posts
i bet his been powed or something like that from a game and came with his abuse. About the stream | ||
spapa13
United States7 Posts
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cDgThunderD
Denmark32 Posts
Fun trolling in 4v4 if there's too long waiting on 2v2 or just for some relaxing fun play. But when it gets serious this is so awesome, 2v2 high lvl play that are above most of other master rank streamers, he also occasionally plays 1v1, ZvZ ling micro battle ? intense man ;D and as for all the bm, its obvious, that he's not serious about it, and sometimes people in 4v4 goes in on it making it even more fun =) | ||
Fruitybadger
19 Posts
Usererror413: then they lose their whole base Broadcaster Hackprotech: everyone go here Crimsondarknessz: bringing scvs isnt noob Broadcaster Hackprotech: and Crimsondarknessz: what are you talking about Broadcaster Hackprotech: say good things about my stream » !" Personally I think TELLING your viewers to go to a site to say kind words about you is as low as you can get. If we wanted to, we would log on and say that your 2v2 stream is in fact quite enjoyable. But instead of letting us do that on our own, you request it. Pathetic beyond words. Boycotting this stream. It's like begging for FOLLOWERS or DONATIONS. Just makes you come off as needy and winy. | ||
fleischgeruch
Germany5 Posts
Best featured stream! period. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:25 Fruitybadger wrote: "Broadcaster Hackprotech: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=202566¤tpage=5#97 Usererror413: then they lose their whole base Broadcaster Hackprotech: everyone go here Crimsondarknessz: bringing scvs isnt noob Broadcaster Hackprotech: and Crimsondarknessz: what are you talking about Broadcaster Hackprotech: say good things about my stream » !" Personally I think TELLING your viewers to go to a site to say kind words about you is as low as you can get. If we wanted to, we would log on and say that your 2v2 stream is in fact quite enjoyable. But instead of letting us do that on our own, you request it. Pathetic beyond words. Boycotting this stream. It's like begging for FOLLOWERS or DONATIONS. Just makes you come off as needy and winy. You must say good things about my stream, this isnt a democracy this is a monarchy. | ||
Fruitybadger
19 Posts
Laxbro213: search takes forever Broadcaster Hackprotech: Fruitybadger Mod Cdgthunderd: OHHH AND did u notice? » Joined TL.net Thursday, 7th of July 2011 Crimsondarknessz: Trololololololol Broadcaster Hackprotech: kid so lucky » i dont know his account" Shows the maturity of this guy right here. Asks people to go and kiss ass for him on this site, but then when one speaks his/her mind against him, he rages and shows immaturity. Thanks for proving my point. | ||
cDgThunderD
Denmark32 Posts
Joined TL.net Thursday, 7th of July 2011 kinda low yourself dont you think? more then 90% of people dont check stream thread when they are going to watch a sream, so he links it. nothing wrong with that | ||
fleischgeruch
Germany5 Posts
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UserErrOr413
United States178 Posts
Part of the reason why i watch Protech's stream is because of his BM and personality. I could get the same quality of boring SC that other streams have by watching replays with music by myself. And @FruityBadger I would have posted something nice about his stream sooner if I knew there was a thread about it. We are just too lazy to look, I mean i'm spending time to watch someone play starcraft instead of playing it myself. If Protech would like some of his regular viewers to post something nice for everyone else to read, I will gladly do it. | ||
nosk
United States21 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:29 Fruitybadger wrote: "Broadcaster Hackprotech: look at this nerd Laxbro213: search takes forever Broadcaster Hackprotech: Fruitybadger Mod Cdgthunderd: OHHH AND did u notice? » Joined TL.net Thursday, 7th of July 2011 Crimsondarknessz: Trololololololol Broadcaster Hackprotech: kid so lucky » i dont know his account" Shows the maturity of this guy right here. Asks people to go and kiss ass for him on this site, but then when one speaks his/her mind against him, he rages and shows immaturity. Thanks for proving my point. umad? On a serious note, how is it anyone can complain about his play? He gets matched against GM in 1v1 and 2v2s take forever because his MMR is stupid high. The"BM" is only present in 4v4 and anyone who takes that bracket seriously needs to learn how to play. Edit: I saw someone say the people he played against in PTSL only played 15 games. The only team in that league with little to no experience was Team Destiny. Everyone else was seasoned like a mother fucker. | ||
germanunited
Germany8 Posts
Okay let's go At first, I want to say thankyou to Protech for not only making me laugh but also for learning something by watching your stream. I thought my holiday will be boring as shit, but then I found your stream. You play everything and the best part is, you can everything play. Even when you gonna troll in 4v4 you are still the leader and matchwinner. You have a diversity on your stream no one else has it. That's why it should be featured in future. You skill is very high and I can imagine that you'll be GM next year of course. And now, for all the hater. I don't know why you complain about his style of trolling or whatever. He plays 16 hours a day, full time streaming. He is doing his job fucking well, and the trolling are just to relax himself and the viewers. If it would not appreciated he would have no users. I like this stream, and this style, because its something different and not that mainstream stream (what a linguistic joke ) I am gonna watch your stream in the future, day in day out, featured or non-featured Best Regards, germanunited P.S.: Protech, when I get my money for this wall of text? P.S.#2: Haters gonna hate | ||
Fruitybadger
19 Posts
Kani_87: noob Broadcaster Hackprotech: fuck eu Dison2167: D: Broadcaster Hackprotech: who cares who fruitybadger is Ryanjem: for haters gif just google haters gonna hate Crimsondarknessz: Ohhh shittt Broadcaster Hackprotech: some nerd who's probably bronze talking shit » thats all he is" Ya this clown shouldn't be "featured." Then again, I thinks its highly funny when someone who plays SC2 for 8+ hours a day calls anyone a "nerd." Now he's just making his viewers read these posts and not playing. I can see why this guy had alot of hate on him. Lashes out very easily. Its just a videogame. If you get so upset over it then there is something very wrong here. Not to sure if this site wants to promote that but I am glad I saw this guys true colours before i clicked to follow him (and his true colours came in the first 8 min of me watching his stream.) Pretty sad. | ||
VoirDire
Sweden1923 Posts
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Meto5000
United States5 Posts
In regards to the 4v4 trolling, I personally would much rather be watching meaningful 2v2/3v3 games, but when you witness firsthand 10-15 minute queue times I can understand why he would want to take a break. Furthermore, there is humor to be had watching the 4v4 games, it just may not appeal to you - and guess what, that's fine. Go watch something else, nobody is stopping you. As for this being a featured stream, it features high level StarCraft with an easy to see message that warns of explicit language. Yes, from time to time it features low level 4v4 trolling, but if you did an actual comparison of time spent 2v2/3v3 vs troll 4v4, you would see that the troll 4v4 is heavily in the minority. If this is not your bag, there are plenty of other streams of high level gameplay where the streamer says nothing, does not communicate and is more or less an SC robot. For me, I will continue to watch. | ||
v0lle
United States1 Post
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scidgy
United States3 Posts
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Fruitybadger
19 Posts
Haters gotta hate? I hate when broadcasters tell others to go to some pages message board and post messages that kisses the broadcasters ass. Ragers gotta Rage. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:38 Fruitybadger wrote: Oh and to answer the questions above, no I didn't just create a account to talk trash. I've never had an account on this page. I made an account, like the broadcasters asked when he asked his viewers to come here and kiss his ass in positive messages (like all the clones above) but I spoke what I truly think. I'm sure most of these clone posts are the kids in his channel right now begging to play in 3v3s with him or become a "mod." While he rages about me. Too awesome. Nice to know I have this much of an effect on clones and this guy when I just started watching/signed up. Haters gotta hate? I hate when broadcasters tell others to go to some pages message board and post messages that kisses the broadcasters ass. Ragers gotta Rage. Lol, you did just make an account to rage. | ||
nosk
United States21 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:38 Fruitybadger wrote: Ragers gotta Rage. Sounds like you ragin' bro. | ||
germanunited
Germany8 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:38 Fruitybadger wrote: Oh and to answer the questions above, no I didn't just create a account to talk trash. I've never had an account on this page. I made an account, like the broadcasters asked when he asked his viewers to come here and kiss his ass in positive messages (like all the clones above) but I spoke what I truly think. I'm sure most of these clone posts are the kids in his channel right now begging to play in 3v3s with him or become a "mod." While he rages about me. Too awesome. Nice to know I have this much of an effect on clones and this guy when I just started watching/signed up. Haters gotta hate? I hate when broadcasters tell others to go to some pages message board and post messages that kisses the broadcasters ass. Ragers gotta Rage. I have a question.. How do u find Protechs stream, and why u keep watching it? | ||
Pwnergizer Bunny
United States110 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:38 Fruitybadger wrote: Oh and to answer the questions above, no I didn't just create a account to talk trash. I've never had an account on this page. I made an account, like the broadcasters asked when he asked his viewers to come here and kiss his ass in positive messages (like all the clones above) but I spoke what I truly think. I'm sure most of these clone posts are the kids in his channel right now begging to play in 3v3s with him or become a "mod." While he rages about me. Too awesome. Nice to know I have this much of an effect on clones and this guy when I just started watching/signed up. Haters gotta hate? I hate when broadcasters tell others to go to some pages message board and post messages that kisses the broadcasters ass. Ragers gotta Rage. Why so hostile cupcake? Did he grape you in a 2v2 and the only way you can attempt to get back at him is attempting to get his stream unfeatured? Aint gonna happened just because one reject can't stand his BM and is being made fun of on his stream. I do find it funny how you talk about how it should be unfeatured and boycotted and all the other BS you talk about, yet you are watching it and reading chat to see if there is anything you can use to get it unfeatured. Haters gonna hate. | ||
nick3kz
United States4 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:34 Fruitybadger wrote: "Broadcaster Hackprotech: yes Kani_87: noob Broadcaster Hackprotech: fuck eu Dison2167: D: Broadcaster Hackprotech: who cares who fruitybadger is Ryanjem: for haters gif just google haters gonna hate Crimsondarknessz: Ohhh shittt Broadcaster Hackprotech: some nerd who's probably bronze talking shit » thats all he is" Ya this clown shouldn't be "featured." Then again, I thinks its highly funny when someone who plays SC2 for 8+ hours a day calls anyone a "nerd." Now he's just making his viewers read these posts and not playing. I can see why this guy had alot of hate on him. Lashes out very easily. Its just a videogame. If you get so upset over it then there is something very wrong here. Not to sure if this site wants to promote that but I am glad I saw this guys true colours before i clicked to follow him (and his true colours came in the first 8 min of me watching his stream.) Pretty sad. We all nerds so? I personally think the stream is very enjoyable... Lets not forget who threw the first punch here. Pretty sure you attacked him on his own thread before he said anything to you. So seriously if the stream is not for u then just leave! I will say Im not great at 1s but i love me some 2 v 2 and watching this stream gives me great insight into this part of the game. He does deserve to be featured and i think the high level of play you see in this stream warrants the status. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:38 Fruitybadger wrote: Oh and to answer the questions above, no I didn't just create a account to talk trash. I've never had an account on this page. I made an account, like the broadcasters asked when he asked his viewers to come here and kiss his ass in positive messages (like all the clones above) but I spoke what I truly think. I'm sure most of these clone posts are the kids in his channel right now begging to play in 3v3s with him or become a "mod." While he rages about me. Too awesome. Nice to know I have this much of an effect on clones and this guy when I just started watching/signed up. Haters gotta hate? I hate when broadcasters tell others to go to some pages message board and post messages that kisses the broadcasters ass. Ragers gotta Rage. look what i can do Broadcaster FruityBadger: rage | ||
_MagnuM_
Denmark136 Posts
Protechs stream is definitely my favourite stream to watch, and it so happens he streams like all the damn time, i live in europe and its still possible for me to watch most of his games if i want.. this guy is the fucking BOSS | ||
Fruitybadger
19 Posts
Saw it on Justin.TV and I am not watching it anymore. Thank god there are other muuuuuuuuch better SC2 channels on JTV then that one. The Broadcaster who I am guessing is Protech is a real class act. "Why so hostile cupcake?" Who says Cupcake now of days? You sound COOL! Let's keep reading and see what you have to say. "Did he grape you in a 2v2 and the only way you can attempt to get back at him is attempting to get his stream unfeatured?" No, if you read above, I explain WHY I am here. Broadcaster TOLD his viewers to come here and kiss his ass to get "featured." (Lame) I know reading is asking alot from most people on message boards, so I'll let it pass. Let's keep reading and see what you say. "Aint gonna happened just because one reject can't stand his BM and is being made fun of on his stream." What is so good about being this "featured" anyway? Do you get anything for it? If not, then who cares. But from this thread alone, I can see clearly that I am not the only one who feels this broadcaster should not be put on display (if that's what featured means.) Its clear that the caster respects everyones opini- oh wait. Well it's clear that when one person speaks out about him he doesn't go into a rage outburs- oh wait.... "I do find it funny how you talk about how it should be unfeatured and boycotted and all the other BS you talk about" I didn't say all others should boycot it. That just I am. Again, I did say that it should not be featured for the reasons above and probably for the countless others I could name off if I actually took the time now to watch his Justin.TV stream. "yet you are watching it and reading chat to see if there is anything you can use to get it unfeatured." So what's this, the third time I'm saying this? I am not watching his stream any longer. You are the shining example of what's wrong with the school system. The memorization capacity of a goldfish. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
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Pwnergizer Bunny
United States110 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:50 Fruitybadger wrote: "How do u find Protechs stream, and why u keep watching it?" Saw it on Justin.TV and I am not watching it anymore. Thank god there are other muuuuuuuuch better SC2 channels on JTV then that one. The Broadcaster who I am guessing is Protech is a real class act. "Why so hostile cupcake?" Who says Cupcake now of days? You sound COOL! Let's keep reading and see what you have to say. "Did he grape you in a 2v2 and the only way you can attempt to get back at him is attempting to get his stream unfeatured?" No, if you read above, I explain WHY I am here. Broadcaster TOLD his viewers to come here and kiss his ass to get "featured." (Lame) I know reading is asking alot from most people on message boards, so I'll let it pass. Let's keep reading and see what you say. "Aint gonna happened just because one reject can't stand his BM and is being made fun of on his stream." What is so good about being this "featured" anyway? Do you get anything for it? If not, then who cares. But from this thread alone, I can see clearly that I am not the only one who feels this broadcaster should not be put on display (if that's what featured means.) Its clear that the caster respects everyones opini- oh wait. Well it's clear that when one person speaks out about him he doesn't go into a rage outburs- oh wait.... "I do find it funny how you talk about how it should be unfeatured and boycotted and all the other BS you talk about" I didn't say all others should boycot it. That just I am. Again, I did say that it should not be featured for the reasons above and probably for the countless others I could name off if I actually took the time now to watch his Justin.TV stream. "yet you are watching it and reading chat to see if there is anything you can use to get it unfeatured." So what's this, the third time I'm saying this? I am not watching his stream any longer. You are the shining example of what's wrong with the school system. The memorization capacity of a goldfish. y u no like cupcakes? | ||
PowerDes
United States520 Posts
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UserErrOr413
United States178 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:53 Pwnergizer Bunny wrote: Show nested quote + On July 07 2011 06:50 Fruitybadger wrote: "How do u find Protechs stream, and why u keep watching it?" Saw it on Justin.TV and I am not watching it anymore. Thank god there are other muuuuuuuuch better SC2 channels on JTV then that one. The Broadcaster who I am guessing is Protech is a real class act. "Why so hostile cupcake?" Who says Cupcake now of days? You sound COOL! Let's keep reading and see what you have to say. "Did he grape you in a 2v2 and the only way you can attempt to get back at him is attempting to get his stream unfeatured?" No, if you read above, I explain WHY I am here. Broadcaster TOLD his viewers to come here and kiss his ass to get "featured." (Lame) I know reading is asking alot from most people on message boards, so I'll let it pass. Let's keep reading and see what you say. "Aint gonna happened just because one reject can't stand his BM and is being made fun of on his stream." What is so good about being this "featured" anyway? Do you get anything for it? If not, then who cares. But from this thread alone, I can see clearly that I am not the only one who feels this broadcaster should not be put on display (if that's what featured means.) Its clear that the caster respects everyones opini- oh wait. Well it's clear that when one person speaks out about him he doesn't go into a rage outburs- oh wait.... "I do find it funny how you talk about how it should be unfeatured and boycotted and all the other BS you talk about" I didn't say all others should boycot it. That just I am. Again, I did say that it should not be featured for the reasons above and probably for the countless others I could name off if I actually took the time now to watch his Justin.TV stream. "yet you are watching it and reading chat to see if there is anything you can use to get it unfeatured." So what's this, the third time I'm saying this? I am not watching his stream any longer. You are the shining example of what's wrong with the school system. The memorization capacity of a goldfish. y u no like cupcakes? Cupcakes are good, but not as good as Protech's stream Edit: Thanks for the epic replay Power! | ||
germanunited
Germany8 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:50 Fruitybadger wrote: "How do u find Protechs stream, and why u keep watching it?" Saw it on Justin.TV and I am not watching it anymore. Thank god there are other muuuuuuuuch better SC2 channels on JTV then that one. The Broadcaster who I am guessing is Protech is a real class act. Okay, so u dont like and watch it. Then I have more questions. How do you know that Protech said, we shall write nice things here? Then I wanna know, why u keep hating here. Why dont you just make a query for TL, writing your lines about your worries, and let TL do the work. What are your aims here? | ||
Fruitybadger
19 Posts
Nice post. Was that your attempt of trash talk? *sigh* That's not even an original saying. Then again, I shouldn't be surprised by that being said from the broadcaster of such "quality." "look what i can do Broadcaster FruityBadger: rage" Hey that's pretty cool. Can you also take screen shots of your chat stream and already of emailed the pics to the staff/admins here at this website? Cool because that's what I did. Oh and screenshots, much better then message board posts. Let them see the kind of broadcaster you are and see if you should get that "feature" you strive for. I can see the future... and the future says... not going to happen. | ||
_MagnuM_
Denmark136 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:50 Fruitybadger wrote: "How do u find Protechs stream, and why u keep watching it?" Saw it on Justin.TV and I am not watching it anymore. Thank god there are other muuuuuuuuch better SC2 channels on JTV then that one. The Broadcaster who I am guessing is Protech is a real class act. "Why so hostile cupcake?" Who says Cupcake now of days? You sound COOL! Let's keep reading and see what you have to say. "Did he grape you in a 2v2 and the only way you can attempt to get back at him is attempting to get his stream unfeatured?" No, if you read above, I explain WHY I am here. Broadcaster TOLD his viewers to come here and kiss his ass to get "featured." (Lame) I know reading is asking alot from most people on message boards, so I'll let it pass. Let's keep reading and see what you say. "Aint gonna happened just because one reject can't stand his BM and is being made fun of on his stream." What is so good about being this "featured" anyway? Do you get anything for it? If not, then who cares. But from this thread alone, I can see clearly that I am not the only one who feels this broadcaster should not be put on display (if that's what featured means.) Its clear that the caster respects everyones opini- oh wait. Well it's clear that when one person speaks out about him he doesn't go into a rage outburs- oh wait.... "I do find it funny how you talk about how it should be unfeatured and boycotted and all the other BS you talk about" I didn't say all others should boycot it. That just I am. Again, I did say that it should not be featured for the reasons above and probably for the countless others I could name off if I actually took the time now to watch his Justin.TV stream. "yet you are watching it and reading chat to see if there is anything you can use to get it unfeatured." So what's this, the third time I'm saying this? I am not watching his stream any longer. You are the shining example of what's wrong with the school system. The memorization capacity of a goldfish. he didnt tell me to come post here.. i just saw this thread and because i really like protech i started reading it and saw all the bashing and i didnt fully understand why... now i see its because you are just some jealous retard who cant get your own stream featured cos ur still in practice league! oh well... i feel sorry for you little man.. | ||
Fruitybadger
19 Posts
"How do you know that Protech said, we shall write nice things here?" Scroll up/go to an earlier post and READ. Know that's asking alot at this point, but try it. "Then I wanna know, why u keep hating here. Why dont you just make a query for TL, writing your lines about your worries, and let TL do the work." Have "What are your aims here?" Well to be honest, hoping that others will read this and see this guy for what he is. For the clones to become individuals and instead of going "can i be a mod" "can i 3v3 you" grow a pair and realize/see this broadcaster for what he is. Like my original point stated, anyone who begs for people to go to a message board and kiss his ass on it so he gets "featured" is a low life. Hope people realize that and that the people who run this site (i've not even looked at it besides searching contact us and how to make a complaint. Just know this is a SC2 site) will never use this broadcaster as a role model for a symbol of their channel. Would just reflect badly and make them look bad by association. | ||
germanunited
Germany8 Posts
On July 07 2011 07:05 Fruitybadger wrote: "Then I wanna know, why u keep hating here. Why dont you just make a query for TL, writing your lines about your worries, and let TL do the work." Have Okay, so u have done it, but he is still featured.. Maybe TL doesn't agree with ur opinion? BTW opinion.. What u are making here, is worthless.. Nobody, really nobody, even from TL will take attention to your words, because you do it in a way, nobody likes it. Say an opinion and just raging is a big difference.. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 07 2011 07:05 Fruitybadger wrote: Sigh, please do not just SKIM my posts on here, and actually READ them. Then these redundent questions don't need to be answered over and over again. Like these redundent questions below asked by germanunited "How do you know that Protech said, we shall write nice things here?" Scroll up/go to an earlier post and READ. Know that's asking alot at this point, but try it. "Then I wanna know, why u keep hating here. Why dont you just make a query for TL, writing your lines about your worries, and let TL do the work." Have "What are your aims here?" Well to be honest, hoping that others will read this and see this guy for what he is. For the clones to become individuals and instead of going "can i be a mod" "can i 3v3 you" grow a pair and realize/see this broadcaster for what he is. Like my original point stated, anyone who begs for people to go to a message board and kiss his ass on it so he gets "featured" is a low life. Hope people realize that and that the people who run this site (i've not even looked at it besides searching contact us and how to make a complaint. Just know this is a SC2 site) will never use this broadcaster as a role model for a symbol of their channel. Would just reflect badly and make them look bad by association. I don't read worthless posts tho bro ~ | ||
Fruitybadger
19 Posts
I take it the TL is the admins of the website who I emailed and sent the screen shots in too. I'm sure they'll care. You have the right to your opinion and that opinion can be/will be proven wrong. By the way, the music he plays on his stream is without the written concent of the Copy Right holders. That is Copy Right Infringement and it's one of the reasons why that bill is being passed sooner rather then later. We are now in the middle of contacting the copy right holders that have the songs he plays and letting them know his channel on JTV and how to contact JTV if they feel the need to close it down. Like so many entertainment channels and why they get shut down on JTV, they play movies/tv/music that they do not have the written permission to play. Ruins things for the rest of us when they exploit that. | ||
UserErrOr413
United States178 Posts
I don't know why you have so much angst against Protech, but the fact of the matter is that (1) He is the only person playing high level 2v2s, (2) has an enjoyable personality to watch, and (3) has a fair number of regular viewers. One persons whining is not going to change anything on his stream. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
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UserErrOr413
United States178 Posts
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germanunited
Germany8 Posts
On July 07 2011 07:18 Fruitybadger wrote: By the way, the music he plays on his stream is without the written concent of the Copy Right holders. That is Copy Right Infringement and it's one of the reasons why that bill is being passed sooner rather then later. We are now in the middle of contacting the copy right holders that have the songs he plays and letting them know his channel on JTV and how to contact JTV if they feel the need to close it down. Like so many entertainment channels and why they get shut down on JTV, they play movies/tv/music that they do not have the written permission to play. Ruins things for the rest of us when they exploit that. That is just wrong. The music he plays is available for everyone (soundcloud, youtube) | ||
Fruitybadger
19 Posts
And now we can add lair to your resume. Friend just said you stopped playing and showed my last post on your screen for four minute before you typed your reply. Well done. And before everyone goes "oh, so your friend was watching" he was reporting the channel on JTV for copy right infringement like many of us are now doing. We're tired of channels who continue to play illegal content. Will just get that bill passed faster. Why not commentate your games if you have the brain power to do two things at once- which is obvious that the broadcaster doesn't by reading anything he says. One thing I bet he can do well is play SC2, which is why he does it 8+ hours a day. | ||
Fruitybadger
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cDgThunderD
Denmark32 Posts
He never asked people to create an account, only to go to this thread and post good things. see how many people that took the little time to make an account and to write something, not only 1-2 lines of text but whole walls of text. your the only one that made an account to complain about the stream. his playing 2v2 now, so you should be satisfied, and he plays alot more 'serious' then 'trolling' EDIT: there is something called a DISCLAIMER that you put in your youtube videoes | ||
germanunited
Germany8 Posts
Just for the opportunity you are right.. what about the other streamers? The play songs too. No.. you are definitely wrong here and a liar. This kind of music he plays is free, and there is no point, no law, saying, that restream that kind of music is illegal.. you just searching facts desperatly to bust him, but u fail hard.. really.. | ||
Fruitybadger
19 Posts
Then why did I post when all the other clones started to post their love of the broadcaster? Have a hard time all you want, but it does not take that much mental capacity to figure out that's exactly what happened. Do you have a hard time getting the square block in the circle hole when you were a child too? "I don't know why you have so much angst against Protech, but the fact of the matter is that (1) He is the only person playing high level 2v2s" That's reason for a broadcaster to exploit his viewers and tell them to go kiss his ass on a website? Don't think so. "(2) has an enjoyable personality to watch," Yup is fun watching his stream as he sits watching a message board and rage in the chat room. What's also enjoyable was when I was watching for that time period, he dropped the N bomb in chat twice. Very mature and not racist at all. "and (3) has a fair number of regular viewers. One persons whining is not going to change anything on his stream." Clones, not viewers. And when it comes to violating legal rights of major publishers, one person (and its not just me) informing them that their content is being misused and abused and were to find it, can/will make all the difference. "ProTech July 07 2011 07:18. Posts 91 PM Profile Quote # actually, im willing to bet that it's bargof in disguise" I am fruitybadger with the same name in SC2. I am not in "disguise" or "bargof." | ||
germanunited
Germany8 Posts
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UserErrOr413
United States178 Posts
On July 07 2011 07:23 Fruitybadger wrote: It is illegal on youtube to post music you do not have copy right too and then to rebroadcast it if it is from one of the artists page. Please I am a Law student. I know what's legal and what's illegal and who/what to contact if those legal rights are being abused. I also assume you contacted them about Startale Rainbow ReignPheonix sixjaxMajor coLCatZ Spanishiwa Vibe All of which are featured streams and are playing music right now or usually play music for their viewers On July 07 2011 07:30 Fruitybadger wrote: Then why did I post when all the other clones started to post their love of the broadcaster? Have a hard time all you want, but it does not take that much mental capacity to figure out that's exactly what happened. Do you have a hard time getting the square block in the circle hole when you were a child too? Well if you were bargof and trying to flame Protech, then it wouldn't be that hard to create a new account when you were raging over his stream. Also calling me slow when I was a child doesn't seem On July 07 2011 07:30 Fruitybadger wrote:Very mature | ||
Fruitybadger
19 Posts
Believe what you like. "Just for the opportunity you are right.. what about the other streamers? The play songs too." They are breaking copy right law as well. Bill S.978 is the result. "No.. you are definitely wrong here and a liar." Then please post some legal documentation stating that what he is doing is in fact legal. Save you some time. It is illegal to play music over a stream without the written consent from the copy right holders. On youtube, the publishers make their own channels for the artists and upload new songs, music videos, etc. That is FINE. They are legally entitled because they OWN the copy right. It's all the other channels/streams that play music/movies/tv shows without permission that are doing so illegally and can be fined/shut down for doing so. "This kind of music he plays is free, and there is no point, no law, saying, that restream that kind of music is illegal.. you just searching facts desperatly to bust him, but u fail hard.. really.." Rebroadcasting music/tv/movies that someone has put on the internet is still illegal. it is illegal for the person who uploaded them and it is illegal for anyone who re-broadcasts them. Even if you BUY music off iTunes, it is still ILLEGAL to play that music over a stream or to play a movie you have purchased. Now to take a quote from How I Met Your Mother that fits in here, *ahem*, Lawyered. | ||
Fruitybadger
19 Posts
Startale Rainbow ReignPheonix sixjaxMajor coLCatZ Spanishiwa Vibe All of which are featured streams and are playing music right now or usually play music for their viewers" Dont care about any of them or even watch any of them. They have not crossed my radar. However his broadcaster did and few of us from class have now taken it upon ourselves to take legal action. This should be fun. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
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Fruitybadger
19 Posts
You should really re read what is and makes a person libel and what does not. Informing copy right holders/infringement departments that a individual on the internet is breaking their copy right laws is in fact not even close to being libel. But thanks for playing. | ||
cDgThunderD
Denmark32 Posts
i know for a fact that he have 1 computer, a laptop. so i''d like you to stop calling them clones. | ||
UserErrOr413
United States178 Posts
On July 07 2011 07:40 Fruitybadger wrote: "I also assume you contacted them about Startale Rainbow ReignPheonix sixjaxMajor coLCatZ Spanishiwa Vibe All of which are featured streams and are playing music right now or usually play music for their viewers" Dont care about any of them or even watch any of them. They have not crossed my radar. However his broadcaster did and few of us from class have now taken it upon ourselves to take legal action. This should be fun. So why are you so intent on bringing down a fairly unknown and unpopular streamer compared to those 6? Unless you have some personal grudge? | ||
Otak
United Kingdom110 Posts
Y u so EZ fruitybadger? gtfo of the stream. | ||
germanunited
Germany8 Posts
TL existing so long.. Streamers playing songs so long.. why they didnt get banned? I can answer u, because, what they are doing is legal.. you are totally wrong here.. try to make unrest.. but look what you have done... right.. nothing.. everyone is pointing at you and laugh.. laugh for your jealousness and whatever your only protection is the pc.. you are just another kid, who is try to be something what you are not.. and fail very hard against a whole community finish at first the school and grow up.. then we can talk further | ||
Fruitybadger
19 Posts
Keep thinking that and continue to stream illegal content. Let's see how this works out for you. Oh, play some Lady Gaga when you are at it if you feel safe. Because that won't get you shut down at all. Lawyered. | ||
nosk
United States21 Posts
On July 07 2011 07:47 Fruitybadger wrote: "fruitybadger you're on a mission that's destined to fail. give it up brO~" Keep thinking that and continue to stream illegal content. Let's see how this works out for you. Oh, play some Lady Gaga when you are at it if you feel safe. Because that won't get you shut down at all. Lawyered. Law school =/= lawyer So... Intern'd? | ||
Skewg
Sweden96 Posts
I call troll. Anyway, ProTech's stream is enjoyable as hell to watch. Be it serious 1v1 / 2v2 or trolling the 4v4s in Bronze. Even tho he plays Zerg >_< "A/S/L or GTFO!" | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 07 2011 07:47 Fruitybadger wrote: "fruitybadger you're on a mission that's destined to fail. give it up brO~" Keep thinking that and continue to stream illegal content. Let's see how this works out for you. Oh, play some Lady Gaga when you are at it if you feel safe. Because that won't get you shut down at all. Lawyered. Same goes for ever single gaming stream out there, so until then: A/S/L | ||
nuMi22
United Kingdom165 Posts
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Fruitybadger
19 Posts
Clone, please actually know what you are talking about before you post. He streams on JUSTIN TV. On JTV, it is ILLEGAL to stream copy right material and channels get CLOSED all the time. Gaming channels, movie channels, etc for violating copy right material. Now this channel has been flagged. TL shows the stream feed. It is not the site he broadcasts from. "I can answer u" (Wrongly), "because, what they are doing is legal.." (wrong) you are totally wrong here.." (You are incorrect) try to make unrest..(Already achieved) "but look what you have done... right.. nothing.. everyone is pointing at you and laugh.. laugh for your jealousness and whatever" Give it 2 business days at minimum before the closure happens. Takes JTV a few days but it'll happen. We just called/emailed the copy right holders. Most of them are closed for the day. Give the Infringement departments a day to review and another to contact JTV. "your only protection is the pc.. you are just another kid, who is try to be something what you are not.. and fail very hard against a whole community" Why do I need protection? Obviously I am not a "kid", clone. You should really go find a case that can prove you have a point. You do not and can not. "finish at first the school and grow up.." That'll be next month. Already passed the Bar exam. "then we can talk further" No i'm sure you will continue to post and "talk" to me on here. Clones just don't know when to stop, even when they say they're going too. Calling your bluff Clone. Let's see who's the liar. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
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cDgThunderD
Denmark32 Posts
and why are you ignoring my posts only, fruity ?! you just called them clones again, quit that shit | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
flush & burn the evidence: they've got their education from watching law&order seasons I through IV D:! edit- last 6 pages or so of this thread is a joke btw | ||
Fruitybadger
19 Posts
You are right ProTech, because NO channels on JTV (in the entertainment/gaming) get closed to due to copy right infring- oh wait, they do ALL the time. No one must have reported you yet, well until now anyway. "Why have you made it your personal mission to fuck up this guy's stream? You must literally have nothing better to do. Let TL decide what happens to it, I don't know how you can possibly be this offended to go to these lengths. " TL allows streamers a place to mirror their streams from. JTV is the site he is broadcasting from. It' not just my personal mission. Our 304 class is now making it its mission to inform those who are being exploited and allow justice to be done and for the hammer to fall on this broadcaster. This is not a TL issue. This is a copy right holders/JTV issue. Don't mess with a soon to be Law School Grad who just finished writing his finals, and feels the need to get a by proxy first legal win by shutting this immature ignoramus shut down, and at most, fined. How many people are in that streaming hearing the music illegally? How much money is being lost by the publishers/artists? Everyone who streams anything illegal is just helping that bill get passed and all these gaming streams shut down. Should thank this broadcaster when you have nothing to watch anymore. | ||
Fruitybadger
19 Posts
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Fruitybadger
19 Posts
User was banned for this post. | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
I cant wait until this is settled on People's Court | ||
xhollowpointx
3 Posts
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nuMi22
United Kingdom165 Posts
