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TL Mafia Ban List

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  flamewheel   HANG KANG. March 04 2010 15:36. Posts 21483Profile Blog # 
Introduction
This thread helps the hosts keep track of banned players for the mafia games. People get added to this list by breaking the rules of the mafia game they were playing in, usually by going inactive.

Consequences of being on the Ban List
Hosts can choose to follow the Ban List or not at their own discretion. If they are following the Ban List, then players who are listed as banned will not be allowed to sign up for that game.

Punishments
There are three categories of punishments: semi-permanent bans, punishments following the Banned Game Count, and warnings.

Semi-permanent bans happen after especially egregious actions in games, such as threatening to ruin the game. Expect these punishments to last months if not years. If you get removed from this, your Banned Game Count will be artificially inflated.

The Banned Game Count applies to most modkills (including modkills for inactivity) and is calculated as follows: 2N - 1 where N = the number of times you have been banned. So the first time you get banned, your count is 1. The second time, your Count is 3. If you are modkilled for going inactive in 2 games at once, your Banned Game Count will be calculated as if you were modkilled in one game, but you will receive a warning upon being taken off the Ban List . We reserve the right to artificially inflate your Banned Game Count based upon conduct not meriting a semi-permanent ban, but also not meriting a standard ban.

Warnings are generally given out if the host is trying to be nice, or your conduct doesn't quite meet what they think is ban-worthy. Each warning you get adds 1 to your Banned Game Count the next time you are banned. Generally hosts are less likely to give you leniency if you already have a warning.

How to get removed from the Ban List
If you are semi-permanently banned, post here and your ban will be discussed.

If you are not semi-permanently banned, you must sit out a number of games equal to your Banned Game Count. You may sit out any game which is hosted on this forum unless the host of that game says otherwise (which usually happens in games which are over very quickly). Not playing in a game is not the same as sitting it out.

To sit out a game, you must do these two things during the signups of that game (assuming you are not currently sitting out a different game and the game in which you were banned has finished):
1. PM the host of the game you are sitting out saying you are sitting out that game.
2. Post here that you are sitting out that game.

If you cannot point me to a post or PM clearly stating "I am sitting out XYZ Mafia," you are not sitting out that game.

I will note that you are sitting out that game once it starts. At the end of that game, your Banned Game Count will be reduced by 1 and you will be removed if if is 0. You cannot sit out two games which run concurrently. Your name will be added to the "People taken off the list" category so I can keep track of you in case you are banned again in the future. You cannot play in other games which follow the Ban List until the last game in which you are sitting out has finished.

Old bans
The Old Bans section contains bans from games over a year ago. If you are on this list and want to play, post here and we will discuss it. Hosts, don't worry about this section unless one of those players pops up or Mig or I PM you about it.

What to do if you have a problem with your ban
First talk to the moderator who modkilled you and asked for a ban in the first place. Try to explain to them why the punishment is incorrect in your situation. If that does not work, post the situation here. I will not make decisions about bans by other hosts via PM. Anyone can give their opinion in these situations, but only people who have hosted or actively cohosted in 2 games may vote. The host of the game and the cohost of the game's votes count for 1.5 of a vote.

What to do if there is a mistake on the list
If I forget to update that you are sitting out a game or if I forget to remove you from the list, or if I make any other mistake regarding this list, please send me a PM or post here and I will fix the situation as soon as possible. My apologies in advance if this happens.

My role
I am a horse. All I do is keep track of the collective decisions of the mafia forum members in general and the hosts of the game in particular. This is an open environment moderation-wise. I will post my opinions on most issues, but what I say is not the final word. Feel free to chime in and give your opinion. Please do not PM me if you have a problem with a ban. Please post your problem here so everyone can discuss it.

Mig
There are times when I am too busy or too involved in the situation to resolve a ban quickly. If Mig is not too involved in the situation, he will moderate the discussion about the modkill instead of me. I will just record the ban based upon his decision. Alternatively, you may ask for Mig to moderate the discussion instead of me if you would rather have him do it.

Rules for this thread
If you are not a host or cohost, please do not request bans for anyone without PMing me first.

If the ban is not a standard inactivity modkill, do not ask me to unilaterally make a decision as to punishment. I will not do it. If you ask repeatedly, I will give you a ban list ban.

If I tell you to stop discussing a topic in a ban discussion, you drop it. I don't care what your opinion on the relevance of the subject is, you drop it. Similarly, if I tell you to stop spamming the ban list thread, you stop.

Personal attacks towards me during ban list discussions are unacceptable. I know you are angry at what is going on, but that doesn't mean you can insult me. I will consult with Mig, and if he both agrees that what you said was over the line, you get a ban list ban. Don't persist--I have friends in high places.

Final note
The host of your game has the first say on what happens in your game. If you have a problem with how your game is being run or how another player is treating you in that game, talk to the host first. You should only come here if you cannot resolve the situation by talking to the host of your game.

