this thread is funny to read. i mean all this "he is a god" posts and on the other site all the "he is a sucky random cheeser with no mechanics" posts. moar plx!^^
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3FFA United States. March 28 2010 08:07. Posts 2649
On March 28 2010 07:10 APurpleCow wrote: I agree 100% with NoNy and LF9. He is a rather creative player, but he doesn't seem to understand the game very well nor does he seem to be solid.
NoNy never said that lol, he just stated that he felt that the winner should get more attention then #1
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kickinhead Switzerland. March 28 2010 08:16. Posts 2056
On March 28 2010 08:07 3FFA wrote: White_Ra IS AWESOME! TLO= creative player but White_Ra is my hero(always has been and always will be)
Yeah; I'm also more of a fan of solid mechanical play that can also be spiced up with some nice creative stuff and White_Ra really figured out some pretty solid builds that don't die to cheese and give you a great opportunity to experiment with different follow-up's.
It's just really amazing to see how well he does when he got his solid Builds figured out.
But as said before: I think creative players are not bound to be bad at mechanics and just good with cheeses and TLO seems to be one of the players that, at least in this early stage of the game, are on top with mechanics and creative play, but White_Ra is just someone that can handle all sorts of situations. He's creative in a defensive way, like Day[9] said about how winning isn't everything, it's also important to not loose. This kind of creativity is maybe not so amazing to watch as the Games of TLO, but it's pretty impressive as well.
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On_Slaught United States. March 28 2010 08:18. Posts 7833
On March 28 2010 08:04 MeProU_Kor wrote: this thread is funny to read. i mean all this "he is a god" posts and on the other site all the "he is a sucky random cheeser with no mechanics" posts. moar plx!^^
They are just butt-hurt that SC2 already has an Upmagic in beta!
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On March 28 2010 06:53 Jibba wrote: 1. Relative unknown 2. Comes from "lesser" game 3. Unorthodox strategies and build orders 4. Aggressive tactics and harassment 5. Ballsy (if dangerous, irrational, etc.) decisions
On March 28 2010 04:27 ret wrote: actually, his idea was very good, just not perfected, which might have to do w/ the fact he plays all 3 races, i agree w/ day
anyone can make these weird gameplans that could theoretically work. genius is knowing how and why they work against any response the opponent can do. to see a gameplan fail so hard against a super simple and obvious response of 3gate, which he even scouted as it happened, shows some horrible thinking...
Clearly he's not the best overall player and he made a few bad calls, but he's the most fun to watch for many of us. Why are you asking us to justify anything beyond that? This concept should be painfully obvious, especially during March Madness.
I don't think anyone in this thread is saying anything else. People started a thread saying they liked this new player the had found. They liked watching him play and they liked his style. Then someone came along and started flaming him and flaming Nazgul (The random TL mod who unlike Incontrol deserves no respect since he has no Starcraft merits.)
3FFA United States. March 28 2010 08:23. Posts 2649
On March 28 2010 08:07 3FFA wrote: White_Ra IS AWESOME! TLO= creative player but White_Ra is my hero(always has been and always will be)
Yeah; I'm also more of a fan of solid mechanical play that can also be spiced up with some nice creative stuff and White_Ra really figured out some pretty solid builds that don't die to cheese and give you a great opportunity to experiment with different follow-up's.
It's just really amazing to see how well he does when he got his solid Builds figured out.
But as said before: I think creative players are not bound to be bad at mechanics and just good with cheeses and TLO seems to be one of the players that, at least in this early stage of the game, are on top with mechanics and creative play, but White_Ra is just someone that can handle all sorts of situations. He's creative in a defensive way, like Day[9] said about how winning isn't everything, it's also important to not loose. This kind of creativity is maybe not so amazing to watch as the Games of TLO, but it's pretty impressive as well.
exactly! I'm pretty creative myself but I think that TLO just played SCI and then when he got SCII beta he just experimented as much as possible with everything he could(I would do the same) and went random so he could do it every single game and his strategies would be more effective.
White_Ra is great mechanically and knows how to make a great BO and understands a lot of SCII beta. I'm sure he also knows most of the same stuff TLO knows and because of that he was able to counter the strategies TLO used. He also had to look at every cheese and unusual strategy he could think of that could counter his BOs, because of this he has both great game sense and great mechanics.
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Liquid`Jinro Sweden. March 28 2010 08:26. Posts 32587
On March 28 2010 06:22 beetlelisk wrote: Keep up with great job TLO
On March 28 2010 05:06 {88}iNcontroL wrote: he played a really fun style a couple of games and he showed some nice victories vs demuslim etc.. but I'm not sure why he is stealing the spotlight from whitera who dropped a single game the entire tourney
AND WON THE TOURNEY BTW
I don't understand your reaction here and in the live thread at all. Elaborate please.
Attitude? my post is attitude free bud. Just saying, the winner of the tourney is having his thunder stolen by the loser.. what is to not understand?
I think this thread is a lost cause - it seems infiltrated by hopeless fanboys eager to jump on anything nicks brother says.
I respect InControl because he has some serious accomplishments under his belt in the RTS world. The rest of you can shut the hell up because you don't know what you're talking about at all.
