| bakedace United States. May 15 2010 09:01. Posts 659 | Profile Blog # |
| yeah they disabled "what u hear" for their latest drivers, which are the only ones that work for windows 7. I might have to buy a new card or use my on board sound. Last edit: 2010-05-15 09:02:15 |
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| ghen United States. May 15 2010 10:08. Posts 1081 | Profile Blog # |
| Well that's pretty much the lamest thing ever. |
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| TotalBiscuit United Kingdom. May 15 2010 21:07. Posts 3199 | Profile Blog # |
Ok, I've done some further testing and discovered the following. Ustream has disabled the ability to use FME 2.5 so that's out the window. 3.1 is the only current option.
H.264 appears to yield better performance, less framerate drop
The profile I'm currently using for H.264 is 'Main' Keyframe ' 10 seconds', '3.1'. Lower keyframes appeared to result in frequent game freezes. I was also able to further increase smoothness by setting processor affinity in SC2 to CPU 0 and FME to CPUs 1, 2 and 3. I would imagine this would assist those with older quadcores. I5/I7 rigs will most likely not need that.
The stream is now smooth and looks good at a relatively low bitrate. Just working on audio right now.Last edit: 2010-05-15 21:08:16 |
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| Martijn Netherlands. May 17 2010 02:07. Posts 1098 | Profile Blog # |
On May 10 2010 11:04 Senx wrote:This needs attention so we can get more gl.hf-quality streams out there 
Takes a little more than this sadly to reach glhf quality, a lot of time and effort goes into getting it the quality it is in :S
That said, this definitely is a good start and I definitely hope this will encourage people to leave livestream.Last edit: 2010-05-17 02:12:56 |
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| ghen United States. May 17 2010 09:20. Posts 1081 | Profile Blog # |
| Just tried totalbiscuit's settings, worked like a charm getting me up to better than average quality. My CPU usage was MAXED with SC2 on ultra across the board, so if I want to get more quality in the stream I'll have to cut back in game a little LOL. |
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| TotalBiscuit United Kingdom. May 17 2010 16:17. Posts 3199 | Profile Blog # |
On May 17 2010 02:07 Martijn wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 10 2010 11:04 Senx wrote:This needs attention so we can get more gl.hf-quality streams out there
Takes a little more than this sadly to reach glhf quality, a lot of time and effort goes into getting it the quality it is in :S That said, this definitely is a good start and I definitely hope this will encourage people to leave livestream.
Yes well, if you had shared any of those 'secrets' we wouldn't have this problem. Of course, it's your right to keep a tight grip on the information you researched, it just isn't going to help the community at all.
Here's a bunch of settings for those of you who have connections that can handle 1.5mb+ upstream. This will produce 720p quality video roughly equivalent to GLHF.tv. Ensure that your h.264 profile is set to main for this and your keyframes are as low as possible. Will require a fairly hefty PC in order for it to work. Tweak to your individual requirements.
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http://i40.tinypic.com/ifmsky.png
Alternative of course (which I'm going to hazard a guess is used by GLHF and others), is to get a Blackmagic Intensity or Shuttle, output in HDMI to that and then capture directly from it in the highest resolution available using FME. Less resource intensive, higher and more reliable framerates. Pricey though, so not for the faint of heart or wallet.Last edit: 2010-05-18 02:09:40 |
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| Zetsubou Sweden. May 18 2010 07:28. Posts 19 | Profile # |
| If my desktop and ingame resolution is 1680x1050. What should I choose as input resolution then in FMLE? It doesn´t seem to have any of the resolutions I have and I don´t really want to set my resolution to low. 1280x1024 is close to the FMLE choice but then the FMLE would be higher res since it was 1280x1080. My max is 1050 so can´t get the 1080. At the moment it adapts to my mouse pointer so it scrolls after my screen, but that would be wierd ingame I guess. Last edit: 2010-05-18 07:43:08 |
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| TotalBiscuit United Kingdom. May 18 2010 08:11. Posts 3199 | Profile Blog # |
On May 18 2010 07:28 Zetsubou wrote:
If my desktop and ingame resolution is 1680x1050. What should I choose as input resolution then in FMLE? It doesn´t seem to have any of the resolutions I have and I don´t really want to set my resolution to low. 1280x1024 is close to the FMLE choice but then the FMLE would be higher res since it was 1280x1080. My max is 1050 so can´t get the 1080. At the moment it adapts to my mouse pointer so it scrolls after my screen, but that would be wierd ingame I guess.
You should not use a 16:10 resolution at all if you can avoid it. Ideally you should be using a 16 resolution in order for it to properly scale.
Try 1280x720. It may look a little odd on your monitor, but it will output much better on the stream. |
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| Kordox Denmark. May 18 2010 16:06. Posts 142 | Profile # |
When I start broadcasting on ustream, the text above the video says "Live broadcast started just now", but below the video, it still says "off air". Some times the stream does turn on, but most of the time it won't. Everything is set up as the guide says, and it does seem to work, except for this one thing. Any idea what's wrong?
