 aimaimaim Philippines. May 30 2010 19:23. Posts 2166 | Profile Blog # |
| I just read that this plan for facebook integration was already planned last year .. did any TL members knew about this back in 2009?? the facebook integration on b.net2 i mean.. |
| | Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK! |  |
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| Pumaska Finland. May 30 2010 19:27. Posts 61 | Profile # |
| Now i'm genuinely scared for the future of blizzards games :S |
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| Panoptic United Kingdom. May 30 2010 19:49. Posts 515 | Profile # |
| This guy's attitude is abhorrent. He clearly has no interest in videogames, and may as well be the CEO of just about any other company - because his only drive is profit - and whilst it might be naive to expect otherwise, you would hope he would be a little more subtle about going around admitting it. |
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| papaz Sweden. May 30 2010 19:53. Posts 3737 | Profile # |
| nice write up. how long did it take to put this together? |
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| Kuzmorgo Hungary. May 30 2010 19:58. Posts 725 | Profile # |
On May 30 2010 17:36 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 30 2010 17:13 Hunter_Killers wrote:
Really if you want to attack Activision stop bringing WoW into it, the payed features are pretty much standard to majority of the MMO's out there and not unique to WoW.
Most mmo's do one or the other, paid features or subscription. Now WoW does both! Great OP, getting all the research together and showing us what Blizzard has now become.
But at least in wow the payed features give absolutely no advantage to you over players who are only paying the subscription... And its not like i will respect some1 cause i see he bought the 25$ mount.. (i usually just laugh at them).
Yeah im a bit scared too for the future:S but i hope that they will fail badly, fire all Blizzard oldschool employees, and some1 with more brains hire them all into 1 team again . |
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| Bloodash Netherlands. May 30 2010 20:06. Posts 1112 | Profile # |
Mabye this isn't the best of places to post this but I'm curious nonetheless;
Poll: Are you willing to pay for;None of them (153) 92% Popular custom maps (9) 5% All of them (3) 2% Additional blizzard maps (1) 1% More then 2 of the above (1) 1% Mini tournaments (0) 0% Skins (0) 0% Icons (0) 0% Avatars (0) 0% 167 total votes Your vote: Are you willing to pay for; (Vote): Popular custom maps
(Vote): Additional blizzard maps
(Vote): Mini tournaments
(Vote): Skins
(Vote): Icons
(Vote): Avatars
(Vote): More then 2 of the above
(Vote): All of them
(Vote): None of them
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| Stormscion Serbia. May 30 2010 20:18. Posts 27 | Profile # |
Evil Prevails
Well ultimately as long as people are paying as much as they ask they will exploit them nothing strange about thet.
I would not care about that much but it actually ruins overall game play and quality of products a LOT greed > quality at this point. So they are now just another greedy company that looks for profit ... what we need is to w8 for small company that like blizzard was 15 years ago that will make true competitive environment and high quality game without looking just for exploitation and money sucking to the bones.
Then when they make success they will be bought and all will go in circles 
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| Panoptic United Kingdom. May 30 2010 20:18. Posts 515 | Profile # |
| I think the majority of people on TL wouldn't be drawn in to paying for additional content, but I bet a hell of a lot of other people will. Personally, I don't doubt that these tactics are going to make activision blizzard a lot of money. |
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| MidKnight Lithuania. May 30 2010 20:19. Posts 819 | Profile # |
People are slightly overreacting for sure.
Kotick doesn't have as much influence on Blizzard as people give him credit for.
Some of the stuff he said makes it obvious he's that stereotypical, evil, money grabbing corporate douchebag, I mean, COME ON, he doesn't even try to hide the fact that he wants to exploit that 16-35 year old male "nerd" demographic.
And he actually uses word 'exploit' in official discussions (that comic was pure).
Oh, and also straight out said that he wants to take out all the fun of making video games..
And sell a 50$ product for 500$..
But I still like to believe Blizzard can do what's best for the community |
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| iounas May 30 2010 20:19. Posts 409 | Profile # |
On May 30 2010 19:19 lew wrote:
Oh and I remember people saying that they will not buy mw2 (when they heard that there will be no dedicated servers). They made big XFIRE groups under the name "we will not buy mw2". A week after the release more then 50% of the group was playing............mw2. Then those kids whined on the forums about dedicated servers and about the fact that they don't listen to the community. Those people forgot that they bought the game and that they actually supported the next call of duty game.
They supported the ignorance towards the community. People buy their games, that's their only goal.
All of this is not news.. People are sheep and not only that, but people who know and care about things like servers and mods are a minority.. Gaming is mainstream now and the goal is to sell the game to a casual player trough advertising and cool graphics..
