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 Bluelightz   Indonesia. June 15 2012 16:40. Posts 2330
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I voted Something else meaning:

Yu Yu Hakusho
Hayate the Combat Butler
Touhou (Loll)
Guren Lagan
Gundam
Samurai X

Had some of my childhood memories in thar!

also, OVER 9000!!!!
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 iGrok   United States. June 15 2012 16:46. Posts 4297
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On June 15 2012 16:19 gonzaw wrote:
Dragon Ball Z all the way.


...I pity the guy who gets the Krillin role though

I will neither confirm nor deny that Krillin does not have the absence of the ability possibly known as Destructo Disk
Last edit: 2012-06-15 16:46:53
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 iGrok   United States. June 15 2012 16:47. Posts 4297
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On June 15 2012 16:40 Bluelightz wrote:
I voted Something else meaning:

Yu Yu Hakusho
Hayate the Combat Butler
Touhou (Loll)
Guren Lagan
Gundam
Samurai X

Had some of my childhood memories in thar!

also, OVER 9000!!!!

Never been a fan of most of those, though Gundam Wing was good. That was the only Gundam I enjoyed though.
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 Bluelightz   Indonesia. June 15 2012 16:48. Posts 2330
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On June 15 2012 16:47 iGrok wrote:

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 16:40 Bluelightz wrote:
I voted Something else meaning:

Yu Yu Hakusho
Hayate the Combat Butler
Touhou (Loll)
Guren Lagan
Gundam
Samurai X

Had some of my childhood memories in thar!

also, OVER 9000!!!!


Never been a fan of most of those, though Gundam Wing was good. That was the only Gundam I enjoyed though.


Watching gundam AGE right now :3

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 gonzaw   Uruguay. June 15 2012 16:48. Posts 3096
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On June 15 2012 16:33 HiroPro wrote:
Samurai Champloo, DBZ, or Dune.... So hard to choose. Eh, I think Dune has the best kind of setting for mafia.

But Krillin is definitely the best role. Destructo disk and everyone dies


But he dies 10 times before using it >_>
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 Kurumi   Poland. June 15 2012 17:08. Posts 5148
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Dune is awesome though I bet it's hard to make 4 faction game (three main houses+Fremen as town?) I was thinking about such mafia but it wouldn't mirror Dune well.
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 HiroPro   United States. June 15 2012 17:08. Posts 2171
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On June 15 2012 16:48 gonzaw wrote:

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 16:33 HiroPro wrote:
Samurai Champloo, DBZ, or Dune.... So hard to choose. Eh, I think Dune has the best kind of setting for mafia.

But Krillin is definitely the best role. Destructo disk and everyone dies



But he dies 10 times before using it >_>


And he comes back every time


It could be like Atreides as town and the other 2 houses as seperate mafia teams. And then represent the other major groups with a couple of third party roles.
Last edit: 2012-06-15 17:11:16
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  Ver   United States. June 15 2012 17:49. Posts 1891Profile # 
The weird thing here is that in the first two dozen or so mafia games played on TL, the winrate remained about 50/50. A lot of people were playing for their first times too. I think maybe a difference was that folks could keep coming back and playing with the same people and the good players kept coming back rather than a) getting frustrated with poor play and not playing again (does this happen?) or b) "graduating" into the regular games. Keep in mind these were very large games, ranging from 40-120 people in most cases.

In short, I don't think restricting newbie games to only people with <3 games is worth it. While they should still be called newbie games and geared towards newbies, other players of any level should have the option to play (perhaps newbies should have signup priority, but some slots still open for other interested players). At the very lowest level play it's much easier to win as mafia than as town, so this is not particularly surprising. All it says is that the mafia are winning more because the talent pool is diluted. Rather than adjusting the setup I think we need to adjust the players.

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 EchelonTee   United States. June 15 2012 17:52. Posts 3419
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dbz ftw

and I would love playing in newbie games
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 Radfield   Canada. June 15 2012 19:44. Posts 2682
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On June 15 2012 17:49 Ver wrote:
The weird thing here is that in the first two dozen or so mafia games played on TL, the winrate remained about 50/50. A lot of people were playing for their first times too. I think maybe a difference was that folks could keep coming back and playing with the same people and the good players kept coming back rather than a) getting frustrated with poor play and not playing again (does this happen?) or b) "graduating" into the regular games. Keep in mind these were very large games, ranging from 40-120 people in most cases.

