 DeSu Australia. September 28 2009 14:10. Posts 72 | Profile Blog |
Hello TL, this is my first post here so I hope i don't do anything wrong.
Anyway, so I recently started playing battlenet after endlessly raping my older brothers in starcraft, and I'm really enjoying it, I find I learn so much more playing on battlenet. Anyway, I was wondering what is the Zerg counter to the protoss going reavers and corsairs? I usually deal with the corsairs with scourge, but I'm not sure how to take out those damn reavers!
Also, a few more newbie questions:
1. Why do people ask me to ally with them when I beat them?
2. What are these C+, D- ranks and all that I keep hearing about?
Thank you in advance. And if I posted this in the wrong section do tell me. |
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 GiftPflanZe Germany. September 28 2009 14:14. Posts 11 | Profile |
If you see that your opponent does sair and reavers you can usally just pump out MASS hydras to defend the drops kill the sairs and maybe kill him if he is careless.
1.Because they dont want a lose in their stats
2.That is a ladder called Iccup.There Ranks which show your skilllevel.D-,D,D+,C-,C,C+,B-,B,B+,A-,A,A+,Olympic
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 Crunchums United States. September 28 2009 14:15. Posts 3618 | Profile |
Jaedong hydralisks ![[image loading]](http://209.85.62.26/12390/191/emo/teach.gif) |
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| DeSu Australia. September 28 2009 14:26. Posts 72 | Profile Blog |
| thanks. i did go hydralisks, i now see that my problem was i didn't scout for his expansions and didn't expand enough myself. One more question, why can't i select what country i'm from on TL in the profile settings. Is this because i'm under 18? Oh and also, how would I take on a lot of reavers head on (he used them at his forge wall)? Sorry for all the questions lol. |
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| GiftPflanZe Germany. September 28 2009 14:30. Posts 11 | Profile |
I dont know about the country,sry.Never tried it by myself
If his wall is defend well enough you shouldnt attack but often theres a point where he does with some reaver and sairs and got 1-2 reavers on his expansion + a few cannons.you can attack snip the reaver out quickly kill the cannons and kill his expansion = gg
sure it doesent work all the time but often players are careless about their defend.Dont attack his wall if he got more then 2 well placed reaver.if he dosent harras you with his reavers and just stay at his base you can push your economeny and expand a few times |
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 resonance Canada. September 28 2009 14:49. Posts 1274 | Profile Blog |
| bisu is known for dt/sair, not reaver/sair |
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 scintilliaSD Hong Kong. September 28 2009 14:55. Posts 751 | Profile Blog |
| Nal_rA is the original master of Reaver/Sair into Carrier PvZ, and he's the only person I've seen do it successfully (except Pj vs. sAviOr in WCG) |
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 Elite00fm United States. September 28 2009 15:00. Posts 327 | Profile |
You should try playing here:
http://www.iccup.com/
This is the website with the ranks people are asking about. People are much better there and you will improve quicker by playing there. |
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| spoolinoveryou United States. September 28 2009 15:07. Posts 198 | Profile Blog |
On September 28 2009 14:49 resonance wrote:
bisu is known for dt/sair, not reaver/sair
actuallllly bisu is known for reaver/sair also.
i remember watching this build where he went reaver/sair then transitions into sairs/carriers. |
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| DeSu Australia. September 28 2009 15:09. Posts 72 | Profile Blog |
On September 28 2009 15:00 Elite00fm wrote:You should try playing here: http://www.iccup.com/This is the website with the ranks people are asking about. People are much better there and you will improve quicker by playing there.
I'll check it out, but I don't think I have the skill to play there yet. |
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 InFiNitY[pG] Germany. September 28 2009 15:11. Posts 2161 | Profile Blog |
bisu is NOT known for reaver/sair. Of course he can play it, but the only build called the "bisu build" was the one he used in his famous 3-0 against savior, which is fe into 6+ sairs and dt harass. Bisu has used sair/reaver, but very rarely compared to other builds
and as to countering sair/reaver: mass expoing combined with a shitload of upgraded hydras, preferrably with burrow and followed by queens for ensnare and parasiting.
protect each of your bases with a group of hydras and place a couple around his base to intercept, you can use your gas for scourge and try to kill off the shuttles
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| Twilight Templar September 28 2009 15:32. Posts 64 | Profile |
I thought bisu was known for the bisu build not reaver/sair.
Bisu build: Forge FE which transitiones into sairs and DTs. |
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 JFKWT Singapore. September 28 2009 15:35. Posts 702 | Profile Blog |
On September 28 2009 14:55 scintilliaSD wrote:
Nal_rA is the original master of Reaver/Sair into Carrier PvZ, and he's the only person I've seen do it successfully (except Pj vs. sAviOr in WCG)
Stork? =p
countering reaver sair would be killing as many corsairs as possible with scourge/patrolling hydras before they reach the critical no. of ~7 or so. doing drops of your own, targeted at protoss
s gas expos is also good for crippling his reaver/templar count. when going hydras you'll need to keep them alive as reavers can snipe them pretty quickly.
if u manage to scourge his sairs/shuttle then it'll be a huge advantage for you cos u can go muta/hydras respectively and protoss won't be able to stop your unit composition. |
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| DeSu Australia. September 28 2009 15:38. Posts 72 | Profile Blog |
On September 28 2009 15:32 Twilight Templar wrote:
I thought bisu was known for the bisu build not reaver/sair.
Bisu build: Forge FE which transitiones into sairs and DTs.
yeh i was wrong, sorry. got confused |
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 RoieTRS United States. September 28 2009 16:52. Posts 1021 | Profile Blog |
On September 28 2009 14:55 scintilliaSD wrote:
Nal_rA is the original master of Reaver/Sair into Carrier PvZ, and he's the only person I've seen do it successfully (except Pj vs. sAviOr in WCG)
Bisu vs. Jaedong @ andromeda
Stork vs. (some zerg) @ andromeda... was notable because it lasted 90+ minutes.
both were successful sair/reaver -> carrier |
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 Marine50 Australia. September 28 2009 18:01. Posts 1538 | Profile |
On September 28 2009 16:52 RoieTRS wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 28 2009 14:55 scintilliaSD wrote:
Nal_rA is the original master of Reaver/Sair into Carrier PvZ, and he's the only person I've seen do it successfully (except Pj vs. sAviOr in WCG)
Stork vs. (some zerg) @ andromeda... was notable because it lasted 90+ minutes.
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| Julmust Sweden. September 28 2009 18:05. Posts 870 | Profile Blog |
| Best counter: 5hat hydra with hydraspeed before range. check liquipedia for the BO |
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| StarBrift Sweden. September 28 2009 19:06. Posts 556 | Profile |
| Note that you don't want to attack his cannon / reaver defenses head on. Instead take more bases. make more units and you can drop him with hydras later on in the game. |
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| uziasz Poland. September 28 2009 20:40. Posts 28 | Profile |
On September 28 2009 15:09 DeSu wrote:
Show nested quote +On September 28 2009 15:00 Elite00fm wrote:You should try playing here: http://www.iccup.com/This is the website with the ranks people are asking about. People are much better there and you will improve quicker by playing there.
I'll check it out, but I don't think I have the skill to play there yet.
For sure everyone can play there  @ least u can learn there more than on regular bettlenet.
Second thing is that its impossible to muta harass on battlenet due it high latency, so icc is much better at this point cuz there is lan latency and u can do whatever u want with ur mutas.
Thats my advice (and prolly everyone here will tell u to it also) that is better for u to leave bn and join iccup  |
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