This is not a TL issue. This is a copy right holders/JTV issue. Don't mess with a soon to be Law School Grad who just finished writing his finals, and feels the need to get a by proxy first legal win by shutting this immature ignoramus shut down, and at most, fined. How many people are in that streaming hearing the music illegally? How much money is being lost by the publishers/artists? Everyone who streams anything illegal is just helping that bill get passed and all these gaming streams shut down. Should thank this broadcaster when you have nothing to watch anymore. While he might be a tosser, you are one horifically arrogant kid and far worse than he is. I actually pity you. The guy has like 300 views and you're breaking your balls to fuck him over for no reason. It's so unbelievably sad and you've got no reason to talk down to everyone. Honestly you're pathetic. | ||
xhollowpointx
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cDgThunderD
Denmark32 Posts
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fleischgeruch
Germany5 Posts
--> Wie mancher sich hier zum Affen macht! Nur scheisse, dass es keine Sau interessiert, was der Kleingeist hier abzieht! | ||
BroOd
Austin10831 Posts
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nuMi22
United Kingdom165 Posts
Oh one last thing, we also emailed the companies that sponsor you as well Broadcaster. Should know that you exploit other companies/content and that they should look closer at this stream while it lasts. User was banned for this post. Thank you TL mods. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 07 2011 08:07 Fruitybadger wrote: Oh one last thing, we also emailed the companies that sponsor you as well Broadcaster. Should know that you exploit other companies/content and that they should look closer at this stream while it lasts. User was banned for this post. but, im not sponsored so you just blew your cover, troll ! | ||
Skewg
Sweden96 Posts
On July 07 2011 08:21 BroOd wrote: That guy sucked but so does a lot of the posting in this thread. Stream threads aren't a free-for-all. A thread that gets hijacked by a troll usually falters in quality =S | ||
Dagonet982
United States3 Posts
need more 4s tho!!! | ||
UserErrOr413
United States178 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:55 PowerDes wrote: I feel sorry for anyone who didn't get to see it live. http://replayfu.com/r/zfD3zm Quoted for people who missed it on stream and from the previous posting in this thread. Epic 2v2 game between Powertech vs. Dayvie & friend, with some great dropping, nydus-ing, and defense. Check out protech's stream for more great games. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
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Cormaximus
United States13 Posts
Best 2v2 stream. Only downside is ProTech is so good it takes a while to place him in a match | ||
smashedpotato
Australia9 Posts
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rawbertson
Canada95 Posts
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
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Baum
Germany1010 Posts
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 12 2011 17:47 Baum wrote: Evertime I tune in I have to watch Protech flaming his opponents like mad. I don't mind BM too much and often times it's at least understandable if it comes from frustration but this guy is just doing it every single game even in 3vs3 and 4vs4 and in such a laughable way. I would like to watch high level team games but certainly not on a stream like this one. There are enough generic idiots out there having thousands of word documents filled with fake 4chan "humor" to copy paste from. Can't really understand why this guy is featured here. Then don't watch the stream, that simple. | ||
KvltMan
Sweden1609 Posts
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Baum
Germany1010 Posts
On July 13 2011 10:15 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On July 12 2011 17:47 Baum wrote: Evertime I tune in I have to watch Protech flaming his opponents like mad. I don't mind BM too much and often times it's at least understandable if it comes from frustration but this guy is just doing it every single game even in 3vs3 and 4vs4 and in such a laughable way. I would like to watch high level team games but certainly not on a stream like this one. There are enough generic idiots out there having thousands of word documents filled with fake 4chan "humor" to copy paste from. Can't really understand why this guy is featured here. Then don't watch the stream, that simple. Stupid reply. I stopped watching your stream after finding out what kind of guy you are. Still I can leave my criticism here since this is what these threads are for, that simple. | ||
Lobotomist
United States1541 Posts
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 14 2011 04:52 Baum wrote: Show nested quote + On July 13 2011 10:15 ProTech wrote: On July 12 2011 17:47 Baum wrote: Evertime I tune in I have to watch Protech flaming his opponents like mad. I don't mind BM too much and often times it's at least understandable if it comes from frustration but this guy is just doing it every single game even in 3vs3 and 4vs4 and in such a laughable way. I would like to watch high level team games but certainly not on a stream like this one. There are enough generic idiots out there having thousands of word documents filled with fake 4chan "humor" to copy paste from. Can't really understand why this guy is featured here. Then don't watch the stream, that simple. Stupid reply. I stopped watching your stream after finding out what kind of guy you are. Still I can leave my criticism here since this is what these threads are for, that simple. Oh no, you stopped watching my stream because you found out what kind of guy I am. Well, i'm glad you stopped watching my stream, since I found out what kind of guy you are. | ||
YunhOLee
Canada2470 Posts
On July 14 2011 05:06 Lobotomist wrote: Any chance you wanna post a little BO for the fast roaches you do against ZT? I think it's like 10/11, 14 ish gas... anyway, I'd be stoked if you could reveal this trade secret :D he's using the 7roach rush bo 11over pool shown/explained here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/7_Roach_Rush_/_Expand_/_Lair | ||
AwfulPlayer
249 Posts
how do you manage to stream 24/7 ? whenever i check TL you're streaming. | ||
JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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Shaylie
Denmark8 Posts
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
On July 23 2011 06:36 Shaylie wrote: So wtf happend to the idiot and his therapy group who was suppossed to sue everbody here and close shit down lol! what are you talking about? | ||
Shaylie
Denmark8 Posts
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MrCeeJ
United Kingdom57 Posts
Just now I stopped watching for the second, and last, time. He built two depots and 24 scvs on mins and then afk'd, currently he has nearly 3k minerals banked and is just trolling the people watching 'HAHA YOU DONT KNOW WHAT I AM DOING'. If my hamster was playing SC2 I wouldn't have a clue what it was doing either, but that doesn't mean I would go support its advertising revenue while it goes and spoils a game for 7 other people. It is a shame because when he was playing well it was a good multiplayer stream to watch but now it is just as entertaining as going to the kindergarten to watch kids troll each other. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 23 2011 22:56 MrCeeJ wrote: I used to really enjoy this stream, watching some high lvl 2v2 and interesting tactics, builds, etc but the last two times I have gone on he has just been trolling his team mates, and being a douchebag. Just now I stopped watching for the second, and last, time. He built two depots and 24 scvs on mins and then afk'd, currently he has nearly 3k minerals banked and is just trolling the people watching 'HAHA YOU DONT KNOW WHAT I AM DOING'. If my hamster was playing SC2 I wouldn't have a clue what it was doing either, but that doesn't mean I would go support its advertising revenue while it goes and spoils a game for 7 other people. It is a shame because when he was playing well it was a good multiplayer stream to watch but now it is just as entertaining as going to the kindergarten to watch kids troll each other. Then don't watch the stream, when i'm trolling no one is forcing you to sit there and watch it. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On July 14 2011 10:14 JiYan wrote: i wish there was something that can be done about this long wait time for finding games :[ i suppose once the servers merge it might be a little easier This is exactly why I do bronze 4v4, so my viewers dont have to sit there and wait 20 mins for a que just staring at the screen. On another note normally I take a vote, so if you see me trolling low level bronze 4v4s it's because it was voted on. I'm really sick and tired of people attacking my stream when no one is sitting there forcing you to watch the nonsense. " To each his own. " If you don't like it, just leave trust me, you wont hurt my feelings. EDIT: A lot of people think that my stream is just simply trolling all the time, but if you actually sit there and watch the stream the majority of the time it's just sitting in a 2v2 que waiting for a game to pop. I spend most of the time playing 2v2 or 1v1. | ||
snailz
Croatia900 Posts
On July 23 2011 22:56 MrCeeJ wrote: I used to really enjoy this stream, watching some high lvl 2v2 and interesting tactics, builds, etc but the last two times I have gone on he has just been trolling his team mates, and being a douchebag. Just now I stopped watching for the second, and last, time. He built two depots and 24 scvs on mins and then afk'd, currently he has nearly 3k minerals banked and is just trolling the people watching 'HAHA YOU DONT KNOW WHAT I AM DOING'. If my hamster was playing SC2 I wouldn't have a clue what it was doing either, but that doesn't mean I would go support its advertising revenue while it goes and spoils a game for 7 other people. It is a shame because when he was playing well it was a good multiplayer stream to watch but now it is just as entertaining as going to the kindergarten to watch kids troll each other. you left out the part when he builds 25 barracks, lifts them all up at the same time and sends them scattered from each other to enemy half of the map, and when they all go "???" he says WHO CALLED IN THE FLEET fucking priceless entertainment right there )) | ||
Shaylie
Denmark8 Posts
"EDIT: A lot of people think that my stream is just simply trolling all the time, but if you actually sit there and watch the stream the majority of the time it's just sitting in a 2v2 que waiting for a game to pop. I spend most of the time playing 2v2 or 1v1." This B true.... @MrCeej: i think its funny how you were able to tune in to the stream at the exact time where ProT is trolling - two times in a row and then proclaim his stream is nothing but shit these days, i mean thats some serious skillz there!. Atleast try to make it a little less obvious that you actually are on the stream and just waiting for moment when he actually goes in troll mode for those 30-60 mins out of a total of 7-10 hrs playtime, idiot. | ||
MrCeeJ
United Kingdom57 Posts
I guess I just react badly to it and fail to see the humour in it. I do sympathise with the queue times and if it is what your viewers want then who am I to criticise I just thought I would explain why I won't be watching the stream any more, even if I do watch your more serious games on youtube or w/e. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
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geck9
Germany1 Post
good job mr. ballman | ||
klitschKO
18 Posts
but in fact, those "stupid" build orders made me play better. i just realized how bad >= platin players are. and i dont have to fear trying creative styles such as early ghosts, multiple fast expands etc. protechs micro is just insane. and while sc2 more and more becomes a macro heavy game, i really enjoy this diversion. best stream ever! bitch rush 4tw greetz vollpreller | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
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Grouch
Canada152 Posts
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
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Blasphm
France5 Posts
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YunhOLee
Canada2470 Posts
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Deleted User 166296
35 Posts
On August 07 2011 02:25 YunhOLee wrote: you mean you didnt know that someone would eventually get tired of you constantly trolling and talking trash to people and purposely making your teams lose while smurfing? umad? On average, 250 viewers tune in and most of them spam chat for him to do 4v4s. The viewers enjoy it tons, so I'm guessing you're one of the bronze league kids that take 4s seriously? Stop raging. User was warned for this post | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On August 07 2011 02:25 YunhOLee wrote: you mean you didnt know that someone would eventually get tired of you constantly trolling and talking trash to people and purposely making your teams lose while smurfing? that wasn't the reason :\. anyways its been enabled again so its all good (/ ' ' )‿‿( ' ' \) ( ' ' \(。◕ ‿‿◕。)/ ' ' ) hihihi (/ ' ' )‿‿( ' ' \) c u | ||
Elovia
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qkrtncu
Korea (South)11 Posts
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smashedpotato
Australia9 Posts
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jahre
United States95 Posts
I know this because my aka is Extrovert and my 2v2 is pretty high. I get matched with this guy a lot, and although he can be funny and entertaining at times, you should do yourself a favor and not watch this garbage. Oh, and I'm sure he's probably a nice guy in real life, but too bad this is the internet where people feel the need to say and do stupid things. </endrant> | ||
IgnE
United States7681 Posts
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TastelessBuild
United States1 Post
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rawbertson
Canada95 Posts
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rawbertson
Canada95 Posts
On August 09 2011 18:21 jahre wrote: Get this guy off teamliquid. Didn't even know he streamed until recently. Horribly bad mannered when he loses (by either accusing the other team of cheating, being "bad", blaming his ally, or losing due to a build order loss), and is just someone quite unpleasant to be around. I know this because my aka is Extrovert and my 2v2 is pretty high. I get matched with this guy a lot, and although he can be funny and entertaining at times, you should do yourself a favor and not watch this garbage. Oh, and I'm sure he's probably a nice guy in real life, but too bad this is the internet where people feel the need to say and do stupid things. </endrant> you admitted to hacking this morning i was watching the stream you said your ally was telling you exactly what protech was doing. | ||
Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
Love to watch your stream, its the only team stream there is unfortunatly Like the trolling and funny builds like mass raven and orbital also playing 4x4 and purposely loosing from start by killing own workers or prevent partners from making wall by half building tons of structures i just find kinda annoying to see though lol but guess cant have it all Annyway thx for stream, i realy like it 90% of the time and watch it alot | ||
bigbadgreen
United States142 Posts
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jahre
United States95 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:31 rawbertson wrote: Show nested quote + On August 09 2011 18:21 jahre wrote: Get this guy off teamliquid. Didn't even know he streamed until recently. Horribly bad mannered when he loses (by either accusing the other team of cheating, being "bad", blaming his ally, or losing due to a build order loss), and is just someone quite unpleasant to be around. I know this because my aka is Extrovert and my 2v2 is pretty high. I get matched with this guy a lot, and although he can be funny and entertaining at times, you should do yourself a favor and not watch this garbage. Oh, and I'm sure he's probably a nice guy in real life, but too bad this is the internet where people feel the need to say and do stupid things. </endrant> you admitted to hacking this morning i was watching the stream you said your ally was telling you exactly what protech was doing. Actually I didn't admit to hacking, friend. I said my ally was watching his stream and informing me of what he was doing (which, in and of itself, showcases the fact that I did not / wasn't cheating). All my statement showed was a clear correlation of MY ALLY cheating. So, how about you learn to read, and come back when you don't make false claims. Thanks. | ||
rawbertson
Canada95 Posts
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jahre
United States95 Posts
On August 16 2011 20:18 rawbertson wrote: the fact you associate with said cheaters (was an arranged team) just goes to show you how ridiculous you sound. you are only kidding yourself, just because no one can actually "Prove" you were cheating doesnt mean anyone buys your BS. Actually, it was a random team you moron. You make yourself sound stupid. God I hope non of you idiots come to Raleigh. I'd be tempted to punch you in the face. User was warned for this post | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On August 16 2011 20:27 jahre wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2011 20:18 rawbertson wrote: the fact you associate with said cheaters (was an arranged team) just goes to show you how ridiculous you sound. you are only kidding yourself, just because no one can actually "Prove" you were cheating doesnt mean anyone buys your BS. Actually, it was a random team you moron. You make yourself sound stupid. God I hope non of you idiots come to Raleigh. I'd be tempted to punch you in the face. I'm pretty sure this warrants some kind of action from a mod. User was warned for this post | ||
HuTSC2
Australia188 Posts
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worked13
Australia93 Posts
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Pershj5
3 Posts
To all whom complain about 3s or 4s, try streaming yourself, it gets tedious after doing the same thing for 12 (or more) hours at a time. To all whom complain about his BM, take a look at Idra. Should be enough of an example, not to mention he never said he was 'mannered' in first place. He's so nice too, he plays 2s with his viewers at times too! On August 30 2011 20:22 HuTSC2 wrote: Just got banned from your chat for being a 'hacker' alias. Considering my team-mate and I are #1 on SEA for 2v2, just wondering where the random accusations came from T.T I've learned to believe Protech when he says he's able to catch the difference between hackers, stream cheaters, and good game sense, so I understand the paranoia. I'm sorry you were banned, my friend was too (for same reason), but he PM'd a mod and got unbanned, hopefully this'll work. | ||
LtCalley
United States244 Posts
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LtCalley
United States244 Posts
On September 01 2011 05:48 Pershj5 wrote: World #1 2v2er for a reason, very enjoyable, high quality stream, I don't understand why he doesn't get more viewers. Highly skilled player that you can all learn something from, and great selection of Trance/Techno music on his stream. To all whom complain about 3s or 4s, try streaming yourself, it gets tedious after doing the same thing for 12 (or more) hours at a time. To all whom complain about his BM, take a look at Idra. Should be enough of an example, not to mention he never said he was 'mannered' in first place. He's so nice too, he plays 2s with his viewers at times too! Show nested quote + On August 30 2011 20:22 HuTSC2 wrote: Just got banned from your chat for being a 'hacker' alias. Considering my team-mate and I are #1 on SEA for 2v2, just wondering where the random accusations came from T.T I've learned to believe Protech when he says he's able to catch the difference between hackers, stream cheaters, and good game sense, so I understand the paranoia. I'm sorry you were banned, my friend was too (for same reason), but he PM'd a mod and got unbanned, hopefully this'll work. and you would be wrong...he accused me of hacking/stream cheating when i just straight up owned him 5 times in one night. | ||
Blasphm
France5 Posts
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Pershj5
3 Posts
Rooting for you guys Powertech, 'ganbate', amazing opening games! If anyones new to this stream I definitely recommend it, highest quality 2v2s, very satisfied in finding this stream.. | ||
Wheelyman
Canada53 Posts
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hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
I was just thinking, that's about your average viewer count. -levels | ||
Azide
Canada566 Posts
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NrT.RuSH
Germany214 Posts
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
On September 09 2011 07:12 hipsterHobbit wrote: Protech you've probably accused 150 people of stream cheating at this point on your stream. I was just thinking, that's about your average viewer count. -levels Yup, and i'm 100% correct so far on my accusations. | ||
xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On September 09 2011 08:18 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2011 07:12 hipsterHobbit wrote: Protech you've probably accused 150 people of stream cheating at this point on your stream. I was just thinking, that's about your average viewer count. -levels Yup, and i'm 100% correct so far on my accusations. Not in my universe. | ||
nick3kz
United States4 Posts
Every time ive heard him accuse someone of cheating ( handful of times) he's produced a replay as evidence that at least rises some suspicion to the matter. Haters gonna hate always and thats just a fact. | ||
hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
On September 09 2011 08:18 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2011 07:12 hipsterHobbit wrote: Protech you've probably accused 150 people of stream cheating at this point on your stream. I was just thinking, that's about your average viewer count. -levels Yup, and i'm 100% correct so far on my accusations. What am I, someone you've accused of cheating when I haven't and I would never cheat, supposed to say to that? It's a shame you've been given a platform to slander mine and plenty of other people's names with no repercussion. That you called for team wizards to not be "featured" only makes me hope TL admin or whoever is in charge looks closer in to who they actually have featured in you. | ||
dAPhREAk
Nauru12396 Posts
On September 09 2011 08:18 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On September 09 2011 07:12 hipsterHobbit wrote: Protech you've probably accused 150 people of stream cheating at this point on your stream. I was just thinking, that's about your average viewer count. -levels Yup, and i'm 100% correct so far on my accusations. i think the point he was trying to make is that the only people who watch your stream are there to cheat (i.e., you have no real fans). at least, thats what i found amusing about his post. | ||
NrT.RuSH
Germany214 Posts
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On September 10 2011 08:55 NrT.RuSH wrote: Nice, Ban me from your chat. Cool Story Bro idk why you were banned since i've been busy with moving but you showed up in chat less than 2 times in the last 6 months = you're not missing out on your end and the last time you kept banning some guy that I kept having to unban (including after I left) = chat not missing out on their end | ||
Nostrap
United States21 Posts
Anyhow, I would like to be unbanned as I do enjoy the stream. | ||
pintoboss
Portugal3 Posts
PintBoss thaths the user think u done it cuz i said the lyote kill of wizards could be coincidence lol my bad i would like to continue to enjoy the stream tks bro | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On September 11 2011 20:53 Nostrap wrote: Playing 2v2s. Happened to get cued up against protech. Went ling. My ally decided to go hellion. Beat protech. Went into stream afterwards. Got banned for "being a piece of shit that goes hellion ling." As if I had planned that all along or something. I can't really control random teams son. Anyhow, I would like to be unbanned as I do enjoy the stream. Unbanned, rage ban. Unbanned the other guy too, rage ban. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On September 10 2011 08:55 NrT.RuSH wrote: Nice, Ban me from your chat. Cool Story Bro I banned you from my stream because your AKA is moO. You play with sorcery, knowing he is a hacker and I don't think you deserve to be in my stream. Second of all you're backing up TeamWizards. | ||
Xifi
Norway2 Posts
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nastyyy
United States262 Posts
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
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lulzury
United States236 Posts
He shouts obscenities at his allies, complain about 2v2 random and how retarded his allies were. Yet he keeps queuing up the 2v2 random. He says that he only ever only loses because his allies are "bronze" players. He also never communicated with his opponents. Don't watch; this guy is very racist. Oh and if you have ever beaten him, you ARE A KNOWN HACKER. | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On September 26 2011 11:13 lulzury wrote: I don't know why this guy is featured over someone like EGAxlav, Nadagast, or VPGamers. He shouts obscenities at his allies, complain about 2v2 random and how retarded his allies were. Yet he keeps queuing up the 2v2 random. He says that he only ever only loses because his allies are "bronze" players. He also never communicated with his opponents. Don't watch; this guy is very racist. Oh and if you have ever beaten him, you ARE A KNOWN HACKER. On September 25 2011 21:44 lulzury wrote: Another example of people making drama out of nothing. People get get mad when they lose and might say some things that they don't mean. Get over it. EVERYONE does it. ????? | ||
lulzury
United States236 Posts
On September 26 2011 18:10 askTeivospy wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2011 11:13 lulzury wrote: I don't know why this guy is featured over someone like EGAxlav, Nadagast, or VPGamers. He shouts obscenities at his allies, complain about 2v2 random and how retarded his allies were. Yet he keeps queuing up the 2v2 random. He says that he only ever only loses because his allies are "bronze" players. He also never communicated with his opponents. Don't watch; this guy is very racist. Oh and if you have ever beaten him, you ARE A KNOWN HACKER. Show nested quote + On September 25 2011 21:44 lulzury wrote: Another example of people making drama out of nothing. People get get mad when they lose and might say some things that they don't mean. Get over it. EVERYONE does it. ????? I don't know why this guy is featured over someone like EGAxlav, Nadagast, or VPGamers. Being good at 2v2s has NEVER and will NEVER be anything more than something seen as a "team game" in Starcraft 2. GL in GSL Protech. OH wait, they don't cater to 2v2s. | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On September 26 2011 11:13 lulzury wrote: I don't know why this guy is featured over someone like EGAxlav, Nadagast, or VPGamers. He shouts obscenities at his allies, complain about 2v2 random and how retarded his allies were. Yet he keeps queuing up the 2v2 random. He says that he only ever only loses because his allies are "bronze" players. He also never communicated with his opponents. Don't watch; this guy is very racist. Oh and if you have ever beaten him, you ARE A KNOWN HACKER. Most of this can be said about our beloved IdrA. =) | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On September 26 2011 20:05 lulzury wrote: Show nested quote + On September 26 2011 18:10 askTeivospy wrote: On September 26 2011 11:13 lulzury wrote: I don't know why this guy is featured over someone like EGAxlav, Nadagast, or VPGamers. He shouts obscenities at his allies, complain about 2v2 random and how retarded his allies were. Yet he keeps queuing up the 2v2 random. He says that he only ever only loses because his allies are "bronze" players. He also never communicated with his opponents. Don't watch; this guy is very racist. Oh and if you have ever beaten him, you ARE A KNOWN HACKER. On September 25 2011 21:44 lulzury wrote: Another example of people making drama out of nothing. People get get mad when they lose and might say some things that they don't mean. Get over it. EVERYONE does it. ????? Show nested quote + I don't know why this guy is featured over someone like EGAxlav, Nadagast, or VPGamers. Being good at 2v2s has NEVER and will NEVER be anything more than something seen as a "team game" in Starcraft 2. GL in GSL Protech. OH wait, they don't cater to 2v2s. this is deeZer trolling | ||
lulzury
United States236 Posts
this is deeZer trolling While you are here, why don't you answer everyone's question: Why are you featured over someone like EGAxlav, Nadagast, VPGamers, or Magulina, | ||
Alabasern
United States4005 Posts
I enjoy the electronica and variety. | ||
oDieN[Siege]
United States2897 Posts
Also if you can unban the account Jinju_ No idea how I got banned, tyty~ | ||
Zealo
Australia40 Posts
is there anywhere to see the vods of PTSL2 games with powertech voice chat? | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On October 13 2011 13:06 Zealo wrote: my favourite stream by far, watching protech has made 2v2 my favourite format. huge respect for this guy. is there anywhere to see the vods of PTSL2 games with powertech voice chat? protechsc2.com | ||
OenzoXIII
United States16 Posts
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CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
He is blatantly racist and calls people the " N " word while streaming on this site. And calls people " f*cking f*ags" when he loses. I don't condone any sort of racism, that is just offensive and wrong. | ||
hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On October 21 2011 12:59 hipsterHobbit wrote: Not only that, he accuses many people who beat him of stream cheating, and while he may certainly fall prey to cheaters occasionally, to call someone who doesn't a cheater to >200 viewers is unfair as they have no way to defend themselves against the accusations. This is the first time that I'm looking through this thread but it's clear that you have a personal vendetta against Protech. If you have such a problem, then why do you even bother to come in here? TLers, if you really want to post something negative but it doesn't really need to be said THEN JUST DON'T POST. | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
On October 21 2011 13:28 kingjames01 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 21 2011 12:59 hipsterHobbit wrote: Not only that, he accuses many people who beat him of stream cheating, and while he may certainly fall prey to cheaters occasionally, to call someone who doesn't a cheater to >200 viewers is unfair as they have no way to defend themselves against the accusations. This is the first time that I'm looking through this thread but it's clear that you have a personal vendetta against Protech. If you have such a problem, then why do you even bother to come in here? TLers, if you really want to post something negative but it doesn't really need to be said THEN JUST DON'T POST. It is called community feed back. This is a web site dedicated to a Starcraft 2 team and a Community Forum An online forum in which people express their opinions... Thank-You | ||
kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On October 21 2011 13:36 CHOMPMannER wrote: Show nested quote + On October 21 2011 13:28 kingjames01 wrote: On October 21 2011 12:59 hipsterHobbit wrote: Not only that, he accuses many people who beat him of stream cheating, and while he may certainly fall prey to cheaters occasionally, to call someone who doesn't a cheater to >200 viewers is unfair as they have no way to defend themselves against the accusations. This is the first time that I'm looking through this thread but it's clear that you have a personal vendetta against Protech. If you have such a problem, then why do you even bother to come in here? TLers, if you really want to post something negative but it doesn't really need to be said THEN JUST DON'T POST. It is called community feed back. This is a web site dedicated to a Starcraft 2 team and a Community Forum An online forum in which people express their opinions... Thank-You Opinions are fine, but forums are characterized by DISCUSSION and DEBATE. There are many examples of negative comments that are posted around TL that are not designed to allow for a continued discussion. Those have no place in... (um... what did you call it? Oh right.) On October 21 2011 13:36 CHOMPMannER wrote: a Community Forum Thank-You Your comment is a good one because you allow room for agreement or dissent. The person I quoted above does not. If hipsterHobbit has an issue with ProTech, then he should converse in PM. His behaviour is the internet equivalent of sitting outside of a business and telling everyone not to go in because he had a bad experience. Since that is the case, then he should express his thoughts in privacy and as I said JUST DON'T POST. | ||
hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
On October 21 2011 13:28 kingjames01 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 21 2011 12:59 hipsterHobbit wrote: Not only that, he accuses many people who beat him of stream cheating, and while he may certainly fall prey to cheaters occasionally, to call someone who doesn't a cheater to >200 viewers is unfair as they have no way to defend themselves against the accusations. This is the first time that I'm looking through this thread but it's clear that you have a personal vendetta against Protech. If you have such a problem, then why do you even bother to come in here? TLers, if you really want to post something negative but it doesn't really need to be said THEN JUST DON'T POST. How is what I said negative? I'm sick of being called a cheater to a large audience with no way to defend myself when I'm NOT, never have been, and never will be. As for a "vendetta"... Would you just take getting slandered as no big deal? I like playing starcraft, and I care about my reputation to an extent. So what? | ||
kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On October 21 2011 14:21 hipsterHobbit wrote: Show nested quote + On October 21 2011 13:28 kingjames01 wrote: On October 21 2011 12:59 hipsterHobbit wrote: Not only that, he accuses many people who beat him of stream cheating, and while he may certainly fall prey to cheaters occasionally, to call someone who doesn't a cheater to >200 viewers is unfair as they have no way to defend themselves against the accusations. This is the first time that I'm looking through this thread but it's clear that you have a personal vendetta against Protech. If you have such a problem, then why do you even bother to come in here? TLers, if you really want to post something negative but it doesn't really need to be said THEN JUST DON'T POST. How is what I said negative? I'm sick of being called a cheater to a large audience with no way to defend myself when I'm NOT, never have been, and never will be. As for a "vendetta"... Would you just take getting slandered as no big deal? I like playing starcraft, and I care about my reputation to an extent. So what? That's not the point. You said your piece. Fine, I believe you. You're not a hacker. (Ironically, I would never even have known about you hacking against ProTech if you hadn't posted in here.) However, you already defended yourself. By continuing to post your grievances, you are now acting petty. Suppose that every time someone talks to you, a stranger pops out of the shadows and denounces you. That would reflect poorly on you, yeah, but it would make that stranger look awfully stupid... | ||
hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
I'm not going to argue with you. You just changed the entire crux of your argument, and personally, I don't care about your opinion either way. I just hope someone of importance on the TL staff takes note of this and if they feel it is unfair as I (and probably many others who don't speak up) do and they take appropriate action. | ||
kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On October 21 2011 14:43 hipsterHobbit wrote: yes, how ironic I'm not going to argue with you. You just changed the entire crux of your argument, and personally, I don't care about your opinion either way. I just hope someone of importance on the TL staff takes note of this and if they feel it is unfair as I (and probably many others who don't speak up) do and they take appropriate action. Since you continue to frequent this thread, clearly, at personal angst and pain, you must have a vested interest for doing so. I understand that you feel that you received unfair treatment from this streamer. I also understand that you feel that you are entitled to some remediation. However, if you felt that you received unfair service at a restaurant, you would speak to the staff. You would not sit outside and tell everyone your story. You would not call the police to apply sanctions. What do you think TeamLiquid should do for you here? Why don't you just contact ProTech and have him recant his statement? He probably just said it in the heat of the moment. Passionate people playing a passionate game are going to make passionate remarks. To summarize my points which have NOT changed:
Finally, it really is ironic if you objectively think about it. It's also kind of humourous. Here, let me summarize this as well:
BOOM. IRONY. | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
http://www.mediafire.com/i/?imram84c7s2uaiw | ||
dAPhREAk
Nauru12396 Posts
On October 22 2011 11:32 CHOMPMannER wrote: Looks like Protech is at it again... Just turned on his stream and he is team killing his ally... http://www.mediafire.com/i/?imram84c7s2uaiw ironically, by posting in his stream thread you are giving him free advertising. if you dont like his stream, just dont watch it and ignore him. | ||
hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
Featured 2v2 streamer. more like featured bad attitude | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On October 22 2011 11:32 CHOMPMannER wrote: Looks like Protech is at it again... Just turned on his stream and he is team killing his ally... http://www.mediafire.com/i/?imram84c7s2uaiw I wasn't watching until the end but from what I saw aiproclan is getting queued with protech consistently and he isn't doing anything so the other team can win. protech is trying to get #1 RT in world but since proclan has #1 RT atm on euro server he's making protech lose games on purpose so he can maintain his rank. Thats the reason why he's playing counterstrike atm and not SC2 Of course he would have #1 RT or be much closer to it if it werent for the fact you teamkilled him like 20 times in a row a few weeks ago (of which protech saved replays to send to Blizzard) Oh and mannerchomp, you're hardly a moral authority on anything mr comes in streamchat and tells me about how he steals empty kegs from brewery on graville island to sell on craigslist and is now being hunted down by that company | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
On October 21 2011 12:48 CHOMPMannER wrote: Hmm I don't think this guys stream should be featured on Team Liquid. He is blatantly racist and calls people the " N " word while streaming on this site. And calls people " f*cking f*ags" when he loses. I don't condone any sort of racism, that is just offensive and wrong. There's a little button you click upon entering my stream " This stream contains inappropriate material for minors, by clicking i am 18 years of age or older you understand that you're 18 years of age or older. " not exactly, but the point is this stream is not for 15 year olds sorry if you can't handle the language. you are also guilty of the same thing aiproclan was doing. so don't flood my thread with your nonsense. | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
On October 22 2011 12:54 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On October 21 2011 12:48 CHOMPMannER wrote: Hmm I don't think this guys stream should be featured on Team Liquid. He is blatantly racist and calls people the " N " word while streaming on this site. And calls people " f*cking f*ags" when he loses. I don't condone any sort of racism, that is just offensive and wrong. There's a little button you click upon entering my stream " This stream contains inappropriate material for minors, by clicking i am 18 years of age or older you understand that you're 18 years of age or older. " not exactly, but the point is this stream is not for 15 year olds sorry if you can't handle the language. you are also guilty of the same thing aiproclan was doing. so don't flood my thread with your nonsense. Yeah by clicking that I expect to see explicit language, not racism Mr. Mike Racism like any other form of bigotry and oppression is absolutely wrong because it denigrates and dehumanizes people. Every creature on this planet has the inalienable right to be treated with dignity. No person or group has the right to proclaim social superiority over any other. It is absolutely wrong /unjust for any person or group to vilify, oppress, persecute and terrorize others for their selfish amusement or aggrandizement. Its socially unacceptable. | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On October 22 2011 12:51 CHOMPMannER wrote: Show nested quote + On October 22 2011 12:38 askTeivospy wrote: On October 22 2011 11:32 CHOMPMannER wrote: Looks like Protech is at it again... Just turned on his stream and he is team killing his ally... http://www.mediafire.com/i/?imram84c7s2uaiw I wasn't watching until the end but from what I saw aiproclan is getting queued with protech consistently and he isn't doing anything so the other team can win. protech is trying to get #1 RT in world but since proclan has #1 RT atm on euro server he's making protech lose games on purpose so he can maintain his rank. Thats the reason why he's playing counterstrike atm and not SC2 Of course he would have #1 RT or be much closer to it if it werent for the fact you teamkilled him like 20 times in a row a few weeks ago (of which protech saved replays to send to Blizzard) Oh and mannerchomp, you're hardly a moral authority on anything mr comes in streamchat and tells me about how he steals empty kegs from brewery on graville island to sell on craigslist and is now being hunted down by that company Anyone with a brain bigger than a pea knows protech is a baby... and by you believing everything he says means you got the dumb bro Since you like screenshots why dont you go take screenshots of the army graph of the last 20 games protech played with aiproclan and try to photoshop it so it looks like aiproclan was actually making army. then come in this thread and claim protech is teamkilling his teammates on stream while he's trying to rank up in RT ladder | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