In short, I don't think restricting newbie games to only people with <3 games is worth it. While they should still be called newbie games and geared towards newbies, other players of any level should have the option to play (perhaps newbies should have signup priority, but some slots still open for other interested players). At the very lowest level play it's much easier to win as mafia than as town, so this is not particularly surprising. All it says is that the mafia are winning more because the talent pool is diluted. Rather than adjusting the setup I think we need to adjust the players.





I would be in to this. Especially if say, half the player slots were reserved for newbies, and the other half were first come first serve.

I think we would also want to enforce strict behavior guidelines. Which means insults etc are kept to a minimum.

On the flip side, in the mini games as we have them right now newbie players need to lead the town on their own. They can't just sit back and let the experienced players carry the load.
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 Radfield   Canada. June 15 2012 19:46. Posts 2682
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Dune: You just have Atreides + Freemen as town, vs the Harkonnens.
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 marvellosity   United Kingdom. June 15 2012 21:01. Posts 11795
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On June 15 2012 19:44 Radfield wrote:

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 17:49 Ver wrote:
The weird thing here is that in the first two dozen or so mafia games played on TL, the winrate remained about 50/50. A lot of people were playing for their first times too. I think maybe a difference was that folks could keep coming back and playing with the same people and the good players kept coming back rather than a) getting frustrated with poor play and not playing again (does this happen?) or b) "graduating" into the regular games. Keep in mind these were very large games, ranging from 40-120 people in most cases.

In short, I don't think restricting newbie games to only people with <3 games is worth it. While they should still be called newbie games and geared towards newbies, other players of any level should have the option to play (perhaps newbies should have signup priority, but some slots still open for other interested players). At the very lowest level play it's much easier to win as mafia than as town, so this is not particularly surprising. All it says is that the mafia are winning more because the talent pool is diluted. Rather than adjusting the setup I think we need to adjust the players.





I would be in to this. Especially if say, half the player slots were reserved for newbies, and the other half were first come first serve.

I think we would also want to enforce strict behavior guidelines. Which means insults etc are kept to a minimum.

On the flip side, in the mini games as we have them right now newbie players need to lead the town on their own. They can't just sit back and let the experienced players carry the load.


This should be the #1 thing to think about when considering this idea.
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 Radfield   Canada. June 15 2012 21:56. Posts 2682
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smurfs!
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 marvellosity   United Kingdom. June 15 2012 22:00. Posts 11795
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Can mine be Scumfield?
I disagree with myself - kushm4sta
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 Dirkzor   Denmark. June 15 2012 22:05. Posts 1351
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Scummellosity?
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 marvellosity   United Kingdom. June 15 2012 22:07. Posts 11795
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On June 15 2012 22:05 Dirkzor wrote:
Scummellosity?


Not entirely convinced this would totally hide my identity. Somehow the names seem a bit similar
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 iGrok   United States. June 15 2012 23:14. Posts 4297
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We're gonna need some more smurfs then.
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 iGrok   United States. June 16 2012 04:11. Posts 4297
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Has anyone ever played mafia for money?
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 Dirkzor   Denmark. June 16 2012 15:06. Posts 1351
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I'm backed by sponsor when playing on TL. They want to fly my ou to MLG's and such to play IRL by I can fit it in my schedule...

I thought most here had deals?
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 Qatol   United States. June 16 2012 15:20. Posts 3010
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On June 15 2012 17:49 Ver wrote:
The weird thing here is that in the first two dozen or so mafia games played on TL, the winrate remained about 50/50. A lot of people were playing for their first times too. I think maybe a difference was that folks could keep coming back and playing with the same people and the good players kept coming back rather than a) getting frustrated with poor play and not playing again (does this happen?) or b) "graduating" into the regular games. Keep in mind these were very large games, ranging from 40-120 people in most cases.

In short, I don't think restricting newbie games to only people with <3 games is worth it. While they should still be called newbie games and geared towards newbies, other players of any level should have the option to play (perhaps newbies should have signup priority, but some slots still open for other interested players). At the very lowest level play it's much easier to win as mafia than as town, so this is not particularly surprising. All it says is that the mafia are winning more because the talent pool is diluted. Rather than adjusting the setup I think we need to adjust the players.



Not a fair comparison in my opinion. The early games on TL were generally much bigger with different mechanics (elections, clues, abilities like votechecks being the biggest ones). Also, there was no modkill/ban mechanic. This allowed games to be much more town favored and still be relatively even because a ton of the players were just going to go MIA anyways. Also, you generally had a specific group of players doing most if not all of the heavy lifting for both teams. These players tended to be more experienced than the others or willing to work much harder to improve quickly.

Maybe we should raise the maximum number of games allowed to play in those games, but I don't think removing the restrictions entirely is the right move.
Last edit: 2012-06-16 15:22:06
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