| Musoeun United States. May 19 2010 00:12. Posts 4324 | Profile Blog # |
On May 18 2010 21:24 StylishVODs wrote:
Well I'm not sure you can pull mindgames in a bo1...
In a Bo5, it's mindgames. In a Bo1, it's cheese.  |
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| Jayme United States. May 19 2010 02:14. Posts 4921 | Profile Blog # |
On May 18 2010 21:08 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 18 2010 18:27 StylishVODs wrote:
After watching both of Flash's losses yesterday I'm not that worried about Flash.
It seems like he lost two games where he got really abysmal openings.
I don't want to take away anything from the winners, they played good. But as a terran myself I know how hard it is to win games after such openings. 1rax FE completely delayed and valk opening + first dropship sniped (by scourge ment for valk) is just really, really bad openings.
I'm sure Flash realized this even though he looked really dissapointed.
well both times CJ mindgames 2 - Flash 0 and in the finals against Movie Flash was behind in BOs all the time too. So if CJ manage to achieve the same feat in the finals again this will be a very hard fought golden mouse. No 3-0 rape at all. I am not saying Effort will beat Flash, just that Flash will surely have to spend his best builds against Effort which is going to leave him wide open for Calm/JD.
I dunno about that.
Flash has lately shown a scary ability to mind rape opponents in a Bo5. He's always been able to do this somewhat but his last Bo5's have shown just how much better he's gotten at it.
In that department Flash is second only to Jaedong...assuming his mind games aren't a "3 time fluke" |
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| DracoVolantus Poland. May 19 2010 03:14. Posts 218 | Profile # |
Flash should have never gone mech too..
Even on maps that favours this build -_-Last edit: 2010-05-19 03:15:57 |
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| pvzvt Israel. May 19 2010 05:35. Posts 2097 | Profile # |
On May 18 2010 22:57 TwoToneTerran wrote:
It was like the Hyun game. Opened up very well with an advantage, and played incredibly well to stop Flash from wresting it away from them with his nearly impeccable general skill. It's what separates Effort from, say, Kwanro, who had the exact same advantage one time and blew it away.
or kal if u disregard that its pvt instead of zvt
not diminishing kal's other skills just that his pvt isnt enough to beat flash even with a massive advantage |
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| protossfighter United States. May 19 2010 10:12. Posts 3 | Profile # |
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| darktreb United States. May 19 2010 11:10. Posts 2780 | Profile # |
On May 18 2010 21:24 StylishVODs wrote:
Well I'm not sure you can pull mindgames in a bo1...
Both effort and snow played very well indeed, it's going to be really hard to win both leagues. But after reading the live report threads and the "how to beat flash" thread without having seen the games I didn't get a clear view of what was really going on.
Now that I've watched the games I'm not at all surprised Flash lost those games.
I agree, they weren't really mind games. More like, "we know Flash likes to play this way on this map so let's hope that happens and prepare for it".
I wouldn't bet heavily on Flash going 1 Rax FE on Fighting in an OSL/MSL game, but for an ace match in PL (a game that isn't even guaranteed to occur and could be against an opponent of any race)? Seems like a good bet for his most likely build.
I fully expect Flash to come out guns blazing in the finals with some different builds, kind of like how he dominated the mind games against MVP and free. There'll be at least one cheese, with the most likely one being on Great Barrier Reef which is an OSL only map as well as a weird map in general. |
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| okum Austria. May 19 2010 14:24. Posts 5699 | Profile Blog # |
Next month's anti power rank:
1.  815
2. KillerLast edit: 2010-05-19 14:35:24 |
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| BobbYt3hBobbY May 19 2010 14:39. Posts 256 | Profile # | |
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| Gumbo Canada. May 19 2010 14:39. Posts 807 | Profile # |
On May 19 2010 14:24 okum wrote:Next month's anti power rank: 1. 8152. Killer
Nah just put every Oz player in it excluding Jaedong of course.
With Perfectman and Killer on top.
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| De4ngus United States. May 19 2010 16:07. Posts 4971 | Profile Blog # |
On May 19 2010 14:39 BobbYt3hBobbY wrote:Please don't forget  Lomo. So we get 1. 8152. Killer3. Lomo
+ Show Spoiler +Nah, Lomo didn't fail as hard as the other two, who had free wins. |
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| Vasoline73 United States. May 19 2010 18:18. Posts 6942 | Profile Blog # |
815's game today was so horrible.
