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Can you tell which zealot belongs to which side?
SC2 has gone backwards with respect to coloring. Forget micro/macro, politics between Kespa vs Blizzard, and other issues that could kill SC2 as a spectator sport. The difficulty in differentiating sides because SC2 coloring sucks will kill SC2 as a spectator sport!
My zealots and the opponent zealots look almost identical. How are people supposed to micro when they can't pick out their own units? If I can't tell the difference between units and I'm the one playing, how does Blizzard expect spectators to differentiate the units when their streams have lower resolution?
Edit: I've started a thread about this in the Blizzard SC2 Beta forums. If you're in Beta, please bump this thread so Blizzard does something about it:
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23425469959&postId=234233734774&sid=5000#3
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23425469994&sid=5000
Unlike many casual SC2 beta players, we in TeamLiquid care about the future of SC2 as a spectator sport.
Edit2: Here is the full resolution version:
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9299/badcolors2.jpg
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Yea this looks really bad from a spectators point of view. Obviously playing would be a bit different, but still kinda annoying.
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On March 07 2010 05:43 NrG.NeverExpo wrote: Yea this looks really bad from a spectators point of view. Obviously playing would be a bit different, but still kinda annoying.
No, I was the one playing, lol. It is very bad when you play - they need to fix this.
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100% agree tbh, but the same thing happens in sc1 when we have yellow protoss vs white protoss. Hopefully you can change colors when spectating so you get two distinct colors.
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I've thought of this many times, it's such an obvious problem I don't see how they won't fix it.
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If unit coloring is the biggest hurdle for SC2 being a prime spectator sport then I am sure blizzard is quite pleased with themselves.
I can't imagine that is too hard to fix.
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Or play with lowest graphic settings. More BW feel, and much clearer and easier to distinguish stuff
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On March 07 2010 05:44 Nightmarjoo wrote: Zoom in!
Zoom in what? I was playing at 1680 x 1050 resolution, and the colors are indistiguishable.
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On March 07 2010 05:45 petered wrote: If unit coloring is the biggest hurdle between SC2 and being a prime spectator sport then I am sure blizzard is quite pleased with themselves. This. And if you turn it to low graphic settings (probably more practical for playing, rather than looking), everything is easy to distinguish.
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On March 07 2010 05:46 StarcraftMan wrote:Zoom in what? I was playing at 1680 x 1050 resolution, and the colors are indistiguishable. Use your mouse scroll wheel to zoom in! It's like wc3.
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On March 07 2010 05:44 StarcraftMan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2010 05:43 NrG.NeverExpo wrote: Yea this looks really bad from a spectators point of view. Obviously playing would be a bit different, but still kinda annoying. No, I was the one playing, lol. It is very bad when you play - they need to fix this. I know you were the one playing, i was saying from my view it is retarded, and from yours its kind of annoying also.
You can select your units while you're playing to find out which ones are yours, as a spectator i wouldn't be able to tell whos units are who's until they are all dead lol
This just adds to the big-ball-mess battles that seem too common in sc2. No one can tell wtf is going on until the fight is over!
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in terms of playing the game i just raised the gamma a little and its k but in terms of spectating this is going to be a huge issue in terms of the quality and how its set up.
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Strange, why aren't the zealot's psi blades using team colors in that picture? In my experience they do... is that a bug?
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Colors are too bland and hard to distinguish yes.
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In BW lings were basically YOUR color with some outlines. In SC2 lings all look the same save for a little highlight or detail with your color.
This trend has kind of followed all around SC2 =(
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On March 07 2010 05:54 Inschato wrote: Strange, why aren't the zealot's psi blades using team colors in that picture? In my experience they do... is that a bug?
Yes, in reality Zealots have huge Player-colored glow on their psi blades that makes it really easy to tell which is which. I don't know why they don't have it in that shot.
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I could tell pretty easy..
But still, teamgames are for nubs/casuals I guess so this thing will never happen in 1on1.
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i have exactly the same problem. in PvP games i often dont know which zealot is mine, the shitty effects and the slow mouse do the rest...
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Pretty sure you can change your color in game just like in sc1. Always switch the color scheme if your worried about it--Although this doesn't work for replays yet.
On just the color issue, I had hoped that SC2 would learn from Warhammer and allow real control of unit colors (and decals) so each player could get known by their schemes. Just having the standard yellows and pinks is disappointing and many units come off odd because of their normal colors overwhelming the player color.
I hope they add more customizability with time.
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