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[TSL] Idra vs Nony Results and Interview

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[TSL] Idra vs Nony Results and Interview
January 10th, 2010 06:09 | TSL
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Results

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(P)(us)NonY< Outsider >(T)(us)IdrA
(P)(us)NonY< Andromeda >(T)(us)IdrA
(P)(us)NonY< Destination >(T)(us)IdrA
(P)(us)NonY< New Tornado>(T)(us)IdrA
 
(P)(us)Liquid`NonY1 - 3(T)(us)IdrA[Media]


(T)(us)IdrA[Media] advances to the PokerStrategy.com TSL Ro16


Battle Reports
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A Day To Remember


(P)(us)NonY 0 - 0 (T)(us)IdrA

The two players met up on iCCup a few minutes early, eager to do battle. Both had high hopes for the day and came prepared to bring their A game. After a quick 5-4-3-2-1, we began a game that was...

Outside Of The Ordinary


IdrA landed his Command Center at the 9 o'clock, planning to swiftly demonstrate to his Protoss foe just what plans he had been developing in Korea. NonY brazenly responded by warping in his own Nexus, and the war was started! The game began quietly enough, with a one Factory expansion going up for IdrA versus NonY's 1 Gateway Robotics Facility → expand opening. IdrA's knowledge of this map showed with his SCV hopping tactics: first, he sent two SCVs north of his base. He then hopped one over, and began a Depot with it on NonY's part of the minerals, allowing him to sneak a scout into his base.

All was not well for the Protoss, however, as IdrA confidently responded to what he saw of the Protoss base by going for a quick second Factory and pushing out with 2 Vultures, 3 SCVs, 3 Tanks, 3 Marines–clearly a believer in the rule of threes. NonY's quick shuttle and 3rd expansion meant he did not have enough to stave off the attack, and he ended up losing his natural. After his attempted counterattack on IdrA with his Reaver failed to do much damage, he was significantly behind.

NonY kept pumping Shuttles at this point, along with Dragoons and Zealots, while taking both of his side expansions: his natural inaccessible due to IdrA's continued contain. IdrA easily took a third of his own, and NonY found himself having to try to do damage with a several-shuttle fleet or else be overrun.

IdrA defended admirably, and continued to pour on his own harassment. Eventually, NonY went for Carriers, and although he did break the contain, he was unable to fight IdrA's actual army and got overrun by the Terran mechanical juggernaut before building up a sufficiently large Carrier fleet of doom.

(P)(us)NonY 0 - 1 (T)(us)IdrA

After the game, the two exchanged a few comments about it. NonY lamented the fact that he had lacked the vespene to pull off what he had wanted to do. IdrA's response was that "G5 units" don't need gas anyway, referring to the mass army of Dragoons and Zealots ferried around by Shuttles.

After receiving a walloping blow in the first game, NonY definitely wanted some revenge–and what better a map on which to get it than Andromeda, foe of Terran commandants everywhere?

The Andromeda Storm


NonY started this game off with a 13 Nexus at the 7, and looked to overwhelm IdrA with the ferocity of a well-macroed force from Aiur. IdrA also quickly expanded twice off one Factory up at the 1, and the set was stage for a long macro based game between two diagonally situated players.

NonY made the first strike, first briefly attempting to break IdrA with a Shuttle with Zealots accompanying some Dragoons, but then settling to killing a few SCVs with Shuttle + Zealot harass, all while taking his fourth. IdrA prevented the attack and harass from doing much damage, and then set out to kill NonY's fourth with 15 Tanks and some Vultures.

The two combatants met in the middle, NonY up about 60 supply (170-120). NonY had come ready for a fist fight, and he wasn't backing down. His units joyfully clashed with the Terran combine, and chaos ensued as Dragoons collapsed, Zealots evaporated, and Tanks exploded. NonY managed to land some powerful storms with a few High Templar in a Shuttle, but eventually IdrA came out on top, and NonY was forced to fall back licking his wounds.

Running on 11 Gateways to IdrA's 8 Factories, NonY rebuilt his forces while attempting to stall the push and keep his fourth alive. They both continually rallied their forces towards the center and collided again and again. IdrA barely managed to kill the Protoss fourth Nexus, but the enraged Protoss army then killed the Terran attack definitively.