On October 22 2011 13:06 askTeivospy wrote: Show nested quote + On October 22 2011 12:51 CHOMPMannER wrote: On October 22 2011 12:38 askTeivospy wrote: On October 22 2011 11:32 CHOMPMannER wrote: Looks like Protech is at it again... Just turned on his stream and he is team killing his ally... http://www.mediafire.com/i/?imram84c7s2uaiw I wasn't watching until the end but from what I saw aiproclan is getting queued with protech consistently and he isn't doing anything so the other team can win. protech is trying to get #1 RT in world but since proclan has #1 RT atm on euro server he's making protech lose games on purpose so he can maintain his rank. Thats the reason why he's playing counterstrike atm and not SC2 Of course he would have #1 RT or be much closer to it if it werent for the fact you teamkilled him like 20 times in a row a few weeks ago (of which protech saved replays to send to Blizzard) Oh and mannerchomp, you're hardly a moral authority on anything mr comes in streamchat and tells me about how he steals empty kegs from brewery on graville island to sell on craigslist and is now being hunted down by that company Anyone with a brain bigger than a pea knows protech is a baby... and by you believing everything he says means you got the dumb bro Since you like screenshots why dont you go take screenshots of the army graph of the last 20 games protech played with aiproclan and try to photoshop it so it looks like aiproclan was actually making army. then come in this thread and claim protech is teamkilling his teammates on stream while he's trying to rank up in RT ladder Hmm I see nothing wrong with the way AIProClan was playing he is the #1 Ranked RT player in the world and is just trying new builds. Every player has the right in which to play the game how he/she wants to play, and it is not up to you to determine if he is playing wrong or not. I saw him trying mass Raven strategies, which there is nothing wrong with trying new things since the 2v2 META game hasn't really changed since the new maps came out. Maybe go read the EULA before you determine what is right or wrong. BTW Teivo I am interested to know what league you are in? Since you believe everything Protech says about stream cheaters and what not... I guess your knowledge and game sense is not very high... No Offence. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On October 22 2011 12:58 CHOMPMannER wrote: Show nested quote + On October 22 2011 12:54 ProTech wrote: On October 21 2011 12:48 CHOMPMannER wrote: Hmm I don't think this guys stream should be featured on Team Liquid. He is blatantly racist and calls people the " N " word while streaming on this site. And calls people " f*cking f*ags" when he loses. I don't condone any sort of racism, that is just offensive and wrong. There's a little button you click upon entering my stream " This stream contains inappropriate material for minors, by clicking i am 18 years of age or older you understand that you're 18 years of age or older. " not exactly, but the point is this stream is not for 15 year olds sorry if you can't handle the language. you are also guilty of the same thing aiproclan was doing. so don't flood my thread with your nonsense. Yeah by clicking that I expect to see explicit language, not racism Mr. Mike Racism like any other form of bigotry and oppression is absolutely wrong because it denigrates and dehumanizes people. Every creature on this planet has the inalienable right to be treated with dignity. No person or group has the right to proclaim social superiority over any other. It is absolutely wrong /unjust for any person or group to vilify, oppress, persecute and terrorize others for their selfish amusement or aggrandizement. Its socially unacceptable. No it's not, and we all know that you're taking this out of context completelty im not being racist. Sure, I said the N word, but i've said many times on my stream that im not racist, so grow up. | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On October 22 2011 13:09 CHOMPMannER wrote: Show nested quote + On October 22 2011 13:06 askTeivospy wrote: On October 22 2011 12:51 CHOMPMannER wrote: On October 22 2011 12:38 askTeivospy wrote: On October 22 2011 11:32 CHOMPMannER wrote: Looks like Protech is at it again... Just turned on his stream and he is team killing his ally... http://www.mediafire.com/i/?imram84c7s2uaiw I wasn't watching until the end but from what I saw aiproclan is getting queued with protech consistently and he isn't doing anything so the other team can win. protech is trying to get #1 RT in world but since proclan has #1 RT atm on euro server he's making protech lose games on purpose so he can maintain his rank. Thats the reason why he's playing counterstrike atm and not SC2 Of course he would have #1 RT or be much closer to it if it werent for the fact you teamkilled him like 20 times in a row a few weeks ago (of which protech saved replays to send to Blizzard) Oh and mannerchomp, you're hardly a moral authority on anything mr comes in streamchat and tells me about how he steals empty kegs from brewery on graville island to sell on craigslist and is now being hunted down by that company Anyone with a brain bigger than a pea knows protech is a baby... and by you believing everything he says means you got the dumb bro Since you like screenshots why dont you go take screenshots of the army graph of the last 20 games protech played with aiproclan and try to photoshop it so it looks like aiproclan was actually making army. then come in this thread and claim protech is teamkilling his teammates on stream while he's trying to rank up in RT ladder Hmm I see nothing wrong with the way AIProClan was playing he is the #1 Ranked RT player in the world and is just trying new builds. Every player has the right in which to play the game how he/she wants to play, and it is not up to you to determine if he is playing wrong or not. I saw him trying mass Raven strategies, which there is nothing wrong with trying new things since the 2v2 META game hasn't really changed since the new maps came out. Maybe go read the EULA before you determine what is right or wrong. Trying new builds. This is the army graph from that game of the screenshot that you posted (If i compare the time in screenshot with the resource collection graph it definitely is the same game). Note how none of protechs units are actually damaged. You'd think they would be damaged if proclan had some army available to attack at 10 minutes. http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=imram84c7s2uaiw this is what battle.net says about the game: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8181355/mannerchamp.png #1 2v2r RT: ~2K unspent with 500 collection rate. Great builds. btw here i photoshopped that army graph for that game for you: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8181355/mannerphoto.png go photoshop the other 10-15 games where aiproclan did nothing (don't worry, in the 1 game where he was put on the other team he actually made some army so theres some less work for you too) | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
On October 22 2011 11:44 hipsterHobbit wrote: He's intentionally making his allies lose because he's having a bad night. Featured 2v2 streamer. more like featured bad attitude he also left out that this person was also involved in the shenanigans | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On October 22 2011 13:30 CHOMPMannER wrote: http://memegenerator.net/instance/10813356 dood you are obsessed with protech 100% rofl. anyways i just showed you are more or less a liar so im out c u | ||
SoKHo
Korea (South)1081 Posts
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GoldRogers
19 Posts
He literally bans people who beat him from watching his stream afterwards. Extremely ill-manned and immature. | ||
Rive
United States11 Posts
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2897 Posts
On October 22 2011 12:58 CHOMPMannER wrote: Show nested quote + On October 22 2011 12:54 ProTech wrote: On October 21 2011 12:48 CHOMPMannER wrote: Hmm I don't think this guys stream should be featured on Team Liquid. He is blatantly racist and calls people the " N " word while streaming on this site. And calls people " f*cking f*ags" when he loses. I don't condone any sort of racism, that is just offensive and wrong. There's a little button you click upon entering my stream " This stream contains inappropriate material for minors, by clicking i am 18 years of age or older you understand that you're 18 years of age or older. " not exactly, but the point is this stream is not for 15 year olds sorry if you can't handle the language. you are also guilty of the same thing aiproclan was doing. so don't flood my thread with your nonsense. Yeah by clicking that I expect to see explicit language, not racism Mr. Mike + Show Spoiler + Racism like any other form of bigotry and oppression is absolutely wrong because it denigrates and dehumanizes people. Every creature on this planet has the inalienable right to be treated with dignity. No person or group has the right to proclaim social superiority over any other. It is absolutely wrong /unjust for any person or group to vilify, oppress, persecute and terrorize others for their selfish amusement or aggrandizement. Its socially unacceptable. I definitely agree with you, sir. There is a difference between the two.. some people are just too blind to notice. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
He would stalk him irl if he could | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
Hes probably scared now after I beat his buddy tehredbandit the other day. I'll give him 25 $ if he wants to make up for his stream revenue. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On October 31 2011 20:22 CHOMPMannER wrote: Lol Protech would get owned by me in 1v1, but hes never accepted the grudge match with his stream off. Hes probably scared now after I beat his buddy tehredbandit the other day. I'll give him 25 $ if he wants to make up for his stream revenue. k you send money, and we still dont play. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On October 26 2011 10:27 SoKHo wrote: Just found out he's only diamond in 1v1 O_O thought he'd be at least low master I use many different accounts so that I can find 2v2s faster for my stream. If I try searching for a game on my main account it can take up to 30 mins at a time. That being said, whatever you " see " my ranks are in other leagues always keep in mind that if you don't see " haCkProTech " it was not my account originally. I am not diamond in 1v1, I am mid-high masters You can check my match history on haCkProTech and see that I play against named players in 1v1 as well. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On October 31 2011 15:54 Rive wrote: Poor PorkTech The Pros think hes trash and the Newbs don't Care about him....for someone who plays 16 hours a day that makes me sad, Starcraft Purgatory Hmm, and you are friends with sorcery. That's the reason I banned you and demod you, don't get the wrong idea you're cool. It's just that I can't have people who are associated with sorcery as a mod on my stream. | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
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Rive
United States11 Posts
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MaV_gGSC
Canada1345 Posts
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SlimeBagly
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CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
sup son? | ||
zul
Germany5427 Posts
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Rive
United States11 Posts
On November 01 2011 22:08 CHOMPMannER wrote: protech check 1v1 grandmaster? sup son? Congratulations to Mannerchomp, He is someone who should be featured since he's actually grandmaster and all, oh well | ||
Azide
Canada566 Posts
On October 31 2011 20:22 CHOMPMannER wrote: Lol Protech would get owned by me in 1v1, but hes never accepted the grudge match with his stream off. Hes probably scared now after I beat his buddy tehredbandit the other day. I'll give him 25 $ if he wants to make up for his stream revenue. mannerchomp would rape protech ez. GM vs diamond LOL LOL @ defeatured. wow. protech hit an all new low in his 14 year career | ||
GoldRogers
19 Posts
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Rive
United States11 Posts
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GoldRogers
19 Posts
On November 02 2011 01:39 Rive wrote: The only way Mannerchomp would win would be....Stream Cheating...Hacking....The Map....Bad Position....Lag...More Hacks...More Stream Cheating...Off Race...Stream Cheating....Production Hack...3 Monitors With Hacks.....The Map...uhhh i think i covered them all? You forgot race imbalance but yea pretty comprehensive. | ||
Rive
United States11 Posts
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Azide
Canada566 Posts
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Rive
United States11 Posts
On November 02 2011 01:43 Azide wrote: you forgot mannerchomp would be playing protoss and that race is imba now since the immortal buff patch. not to mention all the fucking shit they can do yet being regarded as the worst race LMAO | ||
oDieN[Siege]
United States2897 Posts
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Makica
Canada180 Posts
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
@Gold: Did you actually make an account just to BM somebody in their own streaming topic? Lmfao. How old are you exactly? @Odien: Wow, really? That's pretty BM of you, son. @Azide: He's actually not Diamond 1v1, but nice try. Oh wait, no it wasn't. Edit: @Makica: You sure are exaggerating a fair bit. He doesn't accuse EVERYBODY of stream cheating. It's the small group of people (like Mannerchomp) that constantly match up with him and do their usual BM/garbage, and "just happen" to do the exact opener that's strong (or the counter) vs the build that he does, regardless of which opener he happens to do without scouting. If he actually DID accuse everybody, he wouldn't have a fanbase at all. Also, IdrA calls like everybody bad. IdrA complains about abusive strategies. What's your point about that? | ||
oDieN[Siege]
United States2897 Posts
On November 02 2011 03:15 VashTS wrote: @Rive: Why you so BM towards ProTech now? Thought you guys were cool. You that mad about losing mod powers in a chat room? @Gold: Did you actually make an account just to BM somebody in their own streaming topic? Lmfao. How old are you exactly? @Odien: Wow, really? That's pretty BM of you, son. @Azide: He's actually not Diamond 1v1, but nice try. Oh wait, no it wasn't. Whoa whoa, I'm sorry Mr. Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player IN TEH' WOOOOOOOORLD in 2009. I so sawwy. Pwease forgive moi. | ||
Azide
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
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GoldRogers
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
That's great. Edit: Also, IdrA is not Code S Also, Protech doesn't cheese every game. Also, he doesn't accuse EVERYBODY of bs/cheating. Use less lying, please. If you're gonna make him look bad, at least make it accurate. | ||
Azide
Canada566 Posts
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Makica
Canada180 Posts
On November 02 2011 03:15 VashTS wrote: @Rive: Why you so BM towards ProTech now? Thought you guys were cool. You that mad about losing mod powers in a chat room? @Gold: Did you actually make an account just to BM somebody in their own streaming topic? Lmfao. How old are you exactly? @Odien: Wow, really? That's pretty BM of you, son. @Azide: He's actually not Diamond 1v1, but nice try. Oh wait, no it wasn't. Edit: @Makica: You sure are exaggerating a fair bit. He doesn't accuse EVERYBODY of stream cheating. It's the small group of people (like Mannerchomp) that constantly match up with him and do their usual BM/garbage, and "just happen" to do the exact opener that's strong (or the counter) vs the build that he does, regardless of which opener he happens to do without scouting. If he actually DID accuse everybody, he wouldn't have a fanbase at all. Also, IdrA calls like everybody bad. IdrA complains about abusive strategies. What's your point about that? I didn't say he accuses everyone of stream cheating. I said he disparages everyone he loses to in different ways. Some people do match him and stream cheat. However, this is probably 10% of those whom he accuses of doing so. | ||
hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
Good job alienating the entire community from 2v2 as well as alienating yourself. Glad TL supported that so long | ||
SlimeBagly
356 Posts
I couldn't care less what his 1v1 rank is, he's got his niche in 2v2 and he's really good at it. | ||
RastaMonsta
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askTeivospy
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CursedFeanor
Canada539 Posts
Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally. Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching! | ||
oDieN[Siege]
United States2897 Posts
On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote: It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not. Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally. Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching! ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him. He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured. | ||
Rive
United States11 Posts
On November 02 2011 03:15 VashTS wrote: @Rive: Why you so BM towards ProTech now? Thought you guys were cool. You that mad about losing mod powers in a chat room? @Gold: Did you actually make an account just to BM somebody in their own streaming topic? Lmfao. How old are you exactly? @Odien: Wow, really? That's pretty BM of you, son. @Azide: He's actually not Diamond 1v1, but nice try. Oh wait, no it wasn't. Edit: @Makica: You sure are exaggerating a fair bit. He doesn't accuse EVERYBODY of stream cheating. It's the small group of people (like Mannerchomp) that constantly match up with him and do their usual BM/garbage, and "just happen" to do the exact opener that's strong (or the counter) vs the build that he does, regardless of which opener he happens to do without scouting. If he actually DID accuse everybody, he wouldn't have a fanbase at all. Also, IdrA calls like everybody bad. IdrA complains about abusive strategies. What's your point about that? No VashTS i am not upset of losing my "MOD" I am annoyed with his constant complaining. He Decides to Report Players for Trolling him, when he did the same exact thing to lower level players! Hypocritical? I think So. The Fact that every good player in the 2v2 scene thinks hes a total douche bag must mean something. | ||
stormchaser
Canada1009 Posts
On November 02 2011 05:45 ODieN wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote: It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not. Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally. Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching! ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him. He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured. I think this man said it best. Not to mention, I don't remember him ever getting over 100 viewers, why feature a stream that isn't generally popular? | ||
SlimeBagly
356 Posts
On November 02 2011 05:45 ODieN wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote: It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not. Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally. Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching! ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him. He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured. I'll believe that's the reason when they de-feature destiny. | ||
dAPhREAk
Nauru12396 Posts
On November 02 2011 06:01 SlimeBagly wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 05:45 ODieN wrote: On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote: It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not. Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally. Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching! ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him. He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured. I'll believe that's the reason when they de-feature destiny. destiny is still featured. they dont care about the whole "nigger" thing. probably because its an above 18 years old stream. you guys arent focusing on the correct thing though. protech should be happy that he was defeatured. now that he is in the graveyard, nobody is going to take the time to find his stream. ergo, less stream cheating. focus on the silver lining. | ||
Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
On November 02 2011 06:01 SlimeBagly wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 05:45 ODieN wrote: On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote: It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not. Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally. Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching! ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him. He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured. I'll believe that's the reason when they de-feature destiny. Nazgul wrote in the site changes thread that they might have overlooked the contribution of ProTech (probably because he plays team games) and that they will have an internal discussion about him. This might be a good idea to post here with your views. Edit: Also post here. | ||
GoldRogers
19 Posts
On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote: It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not. Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally. Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching! This guy is obviously trolling, calling someone who only knows how to 4 gate as toss, the best 2v2 player in the world is rediculous. All of his arranged teammates are GM's or former GM's which is the only reason he won the PTSL. Power/destructive, tehredbandit, has a higher score than him 90% of the games (carrying). This bitter immature person only knows how to all in and he does it very well, but that doesn't qualify him to be the "best" 2v2 player. There is a reason Team Wizards got picked up by fnatic and protech is teamless. When you try to troll, at least make it less obvious. | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
Anyways I post this in the other thread Protech 1. High skill level / tournament results > 1v1 rank masters and despite being a 2v2'r he queued up against GM players whenever he plays 1v1 on his main account. 4th in first PTSL and 1st in second ptsl and obviously will be high in the next one. Routinely gets top score on 2v2 random team ladder even with people teamkilling him 2. High average viewer count > not sure what high is but he averages 250-400 people during euro times, not sure about american times. 3. Notability / contribution -> only dedicated 2v2 streamer in a slew of 1v1 users. 1v1 is great but esports needs to exist outside of 1v1 sc2 and A LOT of people enjoy 2v2. 2v2 isn't relatively popular compared to 1v1 of course but if this bracket needs to grow it needs dedicated streamers 4. Activity -> streams all the time refeature plz | ||
Mythito
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nick3kz
United States4 Posts
From what i have seen generally if you dont troll him he wont troll you back. I know he's not manner all the time but that shouldnt take away from how good this guy really is. He has the talent to be a good 1v1 player if he set his mind too it. And like him or not he has a ton of knowledge about the game. He is always giving good information and he knows the ins and outs of all the races. For players who aren't masters caliber like myself his stream is a very good stream to learn from as 90%+ of the streams out there the casters rarely if ever give insight into why they go certain builds or what they are seeing. His stream count seems to avg around 300 in the evening Central time but ive seen it around 1000 before during the Night hours on the NA server. Having TL not feature his stream would be a disservice to esports and the game of SC2 specifically. I believe he should be re-featured. | ||
Perseverance
Japan2800 Posts
On November 02 2011 08:05 Mythito wrote: Where it's true Protech blames too many people for cheating in some way, it's reasonable that he does that because there are like 15 people who cheat or troll him so much it makes sense he's paranoid that everyone else is doing it too. He's like that kid that has a fit when people pick on him so they keep provoking him to get reactions, it's ridiculous and childish how proclan and mannerchomp and azide and all the others act around him just to get giggles about how he gets upset Have you ever wondered why SO MANY people act this way towards Protech? I've actually watched him play vs optikzero and SeleCT, lose like 5 games in a row...and then accuse them of possibly stream cheating. I mean, really? Honestly, he brings all the hate/rage on himself. | ||
Otak
United Kingdom110 Posts
On November 02 2011 05:45 ODieN wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote: It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not. Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally. Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching! ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him. He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured. Not to say it hasn't happened but I have watched Protech's stream A LOT and I have never once seen any kind of racial slur. | ||
Mythito
Canada230 Posts
On November 02 2011 08:29 Perseverance wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 08:05 Mythito wrote: Where it's true Protech blames too many people for cheating in some way, it's reasonable that he does that because there are like 15 people who cheat or troll him so much it makes sense he's paranoid that everyone else is doing it too. He's like that kid that has a fit when people pick on him so they keep provoking him to get reactions, it's ridiculous and childish how proclan and mannerchomp and azide and all the others act around him just to get giggles about how he gets upset Have you ever wondered why SO MANY people act this way towards Protech? I've actually watched him play vs optikzero and SeleCT, lose like 5 games in a row...and then accuse them of possibly stream cheating. I mean, really? Honestly, he brings all the hate/rage on himself. No, I don't wonder why "SO MANY" people act this way toward Protech, in fact, I posted why people act this way toward him. Maybe you should try reading what I posted instead of skimming it or reading the first 10 words and just assuming you know what the rest says based on your previous experiences? | ||
hitthebong
United States6 Posts
On November 01 2011 20:48 Rive wrote: LOL "I am Friends With Sorcery" That's funny coming from you, since I've never played with him in 2v2, and you clearly have...that seems more or less a false statement but its cool, i expect this from you. But GL getting featured again!! -.- Rive, I have found you a few times, on different occasions, hanging out in Vitamins stream when he and sorcery were sniping protech. I was the first one to tell protech about it, well over a month ago, and had it confirmed by others in chat. I mean, who knows, I guess you were just there to watch all those bodybuilder youtube videos, right? Anyway, I have watched Protech's stream for a while now. Sometimes he gets stream cheated. Sometimes, he says straight up "No, I just got beat that game". But mostly, he generally just accepts defeat and moves on to the next game. People exaggerate to make it seem like EVERY loss, Protech uses an excuse as to why it was a loss. That's not the case. If you say otherwise, then you obviously aren't watching the stream, meaning that you can't even begin to make an argument against that point. Lastly, even I will admit that sometimes Protech can be BM. Let's be realistic ... BM IS INHERENT IN 99.9% OF GAMERS. It is what it is. You can call Protech out on it, but just like you trolls and shit talkers on this stream, who are being BM with your posts, ........ C'mon. Lets not be hypocrites. | ||
sunman1g
United States334 Posts
I do not think someone like that should be featured | ||
hitthebong
United States6 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:22 sunman1g wrote: the only time I watched protech was insanely BM and I never watched him again. I do not think someone like that should be featured Lol, then with that argument, Destiny shouldnt be featured either. oh wait...he's..... still ..... there ..... ? | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 02 2011 08:29 Perseverance wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 08:05 Mythito wrote: Where it's true Protech blames too many people for cheating in some way, it's reasonable that he does that because there are like 15 people who cheat or troll him so much it makes sense he's paranoid that everyone else is doing it too. He's like that kid that has a fit when people pick on him so they keep provoking him to get reactions, it's ridiculous and childish how proclan and mannerchomp and azide and all the others act around him just to get giggles about how he gets upset Have you ever wondered why SO MANY people act this way towards Protech? I've actually watched him play vs optikzero and SeleCT, lose like 5 games in a row...and then accuse them of possibly stream cheating. I mean, really? Honestly, he brings all the hate/rage on himself. No, I did not. Are you out of your mind? I know karl from bw days, don't post things that aren't true. EDIT: and the only negative comment that I made in regards to those games is that TP is imbal against ZZ. | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
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Rive
United States11 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:17 hitthebong wrote: Show nested quote + On November 01 2011 20:48 Rive wrote: LOL "I am Friends With Sorcery" That's funny coming from you, since I've never played with him in 2v2, and you clearly have...that seems more or less a false statement but its cool, i expect this from you. But GL getting featured again!! -.- Rive, I have found you a few times, on different occasions, hanging out in Vitamins stream when he and sorcery were sniping protech. I was the first one to tell protech about it, well over a month ago, and had it confirmed by others in chat. I mean, who knows, I guess you were just there to watch all those bodybuilder youtube videos, right? Anyway, I have watched Protech's stream for a while now. Sometimes he gets stream cheated. Sometimes, he says straight up "No, I just got beat that game". But mostly, he generally just accepts defeat and moves on to the next game. People exaggerate to make it seem like EVERY loss, Protech uses an excuse as to why it was a loss. That's not the case. If you say otherwise, then you obviously aren't watching the stream, meaning that you can't even begin to make an argument against that point. Lastly, even I will admit that sometimes Protech can be BM. Let's be realistic ... BM IS INHERENT IN 99.9% OF GAMERS. It is what it is. You can call Protech out on it, but just like you trolls and shit talkers on this stream, who are being BM with your posts, ........ C'mon. Lets not be hypocrites. LOL,You are hilarious! You saw me on sorcerys stream huh? Well BRO the funny part about this whole thing is ...Protech 2v2 partner now plays with Vitamin...(tqgotslamt) So what does that tell you? You better go taddle on him to. You are defending the defenseless | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 02 2011 06:46 GoldRogers wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote: It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not. Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally. Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching! This guy is obviously trolling, calling someone who only knows how to 4 gate as toss, the best 2v2 player in the world is rediculous. All of his arranged teammates are GM's or former GM's which is the only reason he won the PTSL. Power/destructive, tehredbandit, has a higher score than him 90% of the games (carrying). This bitter immature person only knows how to all in and he does it very well, but that doesn't qualify him to be the "best" 2v2 player. There is a reason Team Wizards got picked up by fnatic and protech is teamless. When you try to troll, at least make it less obvious. Just to make this clear, I have no interest in joining a team, and I have said that plenty of times on my stream. Whether or not they picked up wizards for the reason that I'm just a BM player, I don't know. But I can assure you that even IF they had contacted me in regards to joining a team, I don't have any interest. | ||
hitthebong
United States6 Posts
On November 01 2011 20:48 Rive wrote: LOL,You are hilarious! You saw me on sorcerys stream huh? Well BRO the funny part about this whole thing is ...Protech 2v2 partner now plays with Vitamin...(tqgotslamt) So what does that tell you? You better go taddle on him to. You are defending the defenseless Rive, getslamt was protechs partner for how long? a few weeks? lol. I don't need to defend Protech. He's a grown man, he can take care of himself im sure. I just call it how i see it. And the way I see it, by your numerous angry posts on this thread, you're just mad. SO mad. Grow up, "BRO". "LOL" | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
Just goes to show the maturity level of Protechs stream fan boys | ||
sunman1g
United States334 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:23 hitthebong wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 09:22 sunman1g wrote: the only time I watched protech was insanely BM and I never watched him again. I do not think someone like that should be featured Lol, then with that argument, Destiny shouldnt be featured either. oh wait...he's..... still ..... there ..... ? if you watched destiny you knew that he jokes a lot. he would never say a racial slur and if he said it he would make it as a joke. protech clearly used racial slur in a serious situation and he did not mean to make a funny joke or anything. | ||
hitthebong
United States6 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:51 CHOMPMannER wrote: ur saying hes so mad SO mad and tell him to grow up? lolol Just goes to show the maturity level of Protechs stream fan boys You got it, Mannerchomp. I'm just an immature fanboy. What are you? User was warned for this post | ||
Rive
United States11 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:47 hitthebong wrote: Show nested quote + On November 01 2011 20:48 Rive wrote: LOL,You are hilarious! You saw me on sorcerys stream huh? Well BRO the funny part about this whole thing is ...Protech 2v2 partner now plays with Vitamin...(tqgotslamt) So what does that tell you? You better go taddle on him to. You are defending the defenseless Rive, getslamt was protechs partner for how long? a few weeks? lol. I don't need to defend Protech. He's a grown man, he can take care of himself im sure. I just call it how i see it. And the way I see it, by your numerous angry posts on this thread, you're just mad. SO mad. Grow up, "BRO". "LOL" hitthebong, You said "I was watching sorcerys stream" That means by implication you were as well...now...you should ban yourself for committing such a sin. And the reason Protech Banned me in the first place is because i called him out on Reporting people for Trolling him, Yet he does the same to bronze lvl 4v4 guys. | ||
Otak
United Kingdom110 Posts
getslamt was really whiny anyway i'm glad protech doesn't play with him anymore, he was so irritating on stream. It really does make me laugh when people actively spend their time posting over and over in this thread bm'ing protech. It's obvious that you all have something personal against him (either that or you have the mentality of a 13 year old high school girl) so your arguments will never be taken seriously. No-one in here who is saying anything bad has any reason why they should be taken seriously. Mannerchomp has team killed when he's got matched with protech before which is far worse in game bm than anything protech has done. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 02 2011 09:59 Rive wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 09:47 hitthebong wrote: On November 01 2011 20:48 Rive wrote: LOL,You are hilarious! You saw me on sorcerys stream huh? Well BRO the funny part about this whole thing is ...Protech 2v2 partner now plays with Vitamin...(tqgotslamt) So what does that tell you? You better go taddle on him to. You are defending the defenseless Rive, getslamt was protechs partner for how long? a few weeks? lol. I don't need to defend Protech. He's a grown man, he can take care of himself im sure. I just call it how i see it. And the way I see it, by your numerous angry posts on this thread, you're just mad. SO mad. Grow up, "BRO". "LOL" hitthebong, You said "I was watching sorcerys stream" That means by implication you were as well...now...you should ban yourself for committing such a sin. And the reason Protech Banned me in the first place is because i called him out on Reporting people for Trolling him, Yet he does the same to bronze lvl 4v4 guys. And i cut it out completely. | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
He accused me of stream cheating and hacking he deserved it Kid doesnt understand that he only has a few bad builds.. And if you survive vs Protech in the first 8 minutes, you win. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 02 2011 10:21 CHOMPMannER wrote: And people wonder why I team killed him? He accused me of stream cheating and hacking he deserved it Kid doesnt understand that he only has a few bad builds.. And if you survive vs Protech in the first 8 minutes, you win. Mannerchomp, I've proven how you stream cheat time and time again, and I've made it blatantly obvious to my audience, and most people would agree with me. And I've also said many times on my stream that, if you do stream cheat it's a risk that us streamers take ( as I cannot put a delay on my stream right now because of the multistream bug ) so I wouldn't rage about it if people were upfront about it. For example this guy who I've been recently playing against: America. He's obvious about it, and do I rage about it? No because again, it's risk that you take when you stream. On another note, I never accused you of "HACKING" not even once. The only thing that I ever accused you of was stream cheating and I have very good grounds to make that accusation. And someone with a personality like yours it's very believable that you would do something like that. EDIT: And for the record people have witnessed me lose games to players such as: Gatored / Geno mystik / illusive getslamt / trb Azide / SuperNinja Those are the teams that I frequently lose to when I play random team, and have I EVER ONCE claimed that they are stream cheating? NO. I rage about losing, sure but who doesn't? I rage about bad allies when I play RANDOM TEAM. For the people who actually watch my stream on a daily bases, whenever I'm in a Skype call with chris, whenever we lose games the first thing isn't always " Oh, okay they were stream cheating. " Sometimes it is, but that's only when it's blatantly obvious. We go over how we could have won the game, and what we could have done different, or in most cases just MOVE ON TO THE NEXT GAME. As far as the drama is concerned I've basically shut myself out from the whole " chatting in sc2. " as it brings way too much drama to not only my stream chat, not also TL.net. So that being said, the stream will without a doubt be 10x more enjoyable than it was originally. | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
And I'm telling you now I will stream cheat vs. you in the future because I'm sick of your bull shit accusations and might as well just do it to piss you off. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 02 2011 10:28 CHOMPMannER wrote: LOL protech honestly dude, I've watched your stream enough times to know what your zerg builds were.. It's not rocket science to figure out how to counter your openings. I was never stream cheating, seriously get off it. And I'm telling you now I will stream cheat vs. you in the future because I'm sick of your bull shit accusations and might as well just do it to piss you off. Yeah, like that game on monylth ridge where power proxies a starport under your base with a fusion core there, and you just happen to send an SCV scout there? (15mins into game) | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 02 2011 10:28 CHOMPMannER wrote: LOL protech honestly dude, I've watched your stream enough times to know what your zerg builds were.. It's not rocket science to figure out how to counter your openings. I was never stream cheating, seriously get off it. And I'm telling you now I will stream cheat vs. you in the future because I'm sick of your bull shit accusations and might as well just do it to piss you off. Then I have no reason to be upset with you, as long as you admit. | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
