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| Hinanawi United States. January 29 2010 08:22. Posts 2250 | Profile Blog # |
On January 29 2010 07:54 Little-Chimp wrote:
lol one of those games flash cheesed and the other jaedong was raping flash then was a dumbass and forgot consume. He still beat flash where it counted, the msl finals.
Flash lost the game he cheesed, so I don't see what that has to do with your argument.
He won with an awesome dropship play in one game, and you don't know how the other recent WL game would have ended if JD hadn't forgotten consume, Flash still could have won. Just like you don't know if Flash would have 7raxed in MSL Game 4 if not for his team and parents going berserk. We just don't know.
At the end of the day, they're (Flash)4-3(Jaedong) in recent games, Flash won OSL, Jaedong won MSL. Neither is 'raping' the other, you're a fool if you think they are.
Think of it this way: Everyone on TL gets one betting ticket that they can place on Flash or Jaedong for a game they're playing tomorrow. If their guy wins, they get $10,000. If their guy loses, they get nothing. This is enough money so that people should bet on who they truly think would win, and not just their personal favorite.
Don't you think it would be a pretty close spread of who gets bet on? I think it would be pretty close to 50:50 in terms of who gets bet on. |
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| TwoToneTerran United States. January 29 2010 08:25. Posts 7991 | Profile # |
On January 29 2010 07:54 Little-Chimp wrote:
lol one of those games flash cheesed and the other jaedong was raping flash then was a dumbass and forgot consume. He still beat flash where it counted, the msl finals.
ALL OF JAEDONG'S WINS ARE AWESOME AND FLASH'S ARE STUPID AND DON'T COUNT
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| L0thar January 29 2010 08:28. Posts 986 | Profile Blog # |
On January 29 2010 07:54 Little-Chimp wrote:
lol one of those games flash cheesed and the other jaedong was raping flash then was a dumbass and forgot consume. He still beat flash where it counted, the msl finals.
lol no
OSL games - Flash raped Jaedong two times. Seriously, those games weren't even close. Flash there ultimately demonstrated that he is the superior player and will be forever and ever and even some time after that.
MSL games - In the first Flash was a dumbass and forgot turrets, had he make some, he would easily won. In the second he raped JD again. In the third, he has the decisive advantage so the bribed MBC cut down the eletricity and bribed KESPA give the win to JD. In game four, Flash again outplayed Jaedong, but made some mistake...I'm not sure which, but that's not important, important thing is, Flash would have won if he didn't do it!
KT vs OZ ace game - Flash managed to outplay JD and win despite being in big BO disadvantage and having some bad luck (irradiating almost dead muta).
All that also happened on terribly Z>>T maps, don't let the stats fool you! |
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| NovaTheFeared United States. January 29 2010 08:45. Posts 5911 | Profile Blog # |
| Flash is still number one, but Jaedong closed the gap considerably from last month when Flash looked like he was going to pull away with two titles and become the new bonjwa. |
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| Little-Chimp Canada. January 29 2010 09:03. Posts 463 | Profile # |
Okay maybe I was a little biased.
On January 29 2010 08:22 Hinanawi wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 29 2010 07:54 Little-Chimp wrote:
lol one of those games flash cheesed and the other jaedong was raping flash then was a dumbass and forgot consume. He still beat flash where it counted, the msl finals.
Flash lost the game he cheesed, so I don't see what that has to do with your argument. He won with an awesome dropship play in one game, and you don't know how the other recent WL game would have ended if JD hadn't forgotten consume, Flash still could have won. Just like you don't know if Flash would have 7raxed in MSL Game 4 if not for his team and parents going berserk. We just don't know. At the end of the day, they're (Flash)4-3(Jaedong) in recent games, Flash won OSL, Jaedong won MSL. Neither is 'raping' the other, you're a fool if you think they are. Think of it this way: Everyone on TL gets one betting ticket that they can place on Flash or Jaedong for a game they're playing tomorrow. If their guy wins, they get $10,000. If their guy loses, they get nothing. This is enough money so that people should bet on who they truly think would win, and not just their personal favorite. Don't you think it would be a pretty close spread of who gets bet on? I think it would be pretty close to 50:50 in terms of who gets bet on.
I meant game 2 of the OSL bo3, the bunker rush on heartbreak ridge.
I just think you guys are really underplaying a Bo5 in the finals of a starleague.
