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Fulgrim
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Fulgrim
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On February 10 2010 04:14 meeple wrote: Sweet... lets get this party started... Just curious as to why we have the 48 hour days? To be honest in that last game we had the activity to do 24 hours days. In our game meeple we needed those 48 hour days because there were periods where no one posted anything for hours. I think this game will be really interesting seeing as how the mafia won't be interested in killing townies, and will make the mafia also do a bit of clue analysis to figure out who the opposite family is. DT's will be valuable to both mafia and townies this game. | ||
Fulgrim
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On February 10 2010 09:58 Incognito wrote: 48 hours have been standard for games as large as these. People need some time to read through the posts, and not everyone can be constantly checking. The 48 hour days is also to accommodate for the difference time zones. If the town is eliminated, then yes, it is true that the mafia with more members automatically wins. However, it is unlikely that all the townies will die before the mafia because the KP is under the mafia's control. The mafia do not know all the roles, so it is difficult for them to target only townspeople. Incognito being too nice and helpful. All signs point to mafia | ||
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Fulgrim
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On February 12 2010 07:55 tree.hugger wrote: I think it'll be nice to have a game where half the people and nearly all the blues aren't inactive... You sound like you speak from experience tree.hugger | ||
Fulgrim
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On February 12 2010 09:22 d3_crescentia wrote: yeah must have been real rough having to deal with all those inactives... quite | ||
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On February 13 2010 00:50 Abenson wrote: wtf? is the unit avatar measured by post count per day? I really wanna evolve D: sidesprang: 250 - ling flamewheel91: 358 - drone ?!?!?!?!? Its like pokemon, some evolve faster then others | ||
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On February 13 2010 07:04 Phrujbaz wrote: Somebody could make a convenient database. Thanks for volunteering | ||
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Fulgrim
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On February 14 2010 10:48 Mystlord wrote: Some thoughts on what I've read (I might be forgetting some stuff): I think that clues are definitely important pre-Day 3, but we shouldn't lynch on them, rather they should be used to get everyone discussing. Lynching based purely off of clues is completely retarded early in the game because there's nothing backing anything up, and in a game like this, where we have a lot of variety, they could point to someone completely different, and we'd be none the wiser. That said, we should be getting everyone to participate in the discussion. There's nothing worse than inactives, which, as Ver pointed out, ultimately hurts the town as they look just as suspicious as the mafia, which leads to wasted lynches and random lynches. And as for L's suggestion to lynch Chezinu Day 1, I don't think that's a good idea. Last time that was tried (t_co), it absolutely did nothing. At the very least we need something other than "a lot of posts" for a valid lynch. Give us "inactives" a chance to speak lol, its only been a few hours. (was at an awesome new years party) So as people have pointed out before, clues are important. They will help us catch mafia, HOWEVER they should not be the sole deciding factor on a lynch in the early game, and the lynch should definitely not be random. We need a reason to get someone, not just because they were picked out of a list. After reading over the 7 pages you guys made in like 2 hours, I think that I'm going to vote for Ver, because it seems that he would lead the town in the right direction, having the best posts so far. | ||
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On February 14 2010 11:45 Ace wrote: Ok, the KingPin has arrived. Time to stop this nonsense and get this game started. First of all, I'm going to be brutally honest here. Some of you playing are newbies. That isn't to say you're bad, but more so that you haven't had the experience of playing a true cut throat game of Mafia. The last 2 games were honestly so bland - aka too much talking about clues, that it wasn't really that much high level strategy going on. Like Ver said, talking too much about clues early is USELESS. Don't try to convince anyone that someone is Mafia based on clues for the first few days. It's nice to mention it, but do not make it a central point of focus. MTF and Camlito are the best 2 clue analyzers along with Plexa that we ever had. That was in Mafia 2 and it took a ton of planning + input from various people to even come to some of those conclusions. Chances are you won't be able to do much with clues this game unless you've got some additional proof. What I mean by this is catch someone on behavior analysis + clues + shoddy voting or motives. Saying "this clue points to Ace" is just stupid. Knowing this, I'm not surprised LL and Zato -1 are already accusing me. Look people, especially for you new players - I'm one of the biggest targets in any Mafia game. Every time. I'm super valuable. I catch people in lies all the time and I always save townies from the obvious bandwagon deaths. L and Zato may not have blatantly accused me but they just planted a seed of suspicion on me of all people, based on some wild clues. Be very wary of light weight accusations like this. I'm running for Mayor of course. But in the event I don't win, my vote is possibly going to Ver. The only reason I might not vote for him is because he has elected to kill BC which is just as bad as L/Zato wanting me dead. Our most valuable players should be saved unless it's blatantly obvious they are Mafia. There are 3 teams this game, don't even bother trying to murder all of our good players so soon. Ace you really need to give people more incentive if you expect them to vote for you. You should try and post something with more substance, then just "I'M ACE VOTE FOR ME". Some healthy mafia accusations never hurt anyone, I agree that clues aren't the most helpful early game as you can easily screw up, but its not any worse then just lynching a random player. | ||