On November 02 2011 10:31 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 10:28 CHOMPMannER wrote: LOL protech honestly dude, I've watched your stream enough times to know what your zerg builds were.. It's not rocket science to figure out how to counter your openings. I was never stream cheating, seriously get off it. And I'm telling you now I will stream cheat vs. you in the future because I'm sick of your bull shit accusations and might as well just do it to piss you off. Yeah, like that game on monylth ridge where power proxies a starport under your base with a fusion core there, and you just happen to send an SCV scout there? Ok first of all let me explain something to you. I am a Terran player... Your ally was Terran I got an scv in your Terran ally's base he had a factory and a barracks with no add ons around 8 minutes.... hmmm I was makin banshees that game so i immediately came to the thought of Proxy Starport? want to know why? Because 1 rax marine and 1 factory hellion would make no sense at that stage of the game. Your proof is not proof, maybe you should learn your timings and look @ the facts in front of you LOL I suggest you watch the replay from my POV rather than just jumping the gun and not looking @ facts: http://drop.sc/9987 thanks | ||
hitthebong
United States6 Posts
On November 02 2011 10:28 CHOMPMannER wrote: LOL protech honestly dude, I've watched your stream enough times to know what your zerg builds were.. It's not rocket science to figure out how to counter your openings. I was never stream cheating, seriously get off it. And I'm telling you now I will stream cheat vs. you in the future because I'm sick of your bull shit accusations and might as well just do it to piss you off. Mannerchomp, this quote from the kid who was calling me out on my "maturity level"? hahahha, you're so pathetic. :D | ||
hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
On November 02 2011 10:25 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 10:21 CHOMPMannER wrote: And people wonder why I team killed him? He accused me of stream cheating and hacking he deserved it Kid doesnt understand that he only has a few bad builds.. And if you survive vs Protech in the first 8 minutes, you win. And for the record people have witnessed me lose games to players such as: Gatored / Geno mystik / illusive getslamt / trb Azide / SuperNinja Those are the teams that I frequently lose to when I play random team, and have I EVER ONCE claimed that they are stream cheating? NO. I rage about losing, sure but who doesn't? I rage about bad allies when I play RANDOM TEAM. Why, that is the most humble thing I've ever heard you say. Now practice this one. I lost that game for my team because my strategy didn't do enough damage. Now that would be enjoyable. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 02 2011 10:35 hipsterHobbit wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 10:25 ProTech wrote: On November 02 2011 10:21 CHOMPMannER wrote: And people wonder why I team killed him? He accused me of stream cheating and hacking he deserved it Kid doesnt understand that he only has a few bad builds.. And if you survive vs Protech in the first 8 minutes, you win. And for the record people have witnessed me lose games to players such as: Gatored / Geno mystik / illusive getslamt / trb Azide / SuperNinja Those are the teams that I frequently lose to when I play random team, and have I EVER ONCE claimed that they are stream cheating? NO. I rage about losing, sure but who doesn't? I rage about bad allies when I play RANDOM TEAM. Why, that is the most humble thing I've ever heard you say. Now practice this one. I lost that game for my team because my strategy didn't do enough damage. Now that would be enjoyable. Again, if you watch my stream on a daily basis you would know that if the game was my fault, then I take the blame. | ||
iamperfection
United States9507 Posts
You guys realize that its protechs stream and therefore can talk about whatever the hell he want on his stream and do what he wants in it. If you dont like it dont watch. To all those saying protech should be defatured because he say a few remarks or racist stuff is hurting the 2v2 "esports" come on hes one guy. I doubt anyone would stop watching 2v2 torunament or refuse to watch a stream just because of something protech said (if anything it would probally attract viewers) | ||
Fleebenworth
463 Posts
On November 02 2011 10:56 Darkdeath3 wrote: To all those saying protech should be defatured because he say a few remarks or racist stuff is hurting the 2v2 "esports" come on hes one guy. I doubt anyone would stop watching 2v2 torunament or refuse to watch a stream just because of something protech said (if anything it would probally attract viewers) Strawman? People are just rightfully pointing out that protech makes a lot of accusations about people maphacking,etc. without much evidence than OMG HOW COULD YOU KNOW WHAT I AM DOING EVEN THOUGH I ONLY HAVE A FEW BUILDS THAT I RECYCLE AD NAUSEUM | ||
iamperfection
United States9507 Posts
On November 02 2011 11:03 Fleebenworth wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 10:56 Darkdeath3 wrote: To all those saying protech should be defatured because he say a few remarks or racist stuff is hurting the 2v2 "esports" come on hes one guy. I doubt anyone would stop watching 2v2 torunament or refuse to watch a stream just because of something protech said (if anything it would probally attract viewers) Strawman? People are just rightfully pointing out that protech makes a lot of accusations about people maphacking,etc. without much evidence than OMG HOW COULD YOU KNOW WHAT I AM DOING EVEN THOUGH I ONLY HAVE A FEW BUILDS THAT I RECYCLE AD NAUSEUM My point is why do you care | ||
Fleebenworth
463 Posts
On November 02 2011 11:07 Darkdeath3 wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 11:03 Fleebenworth wrote: On November 02 2011 10:56 Darkdeath3 wrote: To all those saying protech should be defatured because he say a few remarks or racist stuff is hurting the 2v2 "esports" come on hes one guy. I doubt anyone would stop watching 2v2 torunament or refuse to watch a stream just because of something protech said (if anything it would probally attract viewers) Strawman? People are just rightfully pointing out that protech makes a lot of accusations about people maphacking,etc. without much evidence than OMG HOW COULD YOU KNOW WHAT I AM DOING EVEN THOUGH I ONLY HAVE A FEW BUILDS THAT I RECYCLE AD NAUSEUM My point is why do you care Why care about anything? | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 02 2011 11:03 Fleebenworth wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 10:56 Darkdeath3 wrote: To all those saying protech should be defatured because he say a few remarks or racist stuff is hurting the 2v2 "esports" come on hes one guy. I doubt anyone would stop watching 2v2 torunament or refuse to watch a stream just because of something protech said (if anything it would probally attract viewers) Strawman? People are just rightfully pointing out that protech makes a lot of accusations about people maphacking,etc. without much evidence than OMG HOW COULD YOU KNOW WHAT I AM DOING EVEN THOUGH I ONLY HAVE A FEW BUILDS THAT I RECYCLE AD NAUSEUM I would venture to say that, in most cases, people come on the stream for about say.... 15 seconds, and hear me ranting about it. Whenever I actually feel like i've been stream cheated I go into the replay and give a good explanation. And as of late, BECAUSE IM PLAYING RANDOM, it's been more and more fishy in a lot of cases. And in most cases people don't even bother to scout my base and put together correct unit comps. Again, I don't go around falsely accusing people. There have been MANY cases where I open a replay and in the first 2 mins I'll be like " Ok, this shows nothing, I was wrong. " | ||
mangoloid
100 Posts
I hope they re-feature protech's stream eventually. He's kind of a jerk, like most people say, (but, as he's tried to prove in this thread drama, he is not a total bitch like the true BM queens of the ladder) but there are not many other high-level 2v2 players who stream as consistently as he does. I like 2v2 a lot, and protech's style is aggressive/fun, so I find myself watching it quite often. Since protech will probably read this: I mean absolutely no disrespect when I say this, but if you were to begin acting more mature/professional about your playing, you could easily gain more respect in this community and find yourself making a better living off of SC2. As a high-level 2v2 player, you are in a position to contribute a lot more to the community aside from your stream. Competitive 2v2s have been trying to gain a foothold of late, and though there have been moderate successes, it has yet to get the boost it really needs. I think there's certainly an audience. If you were to start providing analysis, replays, strategies, and/or were to help organize 2v2 tournys, you would be helping both the community and yourself. I don't know if it's really in your personality to actually put in this work and interact with people, but if you're are serious about your future playing SC, it's something to consider. | ||
insomdapowahouz
Canada58 Posts
It's a 2v2 stream; It doesn't matter if you're the best 2v2 player in the world (which you claim to be), It's still not interesting. The games are boring, and usually revolve around 2-3 different possible 1 base all ins each player can be doing. The fact you rage/accuse people of hacking AT ALL takes away from this further. I 100% agree that you are very valid in your accusations, and you get cheated a lot seeing as 2v2 is a smaller community. (I remember sorcery from DotA, and I can vouch for what a fucking cunt that kid is) However, I don't care enough to hear about it. Turning on the stream to hear that is off-putting, to put it mildly. there's a place for you, but it's not on the front page of TL regardless, it's a shitty fucking pill to swallow, and I do feel bad for you, just not enough to sugar coat my post. | ||
JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
Whenever I actually feel like i've been stream cheated I go into the replay and give a good explanation. And as of late, BECAUSE IM PLAYING RANDOM, it's been more and more fishy in a lot of cases. And in most cases people don't even bother to scout my base and put together correct unit comps. Again, I don't go around falsely accusing people. There have been MANY cases where I open a replay and in the first 2 mins I'll be like " Ok, this shows nothing, I was wrong. " Yeah, it might seem fishy, but you also have to understand that even if you're playing random, its not THAT hard to blindly counter what you're doing. Most people are going to expect some sort of cheese or early rush, and if its a "macro" game by your standards, perhaps they just had a superior composition to you. Also, for everyone saying Protech is the best 2v2 player in the world, he's most definitely not He's at times the highest rated player in the 2v2 random and arranged team scales, which is an accumulation of many points, not skill. Yes, he has the bare basic mechanics down to carry out certain early game build orders (4gate, 10p, etc) and micro units to some extent, but if you want to compare SC2 mechanics as a while, he is lacking. Just look at the ladder games he played vs SeleCT//Optikzero and how outclassed he (along with tehredbandit I think) was. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 02 2011 11:59 JerKy wrote: Show nested quote + Whenever I actually feel like i've been stream cheated I go into the replay and give a good explanation. And as of late, BECAUSE IM PLAYING RANDOM, it's been more and more fishy in a lot of cases. And in most cases people don't even bother to scout my base and put together correct unit comps. Again, I don't go around falsely accusing people. There have been MANY cases where I open a replay and in the first 2 mins I'll be like " Ok, this shows nothing, I was wrong. " Yeah, it might seem fishy, but you also have to understand that even if you're playing random, its not THAT hard to blindly counter what you're doing. Most people are going to expect some sort of cheese or early rush, and if its a "macro" game by your standards, perhaps they just had a superior composition to you. Also, for everyone saying Protech is the best 2v2 player in the world, he's most definitely not He's at times the highest rated player in the 2v2 random and arranged team scales, which is an accumulation of many points, not skill. Yes, he has the bare basic mechanics down to carry out certain early game build orders (4gate, 10p, etc) and micro units to some extent, but if you want to compare SC2 mechanics as a while, he is lacking. Just look at the ladder games he played vs SeleCT//Optikzero and how outclassed he (along with tehredbandit I think) was. As a ZZ team, yes. The games that I've played against them with power. we are currently up. 2v2 may not be as interesting as 1v1, but there is still a large crowd that is attracted to it. | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12396 Posts
from his chat: protech says, PLEASE REMOVE AD BLOCK. I WILL BE MAKING THIS STREAM UN WATCHABLE TO AD BLOCK USERS. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 02 2011 14:01 dAPhREAk wrote: interesting note. protech complains about people not listening to his commercials (and says in his stream that he is going to force people to watch commercials), but has ad blocker put on for tl.net. kind of hypocritical? from his chat: protech says, PLEASE REMOVE AD BLOCK. I WILL BE MAKING THIS STREAM UN WATCHABLE TO AD BLOCK USERS. As i've said many tiems on my stream, I use it so that i don't get minimized during games. I never ad block anything, and you can clearly see the advertisments on TL.NET on my stream. | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
These are the kind of people that hate protech, rofl | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
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FILM
United States663 Posts
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On November 02 2011 04:08 Makica wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 03:15 VashTS wrote: @Rive: Why you so BM towards ProTech now? Thought you guys were cool. You that mad about losing mod powers in a chat room? @Gold: Did you actually make an account just to BM somebody in their own streaming topic? Lmfao. How old are you exactly? @Odien: Wow, really? That's pretty BM of you, son. @Azide: He's actually not Diamond 1v1, but nice try. Oh wait, no it wasn't. Edit: @Makica: You sure are exaggerating a fair bit. He doesn't accuse EVERYBODY of stream cheating. It's the small group of people (like Mannerchomp) that constantly match up with him and do their usual BM/garbage, and "just happen" to do the exact opener that's strong (or the counter) vs the build that he does, regardless of which opener he happens to do without scouting. If he actually DID accuse everybody, he wouldn't have a fanbase at all. Also, IdrA calls like everybody bad. IdrA complains about abusive strategies. What's your point about that? I didn't say he accuses everyone of stream cheating. I said he disparages everyone he loses to in different ways. On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote: Any team he loses to he accuses of stream cheating, doing some unfair strategy, etc and goes on a tirade about how bad they are. That's you saying you didn't say x, and then you saying x just previously. =/ On November 02 2011 04:07 Azide wrote: "idra is a code s player" --> he plays at the Code S level No... "IdrA is a Code S player" means he's in Code S. "IdrA plays at Code S level" would mean what you said. On November 02 2011 05:45 ODieN wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote: It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not. Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally. Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching! ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him. He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured. I bitch him out and call him out on stuff all the time, and I'm not banned. And things that happen in a stream are things that TL is not responsible for. That's why they can't do anything about stream sniping/cheating. And lol @ "abusing commercial power." Seriously? On November 02 2011 05:53 Rive wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 03:15 VashTS wrote: @Rive: Why you so BM towards ProTech now? Thought you guys were cool. You that mad about losing mod powers in a chat room? @Gold: Did you actually make an account just to BM somebody in their own streaming topic? Lmfao. How old are you exactly? @Odien: Wow, really? That's pretty BM of you, son. @Azide: He's actually not Diamond 1v1, but nice try. Oh wait, no it wasn't. Edit: @Makica: You sure are exaggerating a fair bit. He doesn't accuse EVERYBODY of stream cheating. It's the small group of people (like Mannerchomp) that constantly match up with him and do their usual BM/garbage, and "just happen" to do the exact opener that's strong (or the counter) vs the build that he does, regardless of which opener he happens to do without scouting. If he actually DID accuse everybody, he wouldn't have a fanbase at all. Also, IdrA calls like everybody bad. IdrA complains about abusive strategies. What's your point about that? No VashTS i am not upset of losing my "MOD" I am annoyed with his constant complaining. He Decides to Report Players for Trolling him, when he did the same exact thing to lower level players! Hypocritical? I think So. The Fact that every good player in the 2v2 scene thinks hes a total douche bag must mean something. My apologies for the false assumption, then. Not sure about the rest, but I doubt that. On November 02 2011 05:58 stormchaser wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 05:45 ODieN wrote: On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote: It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not. Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally. Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching! ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him. He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured. I think this man said it best. Not to mention, I don't remember him ever getting over 100 viewers, why feature a stream that isn't generally popular? This a joke post? On November 02 2011 06:46 GoldRogers wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote: It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not. Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally. Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching! This guy is obviously trolling, calling someone who only knows how to 4 gate as toss, the best 2v2 player in the world is rediculous. All of his arranged teammates are GM's or former GM's which is the only reason he won the PTSL. Power/destructive, tehredbandit, has a higher score than him 90% of the games (carrying). This bitter immature person only knows how to all in and he does it very well, but that doesn't qualify him to be the "best" 2v2 player. There is a reason Team Wizards got picked up by fnatic and protech is teamless. When you try to troll, at least make it less obvious. Your argument is "rediculous" son. On November 02 2011 09:51 CHOMPMannER wrote: ur saying hes so mad SO mad and tell him to grow up? lolol Just goes to show the maturity level of Protechs stream fan boys You are your friends are pretty good at making generalizations. On November 02 2011 09:51 sunman1g wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 09:23 hitthebong wrote: On November 02 2011 09:22 sunman1g wrote: the only time I watched protech was insanely BM and I never watched him again. I do not think someone like that should be featured Lol, then with that argument, Destiny shouldnt be featured either. oh wait...he's..... still ..... there ..... ? if you watched destiny you knew that he jokes a lot. he would never say a racial slur and if he said it he would make it as a joke. protech clearly used racial slur in a serious situation and he did not mean to make a funny joke or anything. the only time I watched destiny was insanely BM and I never watched him again. I do not think someone like that should be featured if you watched protech you knew that he jokes a lot. he would never say a racial slur and if he said it he would make it as a joke. destiny clearly used racial slur in a serious situation and he did not mean to make a funny joke or anything. @Rive: Sorry about my assumption about the mod thing, btw. | ||
oDieN[Siege]
United States2897 Posts
On November 02 2011 15:26 VashTS wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 02 2011 04:08 Makica wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 03:15 VashTS wrote: @Rive: Why you so BM towards ProTech now? Thought you guys were cool. You that mad about losing mod powers in a chat room? @Gold: Did you actually make an account just to BM somebody in their own streaming topic? Lmfao. How old are you exactly? @Odien: Wow, really? That's pretty BM of you, son. @Azide: He's actually not Diamond 1v1, but nice try. Oh wait, no it wasn't. Edit: @Makica: You sure are exaggerating a fair bit. He doesn't accuse EVERYBODY of stream cheating. It's the small group of people (like Mannerchomp) that constantly match up with him and do their usual BM/garbage, and "just happen" to do the exact opener that's strong (or the counter) vs the build that he does, regardless of which opener he happens to do without scouting. If he actually DID accuse everybody, he wouldn't have a fanbase at all. Also, IdrA calls like everybody bad. IdrA complains about abusive strategies. What's your point about that? I didn't say he accuses everyone of stream cheating. I said he disparages everyone he loses to in different ways. On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote: Any team he loses to he accuses of stream cheating, doing some unfair strategy, etc and goes on a tirade about how bad they are. That's you saying you didn't say x, and then you saying x just previously. =/ On November 02 2011 04:07 Azide wrote: "idra is a code s player" --> he plays at the Code S level No... "IdrA is a Code S player" means he's in Code S. "IdrA plays at Code S level" would mean what you said. On November 02 2011 05:45 ODieN wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote: It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not. Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally. Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching! ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him. He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured. I bitch him out and call him out on stuff all the time, and I'm not banned. And things that happen in a stream are things that TL is not responsible for. That's why they can't do anything about stream sniping/cheating. And lol @ "abusing commercial power." Seriously? On November 02 2011 05:53 Rive wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 03:15 VashTS wrote: @Rive: Why you so BM towards ProTech now? Thought you guys were cool. You that mad about losing mod powers in a chat room? @Gold: Did you actually make an account just to BM somebody in their own streaming topic? Lmfao. How old are you exactly? @Odien: Wow, really? That's pretty BM of you, son. @Azide: He's actually not Diamond 1v1, but nice try. Oh wait, no it wasn't. Edit: @Makica: You sure are exaggerating a fair bit. He doesn't accuse EVERYBODY of stream cheating. It's the small group of people (like Mannerchomp) that constantly match up with him and do their usual BM/garbage, and "just happen" to do the exact opener that's strong (or the counter) vs the build that he does, regardless of which opener he happens to do without scouting. If he actually DID accuse everybody, he wouldn't have a fanbase at all. Also, IdrA calls like everybody bad. IdrA complains about abusive strategies. What's your point about that? No VashTS i am not upset of losing my "MOD" I am annoyed with his constant complaining. He Decides to Report Players for Trolling him, when he did the same exact thing to lower level players! Hypocritical? I think So. The Fact that every good player in the 2v2 scene thinks hes a total douche bag must mean something. My apologies for the false assumption, then. Not sure about the rest, but I doubt that. On November 02 2011 05:58 stormchaser wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 05:45 ODieN wrote: On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote: It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not. Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally. Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching! ProTech making racial slurs is not great for the TL.net community and/or sponsors who come to this website and view "featured streams" as it just makes TL.net look bad as an image due to supporting ProTech by featuring him. He also abuses his commercial power by running 3-5 at a time back to back, also treys his viewers like shit if they were to say one thing ProTech doesn't agree with, constructive criticism, bm or not. he straight up bans them, no time outs or anything. He deserved to be de-featured. I think this man said it best. Not to mention, I don't remember him ever getting over 100 viewers, why feature a stream that isn't generally popular? This a joke post? On November 02 2011 06:46 GoldRogers wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 05:35 CursedFeanor wrote: It's really retarded that ProTech was defeatured... It's a slap in the face of everyone who enjoys 2v2. I thought TL was more open-minded, but apparently not. Defeaturing the (arguably) best 2v2 player in the world is stupid, no matter what you think about him personally. Anyway I hope you keep streaming ProTech and we'll keep watching! This guy is obviously trolling, calling someone who only knows how to 4 gate as toss, the best 2v2 player in the world is rediculous. All of his arranged teammates are GM's or former GM's which is the only reason he won the PTSL. Power/destructive, tehredbandit, has a higher score than him 90% of the games (carrying). This bitter immature person only knows how to all in and he does it very well, but that doesn't qualify him to be the "best" 2v2 player. There is a reason Team Wizards got picked up by fnatic and protech is teamless. When you try to troll, at least make it less obvious. Your argument is "rediculous" son. On November 02 2011 09:51 CHOMPMannER wrote: ur saying hes so mad SO mad and tell him to grow up? lolol Just goes to show the maturity level of Protechs stream fan boys You are your friends are pretty good at making generalizations. On November 02 2011 09:51 sunman1g wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 09:23 hitthebong wrote: On November 02 2011 09:22 sunman1g wrote: the only time I watched protech was insanely BM and I never watched him again. I do not think someone like that should be featured Lol, then with that argument, Destiny shouldnt be featured either. oh wait...he's..... still ..... there ..... ? if you watched destiny you knew that he jokes a lot. he would never say a racial slur and if he said it he would make it as a joke. protech clearly used racial slur in a serious situation and he did not mean to make a funny joke or anything. the only time I watched destiny was insanely BM and I never watched him again. I do not think someone like that should be featured if you watched protech you knew that he jokes a lot. he would never say a racial slur and if he said it he would make it as a joke. destiny clearly used racial slur in a serious situation and he did not mean to make a funny joke or anything. @Rive: Sorry about my assumption about the mod thing, btw. Yes, really. | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
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CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
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Azide
Canada566 Posts
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On November 02 2011 16:13 CHOMPMannER wrote: LOL Teivo notice how only today Protech started saying GL HF and GG in his games? And how now hes expklaining why he loses rather than saying " BAD ALLY FUCK " but i wouldnt expect you to notice that are you retarded? I've seen him say gl hf / gg in practically all his tournament games and every 1v1 game he's played. He says BAD ALLY FUCK because its the truth /rolleyes. Apparently though thats rude and no one respects anyone that tells it as it is. On the internet we all drink tea, eat caviar and wear monocles don't we. SC2 is high sociETY. Rofl so dumb. Anyways from what I've seen that majority of top level 2v2'rs are literally retarded and way more bad manner than protech. They just get away with it because no one knows who they are. You're also not only mad at protech, you're obsessed with him as far as I am concerned. Notice how you acted all holier than thou with your teamkilling accusations and then came back and admitted to teamkilling. Notice the whole facebook group you and that ugly asian kid who wears a dress made to BM protech? Dood, y u so obsessed? Rofl you spew so much bullshit that anyone with any sense wouldn't have to have watched your games to know that you're 100% stream cheater PS stealing empty beer kegs to make ends meet like you do is much much more degrading than working at mcdonalds PS Azide, go support hacker sorcery + vitamin team more you gr8 example of a 2v2'r http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252666¤tpage=18#357 | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On November 02 2011 16:13 CHOMPMannER wrote: LOL Teivo notice how only today Protech started saying GL HF and GG in his games? And how now hes expklaining why he loses rather than saying " BAD ALLY FUCK " but i wouldnt expect you to notice that Almost as serious as "FUCK DOG ON FIRE" or "TAKING GRANDMA TO THE ICE CREAM STORE" mirite? | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
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askTeivospy
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CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
funny at your attempt to try and attack my personal life though i'll remember that next time there is a local event | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On November 02 2011 18:20 CHOMPMannER wrote: I have no clue what you are talking about lmao funny at your attempt to try and attack my personal life though i'll remember that next time there is a local event :D e z | ||
NrT.RuSH
Germany214 Posts
To Protech: Be more professional and treat your fans right. Its your job so take it serious. You are a good player and you need to represent yourself as a top player. Also you should be looking to join a team as its more stability for you and even more income possiblity. SC2 wont last forever so make the best out of it. I practice hard to get better and you know with the military time is rough. Anyway GL man. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 02 2011 11:44 insomdapowahouz wrote: Here's my honest opinion: It's a 2v2 stream; It doesn't matter if you're the best 2v2 player in the world (which you claim to be), It's still not interesting. The games are boring, and usually revolve around 2-3 different possible 1 base all ins each player can be doing. The fact you rage/accuse people of hacking AT ALL takes away from this further. I 100% agree that you are very valid in your accusations, and you get cheated a lot seeing as 2v2 is a smaller community. (I remember sorcery from DotA, and I can vouch for what a fucking cunt that kid is) However, I don't care enough to hear about it. Turning on the stream to hear that is off-putting, to put it mildly. there's a place for you, but it's not on the front page of TL regardless, it's a shitty fucking pill to swallow, and I do feel bad for you, just not enough to sugar coat my post. First of all I never claimed once that I'm the best 2v2 player in the world. The only thing that I've ever said that's anywhere near that statement is on my stream title which is: " #1 >>RANKED<< 2v2 RANDOM TEAM player globally. And that's not a lie, you can check sc2ranks.com as far as that is concerned. 2v2 doesn't revolve around 1 base all ins, and if you watched the stream on a consistent basis you would know that probably 60% of the high level 2v2 master games all revolve around macro as 1 base play does not generally work on skilled players. If the games are boring, then that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. You may not care enough to hear about it, but alot of my viewers want to hear about my thought process in those kinds of situation, in fact I would say 80% of them enjoy it, rage and all. Sure, there's a place for me on TL.net, and im going to do everything I can to get that back, for my own sake, and for the 2v2 scene's sake. | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
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hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
On November 02 2011 21:24 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 11:44 insomdapowahouz wrote: Here's my honest opinion: It's a 2v2 stream; It doesn't matter if you're the best 2v2 player in the world (which you claim to be), It's still not interesting. The games are boring, and usually revolve around 2-3 different possible 1 base all ins each player can be doing. The fact you rage/accuse people of hacking AT ALL takes away from this further. I 100% agree that you are very valid in your accusations, and you get cheated a lot seeing as 2v2 is a smaller community. (I remember sorcery from DotA, and I can vouch for what a fucking cunt that kid is) However, I don't care enough to hear about it. Turning on the stream to hear that is off-putting, to put it mildly. there's a place for you, but it's not on the front page of TL regardless, it's a shitty fucking pill to swallow, and I do feel bad for you, just not enough to sugar coat my post. and for the 2v2 scene's sake. LOL HAHAH WTF? like you give a rat's ass about the 2v2 scene while you're constantly trashing all but 5 players in the scene on your stream I've tried to remain civil thus far, alas. Remember when you lost to 1 base immortal void ray(you wouldn't have lost of course if the protoss didn't play like a "retard")? Did you ever stop to think maybe you got de-featured because you are just a horrible player? The blaming your allies and parading yourself as some gosu is just a punch-line to the play you exhibit where you NEVER scout and try to use builds like: 14 command center 14 barracks 14 barracks 14 barracks 14 orbital 14 orbital Seriously, scouting is the most important thing in this game. and you simply don't do it. I'd have you de-featured for that reason alone. "the 2v2 scene's sake" would be a lot better off with your exposure kept to a minimum. edit: and I see that it will be. Thank you TL. My work here is done. | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On November 03 2011 01:25 hipsterHobbit wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 21:24 ProTech wrote: On November 02 2011 11:44 insomdapowahouz wrote: Here's my honest opinion: It's a 2v2 stream; It doesn't matter if you're the best 2v2 player in the world (which you claim to be), It's still not interesting. The games are boring, and usually revolve around 2-3 different possible 1 base all ins each player can be doing. The fact you rage/accuse people of hacking AT ALL takes away from this further. I 100% agree that you are very valid in your accusations, and you get cheated a lot seeing as 2v2 is a smaller community. (I remember sorcery from DotA, and I can vouch for what a fucking cunt that kid is) However, I don't care enough to hear about it. Turning on the stream to hear that is off-putting, to put it mildly. there's a place for you, but it's not on the front page of TL regardless, it's a shitty fucking pill to swallow, and I do feel bad for you, just not enough to sugar coat my post. and for the 2v2 scene's sake. LOL HAHAH WTF? like you give a rat's ass about the 2v2 scene while you're constantly trashing all but 5 players in the scene on your stream I've tried to remain civil thus far, alas. Remember when you lost to 1 base immortal void ray(you wouldn't have lost of course if the protoss didn't play like a "retard")? Did you ever stop to think maybe you got de-featured because you are just a horrible player? The blaming your allies and parading yourself as some gosu is just a punch-line to the play you exhibit where you NEVER scout and try to use builds like: 14 command center 14 barracks 14 barracks 14 barracks 14 orbital 14 orbital Seriously, scouting is the most important thing in this game. and you simply don't do it. I'd have you de-featured for that reason alone. "the 2v2 scene's sake" would be a lot better off with your exposure kept to a minimum. edit: and I see that it will be. Thank you TL. My work here is done. Proof? And what do you guys think about this? (even the trolls since you'll post anyway): On November 02 2011 15:23 VashTS wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 15:17 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Regarding ProTechs stream: The numbers ProTech pulls are not sufficient enough for us to justify a featured stream. When it comes to making exceptions for streamers with low numbers we look at contribution, notoriety and results which are all lacking from ProTech. Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints. All those complaints come from like 4 people who repeatedly post the same thing in 2-3 different topics. Hell, they even go as far as to nonstop trash his User Stream thread constantly just for the sake of trashing/trolling, which puts off a lot of people. (would love to see it modded, tbh) As far as results, there's been 2 major 2v2 Tournaments, of which he has won half/one of them, so I'd say that's fairly significant. There's the z33k weekly, but that's a monetary issue afaik. 2v2 doesn't get near the amount of exposure of 1v1, so pulling 300+ people almost all day every day is pretty high, which is about as much as the z33k weekly gets. | ||
tehredbanditt
103 Posts
My opinion aside, this was a blow to the 2v2 scene. His stream posted more viewers then the weekly 2v2 tourney for christ sakes (which is very well run and has a couple of great casters and decent games most of the time). | ||
dAPhREAk
Nauru12396 Posts
On November 03 2011 02:24 VashTS wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 01:25 hipsterHobbit wrote: On November 02 2011 21:24 ProTech wrote: On November 02 2011 11:44 insomdapowahouz wrote: Here's my honest opinion: It's a 2v2 stream; It doesn't matter if you're the best 2v2 player in the world (which you claim to be), It's still not interesting. The games are boring, and usually revolve around 2-3 different possible 1 base all ins each player can be doing. The fact you rage/accuse people of hacking AT ALL takes away from this further. I 100% agree that you are very valid in your accusations, and you get cheated a lot seeing as 2v2 is a smaller community. (I remember sorcery from DotA, and I can vouch for what a fucking cunt that kid is) However, I don't care enough to hear about it. Turning on the stream to hear that is off-putting, to put it mildly. there's a place for you, but it's not on the front page of TL regardless, it's a shitty fucking pill to swallow, and I do feel bad for you, just not enough to sugar coat my post. and for the 2v2 scene's sake. LOL HAHAH WTF? like you give a rat's ass about the 2v2 scene while you're constantly trashing all but 5 players in the scene on your stream I've tried to remain civil thus far, alas. Remember when you lost to 1 base immortal void ray(you wouldn't have lost of course if the protoss didn't play like a "retard")? Did you ever stop to think maybe you got de-featured because you are just a horrible player? The blaming your allies and parading yourself as some gosu is just a punch-line to the play you exhibit where you NEVER scout and try to use builds like: 14 command center 14 barracks 14 barracks 14 barracks 14 orbital 14 orbital Seriously, scouting is the most important thing in this game. and you simply don't do it. I'd have you de-featured for that reason alone. "the 2v2 scene's sake" would be a lot better off with your exposure kept to a minimum. edit: and I see that it will be. Thank you TL. My work here is done. Proof? And what do you guys think about this? (even the trolls since you'll post anyway): Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 15:23 VashTS wrote: On November 02 2011 15:17 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Regarding ProTechs stream: The numbers ProTech pulls are not sufficient enough for us to justify a featured stream. When it comes to making exceptions for streamers with low numbers we look at contribution, notoriety and results which are all lacking from ProTech. Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints. All those complaints come from like 4 people who repeatedly post the same thing in 2-3 different topics. Hell, they even go as far as to nonstop trash his User Stream thread constantly just for the sake of trashing/trolling, which puts off a lot of people. (would love to see it modded, tbh) As far as results, there's been 2 major 2v2 Tournaments, of which he has won half/one of them, so I'd say that's fairly significant. There's the z33k weekly, but that's a monetary issue afaik. 2v2 doesn't get near the amount of exposure of 1v1, so pulling 300+ people almost all day every day is pretty high, which is about as much as the z33k weekly gets. I think you have to consider the fact that people may complain about protech in private as well (i.e., pms). there are some very vocal "trolls" as you call them in this thread, but that doesn't mean many others havent complained in private. i recall a state of the game where protech was mentioned as well, and not in a complimenting manner. on one of the other threads, protech apparently incurred the wrath of a former mod of tl.net (insane). i am sure that does not bode well for his case considering insane probably has the private ear of most of the mods who make decisions as to who to feature and not to feature. honestly, its a shame that there are no 2v2 streams to watch. i watched a bit of protech yesterday and he seems to have drastically improved the way he treated people (opponents, his allies and stream watchers). if he keeps it up, i would have no objection to him being featured--although i recognize his recently found manner is probably a ploy to get re-featured. he was an asshole when i first met him online, but if he ceases being an asshole (as I saw a bit of yesterday) then maybe he deserves a features spot. karma is a bitch though. he pissed off a lot of people and now they are going after him (the so called trolls). | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
