| Caller Poland. January 29 2010 09:42. Posts 7266 | Profile Blog # |
This is a Japanese Mahjong Game. Japanese Mahjong differs from all variants of Chinese Mahjong.
Also, for those of you that like anime, this is the kind of mahjong they play in all those animes, I think.
Here are the primary differences:
A) No "Chicken" hands (i.e. your hand must be worth at least one point/winning combination)
B) 13 Tiles. Taiwanese Mahjong tends to have 16.
C) Riichi. Riichi is a method to have a winning hand. If your hand is closed (meaning you have not made any chi's (eats) pungs, or open kangs (i.e. you have three of something and someone plays the fourth)) and your hand is waiting on a single tile for victory, you can declare Riichi, which does two things:
i) You put 1000 points on the table.
ii) You must discard every tile that comes except for your winning tile, or if you can make a kang with it that doesn't change your wait.
If you win, you get the Riichi yaku, which gives you one point. If you win on the turn that you declared Riichi, you get Ippatsu, which gives you another point. If you declared Riichi on the opening hand, it is a Double Riichi, which gives you another point.
Winning a Riichi also gives you "ura-dora" which are under doras. Which leads me to:
D) Dora tiles. The fourth to the last tile is flipped over and is the dora indicator. This means that the next tile is the dora(for instance, if the indicator is an 8 of circles, the dora is the 9 of circles.) Each dora that you have gives you a bonus point, assuming you have a hand with at least one winning combination (for instance, your hand cannot win if you have 8 doras but no winning combination). Each kang that is made flips over another tile to turn it into a dora. If somebody wins with a Riichi, the tiles under the current Dora indicators are turned into new dora indicators. For instance, if someone wins, and the dora is the 8 of circles, the tile under the flipped over 7 of circles becomes a new dora. So if it is also a 7 of circles, that means there each 8 of circles counts as two dora.
There are many other differences, which you should probably read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Mahjong_yaku and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Mahjong_scoring_rules
Getting on Tenhou:
First thing to do is go to www.tenhou.net/0/?L7447. This is a private server for non-Japanese players.
Then click on the thing that looks like this:
>> サーバに接続
You'll be taken to a screen that looks like this:
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Type in an ID name that you want and then click OK. Once that's finished, you'll be taken to a screen that looks like this:
To join a game, click on one of the 12 boxes on the left big box. That will put you in line for a game. The top 8 boxes are 4 player games, and the bottom 4 boxes are 3 player games. I'm not too sure what the difference between the left and right sides are, but the top 4 are one round (han-chan) and the bottom 4 are two rounds (two han-chan). I think the very bottom one is also known for having "red dora."
Post your username in this thread and poke around in case people want to play.
Users:
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| d3_crescentia United States. January 29 2010 09:44. Posts 3667 | Profile Blog # |
I'd be down if this were a chinese variant  |
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| Cyrox Sweden. January 29 2010 09:45. Posts 147 | Profile # |
| I'd like to try but the rules seems so complex it's ridiculus. |
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| Caller Poland. January 29 2010 09:47. Posts 7266 | Profile Blog # |
| its really easy, you guys will pick it up as you go along. Just play normally and start with closed hands. |
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| ToN Canada. January 29 2010 09:55. Posts 245 | Profile # |
| Is this the same type of mahjong played in the anime akagi? It seems fairly overwhelming O.O. Might look into it after exams shall see =O. Thanks though ^^ |
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| Fishball Canada. January 29 2010 09:57. Posts 4702 | Profile # |
On January 29 2010 09:44 d3_crescentia wrote:I'd be down if this were a chinese variant
Although different, Japanese Mahjong is still very similar to 13 Tiles Chinese Mahjong.
Reminds me of the Mahjong championships held in Macau every year. Winner gets a million dollars.
People from all around the world plays in that tournament (just like Poker!)
Hong Kong owns in this game  |
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| Ikari United States. January 29 2010 09:59. Posts 175 | Profile # |
| I play this at home sometimes, but I think it's the Chinese variation without flowers (so 13 tiles per person). Never understood the scoring though, so the majority of the time, I probably won with "chicken" hands... (all suits/no honors or winds/combination of closed and exposed pongs and sheungs with the two eyes). |
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| ieatkids5 United States. January 29 2010 09:59. Posts 4383 | Profile Blog # |
| heh, i played some hk variant of mahjong with the family, and figured out japanese rules with touhou doujinshi. |
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| Judicator United States. January 29 2010 10:10. Posts 5724 | Profile Blog # | |
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| dangots0ul United States. January 29 2010 10:25. Posts 899 | Profile Blog # |
| great game, but much funner in real life with friends. a lot of swings so its kinda whatever online. probably less psychology too cause lots of donkaments |
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| Caller Poland. January 29 2010 11:43. Posts 7266 | Profile Blog # |
| if you guys want i can stream tenhou every now and then ^^ |
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| Spazer Canada. December 23 2010 10:09. Posts 5479 | Profile Blog # |
My break started not too long ago, so I've been playing on tenhou a lot.
