Roach Burrow Movement? (Need Korean Translation)

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On November 08 2009 03:20 danl9rm wrote:
zerg just lost its last cool ability

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On November 08 2009 03:20 danl9rm wrote:
zerg just lost one of their hacked ability

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On November 08 2009 05:24 Knee_of_Justice wrote:
Gentlemen, please, it hasn't even been translated yet. Not sure how I feel about this if they did lose burrow movement. Probably a good thing because now the infestor is more unique again. Still, roaches are pretty pathetic, so Im on the fence.

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On November 08 2009 06:16 cerebralz wrote:
If they lost the ability i don't think any of us will miss it. I mean, its not like the roach is meant to be a hit and run type of unit.

We know that from the SC2 devs "it wants to be a tank." Also we know that being at tier 2 or whatever it is right now, it doesn't have the firepower to really help the zerg vs. t or p.

Now inspired from all the "i hate the Thor" threads, what better unit than the roach to have a "rebirth" ability? Say its regeneration continues even after it is killed. Opposing players must continually do damage vs. the regeneration rate to the corpse or after so many seconds, the roach pops back up and continues to regen.

This does a couple of things in big battles, it creates corpse walls which may impede progress of an advancing army. (at least for a few more seconds) It also will draw fire away from retreating/flanking troops. Because the roach is massable, it creates a big decision for the opposing player. Rebirth was bad on the Thor because there only will be a few on the field and the wreckage left behind was quickly dispatched. If you have say, 18 -24roach bodies on the ground all regenerating at 10hp/sec, it will take a good effort to get rid of them before they pop up again, meanwhile the zerg can be flanking you with hydra/ling/lurker or retreating to a more defensible position.

This idea hit me like a ton of bricks reading the OP, maybe too powerful? Idk, but it seems to me that it would be very "zergy" and "roach-like." Also it would give z a reason to make them and mass them.

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On November 08 2009 06:16 cerebralz wrote:
If they lost the ability i don't think any of us will miss it. I mean, its not like the roach is meant to be a hit and run type of unit.

We know that from the SC2 devs "it wants to be a tank." Also we know that being at tier 2 or whatever it is right now, it doesn't have the firepower to really help the zerg vs. t or p.

Now inspired from all the "i hate the Thor" threads, what better unit than the roach to have a "rebirth" ability? Say its regeneration continues even after it is killed. Opposing players must continually do damage vs. the regeneration rate to the corpse or after so many seconds, the roach pops back up and continues to regen.

This does a couple of things in big battles, it creates corpse walls which may impede progress of an advancing army. (at least for a few more seconds) It also will draw fire away from retreating/flanking troops. Because the roach is massable, it creates a big decision for the opposing player. Rebirth was bad on the Thor because there only will be a few on the field and the wreckage left behind was quickly dispatched. If you have say, 18 -24roach bodies on the ground all regenerating at 10hp/sec, it will take a good effort to get rid of them before they pop up again, meanwhile the zerg can be flanking you with hydra/ling/lurker or retreating to a more defensible position.

This idea hit me like a ton of bricks reading the OP, maybe too powerful? Idk, but it seems to me that it would be very "zergy" and "roach-like." Also it would give z a reason to make them and mass them.

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On November 08 2009 07:01 NastyMarine wrote:
Honestly if one zerg has a Burrow Movement ability then they all should have it. I think the each tier should require it to be upgraded from their respective Hive/Lair/Hatchery parent buildings. It should be available early enough to be a viable strategy though. We all know that each race's mobility has expanded in SC2 and that goes with detection too. It might be too much asking for that where balancing is concerned but it just seems like a break in the lore as far as Burrowing goes. If they all Burrow, why can't they build trenches like the Roach?

If Blizzard was looking for an interesting addition for the Zerg's mobility I think they should give Zerglings a scaling ability like the Reaper's. Maybe having to do with the Zerglings' early Winged model. So as a speed upgrade they attain those wings and the ability to "fly" over cliffs. It would seem smart to make it available only after the Hive has been upgraded. But that may be a tough thing to balance.

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On November 08 2009 07:01 NastyMarine wrote:
Honestly if one zerg has a Burrow Movement ability then they all should have it. I think the each tier should require it to be upgraded from their respective Hive/Lair/Hatchery parent buildings. It should be available early enough to be a viable strategy though. We all know that each race's mobility has expanded in SC2 and that goes with detection too. It might be too much asking for that where balancing is concerned but it just seems like a break in the lore as far as Burrowing goes. If they all Burrow, why can't they build trenches like the Roach?

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