On November 03 2011 02:55 tehredbanditt wrote: Protech was featured for a reason and defeatured for a reason. I hope teamliquid told him why so that he can work on it and get the featured spot back again. As for the haters in here, the little ammount of exposure that you do get in this game, that you spend SO much time playing, is courtesy of protech. When was the last time you kids did anything of note on this game besides getting on protech nerves every once in a while? Ever get featured stream on tl.net? Ever win a tourney with sponsored, pro players and a purse of over 500 dollars? Ever have a stream that hit over 900 viewers because they just wanted to watch you play? You've gotten more well known through his rantings then you ever would have otherwise. My opinion aside, this was a blow to the 2v2 scene. His stream posted more viewers then the weekly 2v2 tourney for christ sakes (which is very well run and has a couple of great casters and decent games most of the time). Won more tournaments than you would ever believe | ||
Mythito
Canada230 Posts
On November 03 2011 03:23 CHOMPMannER wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 02:55 tehredbanditt wrote: Protech was featured for a reason and defeatured for a reason. I hope teamliquid told him why so that he can work on it and get the featured spot back again. As for the haters in here, the little ammount of exposure that you do get in this game, that you spend SO much time playing, is courtesy of protech. When was the last time you kids did anything of note on this game besides getting on protech nerves every once in a while? Ever get featured stream on tl.net? Ever win a tourney with sponsored, pro players and a purse of over 500 dollars? Ever have a stream that hit over 900 viewers because they just wanted to watch you play? You've gotten more well known through his rantings then you ever would have otherwise. My opinion aside, this was a blow to the 2v2 scene. His stream posted more viewers then the weekly 2v2 tourney for christ sakes (which is very well run and has a couple of great casters and decent games most of the time). Won more tournaments than you would ever believe ..... one? because one is more than i would ever believe for you also, congrats on being in a broken grandmaster league; http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=281608 | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
You'd really like to see the tournaments I've won... Basically I competed in WCG Canada twice and won my regional qualifier and I flew to Toronto for the grand finals. I've won numerous local events over the years. Basically all the tournaments I won gave me the exposure to get personally e-mailed by a video game developer asking me to balance RTS games... which I did for 4 years. how about you? I could open my resume up and list more than 10 easily, but that requires work and most of you are all too naive to take me serious... After all if you watch Protech's stream so im not even going to take any of you serious. | ||
Intolerable
Canada1 Post
As for his attitude. I consider ProTech a synthesis of Idra and Destiny. He demonstrates poor manners, rages, and calls people out. I do not understand how one can be so heavily offended by his behavior while poster boys like Idra call out top gamers as shit. Destiny has been banned from TL for spamming and has a sailors mouth. ProTech lives for Sc2. He gets mad and calls people out because he likes winning above all else. He isn't hated in the community as someone people suggest, but rather I see at least one person a day be in awe that they were paired with him. ProTech is a major contributor to a lackluster (but growing) 2v2 scene, and he consistently does well while obeying the morals of the game (no stream cheating or hacking). ProTech refuses to play against or with Hackers and he is very vocal about it. He polices suspicious games, and rightly so. I watched ProTech yesterday after being removed from the featured list and saw a player that was obviously shook. His attitude changed and he was definitely pre-occupied as he play seemed weaker than his regular dominating games. I hope this doesn't change who he is and how he acts. Hopefully there are other 2v2 tournaments that open up that show he is among the best in the world. If not, I hope he continues to stream, not like yesterday, but as a gritty emotional player who loves to win. | ||
GoldRogers
19 Posts
On November 03 2011 02:55 tehredbanditt wrote: Protech was featured for a reason and defeatured for a reason. I hope teamliquid told him why so that he can work on it and get the featured spot back again. As for the haters in here, the little ammount of exposure that you do get in this game, that you spend SO much time playing, is courtesy of protech. When was the last time you kids did anything of note on this game besides getting on protech nerves every once in a while? Ever get featured stream on tl.net? Ever win a tourney with sponsored, pro players and a purse of over 500 dollars? Ever have a stream that hit over 900 viewers because they just wanted to watch you play? You've gotten more well known through his rantings then you ever would have otherwise. My opinion aside, this was a blow to the 2v2 scene. His stream posted more viewers then the weekly 2v2 tourney for christ sakes (which is very well run and has a couple of great casters and decent games most of the time). He was obviously carried by his grandmaster partner (destructive). Destructive did many crucial games that on the games (Ie reactor blocks). Protech is a low level masters league player who only knows how to all in. This is common knowledge. He claims that 60% of his games goto "macro - IE 2 base LOL" but thats only after his all in fails. Expanding at 11 minutes does not condone macro. I do agree that we need more 2v2 players to stream but protech is a horrible representation and gives a terrible representation of what a "high ranked 2v2 player" is (all in every game, accuse enemies of hacking/stream cheating, constant bm to anyone that beats him). This was clearly evident earlier in this thread even before he got defeatured. Many people complained of being banned after beating him for no reason other than his little hissy fits. Protech is a terrible representation of the 2v2 community, he is racist, paranoid of everyone stream cheating, can only cheese, offensive to any 2v2 random partner that he plays with and loses and is extremely ill mannered and immature. There is a need for a high level 2v2 stream, but protech is the absolute worst candidate. | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On November 03 2011 03:53 CHOMPMannER wrote: lI could open my resume up and list more than 10 easily, but that requires work and most of you are all too naive to take me serious... After all if you watch Protech's stream so im not even going to take any of you serious. So were naive because we would believe your overall act(ions) instead of just 1 post? Kay. On November 03 2011 04:04 GoldRogers wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 02:55 tehredbanditt wrote: Protech was featured for a reason and defeatured for a reason. I hope teamliquid told him why so that he can work on it and get the featured spot back again. As for the haters in here, the little ammount of exposure that you do get in this game, that you spend SO much time playing, is courtesy of protech. When was the last time you kids did anything of note on this game besides getting on protech nerves every once in a while? Ever get featured stream on tl.net? Ever win a tourney with sponsored, pro players and a purse of over 500 dollars? Ever have a stream that hit over 900 viewers because they just wanted to watch you play? You've gotten more well known through his rantings then you ever would have otherwise. My opinion aside, this was a blow to the 2v2 scene. His stream posted more viewers then the weekly 2v2 tourney for christ sakes (which is very well run and has a couple of great casters and decent games most of the time). He was obviously carried by his grandmaster partner (destructive). Destructive did many crucial games that on the games (Ie reactor blocks). Protech is a low level masters league player who only knows how to all in. This is common knowledge. He claims that 60% of his games goto "macro - IE 2 base LOL" but thats only after his all in fails. Expanding at 11 minutes does not condone macro. I do agree that we need more 2v2 players to stream but protech is a horrible representation and gives a terrible representation of what a "high ranked 2v2 player" is (all in every game, accuse enemies of hacking/stream cheating, constant bm to anyone that beats him). This was clearly evident earlier in this thread even before he got defeatured. Many people complained of being banned after beating him for no reason other than his little hissy fits. Protech is a terrible representation of the 2v2 community, he is racist, paranoid of everyone stream cheating, can only cheese, offensive to any 2v2 random partner that he plays with and loses and is extremely ill mannered and immature. There is a need for a high level 2v2 stream, but protech is the absolute worst candidate. You should open your eyes and actually watch some games, rather than make up your own idea of how he plays. @dAPhREAk: By "comaplin in private" I assume you mean complain to him? I think you have to assume that the opposite is also true. As far as the SotG reference, can you provide a link? I'm very interested in what they had to say. Constructive criticism is always good, so long as you can provide some without being a total ass. =p | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
[spoiler] Game 1 00:07 [All] Catalyst: my ally likes cock all over his face 00:10 [All] MaNNErCHOMP: lol 00:16 [All] Extrovert: i would slam you irl 00:17 [Allies] MaNNErCHOMP: that map lagged me last game 00:20 [All] Catalyst: o rly? 00:21 [Allies] MaNNErCHOMP: sorry 00:24 [All] Catalyst: how much u bench 00:25 [All] Catalyst: son 00:28 [All] Extrovert: fuckin 00:29 [All] Extrovert: slam 00:30 [All] Extrovert: you 00:31 [Allies] Backspace: im rushing 00:36 [All] Catalyst: kid 00:38 [All] Catalyst: i am 00:39 [All] Catalyst: level 3 00:42 [All] Catalyst: military GFT 00:49 [All] Extrovert: again 00:50 [All] Extrovert: i care 00:51 [All] Extrovert: a lot 00:55 [All] Extrovert: please continue 00:55 [All] Catalyst: then 00:56 [All] Catalyst: why 00:58 [All] Catalyst: do you think 01:01 [All] Catalyst: you can slam me 01:02 [All] Catalyst: i would 01:03 [All] Extrovert: please continue talking 01:05 [All] Catalyst: curb stomp your face 01:07 [All] Catalyst: into oblivion 01:08 [All] Catalyst: son 01:09 [All] Extrovert: about things i dont care about 01:20 [All] Extrovert: you're real good at that 01:22 [All] Catalyst: with a name like 01:24 [All] Catalyst: jahre 01:26 [All] Catalyst: i can only imagine 01:32 [All] Catalyst: a skinny nerd 01:44 [All] Extrovert: and i can only imagine you going down on a guy 01:57 [All] Catalyst: do you have 01:58 [All] Catalyst: downs 01:59 [All] Catalyst: jahre? 02:11 [All] Extrovert: haha 02:52 [Allies] MaNNErCHOMP: this suck 04:21 [Allies] Backspace: we kill purple? 04:24 [Allies] MaNNErCHOMP: ok 09:16 [Allies] MaNNErCHOMP: expand here he is making real life theats Game 2 16:44 [All] Catalyst: lucky newbns 16:46 [All] Catalyst: fucking bullshit this happens almost after every single game he plays Game 3 04:29 [All] haCkProTech: kids probably 04:31 [All] haCkProTech: watching my stream 04:35 [All] haCkProTech: or hacking 05:06 [All] haCkProTech: LOL 05:10 [All] haCkProTech: HE REACTORED 05:12 [All] haCkProTech: HIS SP 05:13 [All] haCkProTech: WTF? 05:51 [All] haCkProTech: ur buddy 05:52 [All] haCkProTech: is cheating 05:55 [All] haCkProTech: one way or another 06:51 [All] haCkProTech: sad geeks 08:09 [All] haCkProTech: u guys are cheating 09:27 [All] haCkProTech: couple of cheating fucks again this happens after every game he plays Game 4 05:24 [All] Catalyst: so horrible 05:30 [All] Catalyst: of course u knew where i spawned based on stream cheating 05:31 [All] Catalyst: so Game 5 00:05 [All] levels: gl 00:14 [All] ArtOfTerran: stfu 00:18 [All] levels: rofl 00:19 [All] levels: u mad? 00:22 [All] ArtOfTerran: yes 00:25 [All] levels: i'd be mad if i lost to backspace too 00:34 [All] levels: i understand =[ 00:35 [All] ProTech: only reason it worked is because he stream cheated 00:36 [All] ArtOfTerran: actually because i lost to you 00:36 [All] ProTech: dw 00:45 [All] levels: i didn't cheat 00:48 [All] levels: check rep myapm never drops 00:53 [All] levels: ur just a sore loser 01:28 [All] levels: not like uve neverseen me proxythere before protech xD 01:39 [All] ProTech: im random 01:43 [All] ProTech: you do it only when im random 01:44 [All] levels: so? 01:45 [All] ProTech: and it always works 01:48 [All] ProTech: and im never zerg 01:48 [All] levels: i didn't see creep 01:50 [All] ProTech: so shut the fuck up 01:51 [All] ProTech: nigger head 01:58 [All] levels: woooo anger 02:41 [All] levels: im sending an email to david kim 02:46 [All] levels: since u called me the n word 02:50 [All] ProTech: good 02:54 [All] levels: i am black that is offensive 03:06 [All] ProTech: good 03:11 [All] levels: feel better? 03:17 [All] levels: if it makes u feel better that's ok i guess 03:59 [All] ArtOfTerran: ally playing SOOO WEIRD 04:11 [All] levels: he's horrible dude i woulda felt sorry for u if u weren't so rude 04:29 [All] ArtOfTerran: i just said weird.. not bad 05:50 [All] ArtOfTerran: so cheesy 05:52 [All] ArtOfTerran: u are blue 05:53 [All] levels: so owned 06:40 [All] levels: fast expo 06:42 [All] levels: win 1v2 06:45 [All] levels: ez 08:36 [Allies] levels: can i get some props for thatdefense? 09:57 [Allies] levels: nice scouting 10:03 [Allies] levels: b 11:06 [Allies] levels: he loaded 11:06 [Allies] levels: going u 11:35 [All] levels: FINISH THEM 11:50 [All] levels: get it? 11:52 [All] levels: like mortal combat 12:15 [All] levels: FATALITY | ||
dAPhREAk
Nauru12396 Posts
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Mythito
Canada230 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:04 GoldRogers wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 02:55 tehredbanditt wrote: Protech was featured for a reason and defeatured for a reason. I hope teamliquid told him why so that he can work on it and get the featured spot back again. As for the haters in here, the little ammount of exposure that you do get in this game, that you spend SO much time playing, is courtesy of protech. When was the last time you kids did anything of note on this game besides getting on protech nerves every once in a while? Ever get featured stream on tl.net? Ever win a tourney with sponsored, pro players and a purse of over 500 dollars? Ever have a stream that hit over 900 viewers because they just wanted to watch you play? You've gotten more well known through his rantings then you ever would have otherwise. My opinion aside, this was a blow to the 2v2 scene. His stream posted more viewers then the weekly 2v2 tourney for christ sakes (which is very well run and has a couple of great casters and decent games most of the time). He was obviously carried by his grandmaster partner (destructive). Destructive did many crucial games that on the games (Ie reactor blocks). Protech is a low level masters league player who only knows how to all in. This is common knowledge. He claims that 60% of his games goto "macro - IE 2 base LOL" but thats only after his all in fails. Expanding at 11 minutes does not condone macro. I do agree that we need more 2v2 players to stream but protech is a horrible representation and gives a terrible representation of what a "high ranked 2v2 player" is (all in every game, accuse enemies of hacking/stream cheating, constant bm to anyone that beats him). This was clearly evident earlier in this thread even before he got defeatured. Many people complained of being banned after beating him for no reason other than his little hissy fits. Protech is a terrible representation of the 2v2 community, he is racist, paranoid of everyone stream cheating, can only cheese, offensive to any 2v2 random partner that he plays with and loses and is extremely ill mannered and immature. There is a need for a high level 2v2 stream, but protech is the absolute worst candidate. zerg is a support race in 2v2, just like in brood war, did zerg ever get a higher score than the p/t in brood war? no, does that mean that every zerg in 2v2 sucked? no, why else would having a zerg on your team in brood war be absolutely essential? i never saw a 2v2 in bw without a zerg playing muta support to the immobile p/t deathballs. getting more than 2 base in 2v2 is hard. having watched most z33k 2v2 weeklys and the PSTL tournies, and a lot of the 2v2s in the EG masters cups.. i can tell you no one ever consistently gets more than 2 bases. he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask? | ||
GoldRogers
19 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote: he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask? He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation. | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:16 dAPhREAk wrote: i meant complain to mods in private, not complain to protech. i assume most people who dont like him wouldn't bother to complain to him. i am not going to go through the sotg vods and find the reference. jp said something to the effect of "protech's stream is something you have to watch at least once in your life" and everyone laughed. he wasn't saying it in a complimentary manner though. it may have been a reference to his 3v3 or 4v4 games though to be fair. Um they were talking about streamers that don't get enough viewers in that SOTG, protechs name came up right away /shake head See its people like you that say these things and then people who don't know anything about protech are like "oMG manner chomp and some guy said things its the truth!!" Look at mannerchomp, the most vocal one of you. I've proven he is a hypocritical lying annoying little kid who teamkills people he doesn't like and is admitted "future" streamcheater just in this thread. Outside of this thread I have BANNED him at least 20 times on his "MANNERCHOMP###" twitch TV accounts and probably a lot more on the smurf accounts that randomly come in and say something doggish. Protech HAS proven that he is a stream cheater in my eyes (hint: I'm a scientist, I look at things objectively and without bias). You wonder why Protech doesn't give the time of day to random people he meets online ala you? Because the people at the top level are consistently BM, rude and annoying and a few of them were friends who turned into scumbags. Also if you go through the news threads, a good number of what i'd consider high profile non teamliquid people vouch for protech. Ya I'm sure people talk in private about how hes bad but considering he was getting around 300-400 viewers i'm sure theres a lot more that talk about how he's an entertaining broadcaster who has to deal with so much shit. | ||
Mythito
Canada230 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:26 GoldRogers wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote: he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask? He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation. mm and everyone who uses the word gay disparagingly is a homophobe? everyone who uses the word retard is prejudice against mentally handicapped? racism isn't binary, it's not a 1 or a 0, it's a scale, and unless you're actively discriminating by not serving certain ethnicities in a store or something like that, who the fuck cares? saying nigger to random people on the internet who you don't know anything beyond a username is like a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10. | ||
GoldRogers
19 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:31 Mythito wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 04:26 GoldRogers wrote: On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote: he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask? He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation. mm and everyone who uses the word gay disparagingly is a homophobe? everyone who uses the word retard is prejudice against mentally handicapped? racism isn't binary, it's not a 1 or a 0, it's a scale, and unless you're actively discriminating by not serving certain ethnicities in a store or something like that, who the fuck cares? saying nigger to random people on the internet who you don't know anything beyond a username is like a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10. I guess that why blizzard doesn't have a report button for racism. OH WAIT. Go call someone a nigger on team liquid see what happens. Its still on the internet right? Your logic is terribly flawed. Racism is not acceptable anywhere, just because YOU think its acceptable doesn't mean the rest of the community does. Your low standards for interaction is not shared by everyone else, I'm sorry. | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:34 GoldRogers wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 04:31 Mythito wrote: On November 03 2011 04:26 GoldRogers wrote: On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote: he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask? He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation. mm and everyone who uses the word gay disparagingly is a homophobe? everyone who uses the word retard is prejudice against mentally handicapped? racism isn't binary, it's not a 1 or a 0, it's a scale, and unless you're actively discriminating by not serving certain ethnicities in a store or something like that, who the fuck cares? saying nigger to random people on the internet who you don't know anything beyond a username is like a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10. I guess that why blizzard doesn't have a report button for racism. OH WAIT. Go call someone a nigger on team liquid see what happens. Its still on the internet right? Your logic is terribly flawed. Racism is not acceptable anywhere, just because YOU think its acceptable doesn't mean the rest of the community does. Your low standards for interaction is not shared by everyone else, I'm sorry. You're stupid, I'm pure bred from India and I am one of the more senior mods and protech has yellow fever and raps while listening to WU-TANG REAL racIST. yo daphreAK, these are the people who are on your side. rofl jokes | ||
GoldRogers
19 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:37 askTeivospy wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 04:34 GoldRogers wrote: On November 03 2011 04:31 Mythito wrote: On November 03 2011 04:26 GoldRogers wrote: On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote: he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask? He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation. mm and everyone who uses the word gay disparagingly is a homophobe? everyone who uses the word retard is prejudice against mentally handicapped? racism isn't binary, it's not a 1 or a 0, it's a scale, and unless you're actively discriminating by not serving certain ethnicities in a store or something like that, who the fuck cares? saying nigger to random people on the internet who you don't know anything beyond a username is like a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10. I guess that why blizzard doesn't have a report button for racism. OH WAIT. Go call someone a nigger on team liquid see what happens. Its still on the internet right? Your logic is terribly flawed. Racism is not acceptable anywhere, just because YOU think its acceptable doesn't mean the rest of the community does. Your low standards for interaction is not shared by everyone else, I'm sorry. You're stupid, I'm pure bred from India and I am one of the more senior mods and protech has yellow fever and raps while listening to WU-TANG REAL racIST. yo daphreAK, these are the people who are on your side. rofl jokes Resorting to ad hominem when you can't provide an explanation for his blatant racism. These are the kinds of people that support protech. | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:42 GoldRogers wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 04:37 askTeivospy wrote: On November 03 2011 04:34 GoldRogers wrote: On November 03 2011 04:31 Mythito wrote: On November 03 2011 04:26 GoldRogers wrote: On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote: he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask? He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation. mm and everyone who uses the word gay disparagingly is a homophobe? everyone who uses the word retard is prejudice against mentally handicapped? racism isn't binary, it's not a 1 or a 0, it's a scale, and unless you're actively discriminating by not serving certain ethnicities in a store or something like that, who the fuck cares? saying nigger to random people on the internet who you don't know anything beyond a username is like a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10. I guess that why blizzard doesn't have a report button for racism. OH WAIT. Go call someone a nigger on team liquid see what happens. Its still on the internet right? Your logic is terribly flawed. Racism is not acceptable anywhere, just because YOU think its acceptable doesn't mean the rest of the community does. Your low standards for interaction is not shared by everyone else, I'm sorry. You're stupid, I'm pure bred from India and I am one of the more senior mods and protech has yellow fever and raps while listening to WU-TANG REAL racIST. yo daphreAK, these are the people who are on your side. rofl jokes Resorting to when you can't provide an explanation for his blatant racism. These are the kinds of people that support protech. QED. words aren't racism unless you're 12. fear of association with other races so you ignore / attack them is racism | ||
dAPhREAk
Nauru12396 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:29 askTeivospy wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 04:16 dAPhREAk wrote: i meant complain to mods in private, not complain to protech. i assume most people who dont like him wouldn't bother to complain to him. i am not going to go through the sotg vods and find the reference. jp said something to the effect of "protech's stream is something you have to watch at least once in your life" and everyone laughed. he wasn't saying it in a complimentary manner though. it may have been a reference to his 3v3 or 4v4 games though to be fair. Um they were talking about streamers that don't get enough viewers in that SOTG, protechs name came up right away /shake head See its people like you that say these things and then people who don't know anything about protech are like "oMG manner chomp and some guy said things its the truth!!" Look at mannerchomp, the most vocal one of you. I've proven he is a hypocritical lying annoying little kid who teamkills people he doesn't like and is admitted "future" streamcheater just in this thread. Outside of this thread I have BANNED him at least 20 times on his "MANNERCHOMP###" twitch TV accounts and probably a lot more on the smurf accounts that randomly come in and say something doggish. Protech HAS proven that he is a stream cheater in my eyes (hint: I'm a scientist, I look at things objectively and without bias). You wonder why Protech doesn't give the time of day to random people he meets online ala you? Because the people at the top level are consistently BM, rude and annoying and a few of them were friends who turned into scumbags. Also if you go through the news threads, a good number of what i'd consider high profile non teamliquid people vouch for protech. Ya I'm sure people talk in private about how hes bad but considering he was getting around 300-400 viewers i'm sure theres a lot more that talk about how he's an entertaining broadcaster who has to deal with so much shit. what a joke: "objectively and without bias." if you think they were praising protech on sotg, you have some serious comprehension issues. also, why are you grouping me with mannerchomp? i dont like him either. | ||
GoldRogers
19 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:44 askTeivospy wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 04:42 GoldRogers wrote: On November 03 2011 04:37 askTeivospy wrote: On November 03 2011 04:34 GoldRogers wrote: On November 03 2011 04:31 Mythito wrote: On November 03 2011 04:26 GoldRogers wrote: On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote: he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask? He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation. mm and everyone who uses the word gay disparagingly is a homophobe? everyone who uses the word retard is prejudice against mentally handicapped? racism isn't binary, it's not a 1 or a 0, it's a scale, and unless you're actively discriminating by not serving certain ethnicities in a store or something like that, who the fuck cares? saying nigger to random people on the internet who you don't know anything beyond a username is like a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10. I guess that why blizzard doesn't have a report button for racism. OH WAIT. Go call someone a nigger on team liquid see what happens. Its still on the internet right? Your logic is terribly flawed. Racism is not acceptable anywhere, just because YOU think its acceptable doesn't mean the rest of the community does. Your low standards for interaction is not shared by everyone else, I'm sorry. You're stupid, I'm pure bred from India and I am one of the more senior mods and protech has yellow fever and raps while listening to WU-TANG REAL racIST. yo daphreAK, these are the people who are on your side. rofl jokes Resorting to when you can't provide an explanation for his blatant racism. These are the kinds of people that support protech. QED. words aren't racism unless you're 12. fear of association with other races so you ignore / attack them is racism By your logic, calling someone a "Nigger" is not racist if the person are 13. Okay, I can tell I'm debating with a heavily uneducated audience. You can continue believing Protech is a nicest person in the world that cares about all creeds and sexual orientation. | ||
Mythito
Canada230 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:34 GoldRogers wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 04:31 Mythito wrote: On November 03 2011 04:26 GoldRogers wrote: On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote: he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask? He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation. mm and everyone who uses the word gay disparagingly is a homophobe? everyone who uses the word retard is prejudice against mentally handicapped? racism isn't binary, it's not a 1 or a 0, it's a scale, and unless you're actively discriminating by not serving certain ethnicities in a store or something like that, who the fuck cares? saying nigger to random people on the internet who you don't know anything beyond a username is like a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10. I guess that why blizzard doesn't have a report button for racism. OH WAIT. Go call someone a nigger on team liquid see what happens. Its still on the internet right? Your logic is terribly flawed. Racism is not acceptable anywhere, just because YOU think its acceptable doesn't mean the rest of the community does. Your low standards for interaction is not shared by everyone else, I'm sorry. blizzard has a report button for racism because you can say racist things on the internet, you can say "black people should still be slaves" < that's racist. has protech ever said anything like that? and as for when i said racism is acceptable, please point that out because i'm pretty sure i didnt. i said that it's not worth caring about someone saying nigger randomly on the internet. it's like if someone calls something gay on the internet should people really care about that? don't you think it's a little more important to establish gay marriage universally? don't you think it's a little more important to make laws that treat homosexuals and heterosexuals as equal? don't you think that institutional racism is a little bit more important than someone saying nigger to someone who is in all probability not even black? if you think my logic is flawed, you need to actually listen and think about my words and stop pulling assumptions and accusations out of your ass | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:51 GoldRogers wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 04:44 askTeivospy wrote: On November 03 2011 04:42 GoldRogers wrote: On November 03 2011 04:37 askTeivospy wrote: On November 03 2011 04:34 GoldRogers wrote: On November 03 2011 04:31 Mythito wrote: On November 03 2011 04:26 GoldRogers wrote: On November 03 2011 04:18 Mythito wrote: he's not racist, he is paranoid of everyone stream cheating but only because of the shitheads like mannerchomp and proclan trolling him, he is as offensive as idra and no more so. protech isn't perfect, but he is the best 2v2 candidate so far, and what more can you ask? He liberally uses the derogatory term "Nigger" and "Nigga" on stream. But I guess hes not racist right? If he SAYS hes not racist and uses "Nigger" as a offensive term to call people, he CAN'T be racist right? Its sad when his few fanboy's blatantly lie in a desperate attempt to save his joke a of a reputation. mm and everyone who uses the word gay disparagingly is a homophobe? everyone who uses the word retard is prejudice against mentally handicapped? racism isn't binary, it's not a 1 or a 0, it's a scale, and unless you're actively discriminating by not serving certain ethnicities in a store or something like that, who the fuck cares? saying nigger to random people on the internet who you don't know anything beyond a username is like a 3 on a scale of 1 to 10. I guess that why blizzard doesn't have a report button for racism. OH WAIT. Go call someone a nigger on team liquid see what happens. Its still on the internet right? Your logic is terribly flawed. Racism is not acceptable anywhere, just because YOU think its acceptable doesn't mean the rest of the community does. Your low standards for interaction is not shared by everyone else, I'm sorry. You're stupid, I'm pure bred from India and I am one of the more senior mods and protech has yellow fever and raps while listening to WU-TANG REAL racIST. yo daphreAK, these are the people who are on your side. rofl jokes Resorting to when you can't provide an explanation for his blatant racism. These are the kinds of people that support protech. QED. words aren't racism unless you're 12. fear of association with other races so you ignore / attack them is racism By your logic, calling someone a "Nigger" is not racist if the person are 13. Okay, I can tell I'm debating with a heavily uneducated audience. You can continue believing Protech is a nicest person in the world that cares about all creeds and sexual orientation. did you know we're on the internet? By your logic a good chunk (undoubtedly including yourself) is racist and homophobic for the words they use over the internet also, why are you grouping me with mannerchomp? i dont like him either. yes objective and bias, before i watched the replay evidence / reasoning / live games against mannerchomp I had no idea who mannerchomp was. Afterwards I agree with protech he's 100% stream cheat and his behavior just in this thread alone reinforces that imo Good you don't like him though, +respect. Now imagine all the other annoying mannerchompesque regulars (Teivotip: they obsess so much that they made a facebook group where they routinely insult him) that we have to deal with and maybe you'd feel some empathy concerning the shit protech and the stream in general has to deal with | ||
xiver
Serbia18 Posts
I don't mind BM and rage, but then again I'm not 15y old girl... Destiny and IdrA BM twice as much and what are they: respected and recognized players... Protech streams every game he plays, maybe he is a sore loser sometimes, but his skill level and game understanding are unquestionable... so pls instead of wasting time criticizing, go do something useful, or get laid, thay might help! EDIT: typo | ||
Azide
Canada566 Posts
based on the link some dude sent me about sorcery hacking from tQ's post... yeah definitely looks like a hack but who is cryptoplasm? is that vitamin? cause it was either cryptoplasm hacking and cancelled robo or sorcery was telling him this shit over skype/vent -- but its definitely incriminating and i wouldnt be surprised. but tQ has played with vitamin since this so i dont see how this makes me any worse than tQ as tQ was one of protechs allies for a long time | ||
insomdapowahouz
Canada58 Posts
That is not an argument. I've spent a few hours watching your stream and that's enough to have an opinion, and one that many people share; 2v2 games are fucking awful. You then have your one of your partners posts this gem: "When was the last time you kids did anything of note on this game besides getting on protech nerves every once in a while? Ever get featured stream on tl.net? Ever win a tourney with sponsored, pro players and a purse of over 500 dollars?" You're shit talking anyone who disagrees with you, and then saying "YEA LOL WE HAD THE LOWEST RATED NON-BW STREAM AND WON A 2v2 TOURNY AGAINST 1v1 PLAYERS AFTER SPENDING 8 HOURS A DAY PLAYING 2v2, YEAH WE'RE GOSU AS SHIT AND EVERYTHING YOU SAYS IS WRONG" There are literally like 10+ 200-300 view non featured streams that are far, far more deserving of attention than you are. Grow up. | ||
hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:29 askTeivospy wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 04:16 dAPhREAk wrote: i meant complain to mods in private, not complain to protech. i assume most people who dont like him wouldn't bother to complain to him. i am not going to go through the sotg vods and find the reference. jp said something to the effect of "protech's stream is something you have to watch at least once in your life" and everyone laughed. he wasn't saying it in a complimentary manner though. it may have been a reference to his 3v3 or 4v4 games though to be fair. Because the people at the top level are consistently BM, rude and annoying and a few of them were friends who turned into scumbags. Your passion and desire to stay so firmly lodged to Protech's scrotum is clouding your judgement. The only person who turned in to [more of] a scumbag, as if it were even possible, was Protech. He deleted his entire friend list and ignored a good portion of the better 2v2 players just as he started streaming. Are you so naive that you think it's a coincidence nobody likes him? I guess so, for the same reason you think protech offers some deep insight to the game when in reality he just never scouts and does cheesy and poorly thought out builds. | ||
tehredbanditt
103 Posts
On November 03 2011 06:31 insomdapowahouz wrote: 'ProTech' your argument is I just must not watch your stream enough, and I have no idea what I'm talking about. That is not an argument. I've spent a few hours watching your stream and that's enough to have an opinion, and one that many people share; 2v2 games are fucking awful. You then have your one of your partners posts this gem: "When was the last time you kids did anything of note on this game besides getting on protech nerves every once in a while? Ever get featured stream on tl.net? Ever win a tourney with sponsored, pro players and a purse of over 500 dollars?" You're shit talking anyone who disagrees with you, and then saying "YEA LOL WE HAD THE LOWEST RATED NON-BW STREAM AND WON A 2v2 TOURNY AGAINST 1v1 PLAYERS AFTER SPENDING 8 HOURS A DAY PLAYING 2v2, YEAH WE'RE GOSU AS SHIT AND EVERYTHING YOU SAYS IS WRONG" There are literally like 10+ 200-300 view non featured streams that are far, far more deserving of attention than you are. Grow up. Some of the pro teams were (are) very active in the 2v2 ladder/scene and had played together since BW. Also, the team that got 2nd place also took 2v2 very seriously and ended up getting sponsored by a well known team. I can understand if you don't like protech, but understating that tourney win is not fair. There was alot of talent there. | ||
hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
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Zidane
United States1683 Posts
On November 02 2011 15:17 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Regarding ProTechs stream: ...... Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints. All I gotta say is karma's a bitch ain't it. You piss enough people off, they'll end up screwing you in the ass in the end. lawlerblades | ||
baba1
Canada355 Posts