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| Demand2k Norway. January 29 2010 09:19. Posts 546 | Profile Blog # | |
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| Holgerius Sweden. January 29 2010 09:25. Posts 16831 | Profile Blog # |
| Jaedong has indeed closed the gap and showed us that he is just as good as Flash. Flash should still be No 1 though due to a better overall season. |
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| TwoToneTerran United States. January 29 2010 09:32. Posts 7991 | Profile # |
You're kind of underplaying the fact that the series was in shitty conditions with a damn power outage in the third game. Flash has a winning record against Jaedong this season, they've both beat each other in starleagues -- not without controversy -- and their skill difference is so miniscule that slight mistakes mean one sided games that appear to be rape.
Neither is a lot better than the other. Hell, I doubt either is better than the other at all, it's almost entirely situation.
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| LxRogue United States. January 29 2010 10:58. Posts 1402 | Profile Blog # |
On January 29 2010 08:28 adelarge wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 29 2010 07:54 Little-Chimp wrote:
lol one of those games flash cheesed and the other jaedong was raping flash then was a dumbass and forgot consume. He still beat flash where it counted, the msl finals.
lol no OSL games - Flash raped Jaedong two times. Seriously, those games weren't even close. Flash there ultimately demonstrated that he is the superior player and will be forever and ever and even some time after that. MSL games - In the first Flash was a dumbass and forgot turrets, had he make some, he would easily won. In the second he raped JD again. In the third, he has the decisive advantage so the bribed MBC cut down the eletricity and bribed KESPA give the win to JD. In game four, Flash again outplayed Jaedong, but made some mistake...I'm not sure which, but that's not important, important thing is, Flash would have won if he didn't do it! KT vs OZ ace game - Flash managed to outplay JD and win despite being in big BO disadvantage and having some bad luck (irradiating almost dead muta). All that also happened on terribly Z>>T maps, don't let the stats fool you!
Worst troll ever?
Flash got outplayed in the MSL. Get over yourself. JD has always had Flash's number in Bo5's and in longer, more standard games. Yes the decision was unfair to Flash, but that doesn't change the fact that JD came in more prepared.
I'm a JD fan, but get real. I do see logic in keeping Flash at no. 1 because of an OSL gold, an MSL silver, and his continued domination of everyone who isn't Jaedong. |
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| Mora Canada. January 29 2010 11:04. Posts 5192 | Profile Blog # |
On January 04 2010 06:19 JWD wrote:
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| Ideas United States. January 29 2010 11:50. Posts 7471 | Profile Blog # |
JD is the best player in the world right now and should be #1.
but like so many other PRs he's going to have to settle for #2 because some other player has gotten more wins in the month. JD has way too few PR #1s for his career. |
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| L0thar January 29 2010 12:07. Posts 986 | Profile Blog # |
On January 29 2010 10:58 LxRogue wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 29 2010 08:28 adelarge wrote:
On January 29 2010 07:54 Little-Chimp wrote:
lol one of those games flash cheesed and the other jaedong was raping flash then was a dumbass and forgot consume. He still beat flash where it counted, the msl finals.
lol no OSL games - Flash raped Jaedong two times. Seriously, those games weren't even close. Flash there ultimately demonstrated that he is the superior player and will be forever and ever and even some time after that. MSL games - In the first Flash was a dumbass and forgot turrets, had he make some, he would easily won. In the second he raped JD again. In the third, he has the decisive advantage so the bribed MBC cut down the eletricity and bribed KESPA give the win to JD. In game four, Flash again outplayed Jaedong, but made some mistake...I'm not sure which, but that's not important, important thing is, Flash would have won if he didn't do it! KT vs OZ ace game - Flash managed to outplay JD and win despite being in big BO disadvantage and having some bad luck (irradiating almost dead muta). All that also happened on terribly Z>>T maps, don't let the stats fool you!
Worst troll ever? Flash got outplayed in the MSL. Get over yourself. JD has always had Flash's number in Bo5's and in longer, more standard games. Yes the decision was unfair to Flash, but that doesn't change the fact that JD came in more prepared. I'm a JD fan, but get real. I do see logic in keeping Flash at no. 1 because of an OSL gold, an MSL silver, and his continued domination of everyone who isn't Jaedong.
You think this is trolling? It was just a very timid attempt to mirror hundreds and hundreds of post from the less rational and objective part of JD fanbase. These guys are much better when it comes to inventing excuses why JD lost and why he is still the best player ever. Nothing against JD himself or the majority of his fanbase, there are some really lovable people. They are just not so vocal usually.
If you are interested in my real opinion, I stated it here couple of days before and I still stand by it.
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On January 25 2010 20:57 adelarge wrote:
Wow...just wow. I can't believe some people are able to draw conclussion that JD > Flash based solely on the fucked up 3:1 MSL Final (fucked up becase of game 4, I actually believe JD was going to win game 3 anyway).
