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Could people post their justifications here for voting, isntead of in the voting thread? Also, I don't how people serisouly discuted BM's assassin plan for 5+ pages. What's worth noting about assassins is that they need with the town, there's no better way to avoid lynching than being protown and those rolechecks can benefit us. | ||
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On April 19 2010 11:25 tree.hugger wrote: For all the talk earlier on about the role of assassins in the town, I think we need to understand that while assassin posting should aim towards prolonging the game; the town can't rely on the the assassins to act on the town's behalf. But here's something for dts to think about. If you role-check an assassin, you should definitely get in contact with them. Remember that: Which means that finding an assassin can help you find other townies with which you can begin to develop a town circle. Not only that, but since the assassin's objective has absolutely no bearing on the game as a whole, detectives should be able to work in a pro-town way with the assassin. Remember that assassin hits... ... don't count against the assassin's total if they correctly hit another assassin. Therefore, detectives should be able to, if you play your card right, get the assassin to take out some spare mafia as well. Therefore, DETECTIVES: A) Rolecheck an assassin B) Establish contact C) Establish quid-pro-quo D) Provide names, receive names E) Establish more contacts F) Order hits Objections to this plan? Except that's considering that the detective can PM assassins and vice-versa. Oh and Incognito playing is certainly gonna change a few things around | ||
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First of all, most of his earlier posts stand out on how much en always put emphasis that he's new/inexperienced/etc. Like Incognito said, this is a card played quite often by mafia players and town doing this is usually not happening. His earlier posts (bolding is mine): On April 18 2010 15:20 TheLardyGooser wrote: I knew Bill Murray was smart, but this plan seems fool proof. Being a fool and a total newwwb I can respect that. Altair, please leave me be when the night comes On April 19 2010 02:17 TheLardyGooser wrote: I still think BMs plan makes the most sense if I understand it right. I feel like it would put the mafia at a much bigger disadvantage but I am still new at this? On April 19 2010 08:05 TheLardyGooser wrote: I know its been shotgunned to death at this point, but I still feel like BM's plan, if not in terms of hunting down assassins, but rather in terms of a general role call. I am speaking from inexperience here, but aren't the mafia heavily outnumbered? Wouldn't a direct roll call at least be able to spread around some suspicion when we compare it to the number of each group? I feel like it would give us a pretty good start and at least let us have some idea of who to lay the hammer down on with our first lynch as there are bound to be some glaring inconsistancies. To me anyway, the discussion at this point seems to be people flaming each other back and forth, largely due to inactivity. Again, this is my first time, but it seems counter intuitive to just flame back and forth when at this point we don't really know anything? Lets make a plan! The plays the inexperienced by asking for "working strategies" On April 19 2010 09:31 TheLardyGooser wrote: I think I was misunderstood on the aspect of the BM plan I thought was a good idea. I know it won't work for getting rid of Assassins, (plus you more experienced guys seem to not view them as a threat) but at this point its the only thing out there besides the flame war between caller and nai, and random selection (which at this point is statistically more likely to kill a green than a red). Just an idea, but could some of you fire hardened TLers offer up some good day 1 town strategies that have performed well in the past? It might help to re-focus the debate somewhat On April 19 2010 12:22 TheLardyGooser wrote: I know this might seem counter-intuitive, but at this stage of the game with nothing but speculation, flames and no clues, taking a random shot at this point has a 79% of killing a villager. Added to that the only people being accused of being "scummy" at this point are just people who are acting like jerks, and it would be a huge mistake to potentially cut off someone who could be valuable just because of a bad attitude. I think Radfield is right in suggesting we go after inactives that won't get the mod hammer with our first lynch. That way regardless of whether we hit red or green, we will at least be narrowing down the field of players to those who will actually contribute and make the game more fun for everyone. For example, whether or not we may feel that Caller is being scummy, it is day 1 and none of us really have anything concrete to go on besides the fact we may disagree with