Stop being so butt hurted over words that were said on a stream and not even aimed at you. Go watch that episode of SOTG where they talked about words not meaning exactly what they are supposed to mean. Like if I say: you mad coz protech raped you in 2v2? Does it actually mean that he sexually raped you and you gonna sue him for it? NO! if he is happy to see his buddy bandit and says : SUP NIGGA !! does it instantly mean that he hates black ppl ? NO !! now stfu and grow up kid. Second thing I'd like to point out is all you haters are gonna hate. I'd like to see how YOU would do in PTSL. | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:44 dAPhREAk wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 04:29 askTeivospy wrote: On November 03 2011 04:16 dAPhREAk wrote: i meant complain to mods in private, not complain to protech. i assume most people who dont like him wouldn't bother to complain to him. i am not going to go through the sotg vods and find the reference. jp said something to the effect of "protech's stream is something you have to watch at least once in your life" and everyone laughed. he wasn't saying it in a complimentary manner though. it may have been a reference to his 3v3 or 4v4 games though to be fair. Um they were talking about streamers that don't get enough viewers in that SOTG, protechs name came up right away /shake head See its people like you that say these things and then people who don't know anything about protech are like "oMG manner chomp and some guy said things its the truth!!" Look at mannerchomp, the most vocal one of you. I've proven he is a hypocritical lying annoying little kid who teamkills people he doesn't like and is admitted "future" streamcheater just in this thread. Outside of this thread I have BANNED him at least 20 times on his "MANNERCHOMP###" twitch TV accounts and probably a lot more on the smurf accounts that randomly come in and say something doggish. Protech HAS proven that he is a stream cheater in my eyes (hint: I'm a scientist, I look at things objectively and without bias). You wonder why Protech doesn't give the time of day to random people he meets online ala you? Because the people at the top level are consistently BM, rude and annoying and a few of them were friends who turned into scumbags. Also if you go through the news threads, a good number of what i'd consider high profile non teamliquid people vouch for protech. Ya I'm sure people talk in private about how hes bad but considering he was getting around 300-400 viewers i'm sure theres a lot more that talk about how he's an entertaining broadcaster who has to deal with so much shit. what a joke: "objectively and without bias." if you think they were praising protech on sotg, you have some serious comprehension issues. also, why are you grouping me with mannerchomp? i dont like him either. Going purely on memory about SotG for either you or tievoSpy isn't helping at all. It's all "he said, she said" without links/proof. And he's not so much as grouping you with them (which would suck), just stating that you are on the same side. Which you are. On November 03 2011 04:16 dAPhREAk wrote: i meant complain to mods in private, not complain to protech. i assume most people who dont like him wouldn't bother to complain to him. i am not going to go through the sotg vods and find the reference. jp said something to the effect of "protech's stream is something you have to watch at least once in your life" and everyone laughed. he wasn't saying it in a complimentary manner though. it may have been a reference to his 3v3 or 4v4 games though to be fair. Why would people go tell a TL mod about wht they see on a JustinTV/twitch stream? That doesn't even make any sense, and they can't do anything about that at all. Plus, you're assuming, so that doesn't matter at all. @mannerCHOMP: So, basically, what you did is post "logs" of Protech bitching at people that already have a problem with. Including yourself in game 1. You're kidding, right? That's a fucking joke. Let's get some "logs" of IdrA vs crunCher, or earlier games of Destiny vs CombatEX as well. (Note: "logs" is in quotations because they aren't the actual logs, just outtakes from what could be logs, and can be taken heavily out of context.) Edit: Ohhey, GoldRogers (awesome name btw, One Piece <3). I just noticed that you have a remarkable 11 posts. They wouldn't all be in this topic and the Site Changes topic all bashing ProTech, would they? Seems like an alternate account, or one of manner's buddies, to me. | ||
Azide
Canada566 Posts
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Azide
Canada566 Posts
On November 03 2011 07:27 Zidane wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 15:17 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Regarding ProTechs stream: ...... Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints. All I gotta say is karma's a bitch ain't it. You piss enough people off, they'll end up screwing you in the ass in the end. lawlerblades lol man i misinterpreted this post twice now... sigh | ||
insomdapowahouz
Canada58 Posts
Yeah you won a tournament and there were some arguably good pairs there. Okay, but how about the rest of my post you know where I address how you're using that as a substitute for logic/an argument. Also, what you're saying is the players who exclusively practice 2v2 took top first and second place in... gasp... a 2v2 tourny? Do you really think ret/shet or select/optik practised for that shit? Because laddering into masters 2v2 isn't "practicing". The rest of the "team players" are just bottom of the barrel players on respectable teams such as EGs pair, xSix, and ?mouz or simply regular players on bottom of the barrel teams (vVv, tQ, etc..) Still, none of this is even relevant. This is about what TL wants their stream page to be and represent (which you obviously don't live up to). | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On November 03 2011 08:05 insomdapowahouz wrote: Also, what you're saying is the players who exclusively practice 2v2 took top first and second place in... gasp... a 2v2 tourny? Do you really think ret/shet or select/optik practised for that shit? Because laddering into masters 2v2 isn't "practicing". The rest of the "team players" are just bottom of the barrel players on respectable teams such as EGs pair, xSix, and ?mouz or simply regular players on bottom of the barrel teams (vVv, tQ, etc... Yea... because *gasp* it was a 2v2 tournament. That's why it's completely relevant. Also, SeleCt/optik are well-known for being a really good 2v2 team, and I THINK Ret/Sheth are as well (don't quote me on that second part). Talking about 1v1 players doesn't matter at all, since it's a different kind of game, which translates to different games as well. I'm a beast at 2v2/Doubles in Pokemon, but suck in 1v1/Singles. =p Edit: lol poor azide. I saw those 2 posts too xD | ||
GoldRogers
19 Posts
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On November 03 2011 08:14 GoldRogers wrote: Thank god that down syndrome piece of shit didn't get featured again. Horray for Team Liquid! Wow, nice attitude. | ||
Rive
United States11 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12396 Posts
On November 03 2011 08:21 Rive wrote: Whether you Like Protech Or Dislike Him, you can all Agree 100% The Reason his stream was De-Featured was his poor attitude, his constant complaining, his constant accusations of Hacking / Stream cheating, His constant paranoia of Sorcery and the way he treats everyone he plays. He has no one to blame but himself, Maybe if he actually starts changing these things he will be featured again. I believe him becoming featured got to his head and he began to think he was above everyone else. not really. the reason he was defeatured was because of his stream numbers, and no notable factors to overcome those low numbers. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 03 2011 04:16 dAPhREAk wrote: i meant complain to mods in private, not complain to protech. i assume most people who dont like him wouldn't bother to complain to him. i am not going to go through the sotg vods and find the reference. jp said something to the effect of "protech's stream is something you have to watch at least once in your life" and everyone laughed. he wasn't saying it in a complimentary manner though. it may have been a reference to his 3v3 or 4v4 games though to be fair. daphreak, i'm gonna actually repsond to one of your posts as i'm sick and tired of your retarded accusations and horrible bad manner. the only reason you're out for me is because you lose all the time to me, you dont play 1v1, you only play team games. so stop making it seem like you're high and mighty. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 03 2011 08:21 Rive wrote: Whether you Like Protech Or Dislike Him, you can all Agree 100% The Reason his stream was De-Featured was his poor attitude, his constant complaining, his constant accusations of Hacking / Stream cheating, His constant paranoia of Sorcery and the way he treats everyone he plays. He has no one to blame but himself, Maybe if he actually starts changing these things he will be featured again. I believe him becoming featured got to his head and he began to think he was above everyone else. Wrong. | ||
hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
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Rive
United States11 Posts
On November 03 2011 08:30 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 08:21 Rive wrote: Whether you Like Protech Or Dislike Him, you can all Agree 100% The Reason his stream was De-Featured was his poor attitude, his constant complaining, his constant accusations of Hacking / Stream cheating, His constant paranoia of Sorcery and the way he treats everyone he plays. He has no one to blame but himself, Maybe if he actually starts changing these things he will be featured again. I believe him becoming featured got to his head and he began to think he was above everyone else. Wrong. Liquid`Nazgul- Regarding ProTechs stream: The numbers ProTech pulls are not sufficient enough for us to justify a featured stream. When it comes to making exceptions for streamers with low numbers we look at contribution, notoriety and results which are all lacking from ProTech. Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints. Not wrong | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 03 2011 08:33 Rive wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 08:30 ProTech wrote: On November 03 2011 08:21 Rive wrote: Whether you Like Protech Or Dislike Him, you can all Agree 100% The Reason his stream was De-Featured was his poor attitude, his constant complaining, his constant accusations of Hacking / Stream cheating, His constant paranoia of Sorcery and the way he treats everyone he plays. He has no one to blame but himself, Maybe if he actually starts changing these things he will be featured again. I believe him becoming featured got to his head and he began to think he was above everyone else. Wrong. Liquid`Nazgul- Regarding ProTechs stream: The numbers ProTech pulls are not sufficient enough for us to justify a featured stream. When it comes to making exceptions for streamers with low numbers we look at contribution, notoriety and results which are all lacking from ProTech. Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints. Not wrong Obviously, you didn't see the third mail. | ||
hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
On November 03 2011 08:34 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 08:33 Rive wrote: On November 03 2011 08:30 ProTech wrote: On November 03 2011 08:21 Rive wrote: Whether you Like Protech Or Dislike Him, you can all Agree 100% The Reason his stream was De-Featured was his poor attitude, his constant complaining, his constant accusations of Hacking / Stream cheating, His constant paranoia of Sorcery and the way he treats everyone he plays. He has no one to blame but himself, Maybe if he actually starts changing these things he will be featured again. I believe him becoming featured got to his head and he began to think he was above everyone else. Wrong. Liquid`Nazgul- Regarding ProTechs stream: The numbers ProTech pulls are not sufficient enough for us to justify a featured stream. When it comes to making exceptions for streamers with low numbers we look at contribution, notoriety and results which are all lacking from ProTech. Added to this we have received a lot of complaints regarding his behavior. When it comes to making exceptions we would rather err on the side of caution and not feature a stream that gets so many complaints. Not wrong Obviously, you didn't see the third mail. oops | ||
dAPhREAk
Nauru12396 Posts
On November 03 2011 08:30 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 04:16 dAPhREAk wrote: i meant complain to mods in private, not complain to protech. i assume most people who dont like him wouldn't bother to complain to him. i am not going to go through the sotg vods and find the reference. jp said something to the effect of "protech's stream is something you have to watch at least once in your life" and everyone laughed. he wasn't saying it in a complimentary manner though. it may have been a reference to his 3v3 or 4v4 games though to be fair. daphreak, i'm gonna actually repsond to one of your posts as i'm sick and tired of your retarded accusations and horrible bad manner. the only reason you're out for me is because you lose all the time to me, you dont play 1v1, you only play team games. so stop making it seem like you're high and mighty. so, you aren't bad mannered in your games? because that is the "retarded accusation" i am making, and apparently everyone else. i am out to get you because you are an asshole on your stream and dont deserve to be featured; i am not trying to hide that all. i never said i was better than you, or even that i am good so the ad hominem is ineffective. it really is neither here nor there though because tl.net thinks you dont deserve being featured, and that was all i want. maybe you should use your 8-10 hour days and get a real job now. | ||
xiver
Serbia18 Posts
There are his messages for readers pleasure: protech sucks. if you didn't suck, you may understand that. he is also an asshole, which is why people dislike him. and he got defeatured because of it. oooooops, at the end of the day you can say whatever you want, but he was defeatured, so in my mind i have already won. thanks for feeling sorry for me! oh, by the way, protech sucks. if anybody cared about 2v2, he would be nowhere near the top. Who is this guy and why is he so obsessed, does he have crush, is he just mad, sad or something else? | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On November 03 2011 09:00 xiver wrote: I love how all those kids watch protech channel and then come here and talk shit. dAPhREAk even sent me PM how he consider his victory Protech being unfeatured... There are his messages for readers pleasure: Show nested quote + protech sucks. if you didn't suck, you may understand that. he is also an asshole, which is why people dislike him. and he got defeatured because of it. oooooops, at the end of the day you can say whatever you want, but he was defeatured, so in my mind i have already won. Show nested quote + thanks for feeling sorry for me! oh, by the way, protech sucks. if anybody cared about 2v2, he would be nowhere near the top. Who is this guy and why is he so obsessed, does he have crush, is he just mad, sad or something else? idk if thats true but regardless i posted this already On November 02 2011 16:07 askTeivospy wrote: i think the most annoying part about all of this is that I know how a lot of you actually are rude and deserve bans just from modding the stream for last 8 months and then seeing the polar opposite behavior on teamliquid, because you're really touting that whole maturity banner here. schizophrenic People just hide how they actually are, its sad imo | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On November 03 2011 09:00 xiver wrote: I love how all those kids watch protech channel and then come here and talk shit. dAPhREAk even sent me PM how he consider his victory Protech being unfeatured... There are his messages for readers pleasure: Show nested quote + protech sucks. if you didn't suck, you may understand that. he is also an asshole, which is why people dislike him. and he got defeatured because of it. oooooops, at the end of the day you can say whatever you want, but he was defeatured, so in my mind i have already won. Show nested quote + thanks for feeling sorry for me! oh, by the way, protech sucks. if anybody cared about 2v2, he would be nowhere near the top. Who is this guy and why is he so obsessed, does he have crush, is he just mad, sad or something else? That's actually messed up of you. You shouldn't be sharing peoples PMs like that. We knew that was how he felt anyway. =p | ||
Mythito
Canada230 Posts
On November 03 2011 08:14 GoldRogers wrote: Thank god that down syndrome piece of shit didn't get featured again. Horray for Team Liquid! User was temp banned for this post. hilarious that he's all "holier than thou" and high and mighty when someone uses the word nigger but then he names someone a downs syndrome blah blah.. does he think racism is bad but making fun of people with disabilities is good? | ||
Mawwrice
Switzerland23 Posts
When he says some of you are cheating, ok, he tries to prove it by showing replays and explaining why he thinks so. Unfortunately all the guys incriminated are not streaming, so actually we cant have a proof of the contrary. ProTech is an entertaining stream, he is talking to the viewers, explaining stuff and so on. This is just what we need. If you don like it just go away or simply don't come here like pussies to say all these bull***ts because of your boyish frustration. | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
Apparently the Staff has been getting a ton of responses about this issue. Can you guys please withhold from mailing them for now? Thanks. And lol good job =p | ||
MiteCrow
Ireland38 Posts
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bunnyhop
Canada2 Posts
It doesn't. You don't have to watch his stream and support him if you don't want to. You only bm him because you have some personal thing against him (being accused of streamcheating, etc.) but you won't really gain anything from it. And if you are actually cheating (I'm sure there are lots) then your posts are even less justified. | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On November 03 2011 11:19 MadeinSeptember wrote: For what its worth I am happy to see that TeamLiquid staff are taking a look at who they have been featuring and making adjustments accordingly. This is one case that I was very happy to see was no longer featured on this site. The racial slurs he has uttered whenever I saw his stream were unreal, not to mention the other hateful comments I have seen him utter. The way he treats people and the harrassment he gives to poeple on ladder were abysmal and then if he ever lost he would blame them for cheating and slander them in general. All in all I felt having a person performing such as this whilst being featured was a little sad to see. I just thought I would share a few words on the matter. sorry if this was the wrong place to leave this feedback, but lots of other people already seem to be voicing their thought here already so i threw my hat in the ring. TL staff have done well in my eyes by making this decision. Thanks Also. I have read many of the comments and i know he had a warning wen you would go to watch the stream about possible vulgarities and I understand that. The above text was merely a reflection of how I felt seeing behavior like that being featured on TeamLiquid. I know his stream and his conduct on it are his own business, I just thought little to see it being featured. This was indeed the correct place to bring your concerns, so thank you. =) Well, there's only 2 main parts I would like to address, so I will do that. 1) You understand that majority of the things he says are to people that are constantly harassing him and being BM in a numbah of ways, right? Like to mannerCHOMP. As far as the "racism" goes, it's to the same group of trolls. At the ends of games, he points out mistakes of bad players, which he either goes about in a bad way or a good way (depending on both parties). It varies. It's just end-of-the-game rage upon losing, basically. Nobody takes that too seriously. And he has never, from what I've seen, actually harassed anybody outside of the troll group. 2) The way he treats people and the harrassment he gives to poeple on ladder were abysmal and then if he ever lost he would blame them for cheating and slander them in general. - This is complete bullshit. I don't know why you would even post this, as nobody in their right mind would say something like that. mannerCHOMP would, but I can only say that because he said that like 2 pages ago. | ||
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United States7681 Posts
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 03 2011 11:19 MadeinSeptember wrote: Sorry I have found a more appropraite thread to place my comment. If a moderator happens upon this please feel free to delete this post. Thanks Never said any type of racial slur in a derogatory manner. EDIT: And if this goes for my stream, then it should for streams such as destiny etc. | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
On November 03 2011 12:21 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 11:19 MadeinSeptember wrote: Sorry I have found a more appropraite thread to place my comment. If a moderator happens upon this please feel free to delete this post. Thanks Never said any type of racial slur in a derogatory manner. 01:50 [All] ProTech: so shut the fuck up 01:51 [All] ProTech: nigger head | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 03 2011 12:21 CHOMPMannER wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 12:21 ProTech wrote: On November 03 2011 11:19 MadeinSeptember wrote: Sorry I have found a more appropraite thread to place my comment. If a moderator happens upon this please feel free to delete this post. Thanks Never said any type of racial slur in a derogatory manner. 01:50 [All] ProTech: so shut the fuck up 01:51 [All] ProTech: nigger head Obviously this isn't in a derogatory manner as I never mentioned anything about a black person, Also, to note, he's taking that completely out of context, I said that after he made me lose 5~10 games in a row simply due to his back stabbing, so it's justified. | ||
CHOMPMannER
Canada175 Posts
01:24 [All] Catalyst: jahre 01:26 [All] Catalyst: i can only imagine 01:32 [All] Catalyst: a skinny nerd 01:44 [All] Extrovert: and i can only imagine you going down on a guy 01:57 [All] Catalyst: do you have 01:58 [All] Catalyst: downs 01:59 [All] Catalyst: jahre? Making fun of less fortunate people with down syndrome.. And no it was a game vs Levels not me How can you seriously say I am taking that out of context? Any time you use the N word in hatred towards another player is derogatory. That is racism, ignorance and hatred.... Bad for promoting the starcraft 2 community, that is why you should not be featured. | ||
hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On November 03 2011 12:25 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 12:21 CHOMPMannER wrote: On November 03 2011 12:21 ProTech wrote: On November 03 2011 11:19 MadeinSeptember wrote: Sorry I have found a more appropraite thread to place my comment. If a moderator happens upon this please feel free to delete this post. Thanks Never said any type of racial slur in a derogatory manner. 01:50 [All] ProTech: so shut the fuck up 01:51 [All] ProTech: nigger head Obviously this isn't in a derogatory manner as I never mentioned anything about a black person,. This is a joke, right? Racial slurs aren't derogatory as long as they're not directed at black people? There is absolutely NOTHING RACIST WHATSOEVER about calling somebody a *ahem* "nigger head"? Jeeeeez, how could anyone misinterpret your unyielding tolerance as racism? Who fucking cares what's derogatory and what's not. Using those words isn't appropriate for you in any context. Learn a more mature vocabulary and stop making yourself look like a fool. | ||
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Zidane
United States1683 Posts
On November 03 2011 12:21 CHOMPMannER wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 12:21 ProTech wrote: On November 03 2011 11:19 MadeinSeptember wrote: Sorry I have found a more appropraite thread to place my comment. If a moderator happens upon this please feel free to delete this post. Thanks Never said any type of racial slur in a derogatory manner. 01:50 [All] ProTech: so shut the fuck up 01:51 [All] ProTech: nigger head Do you realize, that if you use it as an insult, by definition, its derogatory.... | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 03 2011 13:03 Zidane wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 12:21 CHOMPMannER wrote: On November 03 2011 12:21 ProTech wrote: On November 03 2011 11:19 MadeinSeptember wrote: Sorry I have found a more appropraite thread to place my comment. If a moderator happens upon this please feel free to delete this post. Thanks Never said any type of racial slur in a derogatory manner. 01:50 [All] ProTech: so shut the fuck up 01:51 [All] ProTech: nigger head Do you realize, that if you use it as an insult, by definition, its derogatory.... Then let me rephrase what I said, It wasn't meant in a derogatory manner. EDIT: and ifyou're going to attack my stream with this racial stuff, then head over to streams like destiny and attack him as well for racial slurs. | ||
Atreides
United States2393 Posts
I like your stream ProTech and watch often because you are on late at night and its nice to see builds for 2v2 so I can try and carry my baddy friends for fun games. I would enjoy more commentary when you are randomteaming and not communicating with partner. That would be sick. | ||
Mythito
Canada230 Posts
On November 03 2011 12:26 CHOMPMannER wrote: 01:22 [All] Catalyst: with a name like 01:24 [All] Catalyst: jahre 01:26 [All] Catalyst: i can only imagine 01:32 [All] Catalyst: a skinny nerd 01:44 [All] Extrovert: and i can only imagine you going down on a guy 01:57 [All] Catalyst: do you have 01:58 [All] Catalyst: downs 01:59 [All] Catalyst: jahre? Making fun of less fortunate people with down syndrome.. And no it was a game vs Levels not me How can you seriously say I am taking that out of context? Any time you use the N word in hatred towards another player is derogatory. That is racism, ignorance and hatred.... Bad for promoting the starcraft 2 community, that is why you should not be featured. that's exactly my point!!! this is the internet,extrovert was implying he was gay with negative connotations, this stuff is all over the internet, my post to the other guy was because he was saying you cant say nigger but you can make fun of downs syndrome. it's hypocritical. and again, everyone is posting so much about him being so racist but they choose to skip over my arguments that it is such a minor form of racism compared to everything else that it doesn't matter at all edit: that's a summary ^^ don't argue with it without reading my other posts and getting my view on the subject fully | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
If BM really mattered, Destiny and others would have been prosecuted waaaaay before Protech. But that's not really the reason. Vendetta much? | ||
oDieN[Siege]
United States2897 Posts
On November 03 2011 13:12 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 13:03 Zidane wrote: On November 03 2011 12:21 CHOMPMannER wrote: On November 03 2011 12:21 ProTech wrote: On November 03 2011 11:19 MadeinSeptember wrote: Sorry I have found a more appropraite thread to place my comment. If a moderator happens upon this please feel free to delete this post. Thanks Never said any type of racial slur in a derogatory manner. 01:50 [All] ProTech: so shut the fuck up 01:51 [All] ProTech: nigger head Do you realize, that if you use it as an insult, by definition, its derogatory.... Then let me rephrase what I said, It wasn't meant in a derogatory manner. EDIT: and ifyou're going to attack my stream with this racial stuff, then head over to streams like destiny and attack him as well for racial slurs. Are you a monkey? Why do you always compare your actions to Destiny's? This isn't monkey-see monkey-do. | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
being realistic though: monkey is a 0/10 diss and you completely dodged what he was getting at. try agaIN edit- actually i'd prefer it if you didn't try again, this whole thread has just went to shit and im getting tired of it | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 03 2011 14:02 ODieN wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 13:12 ProTech wrote: On November 03 2011 13:03 Zidane wrote: On November 03 2011 12:21 CHOMPMannER wrote: On November 03 2011 12:21 ProTech wrote: On November 03 2011 11:19 MadeinSeptember wrote: Sorry I have found a more appropraite thread to place my comment. If a moderator happens upon this please feel free to delete this post. Thanks Never said any type of racial slur in a derogatory manner. 01:50 [All] ProTech: so shut the fuck up 01:51 [All] ProTech: nigger head Do you realize, that if you use it as an insult, by definition, its derogatory.... Then let me rephrase what I said, It wasn't meant in a derogatory manner. EDIT: and ifyou're going to attack my stream with this racial stuff, then head over to streams like destiny and attack him as well for racial slurs. Are you a monkey? Why do you always compare your actions to Destiny's? This isn't monkey-see monkey-do. I giggled. | ||
W0nka
United States7 Posts
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2897 Posts
On November 03 2011 14:19 askTeivospy wrote: calling people animals that can't think for themselves: good mannered and not rude at all. You're just implying that he is less than human. Sort of how actual racists back in the old days used nigger to refer to black people as less than human. being realistic though: monkey is a 0/10 diss and you completely dodged what he was getting at. try agaIN edit- actually i'd prefer it if you didn't try again, this whole thread has just went to shit and im getting tired of it Quick solution: Don't come in the thread. Note: I didn't intend to call him a "monkey" exactly. You would clearly understand that it was a metaphor. Relax, young grasshopper. Try again.. | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On November 03 2011 14:47 ODieN wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 14:19 askTeivospy wrote: calling people animals that can't think for themselves: good mannered and not rude at all. You're just implying that he is less than human. Sort of how actual racists back in the old days used nigger to refer to black people as less than human. being realistic though: monkey is a 0/10 diss and you completely dodged what he was getting at. try agaIN edit- actually i'd prefer it if you didn't try again, this whole thread has just went to shit and im getting tired of it Quick solution: Don't come in the thread. Note: I didn't intend to call him a "monkey" exactly. You would clearly understand that it was a metaphor. Relax, young grasshopper. Try again.. nope you call him monkey and it was a 0/10 diss | ||
oDieN[Siege]
United States2897 Posts
On November 03 2011 14:50 askTeivospy wrote: Show nested quote + On November 03 2011 14:47 ODieN wrote: On November 03 2011 14:19 askTeivospy wrote: calling people animals that can't think for themselves: good mannered and not rude at all. You're just implying that he is less than human. Sort of how actual racists back in the old days used nigger to refer to black people as less than human. being realistic though: monkey is a 0/10 diss and you completely dodged what he was getting at. try agaIN edit- actually i'd prefer it if you didn't try again, this whole thread has just went to shit and im getting tired of it Quick solution: Don't come in the thread. Note: I didn't intend to call him a "monkey" exactly. You would clearly understand that it was a metaphor. Relax, young grasshopper. Try again.. nope you call him monkey and it was a 0/10 diss ?? What on earth- Did you not read what I just typed? Or are you purposely trying to waste my time with idiotic replies? | ||
Zev
United States64 Posts
Destiny can BM all he wants and its ok. =) Incontrol can BM all he wants and its ok. =) Catz can BM and its ok. =) Protech BMs and its NOT OK =( Why does TL have 2 different standards? Ohh, I enjoy all of the players except for Idra. His BM does offend me, I think he crosses the line. | ||
Regime
Australia185 Posts
love ProTech fanboys. | ||
askTeivospy
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
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insomdapowahouz
Canada58 Posts
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Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
On November 03 2011 19:34 askTeivospy wrote: To protech fans: go to http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/mystreams.php and add protech and you'll see his name under a new subgroup called Favourites Done. | ||
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Germany5 Posts
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Germany52 Posts
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Denmark11 Posts
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On November 03 2011 17:30 insomdapowahouz wrote: just thought I'd add that anna prosser has more views streaming 4v4 than you guys do atm Why post this? | ||
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 04 2011 04:53 Ghanburighan wrote: Ok, most of the trolls in this thread have been banned. Peace and quiet for a while. Now for a serious question, what are the usual stream times for ProTech (I'm +1 GMT)? I usually see him in the morning, which should be something like 5 am in the US. But what are the usual times the stream is on? I'm streaming usually from 5pmEST~6amEST. | ||
tyhaack
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2897 Posts
Just sayin. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 04 2011 05:34 ODieN wrote: In all honesty ProTech, you should try using the "timeout" feature on your channel over just an instant "ban". Just sayin. I'll be sure to take this into much consideration. | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On November 04 2011 05:34 ODieN wrote: In all honesty ProTech, you should try using the "timeout" feature on your channel over just an instant "ban". Just sayin. ^O^ are you trying to aggravate people in here? Hasn't all been said and done and you should leave now? | ||
Xiron
Germany1233 Posts
' Why the fuck would HayPro that hasnt accomplished really much, and has about even or less viewers than our ProTech, being one of the most accomplished 2v2 players on the entire globe, get featured while our ProTech, who is one of the most accomplished 2v2 players on the entire globe, is not. ' | ||
baba1
Canada355 Posts
On November 03 2011 15:56 Zev wrote: Idra can BM all he wants and its ok. =) Destiny can BM all he wants and its ok. =) Incontrol can BM all he wants and its ok. =) Catz can BM and its ok. =) Protech BMs and its NOT OK =( Why does TL have 2 different standards? Ohh, I enjoy all of the players except for Idra. His BM does offend me, I think he crosses the line. This is so true. As much as I love Catz, he can get hammered on his stream and make death threats to Deezer and it's all good because he's drunk and it's Deezer. Destiny can get away with pretty much whatever he wants on his stream for some reason. But then Protech says the N word and all of a sudden what's being said on the internet IS SUCH A BIG DEAL. Why? This is sad. | ||
Mythito
Canada230 Posts
On November 04 2011 05:49 askTeivospy wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2011 05:34 ODieN wrote: In all honesty ProTech, you should try using the "timeout" feature on your channel over just an instant "ban". Just sayin. ^O^ are you trying to aggravate people in here? Hasn't all been said and done and you should leave now? i actually think that post was perfectly reasonable criticism. | ||
schI2ler
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Chocobo
United States1108 Posts
On November 04 2011 07:02 schI2ler wrote: i want pr0tech to be featured again. I always enjoyed his cast, and if we say sc2 is not just only 1v1 than we should have the probably best 2v2 player as featured. If 2v2 doesnt have 10k viewers, it will never have them, if we don't give it a spotlight. Agreed. ProTech is the most accomplished 2v2 player in the world. I mean yeah it's only 2v2 and all... but that should still count for something. And it makes no sense at all to lower his status because of simple BM that's half done just to entertain the viewers, when others players do it often without any negative consequences. | ||
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New Zealand784 Posts
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Noro
Canada991 Posts
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Wheelyman
Canada53 Posts
On November 04 2011 05:53 Xiron wrote: The first thing I thought when I saw ProTech not being on the featured list anymore: ' Why the fuck would HayPro that hasnt accomplished really much, and has about even or less viewers than our ProTech, being one of the most accomplished 2v2 players on the entire globe, get featured while our ProTech, who is one of the most accomplished 2v2 players on the entire globe, is not. ' Maybe because Haypro is Liquid`Haypro? o.O Edit : The change of attitude will be much much much appreciated. I might stop by from time to time cuz I really enjoy 2v2s. I got banned a WHILE ago on your sream because I simply disagreed with you ProTech. The timeout over the ban will help a lot with the rage bans. Anyways, good luck with the stream. | ||
JustTray
127 Posts
He calls players out on cheating and supports it with evidence. Some of the people he has called out are TL regulars/veterans. Each time it just gets swept under the rug. Deezer (by proxy of Lone), Lone, Sorcery, etc amongst others. Sorcery even straight up admitted cheating, still cheats on ladder every day, and yet Protech is the BM and uncredible one. This entire situation is very telling of the mods and community of TL. Bad manner troll-kids who power trip whenever possible. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 04 2011 07:09 Flaunt wrote: does protech play 2s on korea ? No, I played on EU, but I couldnt stand the lag. I hear it's 10x worse in KR, otherwise I would. | ||
Alaz
108 Posts
ahahah, serves him right | ||
Coix
Denmark11 Posts
Yeah, sometimes he does 2-3 commercials in a row... But when he is in queue for 10-20 min then who cares!? ProTech re-featured please! | ||
snejstorm
Germany52 Posts
On November 04 2011 07:57 Alaz wrote: thank god, no more horrible attitude and double/triple commericialing his 10 viewers ahahah, serves him right Unbelievable. As if Protech was the only guy serving 2-3 ads after a game... | ||
Mythito
Canada230 Posts
On November 04 2011 08:06 snejstorm wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2011 07:57 Alaz wrote: thank god, no more horrible attitude and double/triple commericialing his 10 viewers ahahah, serves him right Unbelievable. As if Protech was the only guy serving 2-3 ads after a game... yeah but if Alaz's favourite streamer did it he would be happy that they were making some money, not complaining about it | ||
vitHamin
Austria8 Posts
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taylor-
Finland3 Posts
keep up the good work Protech! | ||
FaCE_1
Canada6112 Posts
When I play against or with in (in random team) he is ok. Not sure if he should be featured but I do like to watch his stream time when he play AT with bandy or Power. | ||
Azide
Canada566 Posts
On November 04 2011 08:14 vitHamin wrote: I really enjoy his stream, he shows us some of the best 2v2 out there! clever | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On November 04 2011 08:45 Azide wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2011 08:14 vitHamin wrote: I really enjoy his stream, he shows us some of the best 2v2 out there! clever ohhhhhhhh you lucky you changed your post. I saw what you said before. -_- If you're gonna be BM, at least be constructive. There's no reason to be a douche. | ||
Zealo
Australia40 Posts
On October 16 2011 07:37 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On October 13 2011 13:06 Zealo wrote: my favourite stream by far, watching protech has made 2v2 my favourite format. huge respect for this guy. is there anywhere to see the vods of PTSL2 games with powertech voice chat? protechsc2.com can only find vods with commentators (which i watched live, thinking i would be able to find vods with player chat afterwards) can't with you and power team chat like the vods of destiny and minigun. oh well was still fun to watch took me a few days before i realised not featured any more, i mostly come to TL just to check if protech is streaming and thought he wasn't cause it wasn't on featured list. kinda ridiculous when there are people with less viewers despite being featured not doing anything special as far as i can tell. most of the criticism from the three or four obsessed losers in this thread is bullshit from what i've seen in many hours watching and if TL staff are actually giving their opinions any weight i'll be disappointed. i've always regarded TL as one of the best moderated communities on the web. why the hell have no mods taken any action in this thread? :S | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States42132 Posts