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike.
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Thegilaboy United States. March 28 2010 08:30. Posts 2016
I think all this hype shouldn't be taken too serious: PPL are just thrilled to see some very interesting games and get pumped up and stuff, there's really no need to be a buzzkill here or think everyone in this thread thinks TLO is the greatest thing since diapers for seniors... -.-°
It's just fun and if you think TLO doesn't deserve this hype, then don't buy into it, but don't drag everyone else down...
On March 28 2010 05:06 {88}iNcontroL wrote: he played a really fun style a couple of games and he showed some nice victories vs demuslim etc.. but I'm not sure why he is stealing the spotlight from whitera who dropped a single game the entire tourney
AND WON THE TOURNEY BTW
White-Ra is totally awesome.
I think it's just people beeing impressed by:
- He plays random - He makes new, unorthodox strategys work against top players - He wasn't well known until now
yes
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On March 28 2010 06:53 Jibba wrote: 1. Relative unknown 2. Comes from "lesser" game 3. Unorthodox strategies and build orders 4. Aggressive tactics and harassment 5. Ballsy (if dangerous, irrational, etc.) decisions
Like Nony said in the other thread:
On March 28 2010 04:31 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On March 28 2010 04:27 ret wrote: actually, his idea was very good, just not perfected, which might have to do w/ the fact he plays all 3 races, i agree w/ day
anyone can make these weird gameplans that could theoretically work. genius is knowing how and why they work against any response the opponent can do. to see a gameplan fail so hard against a super simple and obvious response of 3gate, which he even scouted as it happened, shows some horrible thinking...
Clearly he's not the best overall player and he made a few bad calls, but he's the most fun to watch for many of us. Why are you asking us to justify anything beyond that? This concept should be painfully obvious, especially during March Madness.
I don't think anyone in this thread is saying anything else. People started a thread saying they liked this new player the had found. They liked watching him play and they liked his style. Then someone came along and started flaming him and flaming Nazgul (The random TL mod who unlike Incontrol deserves no respect since he has no Starcraft merits.)
I was explaining why we like him to LF9 and Inc. I agree with you!
We are spectators and we want show, we will know who played best but we will cheer the one who threw more nukes
It's just a way it is. No one said anything against WhiteRa, he dominated through whole tournament and won it. Everyone will say he was the best, but that doesn't mean that some other player didn't play some great games. Not everyone has to cheer for a winner, especially if someone makes few really fun games + he isn't well known. imho tlo completely deserves his fame, as does WhiteRa, it's just we all know that WhiteRa ownz, we don't have to repeat it every time (:
On March 28 2010 06:53 Jibba wrote: 1. Relative unknown 2. Comes from "lesser" game 3. Unorthodox strategies and build orders 4. Aggressive tactics and harassment 5. Ballsy (if dangerous, irrational, etc.) decisions
Like Nony said in the other thread:
On March 28 2010 04:31 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On March 28 2010 04:27 ret wrote: actually, his idea was very good, just not perfected, which might have to do w/ the fact he plays all 3 races, i agree w/ day
anyone can make these weird gameplans that could theoretically work. genius is knowing how and why they work against any response the opponent can do. to see a gameplan fail so hard against a super simple and obvious response of 3gate, which he even scouted as it happened, shows some horrible thinking...
Clearly he's not the best overall player and he made a few bad calls, but he's the most fun to watch for many of us. Why are you asking us to justify anything beyond that? This concept should be painfully obvious, especially during March Madness.
I don't think anyone in this thread is saying anything else. People started a thread saying they liked this new player the had found. They liked watching him play and they liked his style. Then someone came along and started flaming him and flaming Nazgul (The random TL mod who unlike Incontrol deserves no respect since he has no Starcraft merits.)
I was explaining why we like him to LF9 and Inc. I agree with you!
Oh sorry. Completely misunderstood your post
rei United States. March 28 2010 09:13. Posts 2905
On March 28 2010 06:22 beetlelisk wrote: Keep up with great job TLO
On March 28 2010 05:06 {88}iNcontroL wrote: he played a really fun style a couple of games and he showed some nice victories vs demuslim etc.. but I'm not sure why he is stealing the spotlight from whitera who dropped a single game the entire tourney
AND WON THE TOURNEY BTW
I don't understand your reaction here and in the live thread at all. Elaborate please.
Attitude? my post is attitude free bud. Just saying, the winner of the tourney is having his thunder stolen by the loser.. what is to not understand?
I think this thread is a lost cause - it seems infiltrated by hopeless fanboys eager to jump on anything nicks brother says.
I respect InControl because he has some serious accomplishments under his belt in the RTS world. The rest of you can shut the hell up because you don't know what you're talking about at all.
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike.
By "Incontrol's serious accomplishments?" did he mean this?
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mangomango United States. March 28 2010 09:31. Posts 246
Unfreaken' real. The feed went out on the stream at the same time the nuke hit. Unreal... This was the best SC2 play I've seen to date. And Day9 took it too even higher heights. Well played everyone and thank you.
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What a tough road to the finals for TheLittleOne, he's such an awsome player, and even tho he didn't win, it doesn't even matter because he showed us his outstanding performance .
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