him. I just feel like it would be a waste to make an unfounded accusation and get rid of someone who is at least contributing to the game at large. Just my two noob cents. So in this first posts the them is mostly that he's putting down some info and saying he's new and inexperienced, and throwing support at BM's strategy which isn't making any sense and that I think was mostly just some sort of weird trap from BM to see who would support it. Then quite later Incognito comes and tell how mafia would usually say that they are ineperienced and new and his analysis on Osmoses. Not many replies on this, then when TheLardyGooser comes again and posts he's now suddenly not inexperienced and he's "among the only ones making sense": On April 20 2010 02:49 TheLardyGooser wrote: I don`t really care to listen to the BW calls about the BM plan. I addressed this with a post a few pages back... I definetly misunderstood it at first, but I still feel it is best plan out there by virtue of the fact it is the only plan out there, so prove me wrong I implore you. At this point, all we have is a stupid witch hunt aimed with no evidence at people who are just being unpleasant. As it stands right now for all of the people except RoL that have multiple votes we have followed the same stupid formula. 1) They are inactive, we call them out 2) Flame war starts 3) Votes get cast If you were red wouldnt you maybe not want to be a huge dick to everyone and make them all look at you? I am sorry but our governing philosophy right now is, if the guys a dick he must be red. Out of the whole thread I feel like the only people that make any sense at this point (myself included) are Radfield, and IntotheWow. We are all dead men On April 20 2010 04:02 TheLardyGooser wrote: Reasons why this argument makes no sense: -Its really more of a consolidation of the current sentiment than a random ``lynch him`` -It is the first attempt since BM's assassins creed to do anything cooperatively but yell at each other -At this point there has been zero suspicion leveled at him, so why would he even try and redirect attention? -RoL is actually the least active player, and even if we mis-lynch him it has the pragmatic effect of a) killing a lurking red or b) getting rid of a towny who is not contributing, not going to contribute and just wasting space -Do you have a better idea? If so, lets hear it? Anyway I think there is no point for me voting for him right now so I'll still wait to see if I need to put down my vote on RoL (I think he's most likely to be scummy than BM, and also quite inactive) or if there is another lynching possibility going later. Also, where is Zona?? | ||
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On April 20 2010 04:25 Radfield wrote: Out of Jpak and RoL I think we should focus on Jpak, mostly because I fear RoL all of a sudden showing with a "so sorry guys, all this crazy stuff just happened and I haven't been able to post"(whether legit or not) and that it might split the vote back up given he's a veteren and all. Jpak has been around at least, but just not contributed a single thing. On April 20 2010 04:44 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: sorry for my inactivity, I am catching up right now. I am on page 18. I was working a lot all weekend. Lol | ||
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On April 20 2010 04:26 KF91 wrote: But I do have to agree with you about RoL. When I played with him in the Micro-Mafia, he was very active; and now, it honestly feels like he died or something O.o Also I'd like to point out that that game he was pretty inactive Day 1 and got a lot of suspicion. (and he was town) | ||
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On April 20 2010 06:14 Jugan wrote: You need 20 votes to lynch, and I'm not changing my vote. Also, I would like to thank you for going over older posts and answering questions addressed to you. Gah, it seems I misread the rule, I thought it meant we couldn't have ties. No way we're gonna get 20 votes... Still, very pro-town behavior you got there. | ||
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On April 20 2010 09:03 Jugan wrote: You fail to realize that I was correct on all but one mafia guess, and that it was I myself who convinced meeples and citi.zen that DrH along with mystlord and others were mafia. While you were busy in the kiddie pool trying to figure out how to play, I took the information Bill Murray passed along to me and won the game for the town. I also have records of private messages and MSN conversations to go along with it. Feel free to stop being an idiot. Thanks Hm. Don't push that too much. The convincing factor was the clue check on DrH which painted him as red. | ||
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Yes I stand corrected | ||
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Anyway, nice sidetracking of the town going right now >< | ||
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