The Last Emperor returns to face underdog Brett Rogers
In all honesty, I expect this to be a short night. Brett Rogers beat an Andrei Arlovski who looked like he gave up as soon as he got punched once, and Fedor should demolish Rogers. Gegard is going to walk through Sokoudjou pretty easily as well, and I expect Werdum to get the upperhand over Antonio Silva. Jake Shields vs Jason Miller might be a bit interesting, as it will be great grappling match, but I expect Shields to dominate there too...
Main Card:
Preliminaries:
Jeff Curran vs Dustin Neace Mark Miller vs Deray Davis Christian Uflacker vs Jonotas Novaes John Kolosci vs Shamar Bailey Louis Taylor vs Nate Moore Marloes Coenen vs Roxanne Modafferi
I'll be straight up, people made a lot bigger of a deal over the way Brett Rogers beat Andrei Arlovski than what should have been made. Arlovski didn't even look like he was ready to fight, he got swarmed, dropped his hands, made no effort to clinch or avoid the punches, and just got dropped in 20 seconds but even then he wasn't really *knocked out* but more or less looked like he just gave up.
Previous to this his two biggest wins were Jon Murphy, a guy who got beat by Chase Gormley and Houston Alexander, and James Thompson (lol.. this guy got beat by Kimbo Slice). So if Fedor loses to this guy, I'm seriously going to quit posting forever, as Fedor should be able to take this to the ground if he really wants, he should even be able to stand up because Fedor's hand speed surpasses everyone in the heavyweight division, and Brett Rogers does have a bit of power but if he wants to brawl with Fedor he's going to get countered to death. Brett Rogers is good, but he's not "Fedor" good, and in my opinion if you rematch Rogers and Arlovski, Arlovski would kill Rogers.
This card seems to me to be a card that basically showcases Strikeforce's top talent, as there are CLEAR underdogs and favourites in this card. Mousasi vs Sokoudjou? Shields vs Miller? I think Antonio Silva is a bit of a dark horse but I do expect Werdum to unleash his fury of hell on Silva, and end the fight via KO.
Nevertheless, this is a high profile card and it's free on TV so everyone should go out and watch this :O It will still be a fun night and all in all, competition for the UFC
Polls:
Poll: Fedor or Rogers? (Vote): Fedor Emelianenko (Vote): Brett Rogers
Poll: Mousasi or Sokoudjou? (Vote): Gegard Mousasi (Vote): Rameau Sokoudjou
Poll: Shields or Miller? (Vote): Jake Shields (Vote): Jason Miller via Bully Beatdown
Fedor Emelianenko and Brett Rogers take in the Chicago Bears vs. Cleveland Browns NFL game on Sunday, Nov. 1 at Soldier Field in Chicago, Ill. Fedor and Rogers will square off against one another at the Sears Centre Arena in Chicago, Ill., for "Strikeforce/M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Rogers" on Saturday, Nov. 7 (9:00 p.m., Live ET / delayed PT) on CBS.
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jfazz Australia. November 02 2009 17:53. Posts 367
Seriously though, I have been waiting forever to see Fedor fight again. I am really interested to see how this fight will go - I hope that it is not too one sided and that Rogers can at least put up a little resistance - though really, compared to the guys Fedor has crushed before, he should offer little, if any resistance.
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Mikilatov United States. November 02 2009 17:56. Posts 1938
So pumped for this event. 4 really big name fights on here. I definitely think it'll be a short night as well, but oh well, I'm still very excited for it. I don't really suspect that Rogers has any sort of real chance, but I suppose if anyone can beat Fedor it's going to be someone who can get a freak KO or rampaging stoppage. I don't think anyone expects it to get out of the first or second minute.
Oh and Strikeforce signed Marius Zaromskis! Hopefully he'll be fighting on the next card. =)
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ColdLava Canada. November 02 2009 18:04. Posts 817
I honestly think the guy that beats Fedor is a guy who gets him on the ground, and keeps him there, without getting caught in submissions. If you look at a lot of his fights i.e. Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, they were able to take him down and get in a good position. If you take that glimmer of hope that Fedor gives out, I think a guy like Brock Lesnar would have a chance against him because, well, wrestlers generally do well vs guys who are versed in Judo.
I just don't think Brett Rogers will even connect with any of his punches. Yea Andrei Arlovski was doing really well vs Fedor until he lost his brains, but 1.) Andrei Arlovski is very very good at pressuring opponents and has really nice clean punches that are very quick, straight, and he has a very strategic stand up game, and 2.) Rogers isn't an Arlovski. I also think if that fight had kept going (i.e. Arlovski doens't do that stupid fucking flying knee) Fedor would have gotten a lot better as the fight went on and started playing a lot more of a clinch game.
Zurles United Kingdom. November 02 2009 19:16. Posts 489
On November 02 2009 18:04 ColdLava wrote: I honestly think the guy that beats Fedor is a guy who gets him on the ground, and keeps him there, without getting caught in submissions. If you look at a lot of his fights i.e. Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, they were able to take him down and get in a good position. If you take that glimmer of hope that Fedor gives out, I think a guy like Brock Lesnar would have a chance against him because, well, wrestlers generally do well vs guys who are versed in Judo.
I just don't think Brett Rogers will even connect with any of his punches. Yea Andrei Arlovski was doing really well vs Fedor until he lost his brains, but 1.) Andrei Arlovski is very very good at pressuring opponents and has really nice clean punches that are very quick, straight, and he has a very strategic stand up game, and 2.) Rogers isn't an Arlovski. I also think if that fight had kept going (i.e. Arlovski doens't do that stupid fucking flying knee) Fedor would have gotten a lot better as the fight went on and started playing a lot more of a clinch game.