When the dropship left Classic's base I was like "LOL it would be totally like 815 to lose from this position just because he's so bad. Oh well, KT is up 2-1 woot!"
*single dropship kills 815's 12 o clock base"
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"Ok LOL 815 at least you still have a huge ass army and are teching to hive"
*camera shows 815 still on lair*
FMLLLLLLLLL. |
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| Silentness United States. May 19 2010 20:26. Posts 2377 | Profile Blog # |
On May 19 2010 18:18 Vasoline73 wrote:
815's game today was so horrible.
When the dropship left Classic's base I was like "LOL it would be totally like 815 to lose from this position just because he's so bad. Oh well, KT is up 2-1 woot!"
*single dropship kills 815's 12 o clock base"
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"Ok LOL 815 at least you still have a huge ass army and are teching to hive"
*camera shows 815 still on lair*
FMLLLLLLLLL.
815 is Savior's clone.
Savior stayed on lair tech a whole game against a Bio terran player too during the qualifications for individual league. He went some type of hydra/ling build. (forgot if it was MSL or OSL) SAVIOR GOT ROLLED that game.
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| Jayme United States. May 20 2010 01:31. Posts 4921 | Profile Blog # |
On May 19 2010 18:18 Vasoline73 wrote:
815's game today was so horrible.
When the dropship left Classic's base I was like "LOL it would be totally like 815 to lose from this position just because he's so bad. Oh well, KT is up 2-1 woot!"
*single dropship kills 815's 12 o clock base"
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"Ok LOL 815 at least you still have a huge ass army and are teching to hive"
*camera shows 815 still on lair*
FMLLLLLLLLL.
Oh god I couldn't stop laughing. |
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| Mortality United States. May 20 2010 02:23. Posts 4790 | Profile Blog # |
On May 19 2010 20:26 Silentness wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 19 2010 18:18 Vasoline73 wrote:
815's game today was so horrible.
When the dropship left Classic's base I was like "LOL it would be totally like 815 to lose from this position just because he's so bad. Oh well, KT is up 2-1 woot!"
*single dropship kills 815's 12 o clock base"
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"Ok LOL 815 at least you still have a huge ass army and are teching to hive"
*camera shows 815 still on lair*
FMLLLLLLLLL.
815 is Savior's clone. Savior stayed on lair tech a whole game against a Bio terran player too during the qualifications for individual league. He went some type of hydra/ling build. (forgot if it was MSL or OSL) SAVIOR GOT ROLLED that game.
Uhm, are you basing all of Savior's style on one game you watched? You do realize that Savior was well known for his Hive tech play don't you? |
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 SuperArc Austria. May 20 2010 19:42. Posts 7781 | Profile Blog # |
Lee Jae Dong, tonight Calm's micro was on par with JD's, but JD's decision making and builds completely raped the Brain zerg...
Flash and Jaedong - the most perfect players ever to play SC:BW. This final is the greatest thing that could have happened to a SC fan. |
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| o[twist] United States. May 20 2010 19:43. Posts 4903 | Profile # |
god i hope this final doesnt get messed up
seriously, that was unreal. i never thought i could see that much skill and diversity in ZvZ |
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| samachking Bahrain. May 20 2010 19:46. Posts 4949 | Profile Blog # |
Winner of Flash vs JD for no1 PR
Nothing else can do justice.
Unless ofc both JD and Flash play horribly and Effort plays like a beast and 3-0s Flash.(i.e not going to happen) |
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| o[twist] United States. May 20 2010 19:47. Posts 4903 | Profile # |
| i think if flash beats effort and loses to jaedong you gotta keep him at #1, unless it's close with effort and a rape with jaedong. no real comparison two finals vs one final although jaedong looks like he is really, legitimately back. |
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| SuperArc Austria. May 20 2010 19:52. Posts 7781 | Profile Blog # |
And there I thought Jaedong reached his peak in the last MSL finals...
Imo a simple 1-10 ranking just doesn't do justice to Flash and Jaedong. And unless Effort really really puts up a incredibly huge fight leave #3 open again. |
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