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Fulgrim
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On February 14 2010 13:20 l10f wrote: Hmm, it looks like I won't be getting the mayor spot so easily! How about this, if I am elected mayor, instead of going on my vengeful rampage and lynching the people responsible for my quick death last game, I will lynch CHEZINU. You want to vote me now, don't you? Good because that would have been me... Sorry l10f =( | ||
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On February 14 2010 14:18 Faronel wrote: I think Ace was right... It's kind of a RISK like game with mini alliances where the town acts like a mafia family with kp of 1. There's definitely some intrigue here. So just to clear this up... we have 5 people contending for mayor? Ace, L, Citizen, l10f, meeple, and Ver. Right now everyone has 1 vote except for Ace and Ver who have 2 votes. I don't think Ver actually said he was running yet, but if he does he has my vote currently. | ||
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On February 14 2010 17:28 Bill Murray wrote: after reading your alls posts, it is actually sort of easy to put people into groups of "blind faith and teamwork" which would be associated with mafia. the only problem here is there seem to be multiple groups L Chezinu redtooth laaan zato-1 bloodycobbler ver L Mystlord fulgrim in my opinion are mafia, possibly not all in the same mafia, but that's my guess i also think that bloodycobbler is the other mafia godfather thanks Bill, I don't think i've posted more then 4 times yet. I am going to switch my vote from Ver to Dr.h because I haven't seen anything that Ver said, that would mean that he is running, and Dr.h appears to be similar in approach to this game, along with some good posts thus far. All the other candidates I have a hard time trusting. | ||
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On February 15 2010 09:37 Caller wrote: That's just it though: in this game the DT doesn't have to worry about dying as much purely because Mafia has a fixed, low KP, and we have medics. Suppose a DT roleclaims publicly that he is a DT. The mafias can't afford to hit him in the event that he is an actual DT because they will lose a KP that would be better served hitting an opposing mafia. More importantly, since mafia don't have to kill town to win, they don't need to hunt down all the blue roles immediately-in fact, they would like to have a DT to give them role checks to narrow down their search for the opposing mafia. So there's no real need for the DT to fear, especially because we have enough medics to negate any deaths. I already explained why its unlikely for mafia to pose as a DT purely because there's too much risk and not enough reward for the mafia team because there are two mafias. The game changes completely in this scenario so a lot more can be done than in a normal town vs. one mafia game. I was actually going to post a similar idea but caller beat me too it. I think that our DT's shouldn't be in alot of danger this game because mafia want to use the DT's not kill them. (unless they are trying to eliminate the town). I think our focus now should be towards getting one or two confirmed DT's so they can start a circle of trust with townies they role-check. This would allow the town a greater sense of security, because the mafia wouldn't waste their time on medic protected DT's and confirmed townies. | ||
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Vote Tally for Mayor/Pardoner [QUOTE]On February 15 2010 09:41 flamewheel91 wrote: Vote Tally for Mayor/Pardoner BloodyC0bbler Votes: 0 citi.zen Votes: 7 Fishball Faronel DoctorHelvetica MasterDana dozko [NyC]HoBbes 789 l10f Votes: 1 Malongo meeple Votes: 0 Ver Votes: 4 BloodyC0bbler Bill Murray Amber[LighT] Vivi57 Ace Votes: 2 Caller Abenson redtooth Votes: 1 Chezinu L Votes: 5 Iaaan ~OpZ~ Madnessman Zato-1 Scamp DoctorHelvetica Votes: 2 citi.zen Fulgrim Abstain sidesprang l10f redtooth Ace Mystlord Ver Nikoner ShoCkeyy QuickStriker johnnyspazz Phrujbaz So it appears that Citi.zen is in the lead with 7 votes and then L with 5. I am a little concerned with voting for citi.zen solely based on his last game (which admittedly was well done). It is interesting that many candidates seem almost ignored completely by the votes, and assuming some mafia have voted yet, it seems that the votes are polarized in a few areas. | ||
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On February 15 2010 12:29 Ace wrote: ok cool, no problem. Just make sure that in the event of my death you offer yourself up for lynching when I flip green ok? People need to get one idea into their heads: this is not like any of the other mafia games. When someone is lynched, its going to be alot harder to analyze the voters, and the people who pushed for their death. If a player flips red, that could mean that the voters are: a) town, and their suspicions were right or b) mafia trying to kill off the other family if the player flips green or blue, in all the other games, we could assume that there are pretty good chances that the players who voted to lynch them were mafia. HOWEVER in this game, the mafia don't all know each other, coupled with the fact the mafia are trying to hit red just as hard as the town, I think this would make the accusers have equal chance of being red or green. | ||
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On February 15 2010 13:57 SugiuraMidori wrote: I told you why I'm abstaining... they're all hooligans!! And it gets OLD to see vet players always take mayor pardoner.. what's the freaking point, let some new players learn how to play the game. Also.. edited the last post to show it in count order, and placed old post in spoiler so it's preserved. Removed the mods from the counts as well... I think abstentions hurt the town more then a vote for a bad candidate. Not only are you not giving input to the town's direction, you are denying the town information about yourself. I would encourage abstainers to change their vote to a candidate before the end of the election. (not directed at you sugiura, just abstainers in general, as we appear to have a lot of them) | ||
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On February 15 2010 14:10 johnnyspazz wrote: i can safely say i barely learned anything from my last game lol It was inactivity guys, luckily this game doesn't seem to have that problem. | ||
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