| GinDo June 01 2012 01:37. Posts 2927 | Profile Blog # |
| He R1ch, Is their any other AV that you recommend? MSE is great because it is light, but the Full Scan takes for ever. Mine has been running for 6 hours and it doesn't even look 10% done. Is this normal? |
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| jpak United States. June 01 2012 01:52. Posts 3648 | Profile Blog # |
On June 01 2012 01:37 GinDo wrote:
He R1ch, Is their any other AV that you recommend? MSE is great because it is light, but the Full Scan takes for ever. Mine has been running for 6 hours and it doesn't even look 10% done. Is this normal?
Quick scan should be good enough to get most viruses. I only worry about a full scan when a quick scan detects something. Then I rin a full scan on malwarebytes.
Works for me. |
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| GinDo June 01 2012 02:11. Posts 2927 | Profile Blog # |
On June 01 2012 01:52 jpak wrote:
Show nested quote +On June 01 2012 01:37 GinDo wrote:
He R1ch, Is their any other AV that you recommend? MSE is great because it is light, but the Full Scan takes for ever. Mine has been running for 6 hours and it doesn't even look 10% done. Is this normal?
Quick scan should be good enough to get most viruses. I only worry about a full scan when a quick scan detects something. Then I rin a full scan on malwarebytes. Works for me.
Thanks for the tip. You wouldn't happen to know why it is so slow compared to other AV's? |
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| EdenPLusDucky Singapore. June 01 2012 02:58. Posts 566 | Profile Blog # |
| It isn't. You probably have a damaged file that it can't stop scanning. |
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| GinDo June 01 2012 03:13. Posts 2927 | Profile Blog # |
On June 01 2012 02:58 EdenPLusDucky wrote:
It isn't. You probably have a damaged file that it can't stop scanning.
No it's not stuck. I think I would have noticed  |
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| EdenPLusDucky Singapore. June 01 2012 03:23. Posts 566 | Profile Blog # |
| then you have a really large hard drive or a really bad processor |
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| GinDo June 01 2012 04:47. Posts 2927 | Profile Blog # |
On June 01 2012 03:23 EdenPLusDucky wrote:
then you have a really large hard drive or a really bad processor
500gb Hardrive
About 250gb used.
Intel i5 430M
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| Shagg Finland. June 07 2012 01:08. Posts 824 | Profile # | |
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| cari-kira Germany. December 02 2012 03:33. Posts 632 | Profile # |
while i dont share your view of antivirus (i think its mandatory, because its preventing 99% of the infections you could get. ever had a friend to visit who brought his usb-stick with him to copy over a file for university? how wold your measures prevent the virus it contains in his autorun.inf from executing?), the other points are spot on (you could of course argue about the firewall, because there are trojans that collect data and send it to prepared servers, and the windows firewall does not block outgoing connections. ever torrented a game to try it? how do you know that the cracked executeable does not connect to the internet, sending your serials/logins to a nice database for later use?)
having coded some "client-server applications" myself, some detected, some not, i know many anti-virus programs report executables as malicious when they inject the winsock in a special way, but hey, i'd rather manual whitelist some programs than getting a virus that perhaps screws all my data and my operating system, steals my accounts and passwords or/and does illegal things i could be held responsible for in the worst case.
of course AV does not protect from a freshly written virus that spreads just some days, and of course they have false positives, but if this prevents your system from being compromised by the 99% of old trojans/virae that are still around, its totally worth it.
not everyone has the knowledge to use his computer all the time in a way that prevents all sorts of infections, and noone should claim to be able to. reality is a bitch sometimes.
so i would suggest everyone to use AV _always_.
there really is no disadvantage, only a big advantage.
its funny that some really experienced pc users dont like AV, you are not the only one. i had the same problem with desktop firewalls, saying NAT + windows firewall would be sufficient. but its not in some situations.
i think the dislike of AV and desktop firewalls comes from people with great knowledge being bugged by some people getting paranoid, because they have AV and a desktop firewall (sometimes even 2 desktop firewalls because they feel its safer^^) without being able to understand what they are doing ("hey, i blocked this suspicious program using port 139, but i think it was too late, because my internet was gone shortly after, so i reinstalled windows."), and so these experienced people want to take a stance against this paranoia.