Doubt it...
Fedor is mostly likely to lose by knockout imo.
There's no one right now who's strong enough at wrestling and ground and pound, and yet good enough at defending submissions to beat Fedor via takedown and gnp imo, but bigger/stronger fighters including fighters like Brett Rogers have a certain chance to knock him out in stand up.
Obviously he's immune to submissions, so grapplers would also fail against him.
Dr.Lettuce United Kingdom. November 02 2009 20:00. Posts 195
Agreed that Lesnar right now is the biggest challenge for Fedor. The only thing that really worries me about Fedor, is he sometimes likes to give up position on the ground to go for a sub. Against Lesnar, he might not be able to reclaim or manuvere out of a dominant position again. This is what pissed me off so much about Barnett. His strategy against Yvel, was exactly what he needed to do against Fedor.
I'll post a video later of anyone who says Arlovski was beating Fedor in the stand up. This slow-mo video goes over all the punches arlovski threw, showing how only like 1-2 of them actually hit cleanly. You just can't see it unless it's slow mo.
Fedor via sub in the first. Mousasi by what ever the fuck he wants. Shields vs Miller I actually really like, but gotta hand it to my boy shields. Am I the only one who finds it funny that two WW's are fighting for the MW title? (Any news on Hendo jumping ship?)
I used to have Silva as a potential threat to Fedor, technically his attributes give him a reasonably decent chance. I don't see Werdum getting a sub tbh. And see him getting Tko'd late in the second or third.
Brett is still suspect to me. Sure he's got 10 straight wins, and like 9 ko's. But the only win that actually counts is AA. And AA's chin has always been suspect at the best of times. On top of it all, I don't think that win really counts for much either. He ran in and bumrushed AA, who for some stupid reason had his hands low... at HW, pretty much anyone with some boxing has the potential to KO you, if they land clean on the jaw.
Mousasi would be so much better in the UFC, fighting some real competition. There's nothing there for him in strikeforce
Brett just stated that if he touches Fedor's chin he's going to sleep. The only way I see Brett touching his chin is via armbar.
Oh and SF just signed King Mo, nice addition
jfazz Australia. November 02 2009 20:15. Posts 367
orayt fedor back in action. not my favorite fighter but always interesting to watch.
once again we shall all marvel at the emperor's skill and aura of invincibility. honestly i wanna see the guy lose lol (but i bet he'll win by submission). if rogers is going to have any chance he'll be smart to stay away from fedor's ground game.
shields may just be the best welterweight not fighting in the UFC. i expect his winning streak to continue at the expense of mayhem miller.
mousasi has to be imo among the top LHWs atm and has just been on a tear. sokoudjou has a knack for disappearing in fights and i expect the same to happen in this one. mousasi by submission.
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Diamondback2 United States. November 04 2009 03:15. Posts 160
I'm picking Fedor, but god I hope he loses. The guy has the worst nuthuggers in the world, and idk y but I h8 him as a fighter.
That being said Fedor should win by pretty much any way he wants. gl hf Rogers, you will need it.
Gegard Mousasi should destroy soak-a-jew as well. Soak has never impressed me all that much. No doubt he has power in his hands, but he's too green it seems still to be taking on a striker like Mousasi.
I'm taking Shields in the Miller fight, but it's one I'm not feeling 100% on. I just think Shields has slightly better grappling than Miller, which is Jason's strength. I'm really excited for this fight though it should be really exciting.
And Werdum over Silva all day. I'm not a fan of either fighter but Werdum's BJJ is just something else for a HW.
Boblion Andorra. November 04 2009 03:38. Posts 3567
On November 02 2009 18:04 ColdLava wrote: I honestly think the guy that beats Fedor is a guy who gets him on the ground, and keeps him there, without getting caught in submissions. If you look at a lot of his fights i.e. Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, they were able to take him down and get in a good position. If you take that glimmer of hope that Fedor gives out, I think a guy like Brock Lesnar would have a chance against him because, well, wrestlers generally do well vs guys who are versed in Judo.
I just don't think Brett Rogers will even connect with any of his punches. Yea Andrei Arlovski was doing really well vs Fedor until he lost his brains, but 1.) Andrei Arlovski is very very good at pressuring opponents and has really nice clean punches that are very quick, straight, and he has a very strategic stand up game, and 2.) Rogers isn't an Arlovski. I also think if that fight had kept going (i.e. Arlovski doens't do that stupid fucking flying knee) Fedor would have gotten a lot better as the fight went on and started playing a lot more of a clinch game.
Fedor is mostly likely to lose by knockout imo.
Maybe but not vs this kind of opponent :o
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broz0rs United States. November 04 2009 04:21. Posts 434
This really is Fedor's fight to lose. I don't see any area where Rogers really has an advantage besides maybe the strength department (and even this is debatable). I have him winning via sub in the second. Hopefully Fedor doesn't pull a Cro Cop and completely refuse to train in a cage. Cutting people off in a cage is a completely different game.
Not unlike Fedor, Mousasi should be able to dominate in any area that the fight wanders into. His striking, bjj, and conditioning have all looked great as of yet. Mousasi by TKO in the second. Probably by gnp.
Shields vs Mayhem is another great fight. Mayhem seems to have the advantage standing and I think that's where the majority of the fight will take place. If Jacare couldn't submit Mayhem I can't see Shields succeeding in that area. I'm going to have to give this one to Mayhem via decision.
Good card, especially for free tv.
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m really excited for this fight though it should be really exciting.
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