If something, it along with the 0:2 OSL game showed us how incredibely close these two are and how stupid is calling one of them better than the other right now.
And it that case, for powerranking needs, Flash should be nr. 1 because he DID accomplish more than JD this month.
Next month, with lots of games played in WL, it can be a totally different story.
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| WWJDD India. January 29 2010 12:17. Posts 342 | Profile Blog # |
On January 28 2010 23:06 Jaksiel wrote:
I'm pretty sure GuemChi should be rank #1 next month, with everyone else in a distant #2-10.
Let's make a deal.
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| WWJDD India. January 29 2010 12:21. Posts 342 | Profile Blog # |
On January 29 2010 12:07 adelarge wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 29 2010 10:58 LxRogue wrote:
On January 29 2010 08:28 adelarge wrote:
On January 29 2010 07:54 Little-Chimp wrote:
lol one of those games flash cheesed and the other jaedong was raping flash then was a dumbass and forgot consume. He still beat flash where it counted, the msl finals.
lol no OSL games - Flash raped Jaedong two times. Seriously, those games weren't even close. Flash there ultimately demonstrated that he is the superior player and will be forever and ever and even some time after that. MSL games - In the first Flash was a dumbass and forgot turrets, had he make some, he would easily won. In the second he raped JD again. In the third, he has the decisive advantage so the bribed MBC cut down the eletricity and bribed KESPA give the win to JD. In game four, Flash again outplayed Jaedong, but made some mistake...I'm not sure which, but that's not important, important thing is, Flash would have won if he didn't do it! KT vs OZ ace game - Flash managed to outplay JD and win despite being in big BO disadvantage and having some bad luck (irradiating almost dead muta). All that also happened on terribly Z>>T maps, don't let the stats fool you!
Worst troll ever? Flash got outplayed in the MSL. Get over yourself. JD has always had Flash's number in Bo5's and in longer, more standard games. Yes the decision was unfair to Flash, but that doesn't change the fact that JD came in more prepared. I'm a JD fan, but get real. I do see logic in keeping Flash at no. 1 because of an OSL gold, an MSL silver, and his continued domination of everyone who isn't Jaedong.
You think this is trolling? It was just a very timid attempt to mirror hundreds and hundreds of post from the less rational and objective part of JD fanbase. These guys are much better when it comes to inventing excuses why JD lost and why he is still the best player ever. Nothing against JD himself or the majority of his fanbase, there are some really lovable people. They are just not so vocal usually. If you are interested in my real opinion, I stated it here couple of days before and I still stand by it. + Show Spoiler +
On January 25 2010 20:57 adelarge wrote:
Wow...just wow. I can't believe some people are able to draw conclussion that JD > Flash based solely on the fucked up 3:1 MSL Final (fucked up becase of game 4, I actually believe JD was going to win game 3 anyway).
If something, it along with the 0:2 OSL game showed us how incredibely close these two are and how stupid is calling one of them better than the other right now.
And it that case, for powerranking needs, Flash should be nr. 1 because he DID accomplish more than JD this month.
Next month, with lots of games played in WL, it can be a totally different story.
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| DoctorHelvetica United States. January 29 2010 12:31. Posts 13955 | Profile Blog # |
| There isn't a doubt in my mind that Flash is better than Jaedong. |
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| nodule Canada. January 29 2010 13:09. Posts 931 | Profile # |
It counts when the game knocks you out of the OSL too
EDIT: this is in response to saying Jaedong beat Flash when it countsLast edit: 2010-01-29 13:10:44 |
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| LucasWoJ United States. January 29 2010 13:53. Posts 915 | Profile Blog # |
On January 26 2010 22:05 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 21:14 LucasWoJ wrote:
On January 26 2010 21:01 Vasoline73 wrote:In before "he forgot consume doesnt count!" 
This is true, but then Flash fans need to stop with the stupd "he just made a mistake and lost" arguments for MSL Game 1.
You know what, I've read through most of those MSL threads, and I don't remember seeing this one more than once. Saw a few dozen, "Damn, Jaedong would've dominated Flash 3-0 if not for those guardians" though.
