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| Holgerius Sweden. July 02 2010 19:11. Posts 16798 | Profile Blog # |
On July 02 2010 19:07 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 02 2010 19:03 Holgerius wrote:Except Flash had more like 9 good months, not one good day.  Let him have his record breaking PR #1 streak as a tribute to that.  He deserves it.
No he doesn't, no I won't. Both December and January Jaedong could very well have been #1. + above post. Maybe we should let have Nada be #1 in every future PR, because he deserves it you know?
Except that's not the same thing at all. Flash was the obvious #1 last month, not several years ago. -__- |
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| Shikyo Finland. July 02 2010 19:16. Posts 20145 | Profile Blog # |
On July 02 2010 19:11 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 02 2010 19:07 Shikyo wrote:
On July 02 2010 19:03 Holgerius wrote:Except Flash had more like 9 good months, not one good day. Let him have his record breaking PR #1 streak as a tribute to that. He deserves it.
No he doesn't, no I won't. Both December and January Jaedong could very well have been #1. + above post. Maybe we should let have Nada be #1 in every future PR, because he deserves it you know?
Except that's not the same thing at all. Flash was the obvious #1 last month, not several years ago. -__-
Obvious and obvious.
http://www.teamliquid.net/powerrank/index.php?prid=37
By the way, for your entertainment, check that month's wins, titles, and losses. And power rank position and the reasonings. |
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| khellian Korea (South). July 02 2010 19:17. Posts 872 | Profile # |
| Wrong thread. Last edit: 2010-07-02 19:17:47 |
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| Shikyo Finland. July 02 2010 19:28. Posts 20145 | Profile Blog # |
Oh reading these past PR's is absolutely hilarious, the PR about december having JD #3 behind Stork although to me it seemed like he should even be above Flash, because "his play hasn't looked that strong" Oh man, why was I even surprised about this PR? Maybe I'll just have to wait until the next PR writer, hopefully that person will have looked "objective" up in the dictionary.
EDIT: okay, october PR seems surprising, maybe I was wrong after all. Even so, this month's PR should either have Flash, JD, Effort, Fantasy or JD, Flash, Fantasy, Effort, can't have what it does now or it's not consistent about what period of time it's gauging. Last edit: 2010-07-02 19:32:02 |
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| Holgerius Sweden. July 02 2010 19:30. Posts 16798 | Profile Blog # |
On July 02 2010 19:16 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 02 2010 19:11 Holgerius wrote:
On July 02 2010 19:07 Shikyo wrote:
On July 02 2010 19:03 Holgerius wrote:Except Flash had more like 9 good months, not one good day. Let him have his record breaking PR #1 streak as a tribute to that. He deserves it.
No he doesn't, no I won't. Both December and January Jaedong could very well have been #1. + above post. Maybe we should let have Nada be #1 in every future PR, because he deserves it you know?
Except that's not the same thing at all. Flash was the obvious #1 last month, not several years ago. -__-
Obvious and obvious. http://www.teamliquid.net/powerrank/index.php?prid=37By the way, for your entertainment, check that month's wins, titles, and losses. And power rank position and the reasonings.
I see one guy who was reaching two finals at the same time getting gold+silver and another guy who reached one final and got one gold. It was very obvious who was #1, especially when you consider what happened before and after that. |
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| Crimson)S(hadow Philippines. July 02 2010 19:31. Posts 292 | Profile Blog # |
this MONTHLY power ranking....it SHOULD be
1.Jaedong
2.Bisu
3.Flash
4.Fantasy
SHOULD be, but someone is obviously a flash fanboy |
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| Shikyo Finland. July 02 2010 19:33. Posts 20145 | Profile Blog # |
Holgerious: and I see he beat movie and lost to jaedong, but whatever -_-
PM please to continue, think I'm doneLast edit: 2010-07-02 19:34:10 |
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| dogabutila United States. July 02 2010 19:36. Posts 1436 | Profile Blog # |
On July 02 2010 17:31 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 02 2010 15:42 khellian wrote:
Flash fanboy much Plexia?
How the hell can a player that recently loses HALF HIS FRIGGIN GAMES be the strongest player at the moment? Get over it and put him #2. Other then that it is fun to se Bisu back ofcourse, even if he still has alot to prove.
Who would you put your money on over Flash in a bo1, bo3, or bo5 right now? Maybe Jaedong (but honestly I'd still go Flash). So that's a possible reason. That said, I definitely think it's debatable. I was surprised to see Flash #1.
Would you bet your life on a 50% player in a BO1, BO3 or BO5? |
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| Crimson)S(hadow Philippines. July 02 2010 19:38. Posts 292 | Profile Blog # |
"Let's not forget too hastily that Flash made consecutive double finals for the first time in history just last month"
lets not forget about jaedong's GOLDEN MOUSE, which flash DOESN'T HAVE YET
thats right, i went there |
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| De4ngus United States. July 02 2010 19:40. Posts 4979 | Profile Blog # |
On July 02 2010 19:38 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
"Let's not forget too hastily that Flash made consecutive double finals for the first time in history just last month"
lets not forget about jaedong's GOLDEN MOUSE, which flash DOESN'T HAVE YET
thats right, i went there
Thats the past. This is a monthly powerrank ok?
