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Both the Bold CM set with Max HP/Def/Leftovers and something along the lines of CM/Recover/Psychic (or Psycho Shock)/Shadow Ball (or HP Fighting or whatever for coverage), as well as the LO Trick Room Sweeper set are very effective.

OMFG Reuniclus is the gayest bulky sweeper ever. TTar crunch doesn't OHKO, HP fighting + stab psychic + shadow ball + RECOVER = CANNOT BE BEATEN.

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Phrost United States. March 14 2011 01:49. Posts 2671

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So does anyone else think that Darmanitan could be some rediculous sweeper?
With sheer force and his naturally high attack and belly drum I'm like 1 shotting most pokemon with non-super effective physical fire attacks in the rain =/

With a life orb he can atleast trade with someone with flame charge or whatever that recoil fire attack is because it has 120 base and has a chance to burn so it gets increased by sheer force

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synapse China. March 14 2011 01:58. Posts 6887

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On March 14 2011 01:49 Phrost wrote:
So does anyone else think that Darmanitan could be some rediculous sweeper?
With sheer force and his naturally high attack and belly drum I'm like 1 shotting most pokemon with non-super effective physical fire attacks in the rain =/

With a life orb he can atleast trade with someone with flame charge or whatever that recoil fire attack is because it has 120 base and has a chance to burn so it gets increased by sheer force

Only if you pass some sort of speed boost onto him... and even then, its defenses are a little too weak. 140 base attack is indeed extremely high, but 55 in both defenses (even with the relatively high hp) means that a priority move from another high-attack pokemon will 1-hit or 2-hit it, especially since you're not gonna be putting EVs into defenses. 95 speed isn't bad, but it isn't good either - there are plenty of 110 speed scarfers out there, and they will kill you before you get to make a move.

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TALegion United States. March 14 2011 02:28. Posts 1126

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On March 13 2011 17:59 Pvvned wrote:

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Audino grinding

I'm trying to get all of my guys to 60 (my friend and I are having an arranged only-60's battle). Are there any audino's high enough level that I could grind them?

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synapse China. March 14 2011 02:32. Posts 6887

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On March 14 2011 02:28 TALegion wrote:

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I'm trying to get all of my guys to 60 (my friend and I are having an arranged only-60's battle). Are there any audino's high enough level that I could grind them?

The shaking grass patches in the routes post-E4 have mostly audino's (~lvl 50) from my experience, sometimes wigglytuff. Regardless, lucky egg + lvl 50-60 wild pokemon = fast grinding to lvl 60.

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Ferrose United States. March 14 2011 02:45. Posts 7985

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On March 14 2011 02:28 TALegion wrote:

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I'm trying to get all of my guys to 60 (my friend and I are having an arranged only-60's battle). Are there any audino's high enough level that I could grind them?

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Magashi United States. March 14 2011 04:18. Posts 127

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Hello, I have a few questions. I havent played Pokemon in quite awhile, and I was thinking of getting back into it as I now have some free time.

First question: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl , HeartGold/SoulSilver , Black/White are they all the same game, but just added areas? What I mean is, the area of these games are based on regions right? So would Pokemon Black/White have the same regions as Pokemon Diamond/Pearl plus new regions? Or are they all different in areas? Hope this question is clear.

Second question: If they are all different games, should I start with Diamond/Pearl before i play Black/White?

Thanks!

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Insanious Canada. March 14 2011 04:24. Posts 1241

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On March 14 2011 04:18 Magashi wrote:
Hello, I have a few questions. I havent played Pokemon in quite awhile, and I was thinking of getting back into it as I now have some free time.

First question: Pokemon Diamond/Pearl , HeartGold/SoulSilver , Black/White are they all the same game, but just added areas? What I mean is, the area of these games are based on regions right? So would Pokemon Black/White have the same regions as Pokemon Diamond/Pearl plus new regions? Or are they all different in areas? Hope this question is clear.

Second question: If they are all different games, should I start with Diamond/Pearl before i play Black/White?

Thanks!

all are different areas with different pokemon for the most part...

Diamond/Pearl = sinnoh
HG/SS = kanto/johto
Black/White = Unova

As well, the stories DO NOT go together... i believe that its

gen 1 and gen 3 = same time
gen 2 and gen 4 = same time
gen 5 = years after gen 4

so the stories in the games have nothing to do with each other.

I would recommend going with Black/White simply due to:

1) You have A LOT of pokemon in these games (the ones from gen 5 + a lot from gens 1 - 4)
2) You have the most up-to-date moves (moves were changed)
3) It is one of the more difficult and more fun pokemon games released

The other option would be HG/SS for

1) has almost ALL pokes from gen 1 - 4
2) Arguably the BEST pokemon game period

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Kind of hard to choose between those two, but black/white simply bring new things like dreamworld and reusable TMs which I like a lot.

