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  Wire   United States. October 23 2009 07:25. Posts 97Profile 
Guys not to say that this will or will not be in sc2 but I'm just curious to get a reaction here.

We all know WoW is based on a consistent stream of progress (that is what you do today is dependent on what you did yesterday) and thus it makes sense for Blizzard to charge 15 bucks a month for them to play.

SC is different in the sense that what you do one game does not directly influence what happens the next game, which makes charging money for the gameplay useless.

My question is this:

Would you be willing to pay (say 5 bucks) a month to play sc2, assuming that it lives up to your personal expectations AND some lasting mmo interface is introduced (such as multiplayer campaign missions etc).?

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Poll: Would you pay to play SC2 if it matches your expectations?
(Vote): Yes I would be fine with that.
(Vote): Yea but I'd be pretty pissed
(Vote): No I'd wait for the hacked channels
(Vote): No. Never. Ever.

Last edit: 2009-10-23 12:21:40
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  103Smalls   United States. October 23 2009 07:32. Posts 7Profile 
nope.

  Mutaahh   Netherlands. October 23 2009 07:33. Posts 333Profile 
Yes, I will pay.

But only because I'm a Starcraft fan. And I know this game has potential with competitive gaming. and Custom games.


I can't imagine a person that never played starcraft will pay a subscription for a strategic game.
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  mOnion   United States. October 23 2009 07:35. Posts 540Profile Blog 
ya i'd have to

i'd be pissed though
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  Monstah-_-   October 23 2009 07:35. Posts 159Profile Blog 
I wouldn't. I don't believe any game should have p2p
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  Shiladie   Canada. October 23 2009 07:36. Posts 32Profile 
It would really have to be a fucking crazy awesome game for me to pay to play. I'm not saying it won't, but...

I'll be a parrot here with this line but:
'The reason starcraft 1 did so well, was because:'
you could put it down and pick it up without having to worry, a game where you cancel a subscription you really have to be dedicated to starting to play again to start it back up, instead of saying 'I think I'll just play a game or 2 see if I'll start playing again'

The ability to charge for some custom maps is enough in my opinion, as blizzard will be taking a cut from all of those sales.
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  Meta   United States. October 23 2009 07:36. Posts 3925Profile Blog 
The main reason why WoW is pay-to-play is because they have a team of developers working on that game non-stop, adding new content through patches. Those people need salaries, so it makes sense to charge since you're effectively getting more game over time.

Starcraft 2, after it's expansions, will probably be in more or less the same state for the rest of it's lifespan, much like vanilla. There's no reason to pay over time for a game that never changes.

It just doesn't make sense.

So no, it won't be pay-to-play, and no, I wouldn't pay-to-play if it was.

The post above this one makes a good point, too. If you pay for a month of game time you'd feel obligated to play as much as possible over that month. If your lifestyle warrants only a fraction of the games that other people's do, why should you pay the same amount as them?


Furthermore, Blizzard's cash cow is WoW. They don't need another one, it wouldn't be fair to the fans.
Last edit: 2009-10-23 07:39:16
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  cgrinker   United States. October 23 2009 07:36. Posts 2838Profile Blog 
They already said it wouldn't be there right? So what's the point of talking about a direct pay to play system?

If you mean to say that there might be pay to download content well, that will be in there won't it?
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  mucker   United States. October 23 2009 07:41. Posts 168Profile 
I'd be reluctant to pay for a subscription.

I'd be down for paying to for a tournament with a cash prize that blizz took a cut of or something like that though.
Last edit: 2009-10-23 07:41:40
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  Jonoman92   United States. October 23 2009 07:41. Posts 3756Profile Blog 
Only if that money went towards paying for a system that would stop hacking in ladder/competitive play. Also, if lag could be reduced that would be nice but I realize lag can't be avoided sometimes.
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  Mutaahh   Netherlands. October 23 2009 07:43. Posts 333Profile 

On October 23 2009 07:41 Jonoman92 wrote:
Only if that money went towards paying for a system that would stop hacking in ladder/competitive play. Also, if lag could be reduced that would be nice but I realize lag can't be avoided sometimes.


That should come with the game, not as an extra support when we pay.
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  XsebT   Denmark. October 23 2009 07:48. Posts 166Profile 
Well, it won't happen; but to seem like a rich pimp I'm just gonna say: Hell yeah, bitch! Imma pay 'em money, honey.

  Savio   United States. October 23 2009 07:48. Posts 1345Profile 
asking this question is pointless because ppl will say no in the hopes of swaying Blizzard's decision. The only way to know if someone would willingly pay money per month to play is to release the game that way and see how the market reacts.

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  Ryuu314   United States. October 23 2009 07:51. Posts 87Profile 
It better not happen 'cause if it does I probably won't play SC2 online.

But really, doing that would deter so many fans it's not going to be worth it for Blizzard.
Cogito ergo doleo

  Spawkuring   United States. October 23 2009 07:56. Posts 229Profile 
I wouldn't pay a dime if the game was monthly.

There's absolutely no way to justify a monthly fee over Battle.Net since it works entirely different from an MMO. Games like World of Warcraft have very good justifications for fees because the amount of support required to maintain an MMO is utterly massive.

Here's a link with numbers showing just how massive it is:
http://www.worldofraids.com/news/859-austin-game-developers-conference-the-universe-behind-world-of-warcraft.html

Nothing about an RTS game can match up to that amount of maintenance, and it's why you don't see monthly fees for RTSs. Microtransactions aren't out of the question, but it's up to Blizzard to make sure that they charge for the right things and don't force arbitrary charges for required features.

  Boblion   Andorra. October 23 2009 08:00. Posts 3568Profile Blog 
No way especially because i'm still not convinced that it will be better than bw =)
Last edit: 2009-10-23 08:01:21
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  Tsagacity   United States. October 23 2009 08:00. Posts 1238Profile 

On October 23 2009 07:36 cgrinker wrote:
They already said it wouldn't be there right?
Yep, they've already confirmed that multiple times. My guess is this is just hypothetical due to boredom.
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  hifriend   Sweden. October 23 2009 08:06. Posts 226Profile 
Nah probably not. I'm yet to play a game that I like more than bw after 10 years, so I don't think that's about to change anytime soon.

  Wire   United States. October 23 2009 08:15. Posts 97Profile 
How do you guys feel about the gamers in Korea? would they be willing to pay?

Also on a separate note feel free to comment on how long you think it would take to set up something like iCCup right now for SC2
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  HeavOnEarth   October 23 2009 08:16. Posts 3837Profile Blog 

On October 23 2009 07:43 Mutaahh wrote:

Show nested quote +



That should come with the game, not as an extra support when we pay.

anti- hack measures is an ongoing process, and service, and therefore fee.
the rest of the stuff i agree should come with the game

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