Edit: Looks like simply closing and opening the browser again between broadcast sessions helps.Last edit: 2010-05-18 22:33:18 |
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| Zetsubou Sweden. May 18 2010 21:27. Posts 19 | Profile # |
Oh actually found that resolution I´m just so bad ^^
Also want to thank Ghen for the great thread and Totalbiscuit for the help. Last edit: 2010-05-18 22:01:17 |
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| NB Canada. May 18 2010 23:55. Posts 6990 | Profile Blog # |
how to post ur stream on TL.net? 
and also, anybody know how to config the sound for mac? currently my sound system will output using speaker and those will go into mic again which create the echo effect.... T__T
i know in window you use stereo mix but cant find one for mac  |
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| ghen United States. May 19 2010 07:35. Posts 1081 | Profile Blog # |
Updated original post with info on adding your stream to the teamliquid User Streams list
Adding your stream to the teamliquid.net User Streams listThere are no requirements to add your stream to the non-featured streams list on the site, here is how you should prepare. Step 1: Make a thread with all the relevant information in the appropriate forum (SC2 general mostly). Your name, your stream's name, a link to the stream, what the stream will feature, why your stream is better than everyone elses, visual quality, and epeen size. Name the thread: [Stream] Stream name (Ex: [Stream] Ghen playing starcraft) Step 2: Send a private message to SonuvBob hereInclude a link to your stream's thread and a URL directly to the stream. Step 3: Be patient! It won't take too long, but sometimes Admins take a few days off for family, etc.
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| Martijn Netherlands. May 19 2010 07:48. Posts 1098 | Profile Blog # |
On May 17 2010 16:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Yes well, if you had shared any of those 'secrets' we wouldn't have this problem. Of course, it's your right to keep a tight grip on the information you researched, it just isn't going to help the community at all.
I like to think we've done plenty in helping people get setup. We've been promoting and help people move from livestream and onto ustream from the start, I'm merely stating a lot of time and effort went into getting our stream to be higher quality than just this. I don't want there to be any misconceptions about our quality because a lot of time and effort went into it to make it higher quality. I hardly think that's unreasonable and implying we don't help the community is just snide. If we thought it were as easy as writing a guide, we would.
That said, I actually like your "newbie friendly" casts as you put it earlier. It has a Zero Punctuation meets Starcraft 2 commentary feel to it which is very entertaining.Last edit: 2010-05-19 07:52:04 |
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| ghen United States. May 19 2010 07:58. Posts 1081 | Profile Blog # |
On May 19 2010 07:48 Martijn wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 17 2010 16:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Yes well, if you had shared any of those 'secrets' we wouldn't have this problem. Of course, it's your right to keep a tight grip on the information you researched, it just isn't going to help the community at all.
I like to think we've done plenty in helping people get setup. We've been promoting and help people move from livestream and onto ustream from the start, I'm merely stating a lot of time and effort went into getting our stream to be higher quality than just this. I don't want there to be any misconceptions about our quality because a lot of time and effort went into it to make it higher quality. I hardly think that's unreasonable and implying we don't help the community is just snide. If we thought it were as easy as writing a guide, we would. That said, I actually like your "newbie friendly" casts as you put it earlier. It has a Zero Punctuation meets Starcraft 2 commentary feel to it which is very entertaining.
I respect your decision. It just doesn't help in the tutorial thread to post about how your stream is good quality after a ton of tweaking and not adding anything to the tutorial. That's the rub here. No one is faulting you for keeping to your self whatever you feel is best. I'm sure there's a good reason and I don't care about it. I just want to keep the thread to the tutorial and helping people as they try to use it. Thanks |
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| Martijn Netherlands. May 19 2010 08:01. Posts 1098 | Profile Blog # |
On May 19 2010 07:58 ghen wrote:I respect your decision. It just doesn't help in the tutorial thread to post about how your stream is good quality after a ton of tweaking and not adding anything to the tutorial. That's the rub here. No one is faulting you for keeping to your self whatever you feel is best. I'm sure there's a good reason and I don't care about it. I just want to keep the thread to the tutorial and helping people as they try to use it. Thanks
Perfectly valid and fair enough, I was only commenting because people were using the term "glhf quality" as a benchmark. Like I said, if I thought we could meaningfully contribute to the guide, I'd be all over it and I think your efforts should be much appreciated.Last edit: 2010-05-19 08:07:32 |
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| ghen United States. May 19 2010 08:06. Posts 1081 | Profile Blog # |
| It's a good benchmark to shoot for. Doesn't matter if we hit it The proof is in the final video for that! |
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| YoonHo Canada. May 23 2010 11:02. Posts 1036 | Profile Blog # |
| The link to VH screen capture doesn't work, is there an alternative one? |
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| ghen United States. May 23 2010 11:18. Posts 1081 | Profile Blog # |
| Added more links to the first post for VHSC. Thanks for the heads up. |
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| liquidbabay May 23 2010 14:00. Posts 8 | Profile # | |
| | Decided to change the first part of my nickname to liquid. Just really appreciate the great work you guys do! |
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| mrproper Romania. May 23 2010 15:00. Posts 93 | Profile # |
| Is there an alternative free/trial software that offers HD resolution capture and doesn't have a watermark? |
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