Oh yeah, there are a ton of them. For example:
On January 29 2010 08:28 adelarge wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 29 2010 07:54 Little-Chimp wrote:
lol one of those games flash cheesed and the other jaedong was raping flash then was a dumbass and forgot consume. He still beat flash where it counted, the msl finals.
lol no OSL games - Flash raped Jaedong two times. Seriously, those games weren't even close. Flash there ultimately demonstrated that he is the superior player and will be forever and ever and even some time after that. MSL games - In the first Flash was a dumbass and forgot turrets, had he make some, he would easily won. In the second he raped JD again. In the third, he has the decisive advantage so the bribed MBC cut down the eletricity and bribed KESPA give the win to JD. In game four, Flash again outplayed Jaedong, but made some mistake...I'm not sure which, but that's not important, important thing is, Flash would have won if he didn't do it! KT vs OZ ace game - Flash managed to outplay JD and win despite being in big BO disadvantage and having some bad luck (irradiating almost dead muta). All that also happened on terribly Z>>T maps, don't let the stats fool you!
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| Bwenjarin Raffrack United States. January 29 2010 14:24. Posts 300 | Profile # |
On January 29 2010 13:53 LucasWoJ wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 26 2010 22:05 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote:
On January 26 2010 21:14 LucasWoJ wrote:
On January 26 2010 21:01 Vasoline73 wrote:In before "he forgot consume doesnt count!"
This is true, but then Flash fans need to stop with the stupd "he just made a mistake and lost" arguments for MSL Game 1.
You know what, I've read through most of those MSL threads, and I don't remember seeing this one more than once. Saw a few dozen, "Damn, Jaedong would've dominated Flash 3-0 if not for those guardians" though.
Oh yeah, there are a ton of them. For example:
Show nested quote +On January 29 2010 08:28 adelarge wrote:
On January 29 2010 07:54 Little-Chimp wrote:
lol one of those games flash cheesed and the other jaedong was raping flash then was a dumbass and forgot consume. He still beat flash where it counted, the msl finals.
lol no OSL games - Flash raped Jaedong two times. Seriously, those games weren't even close. Flash there ultimately demonstrated that he is the superior player and will be forever and ever and even some time after that. MSL games - In the first Flash was a dumbass and forgot turrets, had he make some, he would easily won. In the second he raped JD again. In the third, he has the decisive advantage so the bribed MBC cut down the eletricity and bribed KESPA give the win to JD. In game four, Flash again outplayed Jaedong, but made some mistake...I'm not sure which, but that's not important, important thing is, Flash would have won if he didn't do it! KT vs OZ ace game - Flash managed to outplay JD and win despite being in big BO disadvantage and having some bad luck (irradiating almost dead muta). All that also happened on terribly Z>>T maps, don't let the stats fool you!
Was that quote intended to be disproof of my statement? Choosing to quote something that is obviously sardonic (as the author even explains five posts before yours) and that was also posted three days after mine struck you as the most scathing rebuttal you could find? I'm sure you can do better than that, but then again, I'm uncertain if you were being serious. Not to mention it completely misses the point of my post...
Edit: Back on topic. Next month's Power Rank is going to be really difficult aside from the top 3 spots. GuemChi, Flash, and Jaedong are all a lock, but most everybody else has been under-performing. Last edit: 2010-01-29 14:37:37 |
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| raga4ka Bulgaria. January 29 2010 17:09. Posts 5042 | Profile # |
I would like to point out that Flash deserves to be #1 because he has been more dominant in the leagues . Skill wise both Jaedong and Flash are on the same level as the MSL showed . You shouldn't really take away from Jaedong's win in game 3 and 4 . Kespa made the right decision Jaedong was ahead 2 bases and Flash was mining out in his natural even Artosis pointed out that Flash wasn't going to make a comeback at that point not against a player of Jaedongs caliber when you are that behind .Game 4 should actually be punishing away more Flash then Jaedong because Flash choked after they gave the win to Jaedong . Here everyone is like Jaedong doesn't deserve his title or his title is not legit which is complete bullshit . Flash didn't have the mentality to overcome the loss in game 3 why did he deserve to win the title ? and it's not like Jaedong wasn't ahead even if Kespa kinda fucked up and lied to Flash that they have replays ? Flash didn't deserve to win because he choked after a decision that he should have expected .
And also people shouldn't jump quick on the Guemchi bandwagon i don't think he deserves more then #10 maybe 9 place if he deserves a place at all , because there are lot a people who have played brilliantly in PL the whole month .Last edit: 2010-01-29 17:13:41 |
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 InFdude Bulgaria. January 29 2010 17:29. Posts 602 | Profile Blog # |
| Skill wise Jaedong is way better .But let flash have next month he won in WL . His dominance is comming to an end . If you look at the time line flash went from unbeatable to some times loosing a game (some random flukes ) .At the finals many people said he'd 3/0 Jaedong and atm it's like ''they are on the same lvl '' .After 1 month when all the terrans pick up the macro like crazy style he'll just be one of the many . Let him enjoy his 5 minutes of fame. |
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