+ Show Spoiler [Complete Ban List] +

+ Show Spoiler [Semi-permanent bans] +

+ Show Spoiler [People taken off the list] +

+ Show Spoiler [Warnings] +
Last edit: 2012-05-19 08:41:45
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 Caller   Poland. March 04 2010 16:16. Posts 7265
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i was wondering why we banned showtime

showtime made mafia fun T_T
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  bEsT[Alive]   March 04 2010 16:28. Posts 606Profile # 
Cool beans.

Good question Ryan. I was banned under who's authority?

Like I said before, I never broke the rules.

Ryan, mafia was only fun when you were on my team. ;p I'm a real bitch to play against. It's called tough luck.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
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 Infundibulum   United States. March 04 2010 18:55. Posts 2313
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i think it had to do with the smurf game

or maybe the time in Callers game where you agreed to play for the mafia even though you were town
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 Ace   United States. March 04 2010 20:59. Posts 13504
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lmao
No sir I fully get it, however unless I can unlaunch my nuke there is not much we can do about it. I also wasn't posting as much because I didn't fully read the rules yet LOL! - RebirthofLegend in WaW Mafia
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  bEsT[Alive]   March 04 2010 23:22. Posts 606Profile # 
That's funny.

You can speculate all you want, but I never directly asked anyone who they were. Like I said, I wasn't playing with you then you had absolutely no idea what was going on. For instance, in Caller's game Ver and I were exchanging PMs from day one and the circumstances were totally situational. ^_^

It's a compliment in many ways, so it's no biggie. Considering how bad some players are at detecting tells and sleuthing plus their inactivity and not voting on time (lmao), I personally don't care.

Cheers



Predictable as always Ace.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
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 Ace   United States. March 05 2010 01:50. Posts 13504
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I was actually laughing because of all the craziness that happened during that smurf game. I didn't know you screwed shit up. *shrug*

No sir I fully get it, however unless I can unlaunch my nuke there is not much we can do about it. I also wasn't posting as much because I didn't fully read the rules yet LOL! - RebirthofLegend in WaW Mafia
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 L   Canada. March 05 2010 02:58. Posts 4546
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I still don't know what was actually 'screwed up' during the smurf game besides someone killing me night one.

Which is clearly fucked.
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 Qatol   United States. March 05 2010 03:36. Posts 3010
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On March 04 2010 16:16 Caller wrote:
i was wondering why we banned showtime

showtime made mafia fun T_T


There are several reasons various people wanted him banned.

For some, it was his attitude:
+ Show Spoiler +
For others it was his ragequitting, ruining games that are not over (which actually is against the rules if you check).
+ Show Spoiler +
But the thing I find the most inexcusable is him insulting the host when all Pyrr was doing was following the rules set out in the OP.
+ Show Spoiler +
I'd also like to say that I personally didn't vote either way as far as unbanning him. I only asked the opinions of other former hosts/ experienced players. However, when the answer came back completely unanimous that he should be banned for at least the next 2-3 games, it wasn't exactly a hard decision to leave him on the list.
Uff Da
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 Ace   United States. March 05 2010 04:32. Posts 13504
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hahahahaha @ Showtime's rage.

Oh well, ban it is.

Still don't understand why he raged at Pyrr so hard when the guy tried to help to be fair.
No sir I fully get it, however unless I can unlaunch my nuke there is not much we can do about it. I also wasn't posting as much because I didn't fully read the rules yet LOL! - RebirthofLegend in WaW Mafia
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 Versatile   United States. March 05 2010 04:45. Posts 396
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ROFLMAO @ that dude.

however, going @ the host is completely uncalled for imo. they have shittest job, no need for them to deal with someone mouthing off to them as well.
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  bEsT[Alive]   March 05 2010 04:55. Posts 606Profile # 
Rage?

Don't make me laugh.

Two words for you: sour grapes.

Qatol, if I recall correctly it was you and LTT who wanted the game over as well, so I wouldn't use that card if I were you. Besides that, you were going to call the game anyway if and only if my team managed to swing the vote. They had several hours to do this and they failed to comply. We didn't have activity problems until that moment and it was only fitting to give it to the Town.

Now let's get something else straight:


I get why Inf. would be bitter. He made a great pawn. I understand why he cannot sleep at night over it, hence his resentment. You got played brother. Move on.

As for your last comment. I’m not the one who comes up with these silly ideas for games. If the hosts are going to add silly roles to make their games different, good for them. But, like I said to everyone I ever played with. I will exploit them to gain my side an advantage and usually I will ask the admins prior to proceeding including you Qatol. The game I was GF I basically told you my every move. As for pry, he can go fuck himself because from what I recall he's a tool.

The biggest problem with most of the games here is activity. When I play I'm right up there with the most active. I do a lot behind the scenes and if you don't like being called out then tough.