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No. D/P/Pt takes place in a region called Sinnoh. HG/SS are remakes of G/S/C, which take place in Johto and Kanto. B/W take place in a totally new region called Unova, which is apparently so far away from the other ones that none of the older Pokemon live there.

You don't need to worry about order. The stories of the games aren't bridged (they kind of are in the first and second gens, but it really doesn't matter), but it's not like anyone plays Pokemon for the deep, engaging storylines lol.

Edit: And IMO, the best Pokemon games for me is between HG/SS and Platinum. B/W are really good too.

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Magashi United States. March 14 2011 04:39. Posts 127

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Great, Thanks for the excellent and quick replies. I understand it all now

I did not know about Platinum, is that an upgraded version of D/P?

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Ferrose United States. March 14 2011 04:44. Posts 7985

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On March 14 2011 04:39 Magashi wrote:
Great, Thanks for the excellent and quick replies. I understand it all now

I did not know about Platinum, is that an upgraded version of D/P?

Yes, they always release some expansion version like a year later. My guess is that gen V will have Pokemon Gray or something. Idk what they will do for it though.

In Platinum, they added like 50 Pokemon to the regional Pokedex (mainly just the pre-evolutions of the Pokemon that got a new evolution in gen IV, but also some more. For instance, they made Houndoom catchable since gen IV's original Pokedex had like no good Fire types besides Infernape, maybe Rapidash), along with a bunch more endgame content and a new area or two IIRC.

Additionally, the expansion version is usually about a different legendary Pokemon. For example, Diamond and Pearl were about Dialga and Palkia respectively, and eventually you got a chance to catch them. In Platinum you got a chance to catch Giratina instead, in some new area called the Distortion World.

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On March 14 2011 04:39 Magashi wrote:
Great, Thanks for the excellent and quick replies. I understand it all now

I did not know about Platinum, is that an upgraded version of D/P?

yes, it's the third game of gen IV, each gen has three games.

Damn, too slow

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Ferrose United States. March 14 2011 04:48. Posts 7985

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I hope that the Gray version will be about Genosect. That thing is fucking badass.

My guess is Meloetta though, since the last Pokemon in the list is usually event only, like Mew, Celebi, Deoxys, and Arceus.

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Brees Marshall Islands. March 14 2011 04:51. Posts 2282

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anyone that can explain what dream world will be when it comes out?

Brees on in

redFF United States. March 14 2011 05:04. Posts 3889

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On March 14 2011 04:39 Magashi wrote:
Great, Thanks for the excellent and quick replies. I understand it all now

I did not know about Platinum, is that an upgraded version of D/P?

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TALegion United States. March 14 2011 05:14. Posts 1126

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On March 14 2011 04:48 Ferrose wrote:
I hope that the Gray version will be about Genosect. That thing is fucking badass.

My guess is Meloetta though, since the last Pokemon in the list is usually event only, like Mew, Celebi, Deoxys, and Arceus.

It'll prolly be about Kyurem, or whatever it's called (sorry, just woke up and I'm lazy...). If there're two main pokemon, and a mutual one in between (Groudon/Kyogre/Raquaza, Dialga/Palkia/Giratina), the third will prolly be about the neutral one.
I hope it isn't though, cause I like Meloetta. Switching between a special wall and a physical sweeper? Psychic and Fighting (my two favorite types)? An overall cool looking pokemon? Pure Awesometacity in my book.

But cyber-scizor (Genosect) is pretty cool too.

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Ferrose United States. March 14 2011 05:16. Posts 7985

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I can't get a Sawk to appear outside of Pinwheel Forest in Black

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synapse China. March 14 2011 05:21. Posts 6887

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On March 14 2011 05:16 Ferrose wrote:
I can't get a Sawk to appear outside of Pinwheel Forest in Black

The patches to the west of Black City seem to give me Sawk ~15-20% of the time, have you tried there? (at the very bottom, theres a small staircase that leads up the the TM for venoshock, that's where i was training before)

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Ferrose United States. March 14 2011 05:22. Posts 7985

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On March 14 2011 05:21 synapse wrote:

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Well, I'm still at the beginning. I'm trying to find one for the second gym lol.

Edit: Finally got one to appear. Took like eighty encounters -_-

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Phrost United States. March 14 2011 06:23. Posts 2671

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I'm playing on my computer and streaming pokemon white if anyone is bored and interested:

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