They want to shut down Korean progaming and even people on this site that watch and follow it are somehow supporting them.. People are sheep..
If blizzard came to this site and said "fuck you all" it wouldnt even affect their sales..
Hardcore people are a very small minority of players in todays world and even then after it cools down they would get the game..
Its like ISP-s. Your target is too sell subscription to people who check e-mails and surf occasionaly not people who would torrent and stream/download all day long. |
| | IdrA: stalkers actually do negative damage. when you shoot a marine with a stalker it gains health. |
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| SC2Phoenix Canada. May 30 2010 20:23. Posts 2793 | Profile Blog # |
| wow nice post. Really puts you in a different frame of mind :/ |
| | Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP | |
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| Champi Australia. May 30 2010 20:30. Posts 1233 | Profile # |
| kotick is a man so blinded by greed that he has become morally and socially inept, he is beyond help, and the best thing for the future of gamers and developers worldwide would be for him to retire, quit, or die, in the VERY near future.... and i guarantee that nobody will be upset about this, in fact it will be the best news one could hear. |
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| torfteufel Germany. May 30 2010 20:31. Posts 86 | Profile # |
i dont think people understand what a corporation is capable of and much more importantly what a corporation is NOT capable of. you might want to educate yourselves a little beforehand...
and although while reading what happened after blizzard gave away their freedom in creating innovative games in becoming part of a major corporation that has to answer their share holders i felt disgust and anger, you could do the exact same thing for any major corporation around the world and it would make activision blizzard look like a sheep.
just one last thing upon what corporations are NOT capable of doing: (e.i. it is IMPOSSIBLE by the nature of a corporation regardless of what their business model is)
corporations are UNABLE to make decisions based on moral behavior
the only basis of decision making is in relation of maximizing profits. so ask yourself: will it increase profit for actiblizzard or will it not?
that is the only valid question there is as ive said before in the thread discussing the kespa/blizzard quarrel. and in that regard we now know that keeping the age limit in korea at 18+ and monopolizing broadcasting rights there will generate more profit than having a 12+ age limit with blizzard having less control over their IP.
activision blizzard is not capable of adding value to the cultural aspects or honoring the work kespa has done for blizzard in regard of increasing popularity by providing the most awesome players of all time.
the only way of doing so is by attaching profits to each question. if it is not possible or unreliable it is in fact irrelevant.
in fact the only reason why corporations are not kidnapping your children and raping them till they die is that there is no not enough profit to outway the costs induced by the moral upset of their costumers and the fines they would have to pay towards the involving countries.
sounds sad but its the truth. :x |
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| Jezvin United States. May 30 2010 20:31. Posts 4 | Profile # |
| Wow, and I was just getting into SC2. I really can't support companies like this. |
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| wishbones Canada. May 30 2010 20:32. Posts 2601 | Profile Blog # |
| well if sc2 is pay to play i wont play, i dont pay to play anything, for instance. the only game i have tried was wow, i hate paying for playing, i have 300 dollars i dont think about adding game time when i have like 30 other amazing 3d games + BW + ICCUP?? haha g'day. |
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| iounas May 30 2010 20:38. Posts 409 | Profile # |
On May 30 2010 20:31 torfteufel wrote:
corporations are UNABLE to make decisions based on moral behavior
In DragonAge there was a DLC at release and a character ingame that said "If you want to play this mission buy it"..
They could put the same thing is sc2 and nobody would care.. People would still buy it and it would bring them more money and the guy who thought of that would be promoted.. |
| | IdrA: stalkers actually do negative damage. when you shoot a marine with a stalker it gains health. |
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| shin ken Germany. May 30 2010 20:48. Posts 242 | Profile Blog # |
Yesterday I made a 50€ bet with friend, that normal Starcraft 2 multiplayer will be subscription based within 6 years...
Let's see who will win this... |
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| 7mk Germany. May 30 2010 20:54. Posts 9436 | Profile Blog # |
whoa this whole read is depressing and infuriating
thx a lot for the effort |
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| a11 Germany. May 30 2010 20:55. Posts 293 | Profile # |
| Yes, corporations are profit-orientated. Thing is: We, as costumers, value quality games over stupid franchise-exploitation. Therefor, we should vote with our wallets and make it in fact less profitable for them to make stupid greedy shit. Of course you can't condemn them to be evil. But you can say "that sucks, I don't want to be ripped off like that. I'm not buying their games anymore". And imho, that's perfectly reasonable. |
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| boySAILOR Norway. May 30 2010 21:00. Posts 14 | Profile # |
| I wonder if Kotick has children, and if they ever think anything in the lines of "My father takes the fun out of gaming, I hate him!" |
| | Another Biological Screwup |
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