Although his attack had been stopped, IdrA had now taken a fourth and was looking strong at over 170 supply. At even supplies, the two met outside IdrA's fourth, but this time the Protoss flung themselves forward with even greater abandon. Storms crackled, and the entire screen was awash with lightning, explosions, and blue goo as NonY channeled the spirit of Reach himself and came gloriously pouring over the Terran army. When the air was silent once more, the Protoss found themselves victorious over the Terrans.

With the Terran fourth frantically evacuated, IdrA managed to hold on a few more minutes before eventually trying to come out again but getting overwhelmed by the Protoss numbers. IdrA characteristically silently left, and the players stood even once more.

(P)(us)NonY 1 - 1 (T)(us)IdrA

Before the next game began, IdrA asked NonY: did he feel guilty about playing like that on Andromeda? NonY merely expressed his love of the map, and next game was on!

Destination: Victory


IdrA began this game at the 6 by getting offensive gased. Executor NonY was not content to win merely by creating huge forces on Andromeda, but also intended to demonstrate his skill at guile and tricks. A Command Center went down before the Refinery in response, and the Terran looked to a lone Bunker at his choke to defend himself.

NonY followed up by expanding and hitting the Bunker from out of range with Dragoons. IdrA eventually forced him back, but the Protoss were not macroing and not expanding. Instead, two Stargates had already completed, and a Fleet Beacon was being warped in for Carriers!

With a four factory build before his third, the Commander was well set to respond, and he quickly set out to prevent the Protoss from getting a dangerous number of Carriers. The two forces met outside the Protoss' natural bridge. NonY's two Carriers, 9 Dragoons, and a few Zealots were unable to fight the 6 Tanks supported by a similar number of Goliaths and a few Marines.

After winning the battle, IdrA went forward and killed the Nexus with the long arm of a few Siege tanks, but then pulled back. Now on 3 bases to 1, he was content to build up for a bit rather than try to push it and risk letting NonY back into the game.

For a few minutes, NonY managed to struggle on, but his build had been pretty directly countered by what IdrA did, and he was unable to ever establish a good position this game.

(P)(us)NonY 1 - 2 (T)(us)IdrA

The players were silent after this game; IdrA had weathered the risk of a Carrier fleet by virtue of his build, and NonY knew he needed to bring his absolute best play to the next game in order to even up the series against the Terran dominion.

Terran and Toss Tornadoes


NonY started this game off like a tornado indeed, beginning at the 4 and not only manner pyloning his opponent but also harassing with a Zealot. IdrA defended flawlessly for a while, until suddenly the Protoss came barrelling up the Terran ramp with 2 Dragoons and a Zealot. The 3 Marines and SCV defenders were all killed in exchange for the Zealot, and for a mere second it looked as if IdrA might be in trouble.

He was unconcerned, however, and with a freshly minted Siege Tank repaired by several SCVs, NonY was sent packing; one of the Dragoons barely made it out with 10 life. A Nexus was the immediate response, and NonY continued to display spirit that would make a berserker proud. Within no time at all, the Protoss were again breaking into the Terran base: 5 Dragoons came in the front as a Reaver and 2 Zealots were dropped on top of the defending Siege Tanks.

Nearly all of the SCVs at the natural were killed, and one Reaver managed to slowly crawl away to safety as IdrA got things back in line within the Terran base. Reaver harassment attempts continued, but he was unable to seriously damage IdrA at this point, and the game turned into a macro fest–or so it would seem!

As IdrA took his third, NonY showed the reason for his own slightly delayed third: an army of Dragoons mixed with speed Zealots clashed with the Terran forces heading to the third. IdrA had barely seen it coming in time, and just managed to fight with his SCVs combined with his forces. In the end, the Protoss were killed to a man and the Terran barely emerged victorious. Had those SCVs been but a few seconds later, IdrA's forces would have been swept away.

The newly summoned Protoss army danced around outside Siege Tank range, but there were simply too many mechs for them to engage. IdrA relentlessly pushed forward, but when a group of Dragoons tried to backstab his third, he swiftly isolated and executed them for thinking such thoughts.

Over time IdrA solidified his position near NonY on the map, and NonY was forced to concede the game, and the match, to IdrA. He congratulated "You had to push so far, it was very impressive", and then left the game.

(P)(us)NonY 1 - 3 (T)(us)IdrA



Interview With The Winner


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PokerStrategy.com TSL:
Congrats on winning, how do you feel?

