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 Tossim111 United States. November 04 2009 11:01. Posts 10 | Profile |
| Just played an iccup game, and just got ran over... how do you FE and defend against zerg players that burrow next to the other opening with minerals, and unburrow and make the lings hop over the minerals? the main is totally unprotected. No idea what to do T_T |
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 Catch]22 Sweden. November 04 2009 11:07. Posts 280 | Profile |
| one of the cannons in your sim city needs to be placed to protect that spot, makes it kill almost all the lings before he can successfully burrow enough |
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 UGC4 Peru. November 04 2009 11:07. Posts 303 | Profile Blog |
| they usually dont hop the mineral patch at the first try, so perhaps u can scout it and make a cannon in near the patch or in the main. i know it wont get rid of them instantly but it will keep your probes safe, and u would make cannons in your base later on anyway. otherwise just fight with probes...not much u can do about it Last edit: 2009-11-04 11:09:46 |
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 DustBowl United States. November 04 2009 11:14. Posts 42 | Profile Blog |
| There're images on Liquipedia that show how to correctly place your first 2 cannons on Destination (so that burrow rush is defended). I think you still need a probe near the mineral stack to give you vision though. |
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 n.DieJokes United States. November 04 2009 11:24. Posts 742 | Profile Blog |
On November 04 2009 11:07 UGC4 wrote:
they usually dont hop the mineral patch at the first try, so perhaps u can scout it and make a cannon in near the patch or in the main. i know it wont get rid of them instantly but it will keep your probes safe, and u would make cannons in your base later on anyway. otherwise just fight with probes...not much u can do about it
I've never screwed up the ling hop in a dozen or so games...
At OP- You need to scout them while their burrowing cause it takes a while for the zerg player to stack the lings, and then immediately place two cannons at your main. Next pull 4-5 probes and just hold that ramp (in a concave in front of it) and stop the lings from getting in; it doesn't matter if you lose a few off them, you need to stall for your cannons at the main. Once you've done that, his lings should be nullified and the game should be approx equal.
Actually, best way to know if this is coming is to watch the drones on gas, don't assume he just forgot to pull his drones off his gas, if the drones seem to be getting more than 100 gas throw down a nat cannon that covers the ramp as indicated above.
Edit- Cleaned up the wordingLast edit: 2009-11-04 11:53:06 |
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| w3jjjj United States. November 04 2009 14:15. Posts 555 | Profile |
| I fail the ling hop at least half the time, how do you do it correctly? |
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| TimmyMac Canada. November 04 2009 17:05. Posts 128 | Profile |
burrow lings + put one unburrowed to block them from going backwards + hold position that one + unburrow
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 Piste Finland. November 04 2009 17:22. Posts 2643 | Profile Blog |
| have a pylon or something to gain vision. when you see it coming, just insta place cannon in your main. |
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 evanthebouncy! United States. November 05 2009 18:50. Posts 8355 | Profile Blog |
| that actually sounds like a hilarious idea to win haha. I'll try it sometimes... |
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| evanthebouncy! United States. November 05 2009 19:08. Posts 8355 | Profile Blog |
just tested it. It's easier to hop the minral of the bottom base, there's this little crevice between the mineral and the ramp where you can burrow all 12 of your zergling, and when u unburrow, spam click inside his base. I tried it and I had >8 zerglings going through, which is more than a runby.
Perhapse one could consider instead of upgrading speed, upgrade burrow instead...
The hardest part is to lay the zergling all in 1 hole. It is hard because you have to make sure all zergling goes to the same location, and if you right click on a zergling, what will happen is zergling thinks it's going near another ling, making them close, but not on top of each other.
The bottom mineral patch is awesome since there's this little area u can click on reliablely, that all lings will go to same location, making hopping extremely easy.Last edit: 2009-11-05 19:10:02 |
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 [DUF]MethodMan Germany. November 05 2009 19:37. Posts 584 | Profile |
On November 05 2009 19:08 evanthebouncy! wrote:
The hardest part is to lay the zergling all in 1 hole. It is hard because you have to make sure all zergling goes to the same location, and if you right click on a zergling, what will happen is zergling thinks it's going near another ling, making them close, but not on top of each other.
Right-click on a burrowed ling and instantly shift right-click on it. Should do the trick. It also works to click just a little behind the burrowed ling and just before it gets there right-click on the burrowed one. |
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| IceCube Croatia. November 05 2009 19:44. Posts 288 | Profile |
On November 05 2009 18:50 evanthebouncy! wrote:
that actually sounds like a hilarious idea to win haha. I'll try it sometimes...
But pls note that if you fail and you will fail you will lose 100mins and 100gas for burrow and you'll gain yourself later lair, and also when you ling hop not all of your lings will get thru...so you get even less early mineral investment which pays off and lesser ling force in his main.. |
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| evanthebouncy! United States. November 06 2009 12:02. Posts 8355 | Profile Blog |
On November 05 2009 19:37 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
Show nested quote +On November 05 2009 19:08 evanthebouncy! wrote:
The hardest part is to lay the zergling all in 1 hole. It is hard because you have to make sure all zergling goes to the same location, and if you right click on a zergling, what will happen is zergling thinks it's going near another ling, making them close, but not on top of each other.
Right-click on a burrowed ling and instantly shift right-click on it. Should do the trick. It also works to click just a little behind the burrowed ling and just before it gets there right-click on the burrowed one.
AH...!!!
I see |
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| kNyTTyM United States. November 06 2009 12:13. Posts 2941 | Profile Blog |
On November 06 2009 12:02 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Show nested quote +On November 05 2009 19:37 [DUF]MethodMan wrote:
On November 05 2009 19:08 evanthebouncy! wrote:
The hardest part is to lay the zergling all in 1 hole. It is hard because you have to make sure all zergling goes to the same location, and if you right click on a zergling, what will happen is zergling thinks it's going near another ling, making them close, but not on top of each other.
Right-click on a burrowed ling and instantly shift right-click on it. Should do the trick. It also works to click just a little behind the burrowed ling and just before it gets there right-click on the burrowed one.
AH...!!! I see
patrol onto the burrowed ling is easier |
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