On November 04 2011 08:33 FaCE_1 wrote: I sometime doesn't like protech attitude when he get beat or when he completely rape another team but in general, it's ok. When I play against or with in (in random team) he is ok. Not sure if he should be featured but I do like to watch his stream time when he play AT with bandy or Power. Gotta agree with this. He's definitely a great 2v2 player, but it's kind of sad when he occasionally loses and immediately accuses his opponents of *obviously stream cheating*. He's not perfect. He just lost to my younger brother (SCMango) in a 2v2 game (and they've played against each other many times in the past, aren't very fond of each other, and they've each won and lost a whole lot of times), and I know for a fact that my younger brother doesn't stream cheat. Hell, I just sat next to my brother as he stomped on ProTech this time around. And yet ProTech has no problem accusing him (among others) of cheating without having any reason to (and without even checking the replay). I guess it's his defense mechanism. I do love his background music, and he's still a great 2v2 player. But he needs to learn to take a loss. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 04 2011 09:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2011 08:33 FaCE_1 wrote: I sometime doesn't like protech attitude when he get beat or when he completely rape another team but in general, it's ok. When I play against or with in (in random team) he is ok. Not sure if he should be featured but I do like to watch his stream time when he play AT with bandy or Power. Gotta agree with this. He's definitely a great 2v2 player, but it's kind of sad when he occasionally loses and immediately accuses his opponents of *obviously stream cheating*. He's not perfect. He just lost to my younger brother (SCMango) in a 2v2 game (and they've played against each other many times in the past, aren't very fond of each other, and they've each won and lost a whole lot of times), and I know for a fact that my younger brother doesn't stream cheat. Hell, I just sat next to my brother as he stomped on ProTech this time around. And yet ProTech has no problem accusing him (among others) of cheating without having any reason to (and without even checking the replay). I guess it's his defense mechanism. I do love his background music, and he's still a great 2v2 player. But he needs to learn to take a loss. He was in my stream, while playing me. It's pretty obvious. | ||
Zealo
Australia40 Posts
On November 04 2011 09:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: He just lost to my younger brother (SCMango) in a 2v2 game (and they've played against each other many times in the past, aren't very fond of each other, and they've each won and lost a whole lot of times), and I know for a fact that my younger brother doesn't stream cheat. Hell, I just sat next to my brother as he stomped on ProTech this time around. And yet ProTech has no problem accusing him (among others) of cheating without having any reason to (and without even checking the replay). I guess it's his defense mechanism. i love the way there are so many people saying "protech accused me of stream cheating in front of all his viewers when i wasn't!" when they would have no way of knowing that if they weren't in his stream at the time. | ||
xiver
Serbia18 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States42132 Posts
On November 04 2011 09:57 ProTech wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2011 09:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On November 04 2011 08:33 FaCE_1 wrote: I sometime doesn't like protech attitude when he get beat or when he completely rape another team but in general, it's ok. When I play against or with in (in random team) he is ok. Not sure if he should be featured but I do like to watch his stream time when he play AT with bandy or Power. Gotta agree with this. He's definitely a great 2v2 player, but it's kind of sad when he occasionally loses and immediately accuses his opponents of *obviously stream cheating*. He's not perfect. He just lost to my younger brother (SCMango) in a 2v2 game (and they've played against each other many times in the past, aren't very fond of each other, and they've each won and lost a whole lot of times), and I know for a fact that my younger brother doesn't stream cheat. Hell, I just sat next to my brother as he stomped on ProTech this time around. And yet ProTech has no problem accusing him (among others) of cheating without having any reason to (and without even checking the replay). I guess it's his defense mechanism. I do love his background music, and he's still a great 2v2 player. But he needs to learn to take a loss. He was in my stream, while playing me. It's pretty obvious. That's just plain incorrect. A few minutes after the game, we checked TL to see if you were streaming, and you happened to be, so we popped in for a minute, but that was well after the game had ended. If you think he has time to chat on your stream while cannon rushing you and then playing a macro game, you're sadly mistaken. We only popped into your stream afterwards because he thought you'd be angry at the loss (and you were- you accused him of stream cheating), and we wanted to see if you would check the replay (you didn't). Obviously, you just felt like making accusations for no reason. I'm just not particularly happy that you accuse people of cheating when you lose. You're a good player, but that's a very sad way of making excuses in my opinion. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
[QUOTE]On November 04 2011 09:57 ProTech wrote: [QUOTE]On November 04 2011 09:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: [QUOTE]On November 04 2011 08:33 FaCE_1 wrote: I sometime doesn't like protech attitude when he get beat or when he completely rape another team but in general, it's ok. When I play against or with in (in random team) he is ok. Not sure if he should be featured but I do like to watch his stream time when he play AT with bandy or Power.[/QUOTE] Gotta agree with this. He's definitely a great 2v2 player, but it's kind of sad when he occasionally loses and immediately accuses his opponents of *obviously stream cheating*. He's not perfect. He just lost to my younger brother (SCMango) in a 2v2 game (and they've played against each other many times in the past, aren't very fond of each other, and they've each won and lost a whole lot of times), and I know for a fact that my younger brother doesn't stream cheat. Hell, I just sat next to my brother as he stomped on ProTech this time around. And yet ProTech has no problem accusing him (among others) of cheating without having any reason to (and without even checking the replay). I guess it's his defense mechanism. I do love his background music, and he's still a great 2v2 player. But he needs to learn to take a loss. [/QUOTE] He was in my stream, while playing me. It's pretty obvious.[/QUOTE] Gotcha, well if you think that, then you think that. I'll think the way I think. It's not going to change anything. EDIT: I've shown my stream how mango has stream cheated in the past, there's no reason for me to waste my time doing it | ||
hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
You've "shown", but what you fail to do is prove, because proving someone is stream cheating is nigh impossible. So why don't you just shut the fuck up about it forever? For everyone? As you know, it's a risk you take when you stream, but for the rest of us that queue up 2v2 and have to play you it SHOULDN'T be a risk we take for whooping your ass to get falsely accused. Can't ever give credit where it's due, unless it's to yourself of course. Man up you fkn pansy. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 04 2011 10:20 hipsterHobbit wrote: LMAO no reason for you to waste your time doing it when just accusing people is way easier. You've "shown", but what you fail to do is prove, because proving someone is stream cheating is nigh impossible. So why don't you just shut the fuck up about it forever? For everyone? As you know, it's a risk you take when you stream, but for the rest of us that queue up 2v2 and have to play you it SHOULDN'T be a risk we take for whooping your ass to get falsely accused. Can't ever give credit where it's due, unless it's to yourself of course. Man up you fkn pansy. I have taken your post into consideration. Ive thought about it in the past too. I've said on my stream that it's a risk that all of us streamers as we cannot put a delay on our streams at the exact moment due to the multistream bug but rest assured once that's possible it's going up, delay will be about 5 mins to negate all the accusations. That being said, until then i'm not just gonna be like " I just lost that because they were better. " when for 1) i've already proven that they stream cheat, or 2) it was blatantly obvious. This is just the way it's going to be. I've also said many times that if you just come up front about it, then I have no reason to bitch about it as it is a risk all of us streamers take. But just beacuse my stream was taken off the featured list, that doesn't mean i'm not going to let my crowd know when it happens, it's as simple as that. I'm not going to be bad mannered about, but im still going to point it out, period. | ||
hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
It's not about you, it's about the people you falsely accuse. Your ego obviously disallows you to recognize the predicament faced by those who have had wins "de-legitimized" to an extent because of your false accusations. "He was probably listening to my stream, because I said if he opened forge I wouldn't make lings". more false accusations, I turned your stream on after the game just so I could hear the fact that you're still spouting false bullshit about people YOU don't like because they know how to beat you. My ally attacked me with his drones at the start of that game anyways, but you of course don't even look at the economy tab or anything before spouting off false accusations. Some things never change, ExcuseTech. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 04 2011 10:35 hipsterHobbit wrote: Okay, so you're never going to man up. All I see there is more excuses. It's not about you, it's about the people you falsely accuse. Your ego obviously disallows you to recognize the predicament faced by those who have had wins "de-legitimized" to an extent because of your false accusations. "He was probably listening to my stream, because I said if he opened forge I wouldn't make lings". more false accusations, I turned your stream on after the game just so I could hear the fact that you're still spouting false bullshit about people YOU don't like because they know how to beat you. My ally attacked me with his drones at the start of that game anyways, but you of course don't even look at the economy tab or anything before spouting off false accusations. Some things never change, ExcuseTech. You are entitled to you opinion. You are not being forced to watch my stream, if you not happy with the content, then don't watch it. | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On November 04 2011 10:20 hipsterHobbit wrote: LMAO no reason for you to waste your time doing it when just accusing people is way easier. You've "shown", but what you fail to do is prove, because proving someone is stream cheating is nigh impossible. So why don't you just shut the fuck up about it forever? For everyone? As you know, it's a risk you take when you stream, but for the rest of us that queue up 2v2 and have to play you it SHOULDN'T be a risk we take for whooping your ass to get falsely accused. Can't ever give credit where it's due, unless it's to yourself of course. Man up you fkn pansy. Nice attitude. kid. | ||
hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
On November 04 2011 10:42 hipsterHobbit wrote: Defamation of character (slander) is against the law. It's a game, nobody is going to press charges, but why don't you have some fucking decency and sportsmanship in lieu of that fact? I do. | ||
hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
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MaV_gGSC
Canada1345 Posts
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SlimeBagly
356 Posts
On November 04 2011 10:42 hipsterHobbit wrote: Defamation of character (slander) is against the law. It's a game, nobody is going to press charges, but why don't you have some fucking decency and sportsmanship in lieu of that fact? I would love to see someone press charges over being called a stream cheater. I'll pitch in on the legal fees. | ||
rhs408
United States904 Posts
On November 03 2011 03:53 CHOMPMannER wrote: lol thanks, im pretty sure im here to stay though Hope the door didn't hit you in the ass on the way out mr. masters player rofl u actually thought u were gm level that was a bit cruel of Blizz though (error in gm league, people got in who shouldn't have)... the sound of all the egos that were shattered was deafening Sorry to see that you got de-featured ProTech, but it looks like it has already had a positive effect on yourself and your stream in general. Sometimes it is very difficult to admit to yourself and realize that you could be going about things in a better way, hopefully this serves as a wake up call and turning point for you, your stream, and your potential contribution to the 2v2 community/player base. | ||
Azide
Canada566 Posts
On November 04 2011 08:54 VashTS wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2011 08:45 Azide wrote: On November 04 2011 08:14 vitHamin wrote: I really enjoy his stream, he shows us some of the best 2v2 out there! clever ohhhhhhhh you lucky you changed your post. I saw what you said before. -_- If you're gonna be BM, at least be constructive. There's no reason to be a douche. i guess you didn't realize his account name and # of posts... i wasnt being BM | ||
iiGreetings
Canada563 Posts
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hipsterHobbit
United States218 Posts
And even if he is right 80% of the time, does that make the injustice of being slandered served to the 20% who were wrongly accused fair? | ||
Selendiis
Sweden7 Posts
Compared to Protech he is working on his intelligence. Even tho Kenny have a brain to think with.. and Protech not o_o | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
To protech fans: go to http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/mystreams.php and add protech and you'll see his name under a new subgroup called Favourites | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
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vitHamin
Austria8 Posts
On November 04 2011 11:44 Azide wrote: Show nested quote + On November 04 2011 08:54 VashTS wrote: On November 04 2011 08:45 Azide wrote: On November 04 2011 08:14 vitHamin wrote: I really enjoy his stream, he shows us some of the best 2v2 out there! clever ohhhhhhhh you lucky you changed your post. I saw what you said before. -_- If you're gonna be BM, at least be constructive. There's no reason to be a douche. i guess you didn't realize his account name and # of posts... i wasnt being BM I'm not vitamin if you think that... | ||
RastaMonsta
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On November 05 2011 01:31 RastaMonsta wrote: lol MANNERCHOMP weres ur shit talk about u bein in GM? yea master league scrub He knew he wasn't actually in GM (unless he is that big of an idiot, which I still do not believe he is), he was just talking more shit, trying to be above ProTech in whatever way he could. | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/protech | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
Come learn. Or troll. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
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Daihawk
Australia3 Posts
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Bazzyrick
United Kingdom361 Posts
Tune in, watching these 2 is absolute slaughter. http://www.twitch.tv/protech | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
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thygenesis
United States14 Posts
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12396 Posts
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Makica
Canada180 Posts
On November 02 2011 15:26 VashTS wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote: I didn't say he accuses everyone of stream cheating. I said he disparages everyone he loses to in different ways. Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote: Any team he loses to he accuses of stream cheating, doing some unfair strategy, etc and goes on a tirade about how bad they are. That's you saying you didn't say x, and then you saying x just previously. =/ No, This is me giving a list of the different things he does. I wasn't obviously clear enough with my English I'll admit that, the "etc" indicates a lazy response, but I didn't expect somebody who is clearly a stream moderator or friend of protech's to come try really hard and bold and underline my text to attempt to discredit my post for his benefit. Most people would understand it. If you are still confused I'll make it easy. "He does x, y or z, etc if he loses". So when I say "he doesn't always do x" do you understand now? The stream quality went up a day after he was defeatured, with some "ggs" given and an attempt at unbiased discussion and less people got banned on the stream. However, this fell back down again drastically a day later to where it is now and has been for a long time. If 2 GM solo players who got 2nd in the z33k 2v2 tourney are considered "just bad" and "bad" , "really bad", I dunno what to say. | ||
askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On November 16 2011 03:46 Makica wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 15:26 VashTS wrote: On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote: I didn't say he accuses everyone of stream cheating. I said he disparages everyone he loses to in different ways. On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote: Any team he loses to he accuses of stream cheating, doing some unfair strategy, etc and goes on a tirade about how bad they are. That's you saying you didn't say x, and then you saying x just previously. =/ No, This is me giving a list of the different things he does. I wasn't obviously clear enough with my English I'll admit that, the "etc" indicates a lazy response, but I didn't expect somebody who is clearly a stream moderator or friend of protech's to come try really hard and bold and underline my text to attempt to discredit my post for his benefit. Most people would understand it. If you are still confused I'll make it easy. "He does x, y or z, etc if he loses". So when I say "he doesn't always do x" do you understand now? The stream quality went up a day after he was defeatured, with some "ggs" given and an attempt at unbiased discussion and less people got banned on the stream. However, this fell back down again drastically a day later to where it is now and has been for a long time. If 2 GM solo players who got 2nd in the z33k 2v2 tourney are considered "just bad" and "bad" , "really bad", I dunno what to say. Vash isn't moderator he doesn't have what it takes to moderate the endless amount of retards that deserved bans for being completely offensive towards broadcaster / stream people in general. ie people that come in spouting hate and come here and act all good mannered because now they're on a missION but in secret PM's they're still all rude and obnoxious since they're cowardZ, or the millions of mannerchoMP alts that i've had to personally deal with Anyways dude i don't see how its "back to the same level like it has been for a long time" in terms of banning people when its been much much more slack seeing as viewers dropped down 1/3 from average (300 to 100 from what I've seen) and I haven't had to ban anyone other than the occasional bot. even that is an exaggeration since I haven't banned any bot Are you part of the vocal minority of SC2 community that likes to criticize people over pointless things/fabrications for no reason other than to get their voices heard over an anonymous medium? I think you mIgHT bE | ||
Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On November 16 2011 03:46 Makica wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2011 15:26 VashTS wrote: On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote: I didn't say he accuses everyone of stream cheating. I said he disparages everyone he loses to in different ways. On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote: Any team he loses to he accuses of stream cheating, doing some unfair strategy, etc and goes on a tirade about how bad they are. That's you saying you didn't say x, and then you saying x just previously. =/ No, This is me giving a list of the different things he does. I wasn't obviously clear enough with my English I'll admit that, the "etc" indicates a lazy response, but I didn't expect somebody who is clearly a stream moderator or friend of protech's to come try really hard and bold and underline my text to attempt to discredit my post for his benefit. Most people would understand it. If you are still confused I'll make it easy. "He does x, y or z, etc if he loses". So when I say "he doesn't always do x" do you understand now? The stream quality went up a day after he was defeatured, with some "ggs" given and an attempt at unbiased discussion and less people got banned on the stream. However, this fell back down again drastically a day later to where it is now and has been for a long time. If 2 GM solo players who got 2nd in the z33k 2v2 tourney are considered "just bad" and "bad" , "really bad", I dunno what to say. Ah, my mistake then. But no, I'm not a mod or anything, sorry to disappoint ^^ He's had moments where he's been manner and BM always, just like most people, but bias only allows some people to see that "he BMs EVERYBODY after EVERY game" and other similar claims. It is true, however, that he has been trying to be more manner as of late. As for the drastic drop in quality, I haven't seen it, so I can't say anything one way or the other. On November 16 2011 15:44 askTeivospy wrote: Show nested quote + On November 16 2011 03:46 Makica wrote: On November 02 2011 15:26 VashTS wrote: On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote: I didn't say he accuses everyone of stream cheating. I said he disparages everyone he loses to in different ways. On November 02 2011 03:07 Makica wrote: Any team he loses to he accuses of stream cheating, doing some unfair strategy, etc and goes on a tirade about how bad they are. That's you saying you didn't say x, and then you saying x just previously. =/ No, This is me giving a list of the different things he does. I wasn't obviously clear enough with my English I'll admit that, the "etc" indicates a lazy response, but I didn't expect somebody who is clearly a stream moderator or friend of protech's to come try really hard and bold and underline my text to attempt to discredit my post for his benefit. Most people would understand it. If you are still confused I'll make it easy. "He does x, y or z, etc if he loses". So when I say "he doesn't always do x" do you understand now? The stream quality went up a day after he was defeatured, with some "ggs" given and an attempt at unbiased discussion and less people got banned on the stream. However, this fell back down again drastically a day later to where it is now and has been for a long time. If 2 GM solo players who got 2nd in the z33k 2v2 tourney are considered "just bad" and "bad" , "really bad", I dunno what to say. Vash isn't moderator he doesn't have what it takes to moderate the endless amount of retards that deserved bans for being completely offensive towards broadcaster / stream people in general. Pssh, my ass. I've spent many combined years as an Admin/Mod doing that sort of stuff. The lack of credit disturbs me. </3 =( | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/protech | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
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Caliber
United States598 Posts
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SiN]
United States540 Posts
cant believe they went 13 gate in response to a 10 pool so not standard god side question: did u play fastest in broodwar? or maybe some dota | ||
KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
But you're flaming my friends for being maphackers/stream cheaters like they even need to cheat to beat someone of your skill. As a sort of representative of the 2v2 scene I wish you would act more professionally. Maybe people would take 2v2 more seriously if figures like you would be more mature. I know I've enjoyed a lot of 2v2s in the EG Masters Cup and I hope it can grow. A shame. | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
What is this, high school? Come on, man. | ||
Seiferz
United States640 Posts
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brxnd0n
United States42 Posts
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Agile
Canada32 Posts
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VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On February 08 2012 04:20 dagile wrote: i'm sorry but I have to wonder why is this stream featured again? what happened to TL's whole criteria for actual skilled players to be featured and not just girls and people playing team games? What a bad post. | ||
LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
On February 08 2012 04:20 dagile wrote: i'm sorry but I have to wonder why is this stream featured again? what happened to TL's whole criteria for actual skilled players to be featured and not just girls and people playing team games? yea i agree im not quite sure why. I mean random teaming is nice and all but there are a handful of streamers who stream just as much who are far above and beyond in skill at 1v1 | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
On February 08 2012 04:25 BloodThirsty wrote: Show nested quote + On February 08 2012 04:20 dagile wrote: i'm sorry but I have to wonder why is this stream featured again? what happened to TL's whole criteria for actual skilled players to be featured and not just girls and people playing team games? yea i agree im not quite sure why. I mean random teaming is nice and all but there are a handful of streamers who stream just as much who are far above and beyond in skill at 1v1 I don't understand why people come into a FAN CLUB to bitch and moan. Nothing else better to do than be a hater? | ||
Azide
Canada566 Posts
On February 08 2012 04:35 VashTS wrote: Show nested quote + On February 08 2012 04:25 BloodThirsty wrote: On February 08 2012 04:20 dagile wrote: i'm sorry but I have to wonder why is this stream featured again? what happened to TL's whole criteria for actual skilled players to be featured and not just girls and people playing team games? yea i agree im not quite sure why. I mean random teaming is nice and all but there are a handful of streamers who stream just as much who are far above and beyond in skill at 1v1 I don't understand why people come into a FAN CLUB to bitch and moan. Nothing else better to do than be a hater? Fan club? This looks like a stream thread lol regardless of the quality of their posts, it seems the right place to raise concerns | ||
Xiron
Germany1233 Posts
On February 08 2012 04:35 VashTS wrote: Show nested quote + On February 08 2012 04:25 BloodThirsty wrote: On February 08 2012 04:20 dagile wrote: i'm sorry but I have to wonder why is this stream featured again? what happened to TL's whole criteria for actual skilled players to be featured and not just girls and people playing team games? yea i agree im not quite sure why. I mean random teaming is nice and all but there are a handful of streamers who stream just as much who are far above and beyond in skill at 1v1 I don't understand why people come into a FAN CLUB to bitch and moan. Nothing else better to do than be a hater? The criteria are: 1. High skill level / tournament results - Being winner of various 2v2 tournaments thoughout the entirety of SC2 makes him an accomplished player 2. High average viewer count - Having a constant of around 200 viewers while not being featured is a high average viewer count, comparable to some of the koreans. 3. Notability / contribution - Being almost the only high level 2v2 player that streams makes him notable. 4. Activity - Streaming 12 hours a day, everyday, no need to say more | ||
VashTS
United States1675 Posts
And why be concerned? He's been tested and passed. | ||
rhs408
United States904 Posts
On February 08 2012 04:25 BloodThirsty wrote: Show nested quote + On February 08 2012 04:20 dagile wrote: i'm sorry but I have to wonder why is this stream featured again? what happened to TL's whole criteria for actual skilled players to be featured and not just girls and people playing team games? yea i agree im not quite sure why. I mean random teaming is nice and all but there are a handful of streamers who stream just as much who are far above and beyond in skill at 1v1 Too bad they don't do anything to differentiate themselves from all the rest, hence they (and you) will always remain unfeatured. Good day. | ||
HackBenjamin
Canada1094 Posts
Go ProTech! | ||
Skillver
Austria1309 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
Agile
Canada32 Posts
On February 08 2012 05:24 rhs408 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 08 2012 04:25 BloodThirsty wrote: On February 08 2012 04:20 dagile wrote: i'm sorry but I have to wonder why is this stream featured again? what happened to TL's whole criteria for actual skilled players to be featured and not just girls and people playing team games? yea i agree im not quite sure why. I mean random teaming is nice and all but there are a handful of streamers who stream just as much who are far above and beyond in skill at 1v1 Too bad they don't do anything to differentiate themselves from all the rest, hence they (and you) will always remain unfeatured. Good day. That's basically the same as saying all female streamers should be featured even if they're in diamond or gold just because they're pretty and get a lot of viewers because of it | ||
rckY
Germany116 Posts
On February 08 2012 23:11 Skillver wrote: Oh wow one of the most awful players gets featured again. I was so happy to see him vanish in the underground with his bitchy attitude and now hes back word. Bad day for TL. | ||
askTeivospy
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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
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RogerShah
Netherlands131 Posts
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On February 13 2012 04:34 RogerShah wrote: VashTS is either ProTech himself or his gay friend. Jeez dude, why dont u respect others to have an opinion about the stream? first you open up by trying to disrespect him then you talk about respecting others. | ||
ludden
Germany8 Posts
did ever think about making a daily like day9 ? | ||
KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
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ludden
Germany8 Posts
On February 22 2012 01:50 KapsyL wrote: haha isnt his 20 hours a day streaming enough^^ And where is the problem donating 2hrs a week for some daily ? Would be way more interested in getting commentary on a replay than see him playing with music | ||
KapsyL
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odem
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On February 08 2012 04:44 Xiron wrote: The criteria are: 1. High skill level / tournament results - Being winner of various 2v2 tournaments thoughout the entirety of SC2 makes him an accomplished player 2. High average viewer count - Having a constant of around 200 viewers while not being featured is a high average viewer count, comparable to some of the koreans. 3. Notability / contribution - Being almost the only high level 2v2 player that streams makes him notable. 4. Activity - Streaming 12 hours a day, everyday, no need to say more word in addition: 3. notability - appeared on kings of tin (episode 33), frequently mentioned and referred to in several day9 (still alive btw) 2v2 guides | ||
rossi570
Germany4 Posts
and glad you're playing 2s again. this way u really contribute something to the list of featured streams nobody else does/can do. | ||
poohop
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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
Regardless, keep it up man! | ||
Frail
Iceland336 Posts
Wreck that shit! | ||
parrradize
Germany59 Posts
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
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saladToss
United States75 Posts
There is hardly ever proof - just name calling, slander, and rage. This stream is a blemish on the TL featured stream list and on the 2v2 community. | ||
smoosh
31 Posts
On August 16 2012 07:03 saladToss wrote: Why is this guy still given a spotlight on TL where he can wrongly accuse players of cheating and hacking to an inflated audience? There is hardly ever proof - just name calling, slander, and rage. This stream is a blemish on the TL featured stream list and on the 2v2 community. Even considering false accusations/rage, I'd argue that ProTech is the best thing to ever happen to the 2v2 community. He is extremely dedicated to mastering the game mode and provides hours and hours of extremely high level content to his viewers. I'm pretty sure accusing/raging at people would make up about .01% of all the streaming he has done. At that point you can chalk it up to letting off steam, as he's clearly not utilizing his stream/fanbase just to slander people. | ||
rhs408
United States904 Posts
On August 16 2012 07:03 saladToss wrote: Why is this guy still given a spotlight on TL where he can wrongly accuse players of cheating and hacking to an inflated audience? There is hardly ever proof - just name calling, slander, and rage. This stream is a blemish on the TL featured stream list and on the 2v2 community. Didn't catch this when it was posted, glad smoosh did. TL is LUCKY, as is the rest of the SC2 community, that ProTech streams here. 2v2 games are pretty much always action packed as there is often a rush, which involves a ton of micro - this is where viewers can really learn a lot. ProTech has FANTASTIC micro along with great decision making, it is a real treat to watch! Once in a while I do see him accuse people of stream cheating whom I know for sure are not (such as team Ai Sieech and Lillekanin), but it's not a big deal. I know it's just a product of him getting stream cheated against so much that he's paranoid that everyone does it (and a lot of them do). | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
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skarkus
Canada5 Posts
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Foulum
Denmark24 Posts
But what attracts me most is the scheduled streaming. I know for sure that this awaits me when I return from a long day in school ; | ||
UncleWalty
United States8 Posts
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
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hkese
33 Posts
Listening him talking is more interesting than his gameplay imo. | ||
hkese
33 Posts
http://sc2ranks.com/us/1710302/llllllllllll | ||
Ironjokers
United States1 Post
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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
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hkese
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KapsyL
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KapsyL
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CyKLanD
Germany22 Posts
Always watching =) | ||
KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
Tune in and enjoy the games | ||
hkese
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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
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Cadaver
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Love your stream. Would be great if you upload a replay pack! Could you? | ||
HornyHerring
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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
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XllX
Germany23 Posts
ProTech is THE high level 2v2 streamer, and imo it is the most entertaining Starcraft stream overall. | ||
shdi
United States2 Posts
What is the real reasoning behind this defeatured or unfeatured thing? Did he piss of anybody? Can we see couple examples. Even if he did, he is just practicing his freedom of speech. Please fix this. | ||
tcpip4000
Colombia10 Posts
It doesn't mean the caster do what they say he does. | ||
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KapsyL
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shdi
United States2 Posts
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hkese
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Darkbug
Czech Republic3 Posts
Im not alone who have same opinion on this situation, its just not fair to remove best 2v2 player for false reason like that. Protech stream help me and my friends to play better starcraft and enjoy the game much more and thats matters. | ||
Astet
Austria2 Posts
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Darkbug
Czech Republic3 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States42132 Posts
On January 21 2014 22:12 Darkbug wrote: Astet: if you dont care about his 2v2 stream, how you know, that he dont respect the others? Im too old for your trolling kid. You're the one who called ProTech the "Best 2v2 player". Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill. Not that that particularly matters as far as I know, but it's always curious when a bunch of random people join TL out of the blue just to post for (or against) a player or streamer. I think it would be more constructive to find out where and how you could talk to the people/ moderators of TL who actually are in charge of featured streaming, instead of simply accusing them for unfeaturing him for a "false reason". Find a way to get informed, and then get informed. | ||
Darkbug
Czech Republic3 Posts
Also why not support streamer when i think its not fair? Im watching his stream becouse i found it best for teaching better skills in starcraft, so im happy for that. I can also imagine that all the hackers what he beat or prove their hacking gonna go there and post some stupid lies. | ||
Ctone23
United States1839 Posts
On January 21 2014 22:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill. I'm curious who you think is better than him, in terms of skill, in 2v2? I don't know anything about why he was removed from the feature list but it is sad when you look at his numbers, 1/3 of what they were when he was featured. He's damn good at the game, I will say that. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States42132 Posts
On January 22 2014 02:57 Ctone23 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 21 2014 22:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill. I'm curious who you think is better than him, in terms of skill, in 2v2? I don't know anything about why he was removed from the feature list but it is sad when you look at his numbers, 1/3 of what they were when he was featured. He's damn good at the game, I will say that. The 2v2 rankings over the past 2-3 seasons (at the very least) rarely show him near the top, and plenty of other consistent, better players have been ahead of him for months now. Both in 2v2 RT and AT. Baz, Bubbles, Paragon, Mystik, various Ai/ Demos/ RavenZ clan members, etc. It might be because ProTech hasn't been grinding out 2v2 as seriously as he used to (e.g., he's also trying to become a better 1v1 player), but that's obviously going to take a toll on how he fares against the current best 2v2 players. And clearly it's fine for him to do other things, but then he can't really be advertised as the premier 2v2 player like he used to be a long time ago. He's definitely still a great 2v2 player; there's no doubt about that. And I'm sure those who are his fans are upset with the whole oscillation of him being featured then unfeatured, back and forth. But I'm just not sure how much help it's going to be for new people to make a TL account just to sling mud on TL's decision to unfeature him. EDIT: For the record, I don't think a requirement to get featured is to actually be the best either. There are criteria outlined in the relevant threads. | ||
Ctone23
United States1839 Posts
On January 22 2014 03:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On January 22 2014 02:57 Ctone23 wrote: On January 21 2014 22:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill. I'm curious who you think is better than him, in terms of skill, in 2v2? I don't know anything about why he was removed from the feature list but it is sad when you look at his numbers, 1/3 of what they were when he was featured. He's damn good at the game, I will say that. The 2v2 rankings over the past 2-3 seasons (at the very least) rarely show him near the top, and plenty of other consistent, better players have been ahead of him for months now. I see, thanks! | ||
PesteNoire
151 Posts
On January 22 2014 03:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On January 22 2014 02:57 Ctone23 wrote: On January 21 2014 22:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill. I'm curious who you think is better than him, in terms of skill, in 2v2? I don't know anything about why he was removed from the feature list but it is sad when you look at his numbers, 1/3 of what they were when he was featured. He's damn good at the game, I will say that. The 2v2 rankings over the past 2-3 seasons (at the very least) rarely show him near the top, and plenty of other consistent, better players have been ahead of him for months now. Both in 2v2 RT and AT. Baz, Bubbles, Paragon, Mystik, various Ai/ Demos/ RavenZ clan members, etc. It might be because ProTech hasn't been grinding out 2v2 as seriously as he used to (e.g., he's also trying to become a better 1v1 player), but that's obviously going to take a toll on how he fares against the current best 2v2 players. And clearly it's fine for him to do other things, but then he can't really be advertised as the premier 2v2 player like he used to be a long time ago. He's definitely still a great 2v2 player; there's no doubt about that. And I'm sure those who are his fans are upset with the whole oscillation of him being featured then unfeatured, back and forth. But I'm just not sure how much help it's going to be for new people to make a TL account just to sling mud on TL's decision to unfeature him. EDIT: For the record, I don't think a requirement to get featured is to actually be the best either. There are criteria outlined in the relevant threads. You are actually way wrong. Protech actually got to number 1 2v2 RT on KOREAN server. He is better than all those players listed, he swtiches accounts so often its hard to tell which ones are his. Mystik, bubbles, etc.. those guys only play arranged teams, protech only play Random teams.. He is the best 2v2 random teamer by a mile. Its not even debatable. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States42132 Posts