IdrA[Media]:
Pretty good, I expected to win but he was playing pretty abusive strategies so I got a little nervous a few times throughout the series.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
Can you describe what happened in each game a bit, and how you felt at the critical moments?

IdrA[Media]:
Well the first game on outsider was pretty easy since I got a second scv scout in and saw he went 1 gate expo to his front expo so I just did a fac cc fac push and killed it, his reaver drop counter didnt do enough damage so I was able to just outmacro him from there. There weren't really any critical moments that game, beyond getting the scout scv in.

Second game he chose to take a freewin by going double nexus on andro. Got diagonal positions to make it even sillier. I timing pushed and killed his expo and a bunch of probes and won every battle, but then he made some units that kill everything and I lost. Critical moment there was him building his nexus. Very well done by him.

Third game he gas rushed me on desti, but went 1 gate expo followup so I was able to just go rax cc and end up in pretty even shape. I scanned really fast carriers and luckily I had gone 4 fac before 3rd cc, because I expected him to try to bust me with a shuttle when I moved out to take my third, so I was able to timing push him as the first carriers came out. I pretty much won when I saw the carriers that early.

Fourth game was probably the closest. I think he opened 1 gate reaver bulldog, did good damage with it. Killed maybe 2-3 tanks and 8-10 scvs, plus got his expo up pretty fast. He was in good shape there, but then he showed me speedlots really early and he got his third kinda late so I knew hed try to break my third, I saw it coming and got scvs blocking in time to defend. That kind of evened up the game and then I was just able to abuse the map to push into his natural and there wasn't much he could do about it. His reaver attack and then goon/speedlot attack were the two critical moments and I was pretty nervous at both, but luckily I managed to defend.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
In the last game, you mentioned feeling nervous at both critical moments... did you ever think to yourself that you had actually lost, or was it just nervous that you might lose?

IdrA[Media]:
Just that they were dangerous situations, on the reaver bulldog I knew it was just 1 gate from his goon count so he wouldn't be able to kill me, and I knew the speedlot attack was coming and got the scvs out in time so I was pretty sure I could block it.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
In all the games, we saw a pretty big lack of arbiters... were you expecting him to use arbiters in the match?

IdrA[Media]:
Well on Destination carriers are a better choice so that wasn't suprising, on outsider arbiters are ridiculously strong but he was so behind economically that it wouldnt've worked. He had to just bank on me not seeing carriers in time. Tornado arbiters definitely would have helped him but he chose to try to end it early instead of teching. Given that he was trying to avoid a management game with me it's not all that suprising that he didn't go arbiters.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
NonY used to be known for his crisp build orders and relying upon his strong mechanics as his play. Were you expecting him to rely upon that style, or to try to play cheesily, maybe even with some kind of early DT play to try to catch you off guard?

IdrA[Media]:
I expected him to play really abusive econ builds, the way he did on outsider and andro. I think cheesy allins would have given him a better chance but thats never really been his style so while I was aware of them I didn't really think he'd use them.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
How did you prepare for this match?

IdrA[Media]:
I didn't intend to prepare at all since we had a ranking league yesterday but my coach knew about my match and he actually told me not to play the league and just practice for tsl instead, even had (P)invade[fOu] skip the league as well to help. So I just practiced with him.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
And how are you going to celebrate now? Perhaps buying invade some drinks?

IdrA[Media]:
It's just the qualifiers, I wasn't really planning on celebrating yet. Gotta save that for the finals.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
You just played NonY several games. How do you think he'll do in his qualifier group ((Z)(bg)NeMu, (T)(de)HoRRoR in Q1, (Z)(fr)KenZy in Q2)

IdrA[Media]:
He'll win it easily. No one in that group is capable of outplaying him and he'll have a bo5 since hes into q3.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
So, as I'm sure you're aware, your countryman G5 beat Cloud 2-0... how do you feel about that match? Any comments?

IdrA[Media]:
I'm very happy for G5, and I love the fact that Cloud is getting all butthurt about it on the forums since he's one the emo players who has a hissy fit every time someone says anything after a match.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
Any final message to your fans, or perhaps a flame for your anti-fans?

IdrA[Media]:
Thanks for cheering for me, hope you enjoyed the match.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
OK, thanks for the interview IdrA! good luck in the future rounds of the PokerStrategy.com TSL!

