 NeverTheEndlessWiz Singapore. November 08 2009 15:25. Posts 820 | Profile |
Just a quick question :
I noticed there doesn't seem to be 3rd place MSLs placing when else OSLs does. Is there any particular significance in this? |
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| Dgtl Canada. November 08 2009 15:28. Posts 653 | Profile Blog |
| MSL isn't as important so they don't feel they need a third place while OSL is fairly important. I think. |
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 yhnmk Canada. November 08 2009 15:30. Posts 92 | Profile |
| KPGA use to have third place, but for some reason MSL never did. Then again, OSL has essentially dropped third place as well, presumably because of a lack of interest. Likely the reason MSL never bothered when it officially became the MSL. |
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 meeple Canada. November 08 2009 15:34. Posts 1519 | Profile Blog |
| Lack of interest I would guess... they really should bring it back though. These days a 3rd place in an MSL is nothing to sneeze at. |
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| Nick_54 United States. November 08 2009 15:39. Posts 970 | Profile Blog |
| Neither of them have a third place anymore. OSL used to seed its top 3 finishers, wheres MSL would just seed the top 8. This is at least the way its been since I got into professional broodwar (about 3 years). |
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 FabledIntegral United States. November 08 2009 15:40. Posts 791 | Profile Blog |
On November 08 2009 15:28 Dgtl wrote:
MSL isn't as important so they don't feel they need a third place while OSL is fairly important. I think.
What? MSL *tries* to be just as important as the OSL. And succeeds on a lot of levels at being an equal contender. I believe they are operated from rival companies (MBC vs OGN). So this definitely isn't a reason. |
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 Plexa New Zealand. November 08 2009 15:44. Posts 16234 | Profile Blog |
what? Misinformation running rampant =[
Okay, so the MSL used to have a double elim system - and in those cases the MSL had a third place (the loser of the loser bracket final). The top 4 finishers were always seeded iirc.
e.g. Uzoo MSL, YATGK MSL etc
Then after the double elim system MSL moved to a single elim system (sometime around pringles iirc) and they decided that they would seed the top 4 as they did last time - which meant that the two semifinalists who lost would get seeded in. Seeing no need to differentiate them, they didn't have a 3rd place match. When they changed their format again (oh, about arena MSL?) to seed the top 8, there was still no reason to have a 3rd/4th match.
Now in the OSL, up until recently (i think bacchus 08) they had a third place match to determine who would get the 3rd seed. The 4th seed was decided through a tournament of the OSC 2-0 winners and the loser of the 3rd/4th match. Hence there was importance for that match - hence why they had 3rd place finishers.
Nowadays, theres no need for a 3rd/4th since the top 4 are seeded so like the MSL theres no need to have a 3rd/4thLast edit: 2009-11-08 15:45:32 |
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| meeple Canada. November 08 2009 15:50. Posts 1519 | Profile Blog |
| lol thanks Plexa for clearing it up |
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| NeverTheEndlessWiz Singapore. November 08 2009 15:52. Posts 820 | Profile |
| Ah thats what I suspected of.... Thanks Plexa. |
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 Doso Germany. November 08 2009 15:58. Posts 327 | Profile |
| Isn't MSL dead anyways? :\ |
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| TheAntZ Bangladesh. November 08 2009 19:54. Posts 597 | Profile Blog |
| Thanks for the informative post Plexa <3 |
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 GTR . November 08 2009 19:58. Posts 22406 | Profile Blog |
On November 08 2009 15:44 Plexa wrote:
Then after the double elim system MSL moved to a single elim system (sometime around pringles iirc) and they decided that they would seed the top 4 as they did last time - which meant that the two semifinalists who lost would get seeded in. Seeing no need to differentiate them, they didn't have a 3rd place match. When they changed their format again (oh, about arena MSL?) to seed the top 8, there was still no reason to have a 3rd/4th match.
lol you are like four seasons ahead =[
gom s2 was when they changed to ro32.
and NO MSL IS NOT DEAD.
i don't know where everyone is getting that interpretation from. |
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