On January 22 2014 06:26 PesteNoire wrote: Show nested quote + On January 22 2014 03:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On January 22 2014 02:57 Ctone23 wrote: On January 21 2014 22:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill. I'm curious who you think is better than him, in terms of skill, in 2v2? I don't know anything about why he was removed from the feature list but it is sad when you look at his numbers, 1/3 of what they were when he was featured. He's damn good at the game, I will say that. The 2v2 rankings over the past 2-3 seasons (at the very least) rarely show him near the top, and plenty of other consistent, better players have been ahead of him for months now. Both in 2v2 RT and AT. Baz, Bubbles, Paragon, Mystik, various Ai/ Demos/ RavenZ clan members, etc. It might be because ProTech hasn't been grinding out 2v2 as seriously as he used to (e.g., he's also trying to become a better 1v1 player), but that's obviously going to take a toll on how he fares against the current best 2v2 players. And clearly it's fine for him to do other things, but then he can't really be advertised as the premier 2v2 player like he used to be a long time ago. He's definitely still a great 2v2 player; there's no doubt about that. And I'm sure those who are his fans are upset with the whole oscillation of him being featured then unfeatured, back and forth. But I'm just not sure how much help it's going to be for new people to make a TL account just to sling mud on TL's decision to unfeature him. EDIT: For the record, I don't think a requirement to get featured is to actually be the best either. There are criteria outlined in the relevant threads. You are actually way wrong. Protech actually got to number 1 2v2 RT on KOREAN server. He is better than all those players listed, he swtiches accounts so often its hard to tell which ones are his. Mystik, bubbles, etc.. those guys only play arranged teams, protech only play Random teams.. He is the best 2v2 random teamer by a mile. Its not even debatable. He's not even on page one on either of these: http://www.sc2ranks.com/hots/global/2v2t/all/all http://www.sc2ranks.com/hots/global/2v2r/all/all And last season he wasn't near the top 10 (or 20?), let alone #1. And as you can see, plenty of the listed people play RT as well as AT above him. Sorry, but he hasn't been at the top for a while now. I don't want to muck up his stream thread with any more negativity, so I'll stop involving myself in the conversation. I hope his featuring/ unfeaturing becomes more consistent, by whatever metrics are being used for that decision. It's pretty cool that a non-1v1 player has so many followers. | ||
PesteNoire
151 Posts
On January 22 2014 06:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On January 22 2014 06:26 PesteNoire wrote: On January 22 2014 03:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On January 22 2014 02:57 Ctone23 wrote: On January 21 2014 22:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill. I'm curious who you think is better than him, in terms of skill, in 2v2? I don't know anything about why he was removed from the feature list but it is sad when you look at his numbers, 1/3 of what they were when he was featured. He's damn good at the game, I will say that. The 2v2 rankings over the past 2-3 seasons (at the very least) rarely show him near the top, and plenty of other consistent, better players have been ahead of him for months now. Both in 2v2 RT and AT. Baz, Bubbles, Paragon, Mystik, various Ai/ Demos/ RavenZ clan members, etc. It might be because ProTech hasn't been grinding out 2v2 as seriously as he used to (e.g., he's also trying to become a better 1v1 player), but that's obviously going to take a toll on how he fares against the current best 2v2 players. And clearly it's fine for him to do other things, but then he can't really be advertised as the premier 2v2 player like he used to be a long time ago. He's definitely still a great 2v2 player; there's no doubt about that. And I'm sure those who are his fans are upset with the whole oscillation of him being featured then unfeatured, back and forth. But I'm just not sure how much help it's going to be for new people to make a TL account just to sling mud on TL's decision to unfeature him. EDIT: For the record, I don't think a requirement to get featured is to actually be the best either. There are criteria outlined in the relevant threads. You are actually way wrong. Protech actually got to number 1 2v2 RT on KOREAN server. He is better than all those players listed, he swtiches accounts so often its hard to tell which ones are his. Mystik, bubbles, etc.. those guys only play arranged teams, protech only play Random teams.. He is the best 2v2 random teamer by a mile. Its not even debatable. He's not even on page one on either of these: http://www.sc2ranks.com/hots/global/2v2t/all/all http://www.sc2ranks.com/hots/global/2v2r/all/all And last season he wasn't near the top 10 (or 20?), let alone #1. And as you can see, plenty of the listed people play RT as well as AT above him. Sorry, but he hasn't been at the top for a while now. I don't want to muck up his stream thread with any more negativity, so I'll stop involving myself in the conversation. I hope his featuring/ unfeaturing becomes more consistent, by whatever metrics are being used for that decision. It's pretty cool that a non-1v1 player has so many followers. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Protech has only been mostly playing on barcodes and on korean server these days. http://www.sc2ranks.com/hots/fea/2v2r/master/all oh look, there is protech, on a barcode, number one on the korean server. For proof that account is his, you see the last game played on it was 1/09/14.. so going back on his VODs, to that date, here is him playing on it. http://www.twitch.tv/protech/b/493760026 But I already knew it was his because I actually watched his stream when he got number one. You probably have never watched his stream other than turning it on for 5 minutes one time. Any more questions? | ||
XllX
Germany23 Posts
On January 22 2014 03:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: The 2v2 rankings over the past 2-3 seasons (at the very least) rarely show him near the top, and plenty of other consistent, better players have been ahead of him for months now. Both in 2v2 RT and AT. Baz, Bubbles, Paragon, Mystik, various Ai/ Demos/ RavenZ clan members, etc. On January 22 2014 06:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On January 22 2014 06:26 PesteNoire wrote: On January 22 2014 03:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On January 22 2014 02:57 Ctone23 wrote: On January 21 2014 22:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill. I'm curious who you think is better than him, in terms of skill, in 2v2? I don't know anything about why he was removed from the feature list but it is sad when you look at his numbers, 1/3 of what they were when he was featured. He's damn good at the game, I will say that. The 2v2 rankings over the past 2-3 seasons (at the very least) rarely show him near the top, and plenty of other consistent, better players have been ahead of him for months now. Both in 2v2 RT and AT. Baz, Bubbles, Paragon, Mystik, various Ai/ Demos/ RavenZ clan members, etc. It might be because ProTech hasn't been grinding out 2v2 as seriously as he used to (e.g., he's also trying to become a better 1v1 player), but that's obviously going to take a toll on how he fares against the current best 2v2 players. And clearly it's fine for him to do other things, but then he can't really be advertised as the premier 2v2 player like he used to be a long time ago. He's definitely still a great 2v2 player; there's no doubt about that. And I'm sure those who are his fans are upset with the whole oscillation of him being featured then unfeatured, back and forth. But I'm just not sure how much help it's going to be for new people to make a TL account just to sling mud on TL's decision to unfeature him. EDIT: For the record, I don't think a requirement to get featured is to actually be the best either. There are criteria outlined in the relevant threads. You are actually way wrong. Protech actually got to number 1 2v2 RT on KOREAN server. He is better than all those players listed, he swtiches accounts so often its hard to tell which ones are his. Mystik, bubbles, etc.. those guys only play arranged teams, protech only play Random teams.. He is the best 2v2 random teamer by a mile. Its not even debatable. He's not even on page one on either of these: http://www.sc2ranks.com/hots/global/2v2t/all/all http://www.sc2ranks.com/hots/global/2v2r/all/all And last season he wasn't near the top 10 (or 20?), let alone #1. And as you can see, plenty of the listed people play RT as well as AT above him. Sorry, but he hasn't been at the top for a while now. I don't want to muck up his stream thread with any more negativity, so I'll stop involving myself in the conversation. I hope his featuring/ unfeaturing becomes more consistent, by whatever metrics are being used for that decision. It's pretty cool that a non-1v1 player has so many followers. If you actually played or watched 2v2 (or, if you do, were less biased against ProTech), you wouldn't even mention arranged teams (AT), since playing as a somewhat decent arranged team is a gigantic advantage over playing random team (RT). ProTech basically only plays RT these days. Why is ProTech so often not prominent the ladder point list in RT? This is because he rarely uses his/a main account for laddering. His mmr is so high, that queue times are around 20-30 minutes (I have witnessed his queue time going up to an hour once), as the matchmaking system looks to no avail for similarly high rated accounts to match him against. ProTech only needs to use an account for 1-2 days to make its mmr reach a level where queue times become ridiculously long. To avoid these for a streamer unfeasible queue times, ProTech mostly plays on viewer accounts, finding games much faster. On top of the horrendous queue times, stream sniping and stream cheating are rampant when he uses his/a main account. Stream cheating ProTech seems to be a sport for some. CombatEX and Deezer sniping Destiny and Incontrol back in the day is nothing in comparison. So, playing on his/a main account, he has the choice between facing stream cheaters 30-40% of the games and having a 5 minute stream delay, the latter of which impairs the viewer experience, since it eliminates stream interaction for the most part. Usually, ProTech doesn't try to rank up an account in ladder points until roughly the last week of a season. During last season, he mostly laddered on the Korean server, where he did manage to end the season ranked #1 (despite the lag playing from North America!). The "plenty of other consistent, better players" outright don't exist. Most of the ones you mention are vastly inferior. Baz is legitimately good and two seasons or so ago he and ProTech went head to head on NA ladder. And maybe Mystik, but he doesn't really play much at all. | ||
vNmMasterT
68 Posts
On January 22 2014 03:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On January 22 2014 02:57 Ctone23 wrote: On January 21 2014 22:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill. I'm curious who you think is better than him, in terms of skill, in 2v2? I don't know anything about why he was removed from the feature list but it is sad when you look at his numbers, 1/3 of what they were when he was featured. He's damn good at the game, I will say that. The 2v2 rankings over the past 2-3 seasons (at the very least) rarely show him near the top, and plenty of other consistent, better players have been ahead of him for months now. Both in 2v2 RT and AT. Baz, Bubbles, Paragon, Mystik, various Ai/ Demos/ RavenZ clan members, etc. It might be because ProTech hasn't been grinding out 2v2 as seriously as he used to (e.g., he's also trying to become a better 1v1 player), but that's obviously going to take a toll on how he fares against the current best 2v2 players. And clearly it's fine for him to do other things, but then he can't really be advertised as the premier 2v2 player like he used to be a long time ago. He's definitely still a great 2v2 player; there's no doubt about that. And I'm sure those who are his fans are upset with the whole oscillation of him being featured then unfeatured, back and forth. But I'm just not sure how much help it's going to be for new people to make a TL account just to sling mud on TL's decision to unfeature him. EDIT: For the record, I don't think a requirement to get featured is to actually be the best either. There are criteria outlined in the relevant threads. Paragon aka StellarMango aka your maphacking little brother? | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On January 22 2014 06:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On January 22 2014 06:26 PesteNoire wrote: On January 22 2014 03:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: On January 22 2014 02:57 Ctone23 wrote: On January 21 2014 22:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Maybe most popular (which is definitely a good thing), but he's far from #1 in terms of skill. I'm curious who you think is better than him, in terms of skill, in 2v2? I don't know anything about why he was removed from the feature list but it is sad when you look at his numbers, 1/3 of what they were when he was featured. He's damn good at the game, I will say that. The 2v2 rankings over the past 2-3 seasons (at the very least) rarely show him near the top, and plenty of other consistent, better players have been ahead of him for months now. Both in 2v2 RT and AT. Baz, Bubbles, Paragon, Mystik, various Ai/ Demos/ RavenZ clan members, etc. It might be because ProTech hasn't been grinding out 2v2 as seriously as he used to (e.g., he's also trying to become a better 1v1 player), but that's obviously going to take a toll on how he fares against the current best 2v2 players. And clearly it's fine for him to do other things, but then he can't really be advertised as the premier 2v2 player like he used to be a long time ago. He's definitely still a great 2v2 player; there's no doubt about that. And I'm sure those who are his fans are upset with the whole oscillation of him being featured then unfeatured, back and forth. But I'm just not sure how much help it's going to be for new people to make a TL account just to sling mud on TL's decision to unfeature him. EDIT: For the record, I don't think a requirement to get featured is to actually be the best either. There are criteria outlined in the relevant threads. You are actually way wrong. Protech actually got to number 1 2v2 RT on KOREAN server. He is better than all those players listed, he swtiches accounts so often its hard to tell which ones are his. Mystik, bubbles, etc.. those guys only play arranged teams, protech only play Random teams.. He is the best 2v2 random teamer by a mile. Its not even debatable. He's not even on page one on either of these: http://www.sc2ranks.com/hots/global/2v2t/all/all http://www.sc2ranks.com/hots/global/2v2r/all/all And last season he wasn't near the top 10 (or 20?), let alone #1. And as you can see, plenty of the listed people play RT as well as AT above him. Sorry, but he hasn't been at the top for a while now. I don't want to muck up his stream thread with any more negativity, so I'll stop involving myself in the conversation. I hope his featuring/ unfeaturing becomes more consistent, by whatever metrics are being used for that decision. It's pretty cool that a non-1v1 player has so many followers. Screenshots / vods provided being top ranked. Why do people make themselves looks like idiots, when the proof is there? My stream was defeatured from racial chat / homophobic chat / transgender chat. Which you can find on plenty of featured streams on this website. Has nothing to do with my achievements or anything else. I have achieved all you can achieve in 2v2. People who hate my stream got the better of my stream, reported for content they didn't like ( even though it clearly states inappropriate content on both TL and twitch.tv ) and so it got removed. My viewer numbers are there, my skill is there. The drama is what defeatured me. Frankly, I don't care I don't need TL.net to get viewers. But what they did is wrong and obviously they play favorites here. | ||
Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
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Comadevil
Germany214 Posts
TL can give a boost to a streamer who was not featured before (or for a long time like Avilo) and so some people, who never or seldom look into the non-featured section,will discover someone. But i guess the majority of regular TL visitors who are interested in watching streams have seen ProTech already and made their opinion up if they want to watch him or not | ||
iverysmiles
12 Posts
As a lot of you know, for about 6 months now, Protech has been struggling with a debilitating wisdom teeth condition. Whatever controversy has surrounded it, one thing is for certain, he has a serious condition that needs to be addressed. For the procedure he needs $1700. The fact that he has been bearing this pain specifically to CONSTANTLY GIVE VIEWERS CONTENT shows just how committed he is to the community. Now, to head off any people say that protech gets money blah blah blah, well guess what? In the real world people have BILLS to pay. Not everyone can just go out and pay $1700 out of pocket! He has been averaging about $2000-3000 a month in just donations which is classified as LOW INCOME. Anyone who has watched streams for awhile KNOWS that the ad revenue is GARBAGE! As he has said it is laughable at around $300 a month! Protech has averaged around 165 subscribers and has now gotten up to 200. Before you say wow, that's another $1000 a month, you need to THINK and realize that Twitch takes HALF of that money! He only sees an extra $500 a month from that $1000! He has said very specifically that he spends all his money on putting a roof over his head and money in his belly. Anything left over he uses to pay his bills. He doesn't waste it on drugs or any crap like that. If we are going to pull together as a community and get this guy enough money to get past his monthly bills, I feel like we could do that if he were up to around $5,000 a month. If he is breaking even now, then he should be able to get his MUCH NEEDED operation at that level. A lot of people talk a lot about the community and helping out, but I bet a lot of people watch his stream and don't donate or subscribe and probably even use adblock. I agree with Protech, he has been doing this for FOUR YEARS and makes a pittance compared to what other streamers make. He's said he really deserves that kind of success and income but he has continued streaming despite not getting what he is worth. $5 or $10 is probably the price of a movie or a beer, so time to man up people! Oh and to make matters worse, he just lost his No Scope sponsorship after less than one day. They cited "racist and discriminatory" behavior on his chat. Total BS, anyone who has seen his stream knows that he has never said or done anything like that! Just like he said, go look through ALL his vods, you won't find anything like that at all! Just more garbage perpetuated by people. | ||
Gaskal
Canada241 Posts
If you want to ask for help this isn't how you go about doing it. You already started a thread over this issue that a mod closed. Heck, you associated forking over some cash with "manning up". I mean, really? He's also a 2v2 streamer, which is a niche fan following compared to the rest of competitive SC2. So you can't always expect the viewership of 1v1. They cited "racist and discriminatory" behavior on his chat. Total BS, anyone who has seen his stream knows that he has never said or done anything like that Lol laying it on a bit thick aren't you http://imgur.com/m0o3ttg TL defeatures his stream because of it and now you're telling me his sponsors dropped his sponsorship because of it. So obviously attitude seems to be an issue. | ||
iverysmiles
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States42132 Posts
On August 23 2014 08:38 iverysmiles wrote: Community was really supportive of Total biscuit when he got sick, he's a good guy and all, but Protech has literally provided 100+ times more content than TB. As a lot of you know, for about 6 months now, Protech has been struggling with a debilitating wisdom teeth condition. Whatever controversy has surrounded it, one thing is for certain, he has a serious condition that needs to be addressed. For the procedure he needs $1700. The fact that he has been bearing this pain specifically to CONSTANTLY GIVE VIEWERS CONTENT shows just how committed he is to the community. Now, to head off any people say that protech gets money blah blah blah, well guess what? In the real world people have BILLS to pay. Not everyone can just go out and pay $1700 out of pocket! He has been averaging about $2000-3000 a month in just donations which is classified as LOW INCOME. Anyone who has watched streams for awhile KNOWS that the ad revenue is GARBAGE! As he has said it is laughable at around $300 a month! Protech has averaged around 165 subscribers and has now gotten up to 200. Before you say wow, that's another $1000 a month, you need to THINK and realize that Twitch takes HALF of that money! He only sees an extra $500 a month from that $1000! He has said very specifically that he spends all his money on putting a roof over his head and money in his belly. Anything left over he uses to pay his bills. He doesn't waste it on drugs or any crap like that. If we are going to pull together as a community and get this guy enough money to get past his monthly bills, I feel like we could do that if he were up to around $5,000 a month. If he is breaking even now, then he should be able to get his MUCH NEEDED operation at that level. A lot of people talk a lot about the community and helping out, but I bet a lot of people watch his stream and don't donate or subscribe and probably even use adblock. I agree with Protech, he has been doing this for FOUR YEARS and makes a pittance compared to what other streamers make. He's said he really deserves that kind of success and income but he has continued streaming despite not getting what he is worth. $5 or $10 is probably the price of a movie or a beer, so time to man up people! Oh and to make matters worse, he just lost his No Scope sponsorship after less than one day. They cited "racist and discriminatory" behavior on his chat. Total BS, anyone who has seen his stream knows that he has never said or done anything like that! Just like he said, go look through ALL his vods, you won't find anything like that at all! Just more garbage perpetuated by people. You're comparing TotalBiscuit's cancer to ProTech's wisdom teeth? I don't know much about the latter problem (as you didn't go into any detail), but to downplay TB's situation (and then make up the absurd notion that ProTech "has literally provided 100+ times more content than TB", which exactly zero educated people from this community will agree with you on) is despicable. I'm all for ProTech starting some sort of kickstarter or charity fund or whatever if he wants to try and receive more community support (and he seems to have enough of a following that he'll probably make some money that he may need), but you starting off your rant by downplaying other community members' situations and then trying to guilt trip us into donating by saying that ProTech's job-of-choice doesn't pay super well, is not the way to go about this problem. I wish ProTech good health and a safe recovery from whatever his medical issue is. If he does have a serious issue that he believes deserves community support, I hope that he explains his situation in a much less aggressive manner than you have. EDIT: Also, it doesn't help to full-out lie and say that ProTech doesn't act in a racist or discriminatory manner, especially when people dump screen shots of him doing exactly that all the time (e.g., two posts ago). Instead, you might not want to mention anything related to his bigotry when looking to garner support from the community, and just focus on his medical issue. | ||
sc2fanboi
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Gaskal
Canada241 Posts
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vNmMasterT
68 Posts
On August 24 2014 20:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On August 23 2014 08:38 iverysmiles wrote: Community was really supportive of Total biscuit when he got sick, he's a good guy and all, but Protech has literally provided 100+ times more content than TB. As a lot of you know, for about 6 months now, Protech has been struggling with a debilitating wisdom teeth condition. Whatever controversy has surrounded it, one thing is for certain, he has a serious condition that needs to be addressed. For the procedure he needs $1700. The fact that he has been bearing this pain specifically to CONSTANTLY GIVE VIEWERS CONTENT shows just how committed he is to the community. Now, to head off any people say that protech gets money blah blah blah, well guess what? In the real world people have BILLS to pay. Not everyone can just go out and pay $1700 out of pocket! He has been averaging about $2000-3000 a month in just donations which is classified as LOW INCOME. Anyone who has watched streams for awhile KNOWS that the ad revenue is GARBAGE! As he has said it is laughable at around $300 a month! Protech has averaged around 165 subscribers and has now gotten up to 200. Before you say wow, that's another $1000 a month, you need to THINK and realize that Twitch takes HALF of that money! He only sees an extra $500 a month from that $1000! He has said very specifically that he spends all his money on putting a roof over his head and money in his belly. Anything left over he uses to pay his bills. He doesn't waste it on drugs or any crap like that. If we are going to pull together as a community and get this guy enough money to get past his monthly bills, I feel like we could do that if he were up to around $5,000 a month. If he is breaking even now, then he should be able to get his MUCH NEEDED operation at that level. A lot of people talk a lot about the community and helping out, but I bet a lot of people watch his stream and don't donate or subscribe and probably even use adblock. I agree with Protech, he has been doing this for FOUR YEARS and makes a pittance compared to what other streamers make. He's said he really deserves that kind of success and income but he has continued streaming despite not getting what he is worth. $5 or $10 is probably the price of a movie or a beer, so time to man up people! Oh and to make matters worse, he just lost his No Scope sponsorship after less than one day. They cited "racist and discriminatory" behavior on his chat. Total BS, anyone who has seen his stream knows that he has never said or done anything like that! Just like he said, go look through ALL his vods, you won't find anything like that at all! Just more garbage perpetuated by people. You're comparing TotalBiscuit's cancer to ProTech's wisdom teeth? I don't know much about the latter problem (as you didn't go into any detail), but to downplay TB's situation (and then make up the absurd notion that ProTech "has literally provided 100+ times more content than TB", which exactly zero educated people from this community will agree with you on) is despicable. I'm all for ProTech starting some sort of kickstarter or charity fund or whatever if he wants to try and receive more community support (and he seems to have enough of a following that he'll probably make some money that he may need), but you starting off your rant by downplaying other community members' situations and then trying to guilt trip us into donating by saying that ProTech's job-of-choice doesn't pay super well, is not the way to go about this problem. I wish ProTech good health and a safe recovery from whatever his medical issue is. If he does have a serious issue that he believes deserves community support, I hope that he explains his situation in a much less aggressive manner than you have. EDIT: Also, it doesn't help to full-out lie and say that ProTech doesn't act in a racist or discriminatory manner, especially when people dump screen shots of him doing exactly that all the time (e.g., two posts ago). Instead, you might not want to mention anything related to his bigotry when looking to garner support from the community, and just focus on his medical issue. Hey, when are you gonna tell your little brother Jason Mango aka StellarMango aka Paragon to stop hacking? His twitch just got banned I heard. You always seem to be on the moral high ground, why do you have such a scum of a little brother? | ||
Gaskal
Canada241 Posts
On September 17 2014 01:51 vNmMasterT wrote: Hey, when are you gonna tell your little brother Jason Mango aka StellarMango aka Paragon to stop hacking? His twitch just got banned I heard. You always seem to be on the moral high ground, why do you have such a scum of a little brother? So absolutely nothing to do with Protech's medical condition nor addressed what DPB said, what a waste of a post... If PT fans weren't such douchebags maybe he'd actually have a better reputation... | ||
vNmMasterT
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Gaskal
Canada241 Posts
On September 17 2014 02:43 vNmMasterT wrote: I don't see how Protech's medical condition has anything to do with him either. If he had so much time stalking this thread and being a "good guy" (just look at the huge posts here in this thread) then he has time to teach his little brother not to be a scumbag. Such saltiness | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States42132 Posts
On September 17 2014 01:51 vNmMasterT wrote: You always seem to be on the moral high ground Thank you for your kind words; I appreciate you seeing me as a role model and one who always takes the moral high ground. Maybe you see something in myself that I don't, but you've inspired me to continue being the best person I possibly can! That being said, this stream should be about ProTech, so please feel free to PM me if you would like to pay me any other compliments! + Show Spoiler + My brother's Twitch did not get banned because of hacking. If you want to discuss anything, PM me. Publicly making accusations aimed at other TL users or their family members is pretty petty... especially when one could just as easily handle things privately. Also, you clearly don't know my brother, because he's not "scum". And I won't be discussing this any further in a public thread. | ||
DomesticatedPimp
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vNmMasterT
68 Posts
I guess besides hacking to GM, streamcheating vs Protech is his other method to get attention. Just pathetic. | ||
Fyrex
Canada102 Posts
You're just click-baiting for viewers with false claims... that "2v2" should really be at the end. | ||
odem
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castleeMg
Canada743 Posts
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Fyrex
Canada102 Posts
On December 14 2014 20:03 odem wrote: Isn't it misleading for 1v1 players to claim #1 NA when they actually never achieved something in 2v2 tho? O_O no | ||
odem
143 Posts
On December 15 2014 08:40 Fyrex wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2014 20:03 odem wrote: Isn't it misleading for 1v1 players to claim #1 NA when they actually never achieved something in 2v2 tho? O_O no yes yes | ||
Fyrex
Canada102 Posts
On December 15 2014 09:03 odem wrote: yes yes It should simply be clarified in the stream title, that was the point of my post. You're seemingly just being a blind fanboy and not thinking about this. The "random" 2v2 community is a very small fraction of the starcraft community. Browsing the twitch streams and seeing ProTech with nothing but "#1 NA/EU" as the title is an obvious attempt at free viewers as it is a massive claim, and something he simply has not accomplished. | ||
odem
143 Posts
#1 NA are the top of the op. the ultimate machines. vs these guys everything is no contest. to believe an american could actually achieve #1 NA is kinda crazy. #1 NA is like the end boss of all the bigger 1v1 tournaments like code s or wcs finals. even wladimir klitschko and tiger woods said that #1 NA is something like their childrens dream of unparalleled success and achievement. its really outrageous to claim this spot while actually only playing some meaningless 2v2 which is even at the top just full of low wood level players. im totally with u bro! | ||
Fyrex
Canada102 Posts
On December 15 2014 21:59 odem wrote: lol, i know what u mean. #1 NA are the top of the op. the ultimate machines. vs these guys everything is no contest. to believe an american could actually achieve #1 NA is kinda crazy. #1 NA is like the end boss of all the bigger 1v1 tournaments like code s or wcs finals. even wladimir klitschko and tiger woods said that #1 NA is something like their childrens dream of unparalleled success and achievement. its really outrageous to claim this spot while actually only playing some meaningless 2v2 which is even at the top just full of low wood level players. im totally with u bro! Your lack of an argument is only making you look childish. I never claimed #1 NA to be the holy grail of skill. Though it IS a great accomplishment that he has *never* accomplished. He also did have "#1 EU" alongside the NA. If you don't think #1 EU/NA is an irrational claim then you lack the basic competence to post. I also never said 2v2 was meaningless, my only point was that it should specify "2v2" as most people would assume it is 1v1 (the majority fanbase) and click on his stream. Your polar extremes and sarcasm aren't contributing to this discussion. @ ProTech please stop click-baiting and perma-banning those that call you out on it, it's pathetic. Of course you're just going to laugh your way to the bank as you lie to get more fans like odem. | ||
odem
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meadbert
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
I wasn't aware you even thought I was a maphacker until Polar told me why this barcode just quit against us everytime we matched. Then I assumed you thought Polar hacked. Now I found out I maphack too via going onto your stream. Is NA full of maphackers? Yes. Are you insanely, overly paranoid? Ridiculous. | ||
snejstorm
Germany52 Posts
"seriously - just shut the hell up - you are stupid - that's the most amount of down syndrome i have seen in a long time" (c) ProTech, today Seriously protech, go watch another streamer who understands how to build a community of viewers. I once was a great fan of you and 2v2 games in general. But the way you keep ranting about others and eveything and everyone; Insulting your viewers and banning each person you disagree with, even regulars who have been watching you for three years... I hope you find another game to stream, as SC2 obviously is not fullfilling you anymore. Or find a new purpose in life other than streaming 24/7. That's without perspective anyway. So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish. | ||
QuakePhil
United States14 Posts
masters skill at sc2 doesn't automatically make you masters skill at streaming | ||
Hollow
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ProTech
United States427 Posts
Bunch of whiners, it's fucking hysteria. WAAAAAAAAAAH ProTech was mean to me! lelelele | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On February 05 2015 15:47 FabledIntegral wrote: Everyone on NA maphacks. EVERYONE! I wasn't aware you even thought I was a maphacker until Polar told me why this barcode just quit against us everytime we matched. Then I assumed you thought Polar hacked. Now I found out I maphack too via going onto your stream. Is NA full of maphackers? Yes. Are you insanely, overly paranoid? Ridiculous. Or I just choose not play filth like you? | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On March 20 2015 20:18 QuakePhil wrote: as long as protech continues to berate and shit on his viewers, he will stay at 200 viewers, just like he was at 200 viewers 1.5 years ago when I subbed, just like he was at 200 last year when he banned me for asking a single question, and just like he was at 200 the other day when I dropped in (of course the first word I heard out of the stream was "hacker" 5 minutes later followed by a diatribe against winter for some reason and another ban lol) masters skill at sc2 doesn't automatically make you masters skill at streaming No shit shirly, I've never tried to make people like you like me, and I never will. I am who I am, and you can rage all you want, it won't change. If that means I stay at 200 viewers for the rest of my " career " then so be it. I am not going to suck you off so you watch my stream. My personality is what it is, and guess what it's not going to change because being yourself is the only way to be. That is all. | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On December 16 2014 10:25 Fyrex wrote: Show nested quote + On December 15 2014 21:59 odem wrote: lol, i know what u mean. #1 NA are the top of the op. the ultimate machines. vs these guys everything is no contest. to believe an american could actually achieve #1 NA is kinda crazy. #1 NA is like the end boss of all the bigger 1v1 tournaments like code s or wcs finals. even wladimir klitschko and tiger woods said that #1 NA is something like their childrens dream of unparalleled success and achievement. its really outrageous to claim this spot while actually only playing some meaningless 2v2 which is even at the top just full of low wood level players. im totally with u bro! Your lack of an argument is only making you look childish. I never claimed #1 NA to be the holy grail of skill. Though it IS a great accomplishment that he has *never* accomplished. He also did have "#1 EU" alongside the NA. If you don't think #1 EU/NA is an irrational claim then you lack the basic competence to post. I also never said 2v2 was meaningless, my only point was that it should specify "2v2" as most people would assume it is 1v1 (the majority fanbase) and click on his stream. Your polar extremes and sarcasm aren't contributing to this discussion. @ ProTech please stop click-baiting and perma-banning those that call you out on it, it's pathetic. Of course you're just going to laugh your way to the bank as you lie to get more fans like odem. Quick post in the user-stream because if I do it'll change things I don't like! | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On December 15 2014 01:06 castleeMg wrote: he seems like a very negative person, has characteristics of an egomaniac, if hes in a tight situation where hes losing he'll often automatically jump to -> this person is a hacker "FORSURE" with no real proof, just assumptions. cringe worthy stream Says the dweeb who spends all but 5 mins on the stream, but that's ok haters gonna HATE! | ||
ProTech
United States427 Posts
On September 28 2014 02:07 DomesticatedPimp wrote: StellarMango is so much better than Protech it's not even funny. He has been in GM since WoL and has always been much higher rated than Protech in the 2v2 ladder. The hacking accusations are getting so old. It is very clear that StellarMango is not a hacker, otherwise Blizzard would have banned him already. People like Protech accuse him to hack only because Mango has beat him too many times. Believe me, I've watched Mango's stream and getting Protech is EZ win 99% of the time. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND mango's twitch channel banned, his SC2 account is banned, and now you look like a fucking moron, grats! | ||
GenuineSkill
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ProTech
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ProTech
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mantequilla
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CannonKingPrime
57 Posts
On March 17 2016 00:41 mantequilla wrote: why not showing up on TL man I thought you quit :D This site has a hate/hate relationship with ProTech. He was featured, then not, then featured, and now apparently delisted because his account is nuked. Whatever the reason is, ProTech has a great, consistent stream and is really the only good 2v2 streamer. It would be a disservice to downplay ProTech's dedication. The effort and toughness that goes into (1) streaming almost every day for many, many years, (2) streaming many hours each time, (3) playing his hardest pretty much all the time, and (4) regularly interacting with viewers, is mind-boggling. The thing that's stood out to me is that 99% of the time, no matter his mood, ProTech is focused on making the show fun for viewers. This involves things like interacting with chat for a half hour while waiting for a 2v2 queue. And maintaining a relatively cool head even when things get frustrating (and there's no denying that ProTech's occupation itself is trying and frustrating). Whatever venial sins ProTech has committed (knee-jerk map hack accusations, suspicious fundraising, unremarkable BM), they do not warrant delisting what might be, on balance, the best SC2 stream since the game's start. I invite critics to name a relatively high-level streamer who has demonstrated anything even verging on ProTech's dedication to the game and to providing an entertaining stream. Hell, you can even drop the "high-level" qualifier as that's a can of worms. What really bugs me is when some "famous gamer" who decides to pick up SC2 to fiddle with the campaign is featured, but one of the most watched streams is invisible. So many people who mean zero to the scene get top billing. I found ProTech's stream through TL many years ago, so it's important. | ||
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ProTech
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Dreams came true! Thanks to all the support! Here's to another year of streaming! | ||
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