IdrA[Media]:
No problem, thanks


Congratulations to (T)(us)IdrA!




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 Corr   Denmark. January 10 2010 06:12. Posts 529
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"Critical moment there was him building his nexus. Very well done by him."

Idra as we prefer him!
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 Sadistx   Zimbabwe. January 10 2010 06:12. Posts 5474
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he made some units that kill everything and I lost. Critical moment there was him building his nexus. Very well done by him.


Classic.


I didn't intend to prepare at all since we had a ranking league yesterday but my coach knew about my match and he actually told me not to play the league and just practice for tsl instead, even had (P)invade[fOu] skip the league as well to help. So I just practiced with him.


That's very nice of the coach. Is invade[fOu] really good?
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 Kennigit  *   Canada. January 10 2010 06:14. Posts 19214
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IdrA[Media]:
I didn't intend to prepare at all since we had a ranking league yesterday but my coach knew about my match and he actually told me not to play the league and just practice for tsl instead, even had (P)invade[fOu] skip the league as well to help. So I just practiced with him.



This made me smile . Pretty awesome that CJ is taking this seriously.
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 VeirenT   United States. January 10 2010 06:16. Posts 181
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nicenice, it's good that the coach devoted another player to practice with him!
 
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  BanZu   United States. January 10 2010 06:16. Posts 3329Profile Blog # 
Ah, IdrA, IdrA, IdrA....
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  intrigue   Washington, D.C. January 10 2010 06:18. Posts 9278Profile Blog # 
another reason why cj is awesome. was invade annoyed at all?
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  IntoTheWow   is awesome. January 10 2010 06:18. Posts 31041Profile Blog # 
hahahahahah
 
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 CynanMachae   Canada. January 10 2010 06:18. Posts 1407
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Lol at the nexus comments, and yea, pretty nice of CJ coach to give him some time for TSL
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 emucxg   Finland. January 10 2010 06:19. Posts 3616
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I love the fact that Cloud is getting all butthurt about it on the forums since he's one the emo players who has a hissy fit every time someone says anything after a match.


lol
 
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 TryThis   Canada. January 10 2010 06:19. Posts 1522
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"I knew hed try to break my third, I saw it coming and got scvs blocking in time to defend."

i looked like such a lucky maynard to me while i was watching it, still that was a really close game.
gotta love idras comments
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 pripple   Finland. January 10 2010 06:19. Posts 1712
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loooool at idra's comments of game2, hahahahaha ;D
CJ looking like a really nice team afterall, can't hate them anymore... oh well there's still SKT1 left!
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  micronesia   United States. January 10 2010 06:19. Posts 19522Profile Blog # 
Between Idra's superior experience and the support he's apparently getting he's undoubtedly going be a monster until the end.

Congrats on your win Greg.
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 Salv   Canada. January 10 2010 06:20. Posts 2965
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Nice interview. Hilarious to see Idra mentioning other players hissy fits.
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 Slow Motion   United States. January 10 2010 06:20. Posts 4439
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games 2 and 4 were great with high level play from both guys. gg.

and congrats to idra
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 Klive5ive   United Kingdom. January 10 2010 06:21. Posts 5820
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Allowing him to skip a tournament is no big deal; but actually allocating him another player solely to help him practice... awesome.
I wonder if CJ get a portion of your prize money if he wins?
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 Zeburial   Sweden. January 10 2010 06:21. Posts 1104
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was awesome to watch! ^_^ Go idra go!
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 oberon   United States. January 10 2010 06:21. Posts 1041
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On January 10 2010 06:09 Hot_Bid wrote:
but then he made some units that kill everything and I lost.


So, per Idra, templar under swarm would be "invincible units that kill everything"? The emotional maturity vs. Starcraft ability contrast is strong.

--oberon
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  Empyrean   January 10 2010 06:21. Posts 16305Profile Blog # 
Idra's really improved since last year. Congratulations on today.
 
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 Bosu   United States. January 10 2010 06:23. Posts 3165
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Idras interview skillz have improved 100x since his first scforall one. You should give lessons to the other pros on how to have a good interview.

Was a pretty great series. Usually I find foreigner Bo5 to be pretty boring, but this was as fun to watch as a lot of pro level games to me.
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