GG

EDIT: I love how you took everything out of context Qatol. GJ
Last edit: 2010-03-05 04:56:30
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 Amber[LighT]   United States. March 05 2010 04:56. Posts 5078
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To Showtime!'s defense the game where he gave up the mafia it was only because vivi and mbh didn't vote correctly and when vivi or w/e flipped it was obvious who the mafioso's were.
It's not supposed to be easy, that's why it feels so effing good.
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  bEsT[Alive]   March 05 2010 04:57. Posts 606Profile # 
Actually Amber I think it was four of you guys who didn't show up ;d

It doesn't matter, I'm going to take the higher road.
Last edit: 2010-03-05 04:57:54
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 Caller   Poland. March 05 2010 05:03. Posts 7265
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to be fair i was raging about that game too
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 Qatol   United States. March 05 2010 05:10. Posts 3010
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On March 05 2010 04:55 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Rage?

Don't make me laugh.

Two words for you: sour grapes.

Qatol, if I recall correctly it was you and LTT who wanted the game over as well, so I wouldn't use that card if I were you. Besides that, you were going to call the game anyway if and only if my team managed to swing the vote. They had several hours to do this and they failed to comply. We didn't have activity problems until that moment and it was only fitting to give it to the Town.

Now let's get something else straight:


I get why Inf. would be bitter. He made a great pawn. I understand why he cannot sleep at night over it, hence his resentment. You got played brother. Move on.

As for your last comment. I’m not the one who comes up with these silly ideas for games. If the hosts are going to add silly roles to make their games different, good for them. But, like I said to everyone I ever played with. I will exploit them to gain my side an advantage and usually I will ask the admins prior to proceeding including you Qatol. The game I was GF I basically told you my every move. As for pry, he can go fuck himself because from what I recall he's a tool.

The biggest problem with most of the games here is activity. When I play I'm right up there with the most active. I do a lot behind the scenes and if you don't like being called out then tough.

GG

EDIT: I love how you took everything out of context Qatol. GJ


I was going to call the game in your favor because you had won mathematically if you managed to swing that vote. No point in playing it out if one side cannot win.

How did I take "everything out of context?" I agree you had a bunch of posts complaining about inactivity in the smurf game, but I specifically put in that quote from layoffrage in order to give those quotes context. Try reading the last day or 2 of the smurf game. It basically consists of you either A) complaining about inactivity, B) flaming, or C) bragging.

EDIT:
Either way, I'm done with this. I've explained why you were banned, and you obviously don't feel bad at all about the worst reason in my view (flaming the host), so I have no problem sticking with the consensus and keeping you on this list. While I agree you are consistently one of the most active players, some things are more important than activity.
Last edit: 2010-03-05 05:19:55
Uff Da
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  bEsT[Alive]   March 05 2010 05:20. Posts 606Profile # 
In addition, if I recall correctly you said something like, "I cannot believe how bad everyone is playing." You lost interest hosting yourself and I wanted to relieve you of your duties. I don't remember how many Townies were left. It was all in good fun.

Pry shouldn't be hosting anything I'm afraid. The only thing I can remember from that game is his idiocy.

You guys should keep it simple. The mini mafia games work, the other games unfortunately don't. The biggest problem you guys face playing mafia on TL right now is activity. It's almost impossible for everyone to hang around for a month and take an active role.

GL

P.S. Respect is earned not given. If you are going to host a mafia game then you better do it right.
Last edit: 2010-03-05 05:25:22
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 Ace   United States. March 05 2010 05:37. Posts 13504
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As much as I hate Showtime at times (he's still pretty bad) I agree that MM type games (small games) are the way to go.

Too bad he's banned so I can't play against him and mindfuck him :/
No sir I fully get it, however unless I can unlaunch my nuke there is not much we can do about it. I also wasn't posting as much because I didn't fully read the rules yet LOL! - RebirthofLegend in WaW Mafia
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  bEsT[Alive]   March 05 2010 05:44. Posts 606Profile # 
Yes, I'm a bad boy Ace and I need a spanking. It's at the discretion of the host. I'm sure a few people would let me in their games, but I don't plan on playing any Mafia games here anytime soon.

Me signing up for Incog's game was a stretch. A few people have been hounding me to come back, but I just don't have the time to.

Anyway, I don't see how you could comment on my play style when I've only played with you once and that was to get my feet warm (being the sacrificial lamb was fun).

Never say never. I look forward to the mind fuck. That would be good fun. I'm too used to being the puppet master though and unless it's another smurf game, I doubt that would ever happen. :D
Last edit: 2010-03-05 05:44:51
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 Ace   United States. March 05 2010 05:52. Posts 13504
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damnit :/

Well I guess you can just wait 3 games? ^_^

Need more people that are down for mind games and not this clue stuff :/
No sir I fully get it, however unless I can unlaunch my nuke there is not much we can do about it. I also wasn't posting as much because I didn't fully read the rules yet LOL! - RebirthofLegend in WaW Mafia
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