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 PanzerDragoon United States. April 14 2010 14:58. Posts 822 | Profile # |
On April 14 2010 07:46 Rekrul wrote:
massive coverup underway now, the power of top companies as sponsors is very strong
perhaps for the better of esports...
from here on out i'm done with this issue on tl.net
i've gone rogue
until next time
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dude, fuck Kespa, fuck the proleague teams, fuck everyone involved
i'm done with this shit |
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| robopork United States. April 14 2010 15:00. Posts 277 | Profile Blog # |
On April 14 2010 13:09 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 07:46 Rekrul wrote:
massive coverup underway now, the power of top companies as sponsors is very strong
perhaps for the better of esports...
from here on out i'm done with this issue on tl.net
i've gone rogue
until next time
^^
how much did he get bribed?! scandallllllll
I see a silver-lining in a cover-up (which probably makes me a disgusting human being), not because there aren't huge ethical issues with match rigging, but because more than anything I want the scene to survive. I'd rather weather the storm and see what comes of the efforts to clean it up and if Korea will keep the scene and, for my part, refrain from denouncing it before
a) anything official has been released as far as who was involved
b) the Korean fan-base pulls the plug
In reality, I'm just freaked out that brood war might come to a premature end. I really think this needs cleaning, but to the few I've heard threaten to renounce interest this early on, understand that if the scandals details become official and the scene dies, you'd be at the chopping block right behind the incriminated coaches and progamers. In any event, if we care about this game and the pro brood war scene, we should save the rash comments until after the facts are stated as such.Last edit: 2010-04-14 15:01:26 |
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| PanzerDragoon United States. April 14 2010 15:02. Posts 822 | Profile # |
On April 14 2010 12:42 eXNewB wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 12:36 Gnabgib wrote:
On April 14 2010 12:33 gen.Sun wrote:
It would fix everything. Make betting legal, take a large cut of winnings, give that to the player for winning, all you have to do is ensure that the player's cut is larger than the amount he could likely make by losing.
What's to stop them from betting against themselves?
Making the prize money / fame for actually winning much more than what would be won off the betting on himself losing. Legal betting wouldn't work in starcraft just for that reason. Think about Boxing and why it's legal for betting in that sport
Its only legal in Vegas and other places with legal sports books, just like any other betting activity. |
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| ForTheSwarm United States. April 14 2010 15:13. Posts 556 | Profile Blog # |
Sad day for ESPORTS...
Maybe a sad decade, who knows....
WAAAAAAAA T_______________T |
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| Apex United States. April 14 2010 15:16. Posts 3614 | Profile Blog # |
On April 14 2010 14:58 PanzerDragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 07:46 Rekrul wrote:
massive coverup underway now, the power of top companies as sponsors is very strong
perhaps for the better of esports...
from here on out i'm done with this issue on tl.net
i've gone rogue
until next time
^^
dude, fuck Kespa, fuck the proleague teams, fuck everyone involved i'm done with this shit
Gah corporate cover-ups. The information is already out there though. Now rather than silencing the informants, they have to play damage control. At least that much, I would guess is good...or rather bad, depending on how one sees it. |
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| _awake_ April 14 2010 15:18. Posts 196 | Profile # |
On April 14 2010 08:56 bias- wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 07:46 Rekrul wrote:
massive coverup underway now, the power of top companies as sponsors is very strong
perhaps for the better of esports...
from here on out i'm done with this issue on tl.net
i've gone rogue
until next time
^^
After this, I've stopped watching all professional BW in Korea. How much time have I wasted watching people lead me on, thinking I was watching SC at its best. So many people involved and nothing done until now. And it's being covered up? I want a full list of names and matches, or I'm done.
keep QQing whenever you don't get what you want
i, on the other hand, am more interested in the BW scene than ever. drama isn't always a bad thing 
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| theramstoss Canada. April 14 2010 16:03. Posts 242 | Profile # |
On April 14 2010 14:58 PanzerDragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 07:46 Rekrul wrote:
massive coverup underway now, the power of top companies as sponsors is very strong
perhaps for the better of esports...
from here on out i'm done with this issue on tl.net
i've gone rogue
until next time
^^
dude, fuck Kespa, fuck the proleague teams, fuck everyone involved i'm done with this shit
I know exactly how you feel. |
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| traced April 14 2010 16:15. Posts 1714 | Profile # |
sometimes i envision this moment:
my father's glazed eyes fixed upon me, and i can tell he's searching for the words, somewhere, until his voices escapes,
"...I'm...I'm not angry. I'm just unbelievably disappointed. You don't know how much you've let me down." |
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| cz United States. April 14 2010 16:37. Posts 3213 | Profile Blog # |
On April 14 2010 16:15 traced wrote:
sometimes i envision this moment:
my father's glazed eyes fixed upon me, and i can tell he's searching for the words, somewhere, until his voices escapes,
"...I'm...I'm not angry. I'm just unbelievably disappointed. You don't know how much you've let me down."