So anybody up for a game sometime? There must be more riichi mahjong players on TL... |
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| zJayy962 December 23 2010 10:14. Posts 1313 | Profile Blog # |
Actually Japanese Mahjong is exactly the same as Cantonese Mahjong. Japanese borrowed from the Cantons and is EXACTLY the same rules.
But yes I love the game and hope to play with fellow TL'ers |
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| Sufficiency Canada. December 23 2010 10:25. Posts 7289 | Profile Blog # |
The way my family plays is the following (for a normal win):
The pair has to have numerical values of 2, 5, or 8 (if it's in late game and you want to discard a 2, 5, or 8, beware!)
There has to be a set with numerical values of 1 or 9.
The sets and the pair must contain either all of the one suit, or all three suits.
So yea, really hard to get a winning hand |
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| Spazer Canada. December 23 2010 10:51. Posts 5479 | Profile Blog # |
On December 23 2010 10:14 zJayy962 wrote:
Actually Japanese Mahjong is exactly the same as Cantonese Mahjong. Japanese borrowed from the Cantons and is EXACTLY the same rules.
But yes I love the game and hope to play with fellow TL'ers
I'm fairly certain that the first set of rules I played with was Cantonese, and although it's similar to Japanese (being a variant and all), the rules are markedly different.
For instance:
- There is no organized discard pool in Cantonese
- The concept of furiten does not exist in Cantonese
- Riichi does not exist in Cantonese
- Neither dora or red tiles exist in Cantonese
- There are no flower tiles in Japanese
- The Japanese point system is more complex since score is determined by a combination of fu and han as opposed to just fan. The Japanese system also counts points by hundreds as opposed to powers of two.
- Japanese mahjong has no "chicken" hand (though getting a winning hand still isn't that hard because of open tanyao and yakuhai).
- The list of yaku (possible scoring hands) in Japanese mahjong is larger
- In Japanese, the player that deals out the winning piece pays the entire worth of the hand. In Cantonese, all players must pay the person with the winning hand, although the person that dealt the winning tile must pay more.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
I personally prefer the Japanese variant just because of the dealout rules - it gives players a lot of incentive to look at other players' discard pools and avoid dealing into their hands, especially when they've riichi'd. |
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| cynical Canada. December 23 2010 11:16. Posts 581 | Profile Blog # |
| I used to play a lot on tenhou and got up to 3 dan. But then i got owned by 13 orphans and havent been the same since. I play live more than anything. Hit me up if you want a game. |
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| Xinliben United States. December 29 2010 02:17. Posts 931 | Profile # |
Hi. I am a very good Japanese mahjong player, I own a set of tiles and play in real life in a club I started at my Uni. I was 5dan on tenhou, but have since gone down to 3dan over the past few months having terrible streaks, although lately I have been doing well and am on the verge of 4dan again. I have been playing as a main hobby for a few years now and have even bought the client off and on (My luck seems to be better when I do NOT buy the client, hilariously.)If you guys want to set up a for fun game feel free to PM me, I'd love to play with some friendly people non competitively.
Wasn't expecting TL people to play, pretty cool. |
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 Deekin[ Serbia. December 29 2010 03:23. Posts 1685 | Profile # |
| This so reminds me of the anime Akagi which is about Mahjong. Its one of the best I have seen really. I learned quite a bit of Mahjong from it and always have wanted to try it myself but I havent been able to do it. But still its an awesome game. |
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| Wesso Netherlands. December 29 2010 03:53. Posts 943 | Profile # |
On December 29 2010 03:23 Deekin[ wrote:
This so reminds me of the anime Akagi which is about Mahjong. Its one of the best I have seen really. I learned quite a bit of Mahjong from it and always have wanted to try it myself but I havent been able to do it. But still its an awesome game.
Akagi is awesome yes.
Thanks OP, I've been searching forever for a mahjong game  Me and my friends play it IRL sometimes. |
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| Xinliben United States. December 29 2010 04:31. Posts 931 | Profile # |
I have this really nice PDF of everything you could ever need to know about Japanese mahjong that explains the tiles, rules, hands, scoring, even tenhou. I uploaded it so if anyone is interested please check it out!
http://www.mediafire.com/?668ks2s8qq5d3xs |
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