Wait...... |
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| Crimson)S(hadow Philippines. July 02 2010 19:44. Posts 292 | Profile Blog # |
On July 02 2010 19:40 De4ngus wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 02 2010 19:38 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
"Let's not forget too hastily that Flash made consecutive double finals for the first time in history just last month"
lets not forget about jaedong's GOLDEN MOUSE, which flash DOESN'T HAVE YET
thats right, i went there
Thats the past. This is a monthly powerrank ok? Wait......
thats exactly what i'm trying to say. this is a monthly power rank. |
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| valaki Hungary. July 02 2010 19:45. Posts 2193 | Profile # |
| Flash shouldn't be #1 in THIS month. |
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| alypse Vietnam. July 02 2010 20:17. Posts 2519 | Profile # |
| Somebody throws Shikyo a glass of water, the kid is all on fire 'cause he can't stand seeing Jaedong on No.2 and thus he must fill the thread with his thoughts of how ridiculous the decision was and how biased the person who made it was. |
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| Vibes Germany. July 02 2010 20:17. Posts 133 | Profile # |
wow, first time that almost every single person disagrees with the PR.
hopefully it will be changed in a few hours when plexa realises he is completely wrong here. |
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| Malinor Germany. July 02 2010 20:24. Posts 4171 | Profile # |
+ Show Spoiler +After tonight I'm very happy that ForGG is not on the PR. Plexa must have had some star sense there.
God, that was so bad. Last edit: 2010-07-02 20:48:59 |
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| khellian Korea (South). July 02 2010 20:32. Posts 872 | Profile # |
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 02 2010 20:24 Malinor wrote:
After tonight I'm very happy that ForGG is not on the PR. Plexa must have had some star sense there.
God, that was so bad.
Might want to tag that as spoiler for those who have not yet seen the games.Last edit: 2010-07-02 20:32:53 |
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| Holgerius Sweden. July 02 2010 20:34. Posts 16798 | Profile Blog # |
| Since when do we put spoiler tags in the PR-thread? |
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 ]343[ United States. July 02 2010 20:39. Posts 8153 | Profile Blog # |
On July 02 2010 20:34 Holgerius wrote:
Since when do we put spoiler tags in the PR-thread?
Mmm I think since this is the second day PR has been out, lots of people will be coming to flame Plexa and/or Flash and not want to be spoilered... |
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| Malinor Germany. July 02 2010 20:50. Posts 4171 | Profile # |
I don't think it needs to be spoilered here, but since it only took me a few seconds I did it now anyway 
Wouldn't want to spoil any mislead soul who only comes here to rage about the PR.Last edit: 2010-07-02 20:51:05 |
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| Musoeun United States. July 02 2010 20:59. Posts 4324 | Profile Blog # |
Just for comparison, I thought I'd look back at what happened when Jaedong knocked Bisu off the PR:
Bisu had a terrible month, going 3-6. However, he lost to HiyA (one of the world's best TvPers), a Bo5 to Stork (the world's other best Protoss at that point), and finished off by winning 3rd place in the OSL over UpMagic.
Jaedong went 11-2, with a single loss to Sea in Proleague and losing one game to Stork in an OSL finals victory.
So we had both requirements for exchanging #1 after a long run: a poor month by the previous player, and a dominating month by the challenger. Well, Jaedong was dominating, but apparently Flash going 7-7 and losing 5 ace matches isn't poor enough.
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Let's try again: When Bisu finally knocked sAviOr off #1, sAviOr had gone 4-6 in the Shinhan Masters and Superfight leagues (aka totally meaningless games), while Bisu went 5-2 in the KeSPA Cup (as well as 4-0 through OSL Prelims and 2-0 in the Superfight, but like I said, meaningless games). And his losses were to Casy (I kid you not) and fOrGG. In other words, with basically no benchmark for how good sAviOr was, and Bisu showing terrible terrible PvT even if he was solid otherwise, the judgment was made that Bisu was #1.
Apparently 7-7 is close enough to "some" benchmark that Jaedong's 8-1 in regular leagues, 5-1 through OSL prelims, doesn't count as enough "domination" to knock Flash off for the month.
Now, if that was 7-7, and Flash had done his (more normal) lose-in-regular-set-dominate the ace match, we'd have no problems with Flash #1. He'd just have been making it harder for himself again, which we're used to. Flash losing ace matches is completely out of character even for sloppy Flash.
EDIT:
Thought I'd mention this while I'm at it. Flash made #1 last month - in my book - by making dual finals twice, and by beating Jaedong soundly, with a side of, "If he hadn't played like an ass he should have beaten EffOrt". But at the same time, his Proleague play was less than convincing, going 4-3, losing two ace matches (though to fantasy and Snow, not nearly the level of fail he demonstrated this month).
Now, how you interpret this will depend a little on your viewpoint (aka who you like). IMO the Proleague shakiness plus throwing away the match against EffOrt meant Flash #1 was already suspect, held up only by his domination of Jaedong. I was, in other words, already ready to ditch Flash as #1 if he showed signs of struggling - but then, I follow Proleague more than the individual leagues. (On the other hand, if he had won both finals, I would have been willing to leave him up here for the next three months even if he went 4-27 over that time and dropped a league, because winning two finals is just that ridiculous. Well, next two months, anyway.)
On the other hand, Plexa (and others) seem to have taken the point of view that the Proleague struggles last month were just due to "prioritizing", and that therefore the fact they've continued (when Flash has nothing else to do) is coincidental and shouldn't actually affect the rank at all.
You know, whatever.Last edit: 2010-07-02 21:17:04 |
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