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?! |
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| cz United States. April 14 2010 16:38. Posts 3213 | Profile Blog # |
On April 14 2010 15:18 _awake_ wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 08:56 bias- wrote:
On April 14 2010 07:46 Rekrul wrote:
massive coverup underway now, the power of top companies as sponsors is very strong
perhaps for the better of esports...
from here on out i'm done with this issue on tl.net
i've gone rogue
until next time
^^
After this, I've stopped watching all professional BW in Korea. How much time have I wasted watching people lead me on, thinking I was watching SC at its best. So many people involved and nothing done until now. And it's being covered up? I want a full list of names and matches, or I'm done.
keep QQing whenever you don't get what you want i, on the other hand, am more interested in the BW scene than ever. drama isn't always a bad thing
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| nimoraca Serbia. April 14 2010 16:41. Posts 84 | Profile # |
| For all of you saying that this might be the end of BW, well I have bad news for all of you. This might be the end of progaming in Korea. Why would people just start watching SC2 progaming with potentially a lot of cheating players from BW playing it. What can possibly change by changing the game or changing the organizer of all this (from KeSPA to Blizzard). Like players would suddenly stop cheating. You also cannot solve the problem by giving players larger salaries (though you can improve the situation). For larger salaries you have to have larger audience, and with larger audience comes more betting, and larger bribes. The only thing you can really do is punish the involved players harshly so others would think twice before doing the same. I really believe that this is the only possible solution if you want to save the progaming scene in Korea, and I dont say BW scene, cause the game has nothing to do with cheating. |
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| IaniAniaN Canada. April 14 2010 17:24. Posts 555 | Profile # |
| Seriously, this isn't the first time cheating has hit BW or pro gaming in general, they'll just be more careful and make the players more aware of the punishment they'll receive. |
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Fenrax  United States. April 14 2010 17:24. Posts 4993 | Profile Blog # |
On April 14 2010 07:46 Rekrul wrote:
massive coverup underway now, the power of top companies as sponsors is very strong
perhaps for the better of esports...
from here on out i'm done with this issue on tl.net
i've gone rogue
until next time
^^
Thanks a lot Rekrul, you rock. And no, if the conspirators win it would not be for the better of anything, but you probably know that. Screwing up partisanship and corruption is a good thing by default and if a tower falls it can always be rebuilt. So if you know anything more it would be appreciated if you tell us. |
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| bias- United States. April 14 2010 17:26. Posts 401 | Profile # |
On April 14 2010 15:18 _awake_ wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 08:56 bias- wrote:
On April 14 2010 07:46 Rekrul wrote:
massive coverup underway now, the power of top companies as sponsors is very strong
perhaps for the better of esports...
from here on out i'm done with this issue on tl.net
i've gone rogue
until next time
^^
After this, I've stopped watching all professional BW in Korea. How much time have I wasted watching people lead me on, thinking I was watching SC at its best. So many people involved and nothing done until now. And it's being covered up? I want a full list of names and matches, or I'm done.
keep QQing whenever you don't get what you want i, on the other hand, am more interested in the BW scene than ever. drama isn't always a bad thing
Yeah, so am I. Notice I said watching professional BW in Korea. VODs. Different from being on TL and keeping up with the news... I'll watch hyungjoon, nal_ra oldboy series, etc. Just not my favorite teams playing like I used to. Maybe Flash's games, that's it. |
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| opsayo April 14 2010 17:30. Posts 543 | Profile Blog # |
On April 14 2010 08:56 bias- wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 07:46 Rekrul wrote:
massive coverup underway now, the power of top companies as sponsors is very strong
perhaps for the better of esports...
from here on out i'm done with this issue on tl.net
i've gone rogue
until next time
^^
After this, I've stopped watching all professional BW in Korea. How much time have I wasted watching people lead me on, thinking I was watching SC at its best. So many people involved and nothing done until now. And it's being covered up? I want a full list of names and matches, or I'm done.
i'm sure all those koreans will miss not knowing you and your non-contribution |
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| hitthat Poland. April 14 2010 17:32. Posts 1479 | Profile # |
I
CANNOT
FUCKING
BELIEVE
THIS.
Savior? JD?? Fanta??? BISU???? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Who the hell cares about the end of the world? Bring it fuckin' on!
This is much, much worse than any fucking apocalypse...one brigh side of life now gone.Last edit: 2010-04-14 17:56:34 |
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| unionbank Australia. April 14 2010 17:37. Posts 523 | Profile Blog # |
| you're all acting as if 2012 is the end of the world... relax homies |
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| We Are Here April 14 2010 17:47. Posts 1732 | Profile Blog # |
On April 14 2010 17:37 unionbank wrote:
you're all acting as if 2012 is the end of the world... relax homies
hahaha
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| omninmo April 14 2010 17:57. Posts 2349 | Profile Blog # |
On April 14 2010 17:32 hitthat wrote:
I
CANNOT
FUCKING
BELIEVE
THIS.
Savior? JD?? Fanta??? BISU???? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Who the hell cares about the end of the world? Bring it fuckin' on!
This is much, much worse than any fucking apocalypse...one brigh side of life now gone.
why can't you believe this? they are all immature children who were offered lots and lots of money to do something easy. you think bisu cares about anyone but himself? have you seen him in an interview. he plays with his hair and giggles most of the time- this is not someone who anyone should look up to for anything other than a good pvz build. Last edit: 2010-04-14 17:58:16 |
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| hitthat Poland. April 14 2010 18:05. Posts 1479 | Profile # |
True, but its hard to believe to so many bad, shocking news during one week. This is, actually, 4rd for me  Last edit: 2010-04-14 18:05:26 |
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