but: this does not justify to advise against AV/desktop firewall in general in my eyes as an easy way out. it just means you have to explain the people how to use it.
ps: i am responsible for some customer networks with 50+ client pcs for many years now, administrating both client and servers with the users being administrators on most of their PCs (because most customers want it this way.
and if they want it this way, they get it, period. no arguing with a customer, if you want to earn money.)
without antivirus these computers would be down or infected most of the times. i often get calls from people "my antivirus popped up that theres a file containing a virus on my pc, what should i do?" usually an email, an usb stick or a website.
never had any infections the last 10 years thanks to antivirus.
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 Belial88 United States. December 02 2012 04:20. Posts 5217 | Profile Blog # |
Last time I was in here I got:
Malwarebytes
WSE
Peerblock
Use windows firewall
for my security. Peerblock hasn't been updated in forever though, is it still useful? I think they still update the lists though, but the website looks pretty dead.
Is WSE still the best and lightest AV? I recall it was WSE vs Avast for best free, lightweight, AV 2 years ago.Last edit: 2012-12-02 04:20:40 |
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 R1CH Administrator December 02 2012 04:22. | Profile Blog # |
On December 02 2012 03:33 cari-kira wrote:
while i dont share your view of antivirus (i think its mandatory, because its preventing 99% of the infections you could get. ever had a friend to visit who brought his usb-stick with him to copy over a file for university? how wold your measures prevent the virus it contains in his autorun.inf from executing?),
Pretty sure autorun has never run without user interaction since XP? |
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| phar United States. December 02 2012 12:16. Posts 573 | Profile # |
On December 02 2012 03:33 cari-kira wrote:ps: i am responsible for some customer networks with 50+ client pcs for many years now, administrating both client and servers with the users being administrators on most of their PCs (because most customers want it this way.
and if they want it this way, they get it, period. no arguing with a customer, if you want to earn money.)
without antivirus these computers would be down or infected most of the times. i often get calls from people "my antivirus popped up that theres a file containing a virus on my pc, what should i do?" usually an email, an usb stick or a website.
never had any infections the last 10 years thanks to antivirus.
The requirements when managing dozens of computers used by other people are going to be completely different than the requirements of a single person using their own computer.
AV can be very good at reducing the number of infections you'll see in a population of dozens of idiots clicking on random shit whenever possible. |
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| ghindo United States. December 03 2012 09:51. Posts 53 | Profile # |
| Thanks for the guide R1CH, never heard of DEP before. |
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| MysteryMeat1 United States. December 30 2012 12:02. Posts 1227 | Profile Blog # |
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| R1CH Administrator January 26 2013 11:29. | Profile Blog # |
| Updated the OP with some new advice regarding plugins (especially Java / Flash) and another AV recommendation. |
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| semantics January 26 2013 12:54. Posts 8561 | Profile Blog # |
Opera's plugins can be reached by typingopera:plugins into your address bar.
And for IE it's just smart to by default use ActiveX Filtering for websites, which can be access under safety in the commands bar. Mostly you become surprised how many sites actually support HTML5 video and you don't even need flash.Last edit: 2013-01-26 12:55:12 |
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| phar United States. January 26 2013 14:11. Posts 573 | Profile # |
You have to [code] block opera:plugins because :p renders as on the forum.
Also for chrome the // is unnecessary, you can just do chrome:plugins just like opera.Last edit: 2013-01-26 14:11:39 |
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| Mithriel Netherlands. January 31 2013 02:08. Posts 2857 | Profile # |
| Is EMET needed for windows 8 too? Ive went to the Windows website but under requirements it does not mention Windows 8. |
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| FromShouri United States. January 31 2013 03:20. Posts 414 | Profile Blog # |
On January 31 2013 02:08 Mithriel wrote:
Is EMET needed for windows 8 too? Ive went to the Windows website but under requirements it does not mention Windows 8.
Usually just means they havent made a version for 8 yet but you can use the 7 version till then if you get the right executable(32 vs 64) |
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